WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.760 Okay, it's 545. Ruth, would you please give her the invocation? 00:00:07.340 --> 00:00:09.760 Okay. Ruth? 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:11.100 She don't have one of them. 00:00:12.380 --> 00:00:15.050 Hi. 00:00:15.530 --> 00:00:24.310 Good to see all of you. I have a little scripture to share with you from Psalms. This is Moses and 00:00:24.310 --> 00:00:33.810 saying, Psalm 90, 12, so teach us to number our days, that we may present to you a heart of wisdom. 00:00:35.190 --> 00:00:52.950 Do return, O Lord, how long will it be? And be sorry for your servants. O satisfy us in the morning with your loving kindness, that we may sing for joy. Make us glad according to the days you have afflicted us, and the years we have seen evil. 00:00:52.950 --> 00:01:24.880 let your work appear to your servants and your majesty to their children let the favor of the Lord our God be upon us and confirm for us the work of our hands yes confirm the work of our hands Lord we come before you with gratitude we thank you for being a God of love who is with us now in this very room you never leave us or forsake us 00:01:24.900 --> 00:01:27.500 your grace has brought us to tonight. 00:01:28.180 --> 00:01:40.120 We thank you for making each of us in this room every person we meet, every citizen of this city, in your image with dignity and infinite worth. 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:51.420 We thank you for the calling you have given every one of us to be good stewards of your creation, to love our neighbors as ourselves. 00:01:51.420 --> 00:02:15.340 We ask you, Father, to protect the plans you have from oppressors, from those that seek destruction. We thank you for our mayor, our city manager, our city staff, and our city council members. We give thanks for the way of service they have been chosen to take up on behalf of Freeport. 00:02:15.340 --> 00:02:43.920 Lord, we all come to this room tonight as complex human beings carrying burdens, carrying joy and hope, trusting that you alone can hold us together in your love and peace. Help us, Lord, to trust you more, more than our fears and our wounds and even our accomplishments. May we lean on you, not only tonight, but also for the future plans of the city. 00:02:43.920 --> 00:03:13.740 we are humbled and reminded that those in authority are first and foremost your servants that honoring you and doing your will is their higher purpose and so we pray that you would be glorified this evening we pray that we would have the eyes to see how our lives and all connect are all connected and how our common good is upheld as we listen and respect 00:03:13.740 --> 00:03:43.220 respect each other. We pray for wisdom, for strength, for courage to do what is right and good for all citizens. May we put the interests of others above our own. May we act with love for the common good. Thank you again for this council, our mayor, our city staff, our first responders, and all of those who are working towards making Freeport a thriving city. In the name of Jesus. 00:03:43.740 --> 00:03:44.300 Amen 00:03:44.300 --> 00:03:45.000 Amen 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:45.760 Thank you 00:03:45.760 --> 00:03:46.320 Thank you, Ruth 00:03:46.320 --> 00:03:47.000 Thank you, Ruth 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:50.980 So now we'll officially call this meeting to order. Madam Clerk, could you please take the role? 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:51.640 Mayor Miller 00:03:51.640 --> 00:03:52.260 Here 00:03:52.260 --> 00:03:53.760 Alder Persons, Clemm 00:03:53.760 --> 00:03:54.280 Here 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:54.960 Johnson 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:55.460 Here 00:03:55.460 --> 00:03:57.160 Simmons is absent 00:03:57.160 --> 00:03:57.660 Parker 00:03:57.660 --> 00:03:58.200 Here 00:03:58.200 --> 00:04:03.620 Stacey is waiting on the phone for us, but will be marked absent 00:04:03.620 --> 00:04:04.080 Shadle 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:04.720 Here 00:04:04.720 --> 00:04:06.860 Sanders is absent 00:04:06.860 --> 00:04:07.820 And Sellers 00:04:07.820 --> 00:04:08.140 Here 00:04:08.140 --> 00:04:12.780 If you could please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, led by Alderman Sellers 00:04:12.780 --> 00:04:23.380 I apologize, Alderman Stacy, I need a motion to allow Alderman Stacy to attend remotely 00:04:23.380 --> 00:04:24.780 I saw, second 00:04:24.780 --> 00:04:29.380 We have a motion made by Alderman Johnson, seconded by Alderman Sellers 00:04:29.380 --> 00:04:31.940 Could you please take the roll? 00:04:32.780 --> 00:04:33.700 Clem? Aye 00:04:33.700 --> 00:04:34.860 Johnson? Aye 00:04:34.860 --> 00:04:36.140 Parker? Aye 00:04:36.140 --> 00:04:37.220 Shadle? Aye 00:04:37.220 --> 00:04:39.080 And Sellers? Aye 00:04:39.080 --> 00:04:41.640 The motion passes, 5-0 00:04:41.640 --> 00:04:50.300 Alderman Stacy, are you on? Thank you. Okay, now we'll stand for the pledge. 