WEBVTT 00:00:04.940 --> 00:00:32.570 Good evening, Madam Mayor, everyone. Would you please pray with me? Lord of all, it is the glory of every human being to seek your wisdom and strength. You are admirable in your power and wisdom and truth and for your mercy and grace. Every truly good thing that we know is sourced in you. 00:00:32.570 --> 00:00:55.010 So thank you tonight for your gifts that you have given each one here of life, of health, of community, of gifts for leadership and governance. Lord, we thank you for this city, our home, and for those that you have put in place to be servants for the public interest here. 00:00:55.010 --> 00:01:11.070 Lord, we thank you for this mayor and this council, for these department heads, this city manager, and for so many others, even in the seats here tonight, that you give their time and talent for the welfare of this city. 00:01:11.070 --> 00:01:30.310 Lord, you care about integrity, about wise planning, about justice, and we ask that you'd give both the leaders of this city and its citizens the humility to seek these things from you, and may they find your mercy and grace that you offer freely. 00:01:30.310 --> 00:01:50.610 and so tonight we ask that you to help each one of us here to act honorably before you and with deference and grace toward each other for you have made us to speak and act with both love and truth. I ask all this in Christ the Lord. Amen. Amen. 00:01:51.970 --> 00:01:55.390 So now we'll officially call this meeting to order. Madam Clerk, could you please take the roll? 00:01:56.230 --> 00:01:56.710 Mayor Miller. 00:01:57.150 --> 00:01:57.390 Here. 00:01:58.010 --> 00:01:58.930 Alder Persons-Klemm. 00:01:59.210 --> 00:01:59.450 Here. 00:01:59.450 --> 00:02:23.320 Johnson, Here, Simmons is absent, Parker, Here, Stacy, Here, Shadle, Here, Sanders, Here, and Sellers, Here, and we'll wait until Alderman Stacy is able to get up to her chair because she leads the pledge. 00:02:56.890 --> 00:03:05.290 Madam Clerk, can you please make note that 603 Alderman Simmons arrived and then if you could all please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance led by Alderman Stacy. 00:03:05.290 --> 00:03:23.270 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all 00:03:23.270 --> 00:03:44.660 Item number one is approval of the agenda. Is there such a motion? So moved. Second. Motion made by Alderman Sellers, seconded by Alderman Shadle. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? That motion passes. Item number two is approval of the 00:03:44.660 --> 00:04:14.500 minutes from the regular meeting on July 21st, 2025. Is such a motion? So moved. Second. Motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Clem. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? That motion passes. Item number three is recognition of service awards. Manager Boyer. Thank you, Your Honor. Rick Lineman has been with the city for 10 years. He started out as a swing shift operator at the wastewater treatment 00:04:14.500 --> 00:04:20.880 Plant. He is now the chief wastewater operator. He's also received his class one wastewater license as well 00:04:20.880 --> 00:04:26.520 as his class B water treatment license, and we're very appreciative for his service to the city. 00:04:27.100 --> 00:04:37.010 Being that he could not make it tonight, that basically concludes my remarks. Thank you. Item number 00:04:37.010 --> 00:04:43.130 four is public comments. Madam Clerk, did you have one that you had for reading? I did. This one was 00:04:43.130 --> 00:05:13.130 emailed in and relates to agenda item number 24. It is from Kelly Habak. Please consider the following as my letter of support for grievance 01-2025. I'm writing to emphasize the necessity of stalling curb ramps to ensure accessibility for individuals who use wheelchairs and others with mobility challenges. Curb ramps are essential for safe and independent navigation across sidewalks and streets. Without them, wheelchairs 00:05:13.130 --> 00:05:19.810 chair users face significant physical barriers that can prevent them from accessing public spaces freely and safely. 00:05:19.810 --> 00:05:25.790 These barriers not only compromise mobility but also dignity and independence. I would also like to 00:05:25.790 --> 00:05:32.530 reference a previously submitted grievance, 01-2025, specifically concerning the corners of Park Boulevard 00:05:32.530 --> 00:05:37.930 and Church Street. The lack of curb ramps at these intersections continues to pose serious accessibility 00:05:37.930 --> 00:06:07.910 for community members with mobility impairments. While I appreciate any steps taken so far, this location remains a critical area in need of attention. Installing curb ramps is not only a matter of legal compliance under the ADA, it is a matter of equity and inclusion. These ramps benefit not only wheelchair users, but also individuals using walkers, strollers, bicycles, and delivery carts. They make public spaces safer and more accessible for everyone. Thank you for your attention to this matter. I urge you to 00:06:07.910 --> 00:06:18.730 prioritize the installation of curb ramps at Park Boulevard and Church Street and take meaningful steps towards creating a more inclusive and accessible environment. Sincerely, Kelly Haubach. 00:06:19.190 --> 00:06:39.050 And then we have Ernestine Edmond on a bid package. I'm not sure if I said that name correctly. Did you want to comment on a bid package? 00:06:39.050 --> 00:06:47.780 Yeah, that's a bid package 00:06:47.780 --> 00:07:19.280 I just wanted to be here because I am in the midst of all this because we're in a rental property and months ago I got letters saying that the property had been sold 00:07:19.280 --> 00:08:06.340 Okay. Okay. So that doesn't have to do with the bid package. So if you want to talk about rental properties, then you have to wait until the end. Okay. Okay. Okay. Which item number are we talking about? I asked if I could address you and the council. Okay. According to public comments. I appreciate it. Okay. But it doesn't have to do with. These are you guys as constituents. These are your constituents that are being gentrified out of this town based around properties that have been sold and is increasing their rents. 00:08:06.340 --> 00:08:13.420 These are your constituents that are going to be homeless with their children, one of whom has been hurt in one of these pieces of problems. 00:08:13.840 --> 00:08:20.520 You guys don't want to hear us? You will hear us one way or the other. You're going to either hear us today and not make these people stay here all night. 00:08:20.520 --> 00:08:26.160 They've got to go home to their kids and their family and their homes that they will no longer be able to exist. 00:08:26.460 --> 00:08:31.560 I'm passionate about this simply because I've been in that situation. I lived in transitional housing for 18 months. 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:56.440 not under the same conditions that they're going through, and you guys need to hear them, all of you need to hear them, you need to listen to what your constituents are saying, and what I'm saying to you guys, simply, if they don't listen to you, get them out of here, register, everybody need to register, vote them out of their seat, they need to hear you, and if you're not willing to hear you, leave out of this door, don't let them wait until the last minute to do what they're doing, to see workers that don't have a bad old contact system. 00:08:56.440 --> 00:09:07.900 Okay, you, you, you are out of order. It has nothing to do. Well, then you will be asked to leave. Could you please escort her out? 00:09:08.520 --> 00:09:12.020 You gotta escort me out. I'll walk out. You just stay there. 00:09:12.700 --> 00:09:17.060 For those of you that are standing, I will be back, and they will be back with me. 00:09:18.540 --> 00:09:25.380 For those of you that are standing, I just want to say we are sorry for the hardships that you are going through. 00:09:25.380 --> 00:09:28.020 But please know that the city has 00:09:28.020 --> 00:09:30.260 Can I 00:09:30.260 --> 00:09:32.280 You 00:09:32.280 --> 00:09:34.280 You 00:09:34.280 --> 00:09:37.500 I want you to know 00:09:37.500 --> 00:09:43.500 You can talk at the end of the public comment if you'd like 00:09:43.500 --> 00:09:47.720 You can talk at the end of public comment if you'd like 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:52.180 If you would like to be escorted out as well, that's your choice 00:09:52.180 --> 00:09:56.390 You've touched enough in this damn town 00:09:56.390 --> 00:09:57.790 I have a good D.C. 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:49.500 in my basement for six months. Chief, if you could handle this. For those of you that have stayed, I would just like to say I'm sorry for what you're experiencing, but please note that the city has no rent control. We have no right to govern what another business puts out for a price. We don't. There's nothing. We feel bad that you're being increased, but we have no authority to stop them from doing that. 00:10:49.500 --> 00:10:51.320 Well, we could. 00:10:52.460 --> 00:10:53.740 So we will move on. 00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:59.620 We have other public comments that are on agenda items. 00:10:59.700 --> 00:11:02.260 I believe Rhonda Scott, you are item number 14. 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:11.820 Yes, I'm going to speak on item 14, but I do think that demolition item 26 is an important 00:11:11.820 --> 00:11:17.400 issue and that we are demolishing properties that could be turned into useful rentals, and 00:11:17.400 --> 00:11:19.360 that is a concern that we should be talking about. 00:11:19.700 --> 00:11:21.460 But I'm here to talk about the lift station. 00:11:21.460 --> 00:11:51.300 I was upset about it last time because I've been knowing about the Lamb Road TIF and this lift station which just came up but that TIF has been in existence since 2003 and Walmart and Menards were forced out there by a handful of white men who bought up land cheap and stuck them out there so that they could collect their property taxes. This is not Walmart or Menards' fault. This is this group of creepy men who 00:11:51.300 --> 00:12:21.280 to dictate what happens in Freeport and steal our property taxes. And so that's what's happening in the Lamb Road TIF. Walmart and Menards property taxes are now funding a lift station to pump sewage out of there. Now, when that development went in in 2005, I sat on the Planning Commission. I questioned all of this. Guess what? I was kicked off the Planning Commission because they didn't want to hear what I had to say. That's what happens to people who look up and find out the fact. 00:12:21.300 --> 00:12:51.120 So here we are today paying for a lift station. I just talked to Mr. Stiekel, Darren, and I asked, why do we not know how much this is going to cost? Tonight you're about to approve $234,000 for engineering services. Do you know what that means? It means you're going to pay him to oversee construction for a lift station. Do you know how much a lift station is going to cost you? Do you know how much it costs to run a lift station? 00:12:51.300 --> 00:12:55.640 I asked Mr. Stiegel, and he gave me an answer, which I appreciated. 00:12:55.760 --> 00:13:01.180 He said it's going to cost around $2.8, $2.3 million, which we do have in the TIF. 00:13:01.540 --> 00:13:02.660 But that's not the point. 00:13:03.020 --> 00:13:04.980 Why are we spending the money on a lift station? 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:09.340 When they put that development out there, they should have paid for water and sewer. 00:13:09.700 --> 00:13:14.240 If they didn't have sewer out there, they had no business putting Walmart and Menards out there. 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:17.800 And Mr. Boyer, I'm telling you this for your benefit because you weren't here. 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:19.460 I'm not blaming you. 00:13:19.460 --> 00:13:23.620 I'm bringing you historical information that I hope you will appreciate. 00:13:24.060 --> 00:13:38.340 So right now we've got this same group of creepy thugs who are running developments who want a lift station to get water and sewer out to Mill Race Crossing, 400 or 500 acres, which they bought the land cheap, had no water out there, and guess what? 00:13:38.340 --> 00:14:08.160 Now we're going to pay for it with those property taxes that Walmart and Menards are paying that are supposed to be coming to our police, water, not water, we pay for water, our police, fire, schools, city, we're supposed to be using those property taxes to pay for our expenses here, but instead you're being asked to vote now to approve engineering costs so that we can put a lift station so that these thug developers who are sitting over at the county 00:14:08.340 --> 00:14:12.620 can run water and sewer out to their development, which doesn't even exist. 00:14:12.620 --> 00:14:13.780 I'm sorry, your time has expired. 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:14.460 Thank you. 00:14:22.270 --> 00:14:25.790 I'm not sure if the next one is Miranda Blessing. 00:14:25.870 --> 00:14:27.150 Are you actually going to speak? 00:14:27.550 --> 00:14:27.770 No? 00:14:29.050 --> 00:14:30.210 On demolition, you want to wait? 00:14:35.710 --> 00:14:37.650 Kenzie Graham, item number 10. 00:14:45.310 --> 00:14:46.170 Good evening, Council. 00:14:46.330 --> 00:14:49.690 My name is Kenzie Graham with Stateline Solar on behalf of Harmony UMC. 00:14:49.690 --> 00:14:57.390 I'd like to address you in terms of item number 10 the approval of the ground-mounted solar array on the property 00:14:57.390 --> 00:15:02.050 Mostly I just wanted to answer the questions that came up from the first reading 00:15:02.050 --> 00:15:06.230 That being why not put solar panels on the roof 00:15:06.230 --> 00:15:10.870 Main reason to not put panels on the roof is because it's due to be replaced soon 00:15:10.870 --> 00:15:16.390 And that would add extra cost to the church to have to remove them and put them back up at that time 00:15:16.390 --> 00:15:50.640 We also moved it to the back of the property to remain out of sight as per the code request and our sizing of that ground mounted system does comply with the current ordinances as they are today. Thank you very much. Thank you. Akia Sanders on item number 23. Let me try to make this as quick as possible. It's a lot to cover. I'm going to show you how God revealed everything 00:15:50.640 --> 00:16:20.560 on this agenda there that you say that don't have nothing to do with it. The root is Wayne Duckman. Wayne is responsible for knocking down these houses that does not have to be knocked down. We are in a housing crisis right now, and we're looking at the man to give him some money, a contract. After he quit on Freeport, he quit, put his two weeks in, don't want nothing to do with us, but he want $1,000 for 16 hours a week. That's insane. Insane. We're in a housing crisis. Rob Boyer, it's your time to put 00:16:20.560 --> 00:16:28.020 on a Superman cape. Try to act like you care about the community. We are a rule community. Rule means you 00:16:28.020 --> 00:16:33.460 guys have made the rules to fit your needs. Now it's time to make the rules to fit the community needs and 00:16:33.460 --> 00:16:39.960 what they actually need. Have you went through those properties and seen if they honestly need to be 00:16:39.960 --> 00:16:47.220 knocked down? Wayne Duckman is very vindictive. He harasses a lot of people. He gives all kinds of 00:16:47.220 --> 00:17:13.040 held to a lot of people only because they are consistent in hustling. He mad because he got to do a job. He done left his job five times. And now you look putting on a contract, you want to give him some money for begging him to stay. Feel his position. Last time you said there was nine people that filled out an application. I can't believe out of those nine people, we don't have one that can do more than 16 hours a week. 00:17:13.040 --> 00:17:43.020 he's a reason that all of our whole community is failing he's a reason that the progress for the east side projects he's trying to stop that and your whole election was ran off Chicago slum landlords and I ain't going to believe that you can't do nothing about what coming here and trying to fix it make it so it fits the cap you cannot do 500 to a thousand you cannot make somebody pay that much you are in control maybe you guys don't care because half of y'all living good but it's peace 00:17:43.040 --> 00:18:13.020 People that need help. Social Security, low income jobs. You ain't got no jobs here, Rob. Freeport Partnership ain't created a thing, I've seen. It's time for somebody to do something that actually does for the community. Keep your topic on the contract. It is the contract. Wayne Duckman needs to go. You want to hear it again? Wayne Duckman needs to go. Wayne Duckman has to go. Don't beg a man to stay that has tore down the community in a way we can't live. Go through the properties once. How often do 00:18:13.020 --> 00:18:38.700 How often do you go over there? How often do you trail those property that's been torn down? Mine, for one, didn't need to be torn down. It could have went to some of these families. But instead, he wanted to target me, knock it down, and now we're in a housing crisis. Fix it. Care about it. Don't look down, look up. Look at the people you about to fail. But 2027, you can count your blessings and get out of here. 00:18:38.700 --> 00:18:49.040 Cheryl Altman on item number 23. 00:18:49.940 --> 00:19:18.160 Mine is also concerning Wayne Duckman and Rob. I've tried to talk to Rob. I have an eight-unit apartment building that can get fixed up, but because Wayne's got to bug up his ass against me, too, and Akia. Shake your head yes, Wayne. I know it. All these people, eight units. Can you imagine how many families I could put in that eight unit? Get off your ass and let us fix this property. 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:42.780 Okay, let's not swear or you're done. Don't swear at him. But it's okay that he can rip people off. What am I talking about? You're an exception too. But you guys sit here. These people are looking for homes. Give me the permit so that I can fix this back up. You already stole one of my houses. If you think you're going to get this one, you're going to have a fight. 00:19:42.780 --> 00:19:51.070 Uh, next is Jocelyn, um, Ristley, I'm sure I'm saying that terribly wrong 00:19:51.070 --> 00:19:58.030 Excuse me, I don't know the rules and regulations, this is my 00:19:58.030 --> 00:20:25.980 I don't know the rules and regulations. This is my first time attending a meeting like this. I did want to speak on the impact of demolitions and outside takeover. Okay, but the item that you spoke under is the contract. Yes, and that's part of the demolitions, correct? No. No, from 23, 26, and 27? You wrote down item number 23. Oh, I'm sorry. So if you want to talk about the bid package, you want to talk about those eight bid package things? Yes, the eight and the nine. Is it 20? Yeah, if you have something 00:20:25.980 --> 00:20:55.740 specific about bid package stuff you can talk about it yes it's it's in addition to the the recent rent hikes it also is including the several properties that have been demolitioned over the last few years is this not the appropriate time to speak about that so those items that are on the agenda about demolition they're to demo to they're voting to accept a bid to demolish a certain group of properties here so if you're talking about old properties no it's not on point if you're talking about these 00:20:55.740 --> 00:21:01.200 properties, then you can, that's on point. It's in addition to that. It's the big picture of it. I know 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:06.500 that there are additional properties that are proposed to being demolitioned, but it's in addition 00:21:06.500 --> 00:21:12.860 to what's already been done. They kind of go hand in hand, if you will. Probably then, you can certainly 00:21:12.860 --> 00:21:17.800 talk about that, but it's probably meant for the public comment at the end of the meeting because 00:21:17.800 --> 00:21:22.460 it's a non-agenda item. But it's in addition to what, and I don't mean to go back and forth with you and 00:21:22.460 --> 00:21:40.680 waste more of my allotted time. But it's in addition to the properties that are looking to be demolitioned because it's causing just a greater strife for the residents of the Freeport community because it leaves even less areas for them to reside. And it is related to the rent increase, which of course is not on the agenda. 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:42.120 Yeah, these are specific addresses. 00:21:42.560 --> 00:21:43.640 Yes, I understand. 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:48.100 So if you want to speak about rent, then that's going to be at the end of the meeting. 00:21:48.100 --> 00:21:56.320 I understand that, but as I've stated, it ties to the properties that are being looked at to be demolished. 00:21:56.540 --> 00:22:02.820 It's what's coming, but they're in related to what has already happened, and it's created a vacuum of sorts. 00:22:03.300 --> 00:22:07.440 It is these properties that are being, I'm sorry? 00:22:08.360 --> 00:22:12.660 I think your comments are going to have to wait until the end, because I just don't think, they're really not about the bid packet. 00:22:12.780 --> 00:22:17.200 The bid packet is, who's the lowest bidder, what's the price to demolish it, et cetera. 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:22.780 I understand that that's your perspective on it, and I will respect that, so I'd be happy to speak later in the meeting. Thank you. 00:22:22.940 --> 00:22:25.320 Thank you. That concludes public comments. 00:22:28.640 --> 00:22:29.280 Someone else. 00:22:31.840 --> 00:22:33.660 Yes, I arrived late. 00:22:40.890 --> 00:22:42.410 We don't have executive session. 00:22:43.230 --> 00:22:44.110 It's on the agenda. 00:22:44.530 --> 00:22:48.410 It's always a standing item. We don't have anything on there. 00:22:48.790 --> 00:22:54.380 I'd like to speak specific. 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:13.040 Just so you know, we're not going into executive session. 00:23:13.080 --> 00:23:14.960 I understand that, but I would still like to make a comment. 00:23:15.040 --> 00:23:15.660 Okay, go ahead. 00:23:15.660 --> 00:24:01.720 My name is Robert Holt. I am the AFSCME Council 31 Staff Representative for Local 3367, the Municipal Employees of the City in Freeport. I received this letter that they've asked me to read today, so I'll begin. Over the past few years, Public Works has been promised a $5 an hour increase that they have not received, and now that the city does not want to come through, now the city does not want to come through on their promise. 00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:15.720 In 2019, the local took a 0% increase because the city said they did not have the funds to give us our negotiated increase, and after the city got their COVID money, they only gave it to the police and fire pensions and no one else. 00:24:16.580 --> 00:24:27.840 Without the street department, the city would be paying millions more to get streets paved. Come winter, the streets would not get plowed to ensure safe traveling for our citizens and police and fire. 00:24:27.840 --> 00:24:57.840 Without the water and sewer construction crews we would have to pay someone else thousands to fix main breaks. You would also have to figure out who is going to run sewer lines when they get backed up and don't flow properly. Without the telecommunicators all the calls would be directed to other agencies which would take even longer to dispatch our officers and fire department personnel. Without the water treatment crews there would not be safe drinking water. If there is no fire 00:24:57.840 --> 00:25:03.420 If there is a fire, no one will be there to turn up the pumps to help support the water supply needed to put out fires. 