00:04:51.740 --> 00:05:05.480 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:05:05.480 --> 00:05:36.290 So for the record, I would just like to state that we just concluded our Finance Committee of the Whole, where the meeting was exclusively for public comment on the budget. Please note that no members of the public were in attendance for input. With that, we move on to item number four, which is the approval of the agenda. Is there such a motion? So moved. Second. We have a motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers. Madam Clerk, could you please take the roll? 00:05:36.290 --> 00:05:49.480 Sellers, Aye, Clem, Aye, Johnson, Aye, Parker, Aye, Stacey, and Shadle, Aye, the motion passes, 6-0. 00:05:50.220 --> 00:05:55.760 Item number 5 is approval of the minutes from the Committee of the Whole held on September 8, 2025. Is there a motion? 00:05:56.060 --> 00:05:56.500 So moved. 00:05:56.860 --> 00:05:57.200 Second. 00:05:57.200 --> 00:06:02.920 A motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers. Madam Clerk, could you please take the roll? 00:06:03.320 --> 00:06:04.420 Sellers, Aye. 00:06:04.840 --> 00:06:05.680 Clem, Aye. 00:06:05.880 --> 00:06:06.640 Johnson, Aye. 00:06:07.100 --> 00:06:07.900 Parker, Aye. 00:06:07.900 --> 00:06:39.270 Stacey and Shadle the motion passes six to zero and I don't believe there's any public comments signed in so we'll move on to item number seven which is the greater Freeport partnerships quarterly report executive director winter good evening everyone good evening tonight's presentation will provide more detailed information in key project areas a full summary of the partnership's activities 00:06:39.270 --> 00:07:20.040 activities in all our strategic focus areas is provided in our quarterly report, which Nicole is distributing right now. October is manufacturing month, and we are taking the opportunity to celebrate this key industry in Freeport. I, whoops, do I just need to click here? Oh, okay, gotcha. Apologies, there was a video that isn't going to play, but we'll just talk about the pictures then on the slide. 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:47.180 Every October, Illinois Manufacturers Association, in conjunction with Illinois Manufacturers Excellence Center, highlight manufacturers throughout the state of Illinois with their Makers on the Move bus tour, which stops at select manufacturers throughout the state. Through coordination with our office, Snack King was selected as a stop on the tour. This was a great opportunity to shine a light on manufacturing careers, Snack King, and their employees. 00:07:47.180 --> 00:08:19.800 now let's break down the economic impact of manufacturing approximately 30% oh I'm sorry it's Kurt it's out of focus I just got a message on the thing could you just double check please thank you I appreciate it didn't mean to interrupt you at all no problem Kurt do you want me to keep going or just pause okay all right let's break down why manufacturing is so valuable to our local economy approximately 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:49.780 ultimately 30% of Stevenson County employees are directly or indirectly employed by the manufacturing industry. The average wage across all manufacturing jobs is just shy of $72,000 a year. $2.8 billion is the economic impact of the manufacturing industry, and it continues to grow. Recently, the expansion of Civencia, formerly known as Colblina, expanded, or 00:08:49.780 --> 00:09:19.360 is undergoing an expansion. The partnership worked to expand the Northwest Illinois Enterprise Zone to incorporate Sevencia Kolblina into the zone. Benefits of the zone have made a $7 million expansion possible with the addition of adding 42 new positions. Burner Food and Beverage is utilizing the Enterprise Zone to expand a milk intake and storage facility to enhance their production lines. This is a $5.5 million investment. 