00:25:05.080 --> 00:25:09.220 So pay us what you owe us, because if you don't pay, we don't stay. 00:25:22.830 --> 00:25:25.090 Okay, item number five is the consent agenda. 00:25:25.210 --> 00:25:30.650 The consent agenda is considered to be routine in nature unless there's a member of the council who would like to have something removed for further discussion. 00:25:35.300 --> 00:25:42.740 The consent agenda is approving to receive and place on file the board and commission minutes from the planning commission May 8th, June 12th. 00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:50.620 2025, the Zoning Board of Appeals, June 5th, 2025, Board of Fire and Police Commissioners, June 24th, July 1st, 2025, 00:25:51.360 --> 00:25:57.860 Finance and Cash and Investment Reports for June 2025, the Greater Freeport Partnership, July 2025, 00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:05.580 Building Permit, Fire Department, and Police Department Reports for July 2025, the Finance Bills Payable in the 00:26:05.580 --> 00:26:27.700 total of $5,658,211.16 and payroll for pay period ending July 26, 2025 in the total of $685,042.99 and payroll for ending August 8, 2025 in the total of $671,983.85. 00:26:28.080 --> 00:26:30.560 Is there a motion to approve the consent agenda? 00:26:31.020 --> 00:26:31.500 So moved. 00:26:31.760 --> 00:26:32.100 Second. 00:26:32.100 --> 00:26:39.140 We have a motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers, Madam Clerk, could you please take the roll? 00:26:39.500 --> 00:26:39.900 Stacy? 00:26:40.360 --> 00:26:40.620 No. 00:26:41.300 --> 00:26:41.660 Shadle? 00:26:41.980 --> 00:26:42.200 Aye. 00:26:42.760 --> 00:26:43.160 Sanders? 00:26:43.520 --> 00:26:43.740 No. 00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:44.640 Sellers? 00:26:44.760 --> 00:26:45.000 Aye. 00:26:45.320 --> 00:26:45.680 Clem? 00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:46.200 Aye. 00:26:46.600 --> 00:26:47.000 Johnson? 00:26:47.280 --> 00:26:47.520 Aye. 00:26:47.940 --> 00:26:48.220 Simmons? 00:26:49.220 --> 00:26:50.120 She's fine. 00:26:50.460 --> 00:26:51.940 Oh, I'm sorry, Ann Parker? 00:26:52.360 --> 00:26:52.640 Aye. 00:26:53.540 --> 00:26:56.060 The motion passes five to two. 00:27:00.040 --> 00:27:02.260 Item number six is appointments, could you please read? 00:27:02.260 --> 00:27:32.240 Connie craft to the ADA commission effective immediately through May 31st, 2029. Is there a motion to approve? So move. Second. The motion made by Alderman Sellers, seconded by Alderman Shadle. Discussion? Alderman Stacy? Why Connie Craig? She served previously on an old commission that was stood up years ago. She expressed interest, asked if she could be a part. 00:27:32.260 --> 00:28:04.720 and I had an opening. She's an outstanding citizen in this city? Is she what? Is she an outstanding citizen in this city? She's very involved in this city. I wouldn't put somebody on I didn't think was outstanding. Wow. Okay. Madam Clerk, could you please take the roll? Stacey? Aye. Shadle? Aye. Sanders? Aye. Sellers? Aye. Clem? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. 00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:34.200 Still absent. Ann Parker. Aye. Motion passes 7-0. Item number 7 is the second reading of Ordinance 2025-44. Could you please read this? Ordinance amending Chapter 460, Section 460.16, written permits required for overweight vehicles of the City of Freeport's Code of Ordinances. Thank you. Manager Boyer. Thank you, Your Honor. Just following up, we had our first reading in July. This is our second reading. 00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:42.140 now in August. The staff requests moving forward with some changes to the ordinance for oversized vehicles, 00:28:42.740 --> 00:28:49.760 so that would be creating an overweight and oversized permit form, permitting required within city limits, 00:28:49.760 --> 00:28:57.620 no matter what roads are used within the city. Also adding $150 for individual one-time permits, 00:28:58.080 --> 00:29:03.340 $1,200 for an annual permit, that would be for individuals licensed within the city, 00:29:03.340 --> 00:29:09.500 and then $500 penalty for noncompliance with permitting. Staff recommends moving forward with this ordinance. 00:29:10.340 --> 00:29:11.700 Discussion? Alderman Shadle? 00:29:12.500 --> 00:29:22.480 I had a conversation with Garrett Miller from Merrick Cranes, the crane service. 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:23.200 Yes. 00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:32.400 Name's escaping. He brought to my attention that the state fee, the yearly fee is $1,400 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:42.960 and he felt ours was excessive at $1,200 and was hoping we could get that somewhere down more towards a $500 range. 00:29:43.380 --> 00:29:49.410 Any other discussion? 00:29:49.930 --> 00:29:55.940 I would just comment. We'll make it whatever the council decides to be. 00:29:55.940 --> 00:30:23.980 whatever the council decides to be. I did a little bit of research on different types of fees and other communities charged by the overage of weight over the 80,000 pounds. That would be very difficult for us to do. We don't have that kind of employees or tracking time. I tried to, you know, make it a break rather than doing individual permits. There is still time and expense into the city every time these vehicles move, but it's whatever your guys are doing. 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:32.860 as a pleasure is. Mine was just a recommendation. I'd just like to mention we could probably do something 00:30:32.860 --> 00:30:37.580 like $500. Does that sound reasonable to counsel? At this time, you know, we don't have anything on the 00:30:37.580 --> 00:30:43.960 book, so something's better than nothing, so. Alderman Stacy? I don't think it's fair to just make up a 00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:53.220 price here based upon what someone is wanting. If we need to move it to the next meeting and re-look at 00:30:53.220 --> 00:31:03.460 this, then let's all re-look at it. But to sit here and change $1,200 to $500 tonight, I don't think that that's right nor fair. 00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:07.280 Manager Boyer. 00:31:08.040 --> 00:31:19.280 One thing I might want to mention is I've only been contacted by one alderman who is concerned and expressed some interest from a local business that will be operating overweight within the city. 00:31:19.280 --> 00:31:48.680 and so from that standpoint we did look at various other options but $500 would be a good start on any kind of annual permit and that would also keep some of the overhead lower for operators that are overweight. Alderman Clem? Yes, I know in this you had eliminated certain vehicles. The example that Alderman Shadle used is 00:31:48.680 --> 00:32:18.660 Needless to say this guy does a lot of work with the cranes a lot of the around the area and needless to say it's got a place in town so he'd be using it all the time would there be a possibility of putting him into that group that with garbage trucks so on and so forth I don't believe so the the cranes he operates are fairly large and completely different than a garbage truck they're enormous so I don't know if Darren wants to chime in on some of that or I'd talk to the one 00:32:18.660 --> 00:32:25.880 business they called, and they typically run over the weight limit. That's the size of crane. They have 00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:32.580 multiple cranes, but the one that they, I think, use very regularly is significantly overweight. 00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:40.280 Our roads are permitted between 60,000 and 80,000 pounds, and I think the unit that we discussed was 00:32:40.280 --> 00:33:10.280 is about 125,000. So the permitting process is really to control where these vehicles operate within the city. So for instance, unless we had a crane job at somewhere on Locust Street, I would not permit somebody to go drive a 100,000 pound load down Locust Street because we just replaced it. So the whole idea behind this permitting process is to map the exact routes that they're traveling 00:33:10.280 --> 00:33:40.180 it's not just a free pass to do whatever they want whenever they want it is actually to map it out to say okay we're we we fixed these streets so please don't operate on these streets as we move through the network and cycle of it right and and that's that the the people that because we actually have an ordinance this this ordinance is already on the books so we do have people that already submit for permits all the time out of town crane carriers and stuff we just don't have any fees tied to this ordinance it actually 00:33:40.180 --> 00:33:46.540 already exist. I reviewed it with the attorney, and it just says the fees will be made up by the public 00:33:46.540 --> 00:33:51.840 works director at the end of it, and there was no fee schedule, and I didn't feel like it was right to 00:33:51.840 --> 00:33:58.900 impose a fee schedule that wasn't approved by counsel. Holderman Sanders. Yeah, I'm listening to 00:33:58.900 --> 00:34:05.480 the scenario that you got, or the comprehensive conversation that you guys are trying to 00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:22.620 established before council, but we have no comprehensive scaling chart for over-the-road driving here in the city, and I think we should establish that. If we don't have one, we should have one, okay? 00:34:22.620 --> 00:34:24.620 If we have one, it's 80,000 pounds. 00:34:24.620 --> 00:34:54.040 No, what I mean is we as council need to be able to examine and do an accessibility of those charts to see if we're within the guidelines of scaling prices, fees, and whatever the nine yards is on that matter. So what I am saying is before we set fees and try to impose these fees based upon coming out of our head, 00:34:54.040 --> 00:35:08.380 I like to see this in writing. I like to see a chart mapping of the city where trucks can drive and cannot drive, and I like to see that visually, and I think the people of the city would like to see that visually as well. 00:35:08.380 --> 00:35:32.580 when they see trucks driving in certain areas that knowing that they had no business in these areas but not fine for this kind of traveling, I think we need to have a complete overall view of what the charts should look like when it comes to censoring what trucks are doing within the city itself. 00:35:32.580 --> 00:35:39.460 And I think that's, yeah, I'm going to hold this thing for a second until I get done here because I may not be able to come back. 00:35:40.020 --> 00:35:50.400 And I'd like for us to get this thing prioritized before we decide to allow this thing to be done. 00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:56.540 I don't know if there's a time limit on it or whenever you guys want to implement this program or whatever the case may be. 00:35:56.540 --> 00:36:18.580 But if it's not in effect as of now today, then before we do that, let's have all of our tools in place and making sure that council is very aware of what is being done on these matters and not have us listening to something that may happen or may not have happened. 00:36:18.580 --> 00:36:45.520 and things are changing. So we want something established that has some form of foundation that we can go to all together, not only that, even be placed on our website where people can have accessibility to these kinds of things. So that's my recommendation. I think we should follow through on these kinds of things to keep the integrity of the ordinance valuable to the city of Freeport. 00:36:45.520 --> 00:37:16.780 I would just like to make a motion that we move this to the first meeting in September where we can get clarity for those who need clarity or want clarity. And I don't think it's fair to start adjusting prices. That's why our constituents already feel like we support who we want. 00:37:16.780 --> 00:37:35.920 and who we don't, we don't. This is a prime example of willing to drop from $1,200 to $500 because of one business, which Director Darren Stegall said is over a thousand pound truck. 00:37:37.060 --> 00:37:42.460 Okay, we have a motion on the floor to move this ordinance to the next regular scheduled meeting. Is there a second? 00:37:42.460 --> 00:37:48.200 Second. Mayor? Sure. Can I respond to 00:37:48.200 --> 00:38:18.180 Mr. Sanders comment just for some clarity so currently the way the ordinance exists anybody can drive anywhere they want without any issue right and so if you're a truck that's under the legal moving weight which is 80,000 pounds they can drive up and down every street in Freeport without any control and it's not illegal for them to do it we don't have routes that are cars only or non-truck routes right so they can go wherever they want this is 00:38:18.180 --> 00:38:48.180 really for the oversized overweight loads to ensure that they're just not cruising down our streets that we're repairing without any control. We have no control mechanism right now. We have an ordinance that can't be enforced because we have no penalty. So we're trying to put some teeth to it. I have done research on this. What I have proposed is what most communities have. The fee can, I don't want to say it's negotiable, but it's whatever you 00:38:48.180 --> 00:39:14.920 you guys feel is fair. I personally, I did not talk to this business, but I talked to other businesses, and the fee that I proposed, they felt was fair, based on other communities and how they moved their loads. Currently, the way the state moves vehicles around the city, excuse me, the state of Illinois moves vehicles, they fill out a permit, and in that permit that they supply to the state, it says you have to get permission or permitting from local jurisdictions. 00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:43.500 We have found many trucks that drive down our residential streets with no permitting process that are way overweight. I'm trying to get control of this because we're investing millions and millions of dollars into streets that we don't want destroyed. This is just an extension of our street program. I will say that the one person that called in, now, if he's doing an RDA to develop his business in the future, we know where he's going to be at. 00:39:43.500 --> 00:39:54.040 So when we reconstruct that street, we will make that street of heavier pavement and size to handle those loads day in and day out. That doesn't mean that there shouldn't be a permitting problem. 00:39:54.040 --> 00:40:06.680 That doesn't mean that there shouldn't be a permitting process for it. This is very typical per community. Some places have automated systems. We don't have enough truck traffic to have these automated systems to do the work. So, again, just my clarity on it. 00:40:07.220 --> 00:40:07.780 Manager Boyer. 00:40:07.780 --> 00:40:33.540 The purpose of first and second reading is to allow time for people to have things settle in. I think this was one of the points that was brought up after the first reading was this seems excessively high, and because we have nothing now, I personally don't see an issue with lowering it and making it $500, and then we'll see how things go in the future. But whether it's $500 and $1,200, it's not going to change our ability to repair roads, and we'll continue to do that. 00:40:33.540 --> 00:41:01.280 So staff just recommends moving forward with the amended the amended amount. I made a motion. Why are we still talking? I want to come back to that. That was that's why I would let them say as department heads to say what they want to. But we do have a motion on the floor. You're correct. Okay. So the motion on the floor seconded by Alderman Sanders is to move this on to the next regular scheduled meeting. So if there's any discussion on that motion itself, otherwise, Madam Clerk, would you please take the role? 00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:22.760 I just have a question. Yes, on that. Just wondering if it was the first reading on, well, I wasn't here on the committee as a whole, and that was on 714, and so we've had a whole week or so to look over all of this. 00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:52.740 I do think that just staying at the 1200, if that's what they brought it the first time, just staying at that and moving forward to keep things moving. But I think if we already looked at it at 714 and they talked about it as a committee as a whole, why are we? You're correct. This is our third meeting of discussion. Yes, that's what I'm saying. Why are we? Yeah. On Alderman Stacy's motion to move this, Madam Clerk, could you please take the role on moving it to the next meeting? May I say something? Sure. If we stick it, 00:41:52.740 --> 00:42:02.920 what was given to us. If we stick at what we've looked at for the last three weeks, I would withdraw my motion. 00:42:06.110 --> 00:42:14.180 But we haven't made an amendment yet. So are you withdrawing your motion then? 00:42:14.640 --> 00:42:17.680 No. Are we going to move forward with this as is? 00:42:19.020 --> 00:42:23.480 Someone would have to make a motion to amend the change. 00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:29.060 No, I'm not talking about changing it. I'm talking about leaving it at $1,200 and moving forward as is. 00:42:29.080 --> 00:42:30.800 As is. As is. That's what I say. 00:42:31.220 --> 00:42:32.820 Alderman Sanders. That's what I say. 00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:59.060 Comment on reestablishing what this sounds like is being placed in a position of hastiness. That's what it sounds like to me right now at this moment. And I don't like that kind of feeling that I'm getting. I like all the data information that Brian is recommending what he is stating right now. 00:42:59.080 --> 00:43:29.060 down before us. All of this data information and related to this issue should be brought before us so we can see that, well, for three weeks we have not seen tangible data. I'm looking for tangible data assessment of what we're discussing right now. And I think it requires more than just us having these small discussions here at council. These types of 00:43:29.080 --> 00:43:59.080 I think this type of things needs to be overviewed by a larger agenda as far as how are we going to get down to the nitty-gritty of all of the things that we're trying to recommend to the city and suggest for the city. I think there's more variations of data that could be implemented to the council and it's not done. This is not coming forward. So I'm just saying I love broad 00:43:59.080 --> 00:44:14.700 Boyer, Darren, to give us a little bit more information on how we're going to assess all of this and let the people of the city know where the clarity comes in so they can digest what we're trying to do here. 00:44:14.700 --> 00:44:28.620 And I'm just saying I don't like us coming to council just talking about something, and I also want to direct my attention to our city clerk as much as I can. 00:44:29.080 --> 00:44:55.560 Anytime that we are having these meetings, I know she brings it out in a format for council to see, not only for council to see or to hear, but she brings it in a format of tangible documents so we can revert back to it, recite back to it, 00:44:55.560 --> 00:44:59.300 or go back over what it is that we've been discussing. 00:44:59.960 --> 00:45:21.280 When I see this kind of format that is happening within the city council by the clerk, I prefer us to have that before us so we can go line by line, knowing exactly what was said, how it was said, what was being done, and what the citizens of the city of Freeport is listening to. 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:32.560 I think it's more as it brings us back to the center to where all of this came from because right now we have nothing tangible before us. 00:45:32.640 --> 00:45:46.320 And so I would like for us to continue that sequence of documents or data before council before we even start the process of anything on the agenda 00:45:46.320 --> 00:46:08.220 and let the council be able to briefly look over the things that we have been discussing through council on a weekly basis so we can keep it refreshed in our mind of what we talked about because trying to say that what we've done two weeks ago does not all the time is retain of information that should be there. 00:46:08.220 --> 00:46:34.580 and we're talking about it and we're discussing it so I think the council should be able to revert back to it and refresh their memory on things that has been said over the council chamber and that's my recommendation. I think that should happen and let's move forward with that because I'm listening to it but I'm not getting enough data is what I'm not getting. We're talking about things that does not have a track record. 00:46:34.580 --> 00:47:04.560 Alderman Sanders. I didn't know I had a time. Yes, you have a timeline. Manager, where did you want to respond to that? I did. Just a quick minute. Alderman Sanders, we've talked a couple times on the phone. We've never once discussed this subject and we've never asked any questions about it. We have had scheduled times to meet. We've had scheduled times for a minimum of six to eight months and we had not had a time to sit down. So I haven't had the opportunity to discuss those questions with you. So we have an upcoming meeting and I hope 00:47:04.580 --> 00:47:43.040 We can get together then. Okay. Okay, so back to, there's still a motion on the floor. Alderman Stacy, what do you want to do with that? Okay, I have a question. So if I pull my motion in hopes that it moves forward as it is, but then someone else make a motion to amend it, that can happen? Yes, it can. You know, it's like we respect 00:47:43.040 --> 00:48:16.150 respect Darren's opinion on everything. I mean, it's like Fairground runs this city. He have an opinion on everything and we give him the floor to express and respect his opinion. And so I don't understand why it can't be respected now. So in good faith that we're going to move forward 00:48:17.390 --> 00:48:32.580 As we have talked about the last three weeks, as what has been presented, I will remove my motion. 00:48:32.700 --> 00:48:34.280 Alderman Sanders, will you remove your second? 00:48:35.940 --> 00:48:44.020 I like to do that based upon what our city clerk presents to us from this day forward. 00:48:44.020 --> 00:49:09.640 She's been doing the job, she's been doing the job, I commend her for that because it does keep us abreast to the meetings that we are doing, that's the, she has the only mechanism in place that keeps us abreast on a weekly basis that I like to see continue, to continue, but yes, I do amend it, but the thing is, 00:49:09.640 --> 00:49:11.580 No, I'm asking if you'll remove your second 00:49:11.580 --> 00:49:13.240 Oh, yes, I will remove it 00:49:13.240 --> 00:49:18.960 Okay, so now we're back to the original ordinance on the second reading. Is there any discussion? Alderman Clemm 00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:39.440 Yes. Darren, this is a question. Understanding the ordinance, basically, do I see two parts of this? One is basically the financial end of it, but the main thing is, if this goes through, basically, then you're going to work with that person on it, whether it be daily 00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:44.280 or whatever basis to plan their route or where they're going with their heavy equipment, correct? 