00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:29.220 and both projects are currently under construction. As these companies expand, excuse me, their number one 00:09:29.220 --> 00:09:35.740 challenge is always workforce, having enough trained people to hire in an already tough labor market and 00:09:35.740 --> 00:09:43.360 these numbers tell the story. In August of this year there were 946 people unemployed and looking for work 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:51.000 in Stevenson County. There were over 1,100 unique job postings in that same month representing 330 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:59.960 There's more information on the slide, but what we continue to see, even as our unemployment rate has eked up 00:09:59.960 --> 00:10:28.000 employment rate has eked up throughout the calendar of 2025. We're still approximately just below the state unemployment average, but it continues to hold to be a very tight job market. So we understand the importance of keeping our talent local. That is why the partnership continues to work on initiatives and programs that connect employers to students. We are partnering with Midland Institute, Freeport High School, and the 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:58.000 Association for Northwest Illinois to develop the Midlands CEO Program. The CEO Program will launch in fall of 2026 and build entrepreneurial and leadership skills in high school juniors and seniors, teaching them to develop their own businesses while developing mentorship relationships with local business leaders. We know students that develop these relationships are more likely to stay in the area post-graduation. On October 31st, area high school students are more likely to stay in the area post-graduation 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:27.980 Students will tour local manufacturing facilities and learn about available career pathways. This is a great opportunity for local students to get out of the classroom and to get into some manufacturing buildings to really understand what innovation in manufacturing is in this day and age. It is not dirty old jobs. These are high-tech, brightly lit, clean facilities that offer a great career opportunity. 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:58.000 Community. Looking ahead on November 12th, Highland Community College, Freeport High School have joined forces to offer a joint career and job fair. We're working with local employers to make sure that they take advantage of this opportunity to get in front of soon-to-be graduates. Additionally, the partnership is working with the YIELD program and the Awaken Foundation to explore how the program could be expanded to incorporate desired manufacturing-related skill sets to prepare students to enter 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:03.760 careers in manufacturing. Now I'll turn the presentation over to Nicole to discuss talent 00:12:03.760 --> 00:12:14.980 attraction strategies. Thank you. Recently the partnership has met with local employers to talk 00:12:14.980 --> 00:12:21.440 about how we can use all of the resources that we are using for talent attraction and retention campaigns 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:28.620 throughout their employment postings as well. It's not just a job that anybody is coming for here, 00:12:28.620 --> 00:12:34.040 it's a life. So they need to understand the life that they are offered in Freeport and Stevenson County if 00:12:34.040 --> 00:12:39.980 they're looking to relocate here for one of the many jobs that are available. So we are providing employer 00:12:39.980 --> 00:12:48.080 toolkits that includes a relocation or recruitment packet that talks about housing, education systems, 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:52.420 health care, everything you would need, housing, child care, everything you would need as you're 00:12:52.420 --> 00:12:59.040 thinking about moving here, as well as continuing to put out positive messaging about Freeport, 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:04.940 Stevenson County, and the lifestyle that we offer here. Also, we continue the Stevenson County Area Advocate 00:13:04.940 --> 00:13:12.260 Program. Just September 24th was our most recent one. Our two residents who had moved here were from 00:13:12.260 --> 00:13:19.560 Kansas City and two from Missouri. Two households were from Missouri. I guess Kansas City is Missouri, 00:13:19.560 --> 00:13:48.780 So all three households were coming from Missouri. We're also expanding that program to new employees as well. So that's being offered on October 22nd. If our local employers have hired somebody from outside of the county, we want them to know that Stevenson County and Freeport aren't just the place they work. This is also a place where they can spend their off hours as well. So we're encouraging local employers to allow those employees to come at either 9 a.m. or 1 30 p.m. 00:13:48.780 --> 00:14:01.960 so during the workday, not takeoff, before work, after work, or on their lunch hour, so they understand that their employer is investing in them and their opportunity to get to know the region in which they work. 00:14:02.140 --> 00:14:18.760 We're also offering one-on-one VIP tours to employers who are looking to recruit those high-dollar positions, CEOs, deans of the college, things like that, that really need the one-on-one experience to get to know key positions within the community. 