00:49:44.660 --> 00:49:51.860 Correct. Our process, and I've talked to a couple people on that, is they submit an email with their route if they're an annual. 00:49:51.860 --> 00:49:55.240 with their route. If they're an annual, they submit it with the route and we approve it. If there's no 00:49:55.240 --> 00:50:00.560 issues with that route, if it's, I keep using Locust Street because everybody knows it. If it would be 00:50:00.560 --> 00:50:06.020 down Locust Street, I would say no reroute and go down West Street, right? And which we have with the 00:50:06.020 --> 00:50:11.600 permit process, we have that opportunity to do that because we're reviewing their path. You also have to 00:50:11.600 --> 00:50:19.280 remember, you know, the local people that truck through Freeport all the time, they're moving 00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:25.960 trucks, you know, five, six days a week, so there is time and expense and issues to this, and I'm sure a lot of 00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:33.240 those people would do annual permits. The one-offs are for people that occasionally come through. I don't, I guess 00:50:33.240 --> 00:50:41.800 I tend to agree with City Manager Boyer that I don't think the amount is as important as the process, 00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:51.060 right so but I'm fine with whatever I suggested what myself and the public works team what little 00:50:51.060 --> 00:50:56.400 research we could do because you have to remember something in a city of Freeport whether we're 00:50:56.400 --> 00:51:03.600 talking about water or sewer or roads the city of Freeport has its own DNA right our costs are different 00:51:03.600 --> 00:51:09.520 than other towns cost our staff size is different than other staff size so what may work for one town 00:51:09.520 --> 00:51:15.540 won't work for another. That being said, you know, I'm flexible. We're not trying to drive people out of 00:51:15.540 --> 00:51:24.180 Freeport. We're just trying to make it a system that's used and can be monitored and tracked by the 00:51:24.180 --> 00:51:30.980 public works team and the movements through town to eliminate failing roads and issues. That's what 00:51:30.980 --> 00:51:37.880 it's for. Alderman Johnson. So like you just said, the main purpose of this is to try to protect our roads 00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:44.100 that we've already done and try not to break down the roads that we haven't been able to get to yet 00:51:44.100 --> 00:51:51.980 to try to make them so they're at least drivable. Also, you have, you said you've asked other cities 00:51:51.980 --> 00:51:58.920 kind of what they, you've done some research other places kind of what they charge and that sort of 00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:05.920 thing. And again, some of the bigger towns that we have to compare to, they have very sophisticated 00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:35.500 dedicated systems similar to the state where it's all automated processes people get an annual thing and then they turn in their routes and things like that and some of them like Rockford's if you look at theirs they pay by the pound we don't have scale systems and those would cost an immense amount of money to put scale systems in so we actually have the owners figure out their weight on their own and show that to us if they're overweight again I mean we spent a lot of time talking about this we're probably talking in the neighborhood of 00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:42.920 five to ten trucks a month, honestly, that are running overweight, right? Most of them run legal 00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:52.220 weights, and this does not pertain to them. Okay. Just two more questions. If we pass it with the 00:52:52.220 --> 00:52:59.940 amount that we designated at this time, what was it, 1,200 instead of 500, would there be any time 00:52:59.940 --> 00:53:05.060 possibly that we could change that if we felt like it was, I mean, the council could come back together 00:53:05.060 --> 00:53:18.080 and renegotiate that if we felt like that was a problem. Also, I was wondering, where does the money from the permits, what does that money go toward when we get the money for the permits, where does that money go? 00:53:18.080 --> 00:53:47.840 Sure. So, yes, it could come back to council at any time, just like any other ordinance, and have the cost change to a lower amount, higher amount, whatever the pleasure of the council. It just takes city manager, the mayor, or any council people to bring that back up to the meeting. And then all of our permit fees, doesn't matter what department it comes through, goes back to the general funds. They're paid in and finance, I believe, 00:53:47.840 --> 00:54:17.120 brings them all back through the general fund. Okay, thank you much. Mm-hmm. Alderman Sanders, you already spoke twice. I have. Is there any other discussion? Alderman Shadle? I just would like to reiterate that this gentleman mentioned this because the state fee is $1,400. The city came in at $1,200. He felt that was exorbitant for what it was. 00:54:17.120 --> 00:54:48.770 State versus the City. The 500 he felt would have been more appropriate. Another comment on to our City Clerk that I think she's doing a fine job. The notices on this agenda under Item 7 says View Memo, View State Statute, and View Permit Application. 00:54:48.770 --> 00:55:21.540 I think was pretty much everything you were saying she didn't have there but it's there. If there's no further discussion? Yeah. Well you spoke twice so I'd have no I'm not speaking I'm just saying is it is it prudent that someone makes a derogatory comment to another council sitting right in his ear about something that's not on the agenda? That's what I want to make reference to and that and and just because he made that comment I think 00:55:22.260 --> 00:55:37.940 there should be some kind of discretion being presented when a council does that, you know, when he has no, he's not agenda, he's not on agenda, I should not have been implemented in that agenda, that's what I'm getting at, and he put me there. 00:55:44.720 --> 00:55:58.320 Alderman Sanders, I think you had indicated that you wanted the clerk to do certain things there to give you that information, I think Alderman Shadle was just pointing out the fact that everything that you're asking for is hyperlinked to the agenda 00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:02.200 up by the clerk there. I think that's all he was saying. He was kind of answering your question. 00:56:02.620 --> 00:56:06.800 Okay. All right. I'll accept it today. I'll accept that. 00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:13.460 Okay. So is there any other discussion? If not, we'll take a vote. Madam Clerk, please take the roll. 00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:16.960 Stacy. Alderman Simmons. 00:56:17.580 --> 00:56:20.760 Manager Boyer, what is the amendment? Is it staying as... 00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:24.260 There is no amendment. It's the way it stands. Unless you want to make an amendment. 00:56:24.260 --> 00:56:25.540 We're voting on an amendment. 00:56:25.540 --> 00:56:59.580 no you're voting on an ordinance that there's no amendment that has gone forward if you'd like to put an amendment on that's up to you okay my bad yeah it says amending exactly that's what I'm saying the amending of this ordinance that we are voting on okay attorney Zito will answer that so the ordinance itself the ordinance that's been presented at cow and and first read and now second read it isn't an ordinance that is amending the 00:56:59.580 --> 00:57:06.960 existing ordinance to add a process there. And in that ordinance that's amending the current version of the 00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:15.600 code, it has a fee of $1,200 in it. During tonight's discussion, there were talks about an amendment to 00:57:15.600 --> 00:57:21.260 the underlying ordinance to change it to $500, but there was no motion to actually change the dollar 00:57:21.260 --> 00:57:27.880 amount to tweak the ordinance as presented. That's what I'm saying. Okay, no, there was no motion, but 00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:57.020 Manager Boyer agreed to doing it. No. No, he can't. He just said that's fair. City recommends that. He can't. So as long as that's not being changed. Correct. Okay. It needs the councils. Manager Boyer, he said that he's fine with it being $500 as a recommendation of his, but it's still up to you guys to decide whether or not you want to make the motion to actually implement that $500 change. That's all I wanted to clarify. Okay. Thank you. That it wouldn't be changed 00:57:57.020 --> 00:58:22.940 once we voted yes. Please take the roll on the ordinance as is. Stacey? Aye. Shadle? Aye. Sanders? Aye. Sellers? Aye. Clem? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. And Parker? Aye. The ordinance passes 8-0. Item number 8 is the second reading of ordinance 20-25-48. Could you please read this? 00:58:22.940 --> 00:58:29.580 ordinance amending chapter 1252 of the zoning code of the city of Freeport concerning physical 00:58:29.580 --> 00:58:37.080 culture centers. Director Duckman. Thank you, Madam Mayor. So this ordinance, nothing has changed since 00:58:37.080 --> 00:58:44.200 the first reading, but there were some questions about number of actual physical cultural centers 00:58:44.200 --> 00:58:52.240 slash gyms that have come into the area and how often a subject like this would occur. And in the 00:58:52.240 --> 00:58:59.500 past year, we've had four actual athletic centers, physical, cultural centers, gyms come through the city of Freeport. 00:59:00.420 --> 00:59:10.240 We've had, in March 3rd, we approved it in council. 18 South Chicago was Magicians Academy MMA, so that was in March 3rd. 00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:19.200 Then we also had a new gym who's still working on their build out, so they haven't given their name yet, but that was at Cub Foods, so that was July 7th at 25. 00:59:19.200 --> 00:59:26.960 We just recently had the Studio Elan Pilates Studio at 2-6 East Stevenson. That was July 21st, 2025. 00:59:27.680 --> 00:59:34.540 And then we also had the Freeport Martial Arts at 105-107 West Main Street. So those are, and that was 00:59:34.540 --> 00:59:43.260 called Freeport Martial Arts. That was July 21st, 2025. So that gives a little background on why staff 00:59:43.260 --> 00:59:48.160 has presented this what's known as a text amendment. 00:59:48.300 --> 00:59:49.660 We brought it to Planning Commission. 00:59:49.660 --> 01:00:17.820 We brought it to Planning Commission and we looked at our comprehensive plan and we stated that we're seeing an influx of what is a positive land use, which is physical activity. There's plenty of complaints that our community doesn't have enough positive activities to do and we're seeing quite a bit of an influx of these gyms, physical cultural centers, and there's quite a bit of red tape having to take every time somebody wants to open a gym in the business district. 