00:14:18.780 --> 00:14:45.020 Our alumni in manufacturing are two of the key positions that we are looking for in our workforce campaigns, bringing people back who came from Stevenson County, as well as recruiting specifically for those people who are in manufacturing industries. And what we like to say is, as we continue to incentivize moving to Freeport and Stevenson County, we offer more life for less. 00:14:45.020 --> 00:15:18.520 So using those same principles and talking points throughout all of our employers really makes sure we are all on the same page representing Freeport and Stevenson County with the same narrative. Thank you. And we'll take some questions. Thank you, ladies. Madam Clerk, could you please note that at 558, both Alderman Sanders and Alderman Simmons are in attendance. Questions, council, discussion? All right. Thank you very much. Thank you. 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:27.990 Item number eight is discussion regarding electrical aggregation program offered by MC Squared. Director, Bridge. 00:15:39.790 --> 00:15:58.950 Good evening, Council and Mayor. Around 2010, the Illinois Power Agency Act, otherwise known as the IPA Act, was amended to include Chapter 20, Section 1-92, which essentially reads as the following. 00:15:58.950 --> 00:16:27.430 Municipalities, Townships, or County Boards can adopt ordinances to aggregate residential and small commercial electrical loads within their jurisdictions. This allows them to solicit bids and create service agreements for buying electricity and related services. A majority vote from each participating municipality or township is necessary to authorize this aggregation, especially if it is to be an opt-out program for customers. 00:16:27.430 --> 00:16:45.350 Before an ordinance can be adopted for this purpose, a referendum must be conducted to gauge the residents' support for such a program. The proposed question in the referendum will ask residents if they wish to allow local authorities to arrange electricity supply for customers who do not opt out. 00:16:45.350 --> 00:17:10.110 So, in March of 2012, a referendum was put on the ballot whether the residents of Freeport wanted to participate in this program. The majority voted yes. The city then held two public hearings in May of 2012 before bringing it to this council where all eight alderpersons approved the implementation of the program. 00:17:10.110 --> 00:17:31.670 Since that time, the city of Freeport has entered into agreements with many different providers who supply energy at a fixed rate compared to ComEd's fluctuating rates. Trends show that at the time of these letters going out that we are about to discuss, the fixed rate is often just a bit higher than ComEd's rate. 00:17:31.670 --> 00:17:41.970 However, over the course of their agreement with the city, the fixed rate becomes a more viable option for those not wanting to be affected by a fluctuating market 00:17:42.970 --> 00:17:50.070 A large part of the program is sending letters to residents, notifying them that they will be receiving a 00:17:50.070 --> 00:17:56.550 Wayne, could you actually hit the lights or someone, sorry, I know, I'm going to zoom in, so don't stress, okay 00:17:56.550 --> 00:18:25.700 A large part of the program is sending letters to residents, notifying them that they will be receiving a different supply rate unless they opt out. Perfect. Okay. One of my main goals tonight is to be as clear as possible on what residents should do with this letter. Just last year, City Hall received hundreds of phone calls from residents with questions. So here we go. 00:18:25.700 --> 00:18:57.340 each and every household will receive a letter from MC squared beginning October 17th this letter has the city logo at the top there will be a little bit more paper to this envelope but this will be the main part of it and again it has a city logo at the top there are four different variations that residents could receive however tonight I will be focusing on the most popular 00:18:57.340 --> 00:19:04.900 Version Residents Will Receive, that being the one that asks residents if they would like to opt out. If residents do 00:19:04.900 --> 00:19:12.900 nothing with this letter, they will be enrolled in the program. So like I said, I'm going to zoom in. Let's 00:19:12.900 --> 00:19:21.820 discuss how residents are able to opt out. The letter outlines four different ways to opt out. I would 00:19:21.820 --> 00:19:51.540 I highly recommend using technology to accomplish this. There will be a QR code in each envelope that residents can scan and fill in information without having to talk to anybody and be opted out in a matter of seconds. I had a resident who talks to me often do this today and it took him three minutes. On each letter the actual link is given right here as well as 00:19:51.820 --> 00:19:57.300 or as well to go to the same page which can again be completed in a matter of seconds. 00:19:57.300 --> 00:20:25.720 completed in a matter of seconds. If those two options aren't your style, option number two or option number four, there are two other options. Residents can call the toll-free number on the letter and quickly speak to a real human about their decision. This option may take a little bit longer due to wait times and other factors. And finally, the option I would suggest the least, unless you have limitations, would be to mail back a signed card 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:31.960 that will be included in each envelope. There were many residents last year who took this route to opt out 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:38.460 and had struggles which then led to frustration and anger. I'll stress this again before I move on to 00:20:38.460 --> 00:20:46.160 why this program can be a benefit. This is a quote from the letter. If you do not opt out of the city's 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:51.800 electric aggregation program you will be deemed to have authorized and agreed to your enrollment 00:20:51.800 --> 00:20:58.920 in the electric aggregation program. So why do some residents participate in this program? 00:21:00.020 --> 00:21:07.060 I'd like to show you a sample energy bill up here on the screen. You can see that delivery right here 00:21:07.060 --> 00:21:15.980 is still controlled by ComEd. But what this program does is offer a different rate for the highlighted 00:21:15.980 --> 00:21:24.800 section titled Supply. If that section says ComEd, which this one does, that would mean you have a 00:21:24.800 --> 00:21:30.520 fluctuating rate. And again, we're going to zoom in and talk about this in a second. One that we have 00:21:30.520 --> 00:21:37.100 observed spike and even plateau at times. However, if that section shows the name of the current program 00:21:37.100 --> 00:21:43.960 participants, this time it would read MC squared energy, that would mean that your rate is fixed for 00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:49.700 for the duration of the agreement. So again, I'd like to quickly show you what some of these numbers mean. 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:58.920 With supplier energy charges highlighted, we see how many kilowatts per hour this resident used during the 00:21:58.920 --> 00:22:05.460 month. That number is then multiplied by the rate that I keep referring to in this presentation. 00:22:05.460 --> 00:22:35.460 You can see that this rate is 8.26 cents per kilowatt hour If this resident were enrolled in the upcoming electrical aggregation program that rate would be 9.89 cents per kilowatt hour Everything else on this bill is not affected by the program It's also important to understand the distinction between ComEd and MC squared 00:22:35.460 --> 00:23:00.940 power outage or other emergency, who does one call? Let's look at this graphic from the Citizens Utility Board where we can better understand that the power lines that deliver the actual energy to our homes are still owned by ComEd, regardless of our participation in this program. The main difference is in the electricity supply and cost, the same section that we just looked at on a sample energy bill. 00:23:00.940 --> 00:23:29.660 I will quickly address a main concern that we heard often from residents calling City Hall last year, the legality of this program. I've already outlined how Freeport adopted this program through a referendum that was voted on by residents themselves, and of course the council approving the implementation of it. But I'd like to use what the Citizens Utility Board has to say about the legality of this matter to address resident concerns. This is straight from CUB. 00:23:29.660 --> 00:23:58.400 Quote, the Illinois Power Agency Act allows municipalities and counties to purchase electricity on behalf of residential and small business utility customers living within their borders. Plugin.illinois.gov has a full list of those participating in this program, which is too many to count. I tried. Too many. Hundreds of communities across the state have implemented this program to their residents, for their residents. 