01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:24.980 they're having to go through to city council. And so, you know, what to consider here is when your 01:00:24.980 --> 01:00:30.100 constituents say, and it happens, council members will come up to me and say, why are you putting this 01:00:30.100 --> 01:00:37.040 business owner through all this red tape to open up a gym or a Pilates studio? And well, the answer is, 01:00:37.520 --> 01:00:43.120 well, I mean, now's your chance to vote for that. Now you're considering does every gym, as every Pilates 01:00:43.120 --> 01:00:50.360 studio, every aerobic studio, anything in this city, should they go through a special use permit or does 01:00:50.360 --> 01:00:58.280 councils see it as our planning commission sees it and that this is a use where they should be allowed 01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:05.740 to do it by right and certainly anybody in this city is subject to building codes. They would still have to 01:01:05.740 --> 01:01:12.240 get a certificate of occupancy. They would still have to pass their fire code inspections, etc. So that's 01:01:12.240 --> 01:01:40.640 That's really what's before you today. Thank you. Alderman Sanders. Yeah. Are you receiving complaints from these business owners? I would say nine out of ten business owners complain on any permit they have to fill out. Okay. And so does the permit stipulate exactly what the criteria is for them to meet certain things with inside of this permit? 01:01:40.640 --> 01:02:10.140 does that is that presented with inside of the permit itself? Every permit states what is requested and what's going to be reviewed. Yes. So why are we why are we listening to people that is trying to alter the permit if they don't want to work inside of the guidelines of the permit? Why are we allowing the permit to be altered to be convenient to some and not to others? That's not true. That's not true. 01:02:10.140 --> 01:02:11.660 Well, that's what I'm hearing 01:02:11.660 --> 01:02:12.900 I can explain again 01:02:12.900 --> 01:02:39.340 Well, you may be able to explain that, but what I'm saying is, it's not anything that if our permit is not stipulating with guidelines that business owner wants to open up their business and understand that these are the parameters of this permit and I have to meet all of the things that are within this guideline 01:02:39.340 --> 01:02:47.720 Why are we having a complaint issue with owners or business prospective owners about the permits? 01:02:48.340 --> 01:03:02.860 To answer your question quickly, most business owners would prefer not to have to pay for permits, so this costs money, and most business owners would like to be efficient and start opening up their business right away. 01:03:02.860 --> 01:03:32.840 so as in general a general answer to your comment is less regulation from a business owner's perspective they're going to want less regulation from a staff perspective I brought four physical cultural centers before council this year and I will gladly do four more 20 more this department would will stand by and bring every single gym Pilates studio to city council that's what's before you today this 01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:39.800 this measure was brought not for one specific owner not because people complained they it simply was brought 01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:48.140 because when a land use when you see an influx of people wanting to start gyms studios and you're 01:03:48.140 --> 01:03:54.580 looking at it and saying does does every gym that opens up it does that warrant having to come to council 01:03:54.580 --> 01:04:01.760 and delay opening their business every time a gym comes to the city to get their proper permits and 01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:31.620 we've seen four people do it in the past year if that's the if that's what the pleasure of counsel is I'm not I'm not arguing that I'm giving Mr. Doug yes the permits are self-explanatory sure and and we are and there's no argument that and the fact that you are I understand that you have to listen to the business owners and put things like that I can if they're if it's if it's better to serve them in a particular way I can understand the alterations 01:04:31.620 --> 01:04:59.960 and permits if it's all agreed upon, especially coming from the council. If there's any changes in the permit that satisfy them all together, I don't want it to be one side and the other side. And if that's the case, we need to be able to look at it again, have another assessment about it, talk about it again like we're doing now, and I'm liking the comments that you're making. 01:04:59.960 --> 01:05:29.940 And I don't like to drive people out of business neither. I want them to be able to be comparable in what they're doing and being able to serve the city of Freeport. And so when we're doing that, that's all I wanted to do is bring clarity to and let the people know and not only let the council know, but let the citizens of Freeport know that we are looking into these matters with our eyes open, you know, that kind of thing. 01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:59.940 of things. So that's all I'm saying. I understand that. Respect that. Alderman Johnson. I just have some information because I know we had a question of what physical culture center means. The definition is a place dedicated to the systematic cultivation of physical fitness and health through various exercises and practices. The concept is rooted in the belief that physical development and health are interconnected with cultural values and contribute to a holistic sense of well-being. And I just went 01:05:59.940 --> 01:06:29.920 went through and hunted how many of these are in the city of Freeport, and what I could find online, there was 22. That includes your martial arts, that includes exercise places, that includes yoga places, so just to let you know, there are 22 already in the city. Also, I have a question, is there a place where they can open up these without having to come to the council for rezoning, or without having the permit? 01:06:29.940 --> 01:06:59.920 there is it's there is it's more restrictive because anytime you have right now it's in the B2, B3 or manufacturing districts so anytime when you're creating the plan of your city when you get into you get into more intense business districts B2, B3 the city is going to typically have smaller areas where you could have factories or more intense uses body shops etc right now physical cultural center 01:06:59.920 --> 01:07:07.620 owners are considered by our zoning the same as a body shop, the same as manufacturing. And what we're 01:07:07.620 --> 01:07:16.380 seeing is staff is seeing it and we think that that's restrictive and that with an influx of a 01:07:16.380 --> 01:07:23.180 positive land use, physical activity, working out, it's good for our community. We're not seeing it the 01:07:23.180 --> 01:07:29.360 same as those more intense uses. And they would have to go to those more intense uses and find 01:07:29.360 --> 01:08:00.210 locations where they could put them to fit there so that's really what this is about is um seeing an influx in this use which staff thinks is as a positive for the city we we're happy that people want to bring physical health to our community we're just trying to be more business friendly to say we shouldn't have to bring these every single gym that opens up would be bringing it to council for approval okay thank you yep madam clerk please take the roll Stacy 01:08:00.770 --> 01:08:30.750 Aye. Shadle. Aye. Sanders. Aye. Sellers. Aye. Clem. Aye. Johnson. No. Simmons. No. Parker. Aye. The ordinance passes 6 to 2. Item number 9 is the second reading of ordinance 2025-49. Could you please read this? Ordinance amending chapter 1252 of the zoning code of the city of Freeport concerning service of alcoholic liquors. Director Duckman. Thank you, Madam Mayor. So nothing here 01:08:30.750 --> 01:08:38.230 has changed yet nothing has changed on this since the first reading and so essentially what this is is our 01:08:38.230 --> 01:08:48.510 codified ordinances state serve and not sell alcohol so currently what we're saying is that you would not 01:08:48.510 --> 01:08:58.290 need to get a special use permit if you are in a BYOB bring your own alcohol establishment because our 01:08:58.290 --> 01:09:29.870 current ordinances say sell as opposed to serve so what this is essentially this is a cleaning up of the language review by our legal counsel saying that we're trying to be we're trying to hold our BYOB establishments to the same standard that our our bars and restaurants in town are and that's it's so to make sure that they would still have to get a special use permit any additional discussion on this reading. 01:09:29.950 --> 01:09:47.950 Alderman Sanders. Yeah, what, uh, can you repeat that again on the last, the last thing that you said about, um, bringing their own, uh, um, BO, whatever. Right, so we, you know, we've had plenty of discussions over the past year, and 01:09:47.950 --> 01:10:15.520 over the past year and meeting halls are typical use where you're going to have a bring your own alcohol establishment and you're going to serve it you're not going to charge a fee you're not going to go buy a glass of wine or a beer. Yeah. And so all of the liquor licenses are required to have a special use permit first. Okay, so there's a loophole that currently exists where if you're in a BYOB or 01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:26.120 you're not charging per drink. It's a loophole. We're cleaning up the language that says sell alcohol. 01:10:26.360 --> 01:10:30.960 So since that establishment, the meeting hall is not selling alcohol, they would not have to go get the 01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:37.140 special use permit. And our attorney did a review of our code and said, we really should clean this up to 01:10:37.140 --> 01:10:42.580 make sure that they're on the same playing field to make it fair. What you're saying is at these meeting 01:10:42.580 --> 01:11:00.020 Halls. I'm trying to get the interpretation of where this product can be served. Is it meeting halls or is it in any other establishment type of venue or establishment that this BYLB? 01:11:00.020 --> 01:11:12.320 Yeah. And do we have the correct meaning of interpretation of where this can be served? I mean, is that established? Have we established that? 01:11:12.320 --> 01:11:35.260 Yes. Because we need to be able to make a differentiation of which one is which. And that's why we're here. That's why this is here is that it's been reviewed and anywhere that's serving or selling either one, they're going to have to be on the same playing field. That's why this is here to make sure we're fair and we're treating everyone the same. 01:11:35.260 --> 01:11:40.240 Okay. Now, my question also is 01:11:40.240 --> 01:11:41.760 Did you want to use your second time? 01:11:42.140 --> 01:11:43.380 Yeah, let me do that. 01:11:45.940 --> 01:12:03.900 These meeting venues or meeting places, as you make reference to, are not always established restaurants, what we call bars or whatever the case is, and people are just out having a convention or an event or an event. 01:12:03.900 --> 01:12:13.340 But they're actually, in those type of meetings, alcohol is being served, but they're also being charged. 01:12:14.080 --> 01:12:29.980 What's the difference between the two? Because if a person wants to bring his own, and the venue already established a prop bar for sale, is there a problem there? 01:12:29.980 --> 01:12:55.100 Yes, there's two different, there's different classes of liquor licenses and a meeting hall is not supposed, if a meeting hall gets their BYOB liquor license, they are not allowed to sell alcohol. Okay. So that's, that takes care of your, your concern. You know, if, as soon as you say, I'm going to sell a drink to you as a bar or restaurant, would that's a different class of liquor license? 01:12:55.100 --> 01:13:08.840 Well, I'm referring to any venue, meeting hall, that sets up a bar when at a meeting people want to have something at the bar and they're normally charged 01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:09.960 They should be 01:13:09.960 --> 01:13:12.980 Yeah, and they should have a permit for that, am I correct? 01:13:13.120 --> 01:13:14.280 You are correct and they do 01:13:14.280 --> 01:13:19.520 Yeah, and how do we determine whether they are eligible to do so? 01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:22.600 Well, that's part of this, right? We have a liquor commission 01:13:22.600 --> 01:13:52.580 and if somebody wants to sell alcohol serve alcohol what they know what they would like to do they come to City Hall they talk to my department they talk to clerk Anderson's department and then we figure out which licenses they need when you go before you go to a liquor commission meeting which would determine if you meet the requirements for liquor license you have to go and through a special use permit process which is through my through the community development department and what this is saying is 01:13:52.600 --> 01:14:21.880 is the language is clearing it up from sell to serve because some establishments don't serve don't charge for alcohol right right well my point is there are a lot of them that does and they're taken care of and I like to know whether or not they're receiving permits that allows them to be eligible to do so because in that same in that same sector a BYOB whatever that is I don't know the right term 01:14:21.880 --> 01:14:51.860 Michael might want to be able to walk into an establishment of that nature and bring his own liquor without notifying the bar, whoever, to find out whether the eligibility is okay to bring their own liquor into an establishment or an event that they're in, if there's a bar in place, which one governs over the whole event when it comes to sale of liquor or service of liquor. 01:14:51.880 --> 01:15:21.740 Parker. I'm sorry, I don't understand. Okay, so Madam Clerk, would you like to say something? So when the meeting hall ordinance was rewritten, bars and restaurants that serve alcohol are exempt from getting a meeting hall license. So what would be an example? The bowling alley. Sure. If they had a banquet room, we are not going to require them to get a meeting hall license 01:15:21.740 --> 01:15:28.920 for their banquet room. It was decided that places that sell liquor are pretty heavily regulated and we 01:15:28.920 --> 01:15:35.060 would not put them through the meeting hall process. So if they are a bar or a restaurant, they're not a 01:15:35.060 --> 01:15:44.660 meeting hall. If they are a meeting hall, they have the option to have a BYOB. Or there can be a meeting 01:15:44.660 --> 01:16:14.400 Hall that doesn't have BYOB. But if you are bringing your own liquor. My point is how do you establish that? How does a person not knowing what the establishment permit, if they don't have a posting notification sign before they enter into any event venue or banquet or whatever the case is, if there's no sign posted saying that this is not a B-O-Y-B-whatever establishment, 01:16:14.400 --> 01:16:33.460 We are a permit to sell, and that's what you get at these establishments, and you have to be able to distinguish the difference when a person come off the street and want to attend this event, they need to know whether they can, wait a minute, are you? 01:16:33.460 --> 01:16:42.900 So, Alderman Sanders, you've actually spoken like four times now, so, yeah, so, if you want to, well, I just wanted to bring that up, I just needed clarity on that, that's all I wanted. 01:16:42.900 --> 01:17:05.260 Well, I mean, yeah. Rest assured that it's a process. We have a Liquor Commission meeting and anybody who is serving or selling alcohol is regulated through our department and whatever concerns you have. I mean, you know, certainly if there's ever a major concern the next time there's a Liquor Commission meeting, I would suggest going because they will talk about, you know, they talk about all that at the Liquor Commission. 01:17:05.800 --> 01:17:07.480 Very good. Very good. That's all I was looking for. 01:17:07.480 --> 01:17:08.240 Understood. Understood. 01:17:08.240 --> 01:17:15.960 Okay, so if there's no further discussion on this text amendment, would you please take the vote? 01:17:16.780 --> 01:17:19.860 Stacey? Aye. 01:17:20.300 --> 01:17:21.060 Shadle? Aye. 01:17:21.380 --> 01:17:22.140 Sanders? Aye. 01:17:22.540 --> 01:17:23.340 Sellers? Aye. 01:17:23.540 --> 01:17:24.260 Clem? Aye. 01:17:24.660 --> 01:17:25.480 Johnson? Aye. 01:17:25.780 --> 01:17:26.620 Simmons? No. 01:17:27.240 --> 01:17:28.280 And Parker? Aye. 01:17:29.040 --> 01:17:31.500 The ordinance passes 7 to 1. 01:17:32.060 --> 01:17:36.400 Item number 10 is the second reading of ordinance 2025-50. Could you please read this? 01:17:36.400 --> 01:17:56.660 Ordinance approving special use permit application at 2600 West Pearl City Road submitted by Harmony UMC to examine the special use of an R3 one-family residence zone property to allow for solar energy systems which utilize ground-mounted PV arrays per section 1250.01B20. 01:17:57.380 --> 01:18:02.600 Alderman Schadel, or who wanted to present this? Director Duckman, is it you? 01:18:02.600 --> 01:18:04.560 I can see how it's going to go. 01:18:04.560 --> 01:18:29.020 Hawk. I guess I would just bring it, I'll speak on behalf of this. So essentially this was brought 01:18:29.020 --> 01:18:37.160 originally to council on July 21st and it didn't, it essentially was brought to the floor and there 01:18:37.160 --> 01:18:43.520 was no motion made on it for a vote or discussion at all. It was just brought and there was never a 01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:51.040 motion or a second to discuss it. So what we're talking about here, it's been brought again to 01:18:51.040 --> 01:19:01.060 Council and essentially what we have here is this is the church here and you can see these are the existing 01:19:01.060 --> 01:19:07.880 panels on a shed roof which is allowed by right. They don't have to go to council to ask for permission 01:19:07.880 --> 01:19:13.620 here but they're asking for 120 feet here or I'm sorry it's 120 feet from the property line here which is 01:19:13.620 --> 01:19:21.020 you have a natural barrier of trees and you have the building line here and you can see that 01:19:21.020 --> 01:19:45.720 the solar panels were back further away from the view screen from the road here. So essentially, this is Pearl City Road here. As you come down, originally the developer or the church and Stateline Solar were discussing filling this entire area with solar panels as well as this entire area with solar panels. It's a lot of electricity there. 01:19:45.720 --> 01:20:13.580 a lot of electricity there. They now are down to this small area right in here. So it's been brought again on the floor and it's up for approval. Any discussion? Alderman Johnson. So this will not be seen from Pearl City Road, right? It's pretty well hidden. I would say you really have to look for it. You know what I mean? You see where like if you're coming down here, you'd have to like you might get a shot of it. 01:20:14.180 --> 01:20:18.580 right through there but you'd really have to be you know what I mean you'd have to be looking for it 01:20:18.580 --> 01:20:23.460 because you're going by here so fast and then from the other direction if your eyes are focused I don't 01:20:23.460 --> 01:20:30.820 think you would see it going eastbound okay thank you you're welcome Goldman Sanders they're they're not 01:20:30.820 --> 01:20:36.900 asking for major changes there in that area my opinion my opinion is no you can see these are 01:20:36.900 --> 01:20:42.100 the changes see that little section of solar panels right there that's what they're asking for yeah so 01:20:42.100 --> 01:21:13.060 So that's not an eyesore or anything? Not in my opinion. Okay. There's no further discussion. Madam Clerk, please take the roll. Stacy? Aye. Shadle? Aye. Sanders? Aye. Sellers? Aye. Clem? No. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? I'm staying. And Parker? Aye. The motion passes. Five, six, six, one, one. 01:21:13.060 --> 01:21:42.920 thank you item number 11 is the first reading of ordinance 2025 51 could you please read this ordinance amending part 4 traffic code title 8 parking chapter 480 parking generally section 480 point 24 disabled persons and veterans of the codified ordinances of the city of Freeport at 304 to 310 West Garfield thank you manager where thank you mayor the tenant at 304 through 310 West Garfield contacted the city requesting an 01:21:42.920 --> 01:22:10.140 an accessible parking space. The actual property doesn't have a driveway and they have on-street parking only in that location. The neighbors generally park along the street edge and block the only accessible sidewalk there is, walkway to the residence, and staff has inspected and is making the recommendation that we move forward with adding a parking restriction, which includes the disabled parking spot on Garfield. 01:22:10.140 --> 01:22:39.540 so also staff is requesting suspension of the rules so we can move forward with this is there a motion to move this forward some move second the motion made by Alderman Sellers seconded by Alderman Shadle to move this ordinance forward Alderman Shadle yes I the only question I have I be all for this we need to take care of people that need that the only question I have is in in our ordinances is there any stipulations that 01:22:40.140 --> 01:23:08.460 as these people if they would move or if they would I guess ultimately not be disabled anymore is there any provisions for them to contact us so that we can move this back into a normal parking space if it's no longer needed yeah and I I agree with that I'm not aware of any but maybe the clerk has I don't think yeah I I'm not aware of any um requirement for them to notify the city that they just say maybe we should think yeah understood 01:23:08.460 --> 01:23:10.160 Holderman, Stacy? 01:23:10.880 --> 01:23:16.680 Is this something that would be considered no matter where you lived in the city? 01:23:16.860 --> 01:23:19.040 Do everybody have this right? 01:23:20.600 --> 01:23:31.800 Well, if you're mobility challenged, I think we've got to do our due diligence to ensure that we can do this for them because, I mean, there are a lot of people here in town that we've done this for. 01:23:32.760 --> 01:23:33.900 As long as it doesn't... 01:23:33.900 --> 01:23:35.040 This person doesn't have a driveway, correct? 01:23:35.560 --> 01:23:37.040 This person does not have a driveway. 01:23:37.040 --> 01:23:49.100 Okay, but I'm just saying, would this apply to everyone that had mobility problems that lived in this city, regardless of where they lived? 01:23:49.880 --> 01:23:55.060 Well, so far, we have not had very many requests, and of the ones that we've had, we've granted. 01:23:56.060 --> 01:23:56.260 Yeah. 01:23:58.060 --> 01:23:58.980 Alderman Sanders? 01:23:58.980 --> 01:24:27.800 Yeah, I'm very aware of that, and the fact that it's been done expeditiously, considered, I think, like the recommendation for all citizens in the city of Freeport that has in mobility to manage their exiting, their entry and exit, to be efficient enough for them to get in and out of their property. 01:24:27.800 --> 01:24:57.000 and I like the fact that Alderman Shadle brought up the fact that if there's any changes in their status, will it go back to normal status of that property or that particular area? I like that. I think that should be something that we should continue to look at and to continue to consider and I think it should be applied to all people in that condition, in that situation. 