00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:05.520 to residents who may still question the legality of the manner in which they must opt out. I highly suggest 00:24:05.520 --> 00:24:15.120 reviewing the Illinois Power Agency Act, specifically chapter 20, section 1-92. The most important thing I 00:24:15.120 --> 00:24:22.660 want to stress is please stay on the lookout for a letter in your mailbox in the coming weeks. Do not 00:24:22.660 --> 00:24:27.640 throw mail away that you have not checked. And of course, if residents have questions, they can 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:35.220 certainly call me at 815-801-8008, and we can see if we can resolve those concerns. 00:24:38.230 --> 00:24:43.010 Director, you did an absolutely phenomenal job explaining that. Thank you. And all the way back to 00:24:43.010 --> 00:24:50.570 how we got here since 2012. Discussion council. I just have one thing. Go ahead. Can you get in and out at 00:24:50.570 --> 00:24:56.930 any time if you want to? If I want to go with ComEd, then I can at any time, or if I want to get out, 00:24:56.930 --> 00:25:24.730 So while we are not the companies themselves, they can do whatever they've been trained to do, we have been told that they can do somewhat of what you're talking about. They can maybe be on ComEd for a little bit. They can opt out, like we were talking about, be on ComEd, and then get on. 00:25:24.730 --> 00:25:30.990 Usually they want you to wait a couple of months to do that 00:25:30.990 --> 00:25:35.670 If you don't opt out and you are then put onto MC squared 00:25:35.670 --> 00:25:41.930 They have told us that they will be very willing to opt you out if you have missed that deadline 00:25:41.930 --> 00:25:46.510 Again, I'm not that business, I can't promise anything, but that's what we have been told 00:25:46.510 --> 00:25:48.790 Thank you 00:25:48.790 --> 00:25:50.370 Alderman Sanders 00:25:50.370 --> 00:26:10.950 Yeah, if anyone that's part of the MC Square as a supplier and you want to opt out, there is a delay before you can actually sign up with another supplier. 00:26:10.950 --> 00:26:40.950 and during that time your rates will fluctuate to whatever standard that ComEd may hit you with so is it a positive thing to if you chose to opt out and you put on a delay because you want to go to another supplier you can be 00:26:40.950 --> 00:26:47.150 could be behind at least two to three months. Am I correct? I hear what you're saying and I believe 00:26:47.150 --> 00:26:56.050 you're partially correct. So the rate that you choose, whether it be through opting out or opting in, 00:26:56.490 --> 00:27:05.330 will be reflected on your December bill. So these letters, as I outlined, will be going out October 17th, 00:27:05.330 --> 00:27:35.330 which I believe is Friday or maybe Saturday so while the letters are coming very soon here and people might start or residents might start opting out as soon as they come yes it will not be reflected until December I believe that's what you were asking yes that's what anything else council Alderman Johnson so if somebody wants to opt out like say they accept now and they want to opt out like say in three months or whatever there's like just a 00:27:35.330 --> 00:27:40.090 phone number is something they have to call, right? It's not going to be a real hard, long, drawn-out process. 00:27:40.330 --> 00:27:48.530 They just call a number and say, I don't want this anymore, and then it automatically goes back to ComEd for the supplier? Would it automatically just go back to ComEd? 00:27:48.530 --> 00:28:05.190 Yeah, so we have had people call about that within the last year. Again, I outlined how when these letters get sent out, oftentimes the fixed rate that we are offering to these people is a little bit higher than what ComEd is. 00:28:05.330 --> 00:28:11.830 offering at that time. So sometimes residents will see that and go, well, what the heck, put me back on 00:28:11.830 --> 00:28:20.470 ComEd. It happens quite often, actually. And so yes, we have always told people to call MC Squared. At that 00:28:20.470 --> 00:28:27.010 point, it was another name, MC Squared. I wouldn't recommend calling ComEd. They would probably direct 00:28:27.010 --> 00:28:34.730 you to MC Squared. And again, I'm not the business. I can't promise anything. But usually these people 00:28:34.730 --> 00:29:05.390 We'll completely understand. And as long as you are able to get your information across the right way, they'll understand. Thank you. Anyone else? Thank you. No problem. We'll move on to item number nine, which is public comment. Is there any public comment this evening? Seeing none, I will entertain a motion for adjournment. So moved. Second. Motion made by Alderman Sellers, seconded by Alderman Shadle. Madam Clerk, could you please take the roll? Oh, yes, we need to do that. I wasn't prepared. 00:29:06.330 --> 00:29:22.330 Sellers, Aye, Clem, Aye, Johnson, Aye, Simmons, Aye, Parker, Aye, Stacy, Shadle, Aye, and Sanders, Aye, unanimous eight to zero.