01:24:57.800 --> 01:25:07.800 Alderman Clem? I make a motion to suspend the rules. Second. Motion made by Alderman Clem, seconded by Alderman 01:25:07.800 --> 01:25:12.400 Shadle for suspension of the rules. Suspension of the rules is non-debatable. It must pass by two-thirds 01:25:12.400 --> 01:25:20.140 majority. Madam Clerk, could you please take the vote on the suspension only? Stacey? Aye. Shadle? Aye. 01:25:20.380 --> 01:25:27.780 Sanders? Aye. Sellers? Aye. Clem? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. Parker? Aye. The motion passed. 01:25:27.800 --> 01:25:57.720 passes 8 to 0. And before your council is the final passage for this ordinance. Is there any further discussion? Madam Clerk, please take the roll. Stacy? Aye. Shadle? Aye. Sanders? Aye. Sellers? Aye. Clem? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. Parker? Aye. And the ordinance passes 8 to 0 as well. And item number 12 is the first reading of ordinance 2025-52. Could you please read this? Ordinance authorizing the sale, recycling, donation, and or disposal of certain 01:25:57.720 --> 01:26:03.260 personal property owned by the city, police department abandoned personal property and bicycles, 01:26:03.260 --> 01:26:14.540 and an old chair in my office. Police department. Thank you, Madam Mayor. The background is the Freeport 01:26:14.540 --> 01:26:20.540 Police Department is currently in need of disposing property at the Freeport City Yards 1001 North 01:26:20.540 --> 01:26:26.040 Island Avenue and auction off abandoned property being held by evidence and property. In discussion, 01:26:26.040 --> 01:26:56.020 There are abandoned bikes that have been in the possession of the Freeport Police Department for at least six months being stored at the Freeport City Yards. There are also items being held by evidence and property that can be considered abandoned property. These items have been in the custody of the police department for at least six months. The owners of the items have been notified to pick up the property. However, the owners have been unresponsive. The Freeport Police Department would like to use propertyroom.com to auction off abandoned property. Any proceeds earned, 01:26:56.040 --> 01:27:17.900 would go to the City of Freeport General Fund. Additionally, the clerk has one office chair that can be added to the disposal list. Funding, there is no funding necessary. Request, staff is requesting to recycle the bicycles, dispose of the clerk's chair, and auction off the abandoned property. Strategic plan alignment for responsive and efficient government. 01:27:17.900 --> 01:27:21.400 Is there a motion to move this forward? 01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:22.040 So moved. 01:27:22.360 --> 01:27:22.640 Second. 01:27:23.320 --> 01:27:27.680 A motion made by Alderman Parker, seconded by Alderman Clemm. 01:27:28.500 --> 01:27:29.820 Discussion on this ordinance? 01:27:30.960 --> 01:27:31.320 Yes. 01:27:31.860 --> 01:27:32.480 Alderman Shadle? 01:27:33.860 --> 01:27:36.180 I'm sorry, Alderman Sanders, forgive me. 01:27:36.400 --> 01:27:38.580 I was going to ask you if you want to wear a pair of these here. 01:27:39.420 --> 01:27:41.040 Just got to turn my hearing aids up. 01:27:41.040 --> 01:27:42.660 Oh, okay. 01:27:42.660 --> 01:28:12.640 Well, I wanted to ask, is this the notification that went out to the community that you guys are going to do this disposal or auctioning and things of that nature where they can get more data information about if they want to come take a look to see if they want to take an opportunity to look at items that 01:28:12.640 --> 01:28:42.460 could be sold or things that needs to be disposed. And I just wanted to make sure that our community is well informed about this. And not only that, whatever the proceeds are that is generated from that, I think we should let the community know exactly what we've received from those donations, those sales that we're making. 01:28:42.640 --> 01:29:10.540 is that okay with you? So to answer your question, this is the notification that we're doing. If anybody in the community would like the opportunity to bid on those items, they are on or will be on propertyroom.com. Propertyroom.com, when items sell, they then provide record of what it was sold for, what the amount was, and then those funds go back to the city, period. 01:29:10.540 --> 01:29:40.520 Mayor, Parker, Motion to suspend the rules. Second. Motion made by Alderman Parker, seconded by Alderman Clem for suspension of the rules. Well, before we do a suspension of the rules, Mayor. That's what's on the motion right now. Yeah, I know the motion has been made, but are we done having a discussion before? We can come back to it if you want. Okay, that's what I'm getting at. So a suspension of the rules must pass by two-thirds majority. Madam Clerk, could you please take the roll? 01:29:40.520 --> 01:29:43.860 the suspension only. Stacy? Aye. Shadle? 01:29:43.860 --> 01:29:56.260 Casey, Aye, Shadle, Aye, Sanders, Aye, Sellers, Aye, Clem, Aye, Johnson, Aye, Simmons, Absent, and Parker, Aye, the suspension pass is 7-0. 01:29:56.260 --> 01:30:01.940 Okay, so now before you is the second reading. So, Alderman Sanders, did you have another question? 01:30:02.240 --> 01:30:06.480 You know, Mayor, when I get interrupted like that, I can't. 01:30:06.480 --> 01:30:09.380 Well, there was a motion on the floor, so if you want to come back to you, we can. 01:30:09.380 --> 01:30:15.360 any other discussion? You made me lose my train of thought because I had much to talk about. 01:30:16.240 --> 01:30:20.960 But anyway, anybody else? If there's no further discussion, Madam Clerk, please take the roll. 01:30:21.340 --> 01:30:32.340 Stacey? Aye. Shadle? Aye. Sanders? Aye. Sellers? Aye. Clem? Aye. Johnson? Aye. And Parker? Aye. The ordinance passes 7 to 0. 01:30:33.000 --> 01:30:38.780 Item number 13 is the adoption of Resolution 2025-86. Could you please read this? 01:30:38.780 --> 01:30:48.280 Resolution authorizing execution and amendment of downstate operating assistance program or DOPE grant agreement for fiscal year 2026. 01:30:48.680 --> 01:30:49.500 Director Duckman. 01:30:50.460 --> 01:30:51.840 Thank you, Madam Mayor. 01:30:52.240 --> 01:31:08.300 What is before you right now is a resolution for an agreement with the Illinois Department of Transportation to accept the $2.1 million in funding for the operation of the Pretzel City Area Transit Program. 01:31:08.780 --> 01:31:22.340 So I've looked through the proposed budget. It's been approved through the Illinois Department of Transportation, and staff is recommending approval of this resolution. 01:31:23.380 --> 01:31:24.660 Is there a motion for approval? 01:31:25.140 --> 01:31:25.740 So moved. 01:31:25.900 --> 01:31:26.220 Second. 01:31:26.220 --> 01:31:26.620 Second. 01:31:28.060 --> 01:31:35.140 We have a motion made by Alderman Clem, seconded by Alderman Sellers. Discussion on the resolution? Alderman Sanders? 01:31:35.140 --> 01:32:04.640 The grant, how is that prioritized throughout the city and who's receiving this grant and how it's going to be beneficial to the constituents of the city where when everyone should have the opportunity to utilize all of the services of this grant opportunity. 01:32:04.640 --> 01:32:34.640 City. I just don't want it to be a targeted type of grant for any particular department, entity, or whatever the case may be. I want to know how we're prioritizing all of these kinds of things. Okay, so this City Manager, would you like to address that, please? Yes, I would. Alderman Sanders, I just wanted to reassure you, this is Prunzel City Transit. Everybody has access to it, and that is what this is for. Well, you may make a short statement like that, but that's not what I heard last week. Okay? Okay, so are you asking for your 01:32:34.640 --> 01:32:42.720 Well, no, he's making a statement toward me. He's making a comment toward me. It's not me using my time. 01:32:43.240 --> 01:32:48.080 Okay, then I haven't given you the floor. So I'm asking you, would you like to have your second time? 01:32:48.380 --> 01:32:50.080 Why would I want to do that when I'm answering? 01:32:50.080 --> 01:32:51.240 Okay, then we'll move on. 01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:56.200 You can't do that, Mayor, because I am answering him. 01:32:56.680 --> 01:32:57.760 He didn't ask you a question. 01:32:57.760 --> 01:33:04.560 As far as I'm concerned, he's making a comment that is making a reference to what I'm talking about already. 01:33:04.640 --> 01:33:16.640 And my point of the matter is, if he's going to say stuff like that, I should be able to rebut it. That's all I'm saying. I should be able to rebut what he is saying without using my own question. 01:33:16.640 --> 01:33:18.960 Okay, so you're using your second term. 01:33:19.380 --> 01:33:21.100 I'm not using a second term. 01:33:21.200 --> 01:33:24.620 Okay, then we're going to move on. Do we have anything else on this? 01:33:25.100 --> 01:33:25.680 You know what? 01:33:25.680 --> 01:33:44.610 Alderman Stacy. Explain to me what this grant agreement consists of, who weeps the benefits from it, and what does it do for our city? 01:33:45.610 --> 01:33:58.090 Sure. The short answer, to not complicate things, but I'll get complicated later, the short answer is if we do not enter this agreement, Pretzel City Area Transit does not exist. 01:33:58.110 --> 01:34:28.110 so we need this agreement to fund the Pretzel City Area Transit for 2.1 million dollars so if we don't it I mean it's I can't say it any more plain than that it's very simple if we don't approve this Pretzel City Area Transit will not exist Pretzel City Area Transit exists because of this grant right that money goes to nowhere else so we've gotten this grant before always and all of this 2.1 million 01:34:28.110 --> 01:34:35.190 goes to Pretzel City. Yes. And that's how they've been able to exist all this time in Freeport? That is 01:34:35.190 --> 01:34:46.800 correct. That is 100% correct. Okay, so why wouldn't the memo say that? Keep it plain. Make it simple. Make it 01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:57.340 plain. We need this for Pretzel City to exist. Without it, there is none. I thought it was clear in the memo, 01:34:57.340 --> 01:35:03.080 I don't know, but I can say it more, I said it more plain now, I can certainly make it more plain next time, next round. 01:35:03.840 --> 01:35:05.440 I'd like to make a second. 01:35:05.440 --> 01:35:07.360 Okay, Alderman Sanders, would you like your second time? 01:35:08.180 --> 01:35:20.340 Yeah, I hope what I said earlier was not ignored, okay, because of the fact that I asked the priorities of entities that are going to be utilizing this grant. 01:35:20.340 --> 01:35:50.320 Grant. That's what I did bring to the floor. I wanted to make sure that we had clarity that what entity in this city is using that particular grant, not just the Pressel City, but whether or not any other department or whatever that's throughout the city going to be utilizing this grant. That's the part that I want to stay focused on. Don't discard that or dismiss it like I didn't 01:35:50.320 --> 01:35:57.540 even mention it. I would like to know if there's any other establishment or department heads or whatever 01:35:57.540 --> 01:36:05.600 department are going to be using this grant. And I hear Preston City. I understand that. But the breakdown of 01:36:05.600 --> 01:36:14.640 this grant, is it just for the Preston City or any other governing body? The only, this grant stands for 01:36:14.640 --> 01:36:39.820 D.O.A.P. stands for Downstate Operating Assistance Program, and that grant is specific for rural communities, which we are, per their grant guidelines, and it's for public transportation. So that is the only, this grant money is only used for Pretzel City Transit. That's all it can be used for, and we apply for it every year. 01:36:39.820 --> 01:36:41.480 What, but what we're saying is 01:36:41.480 --> 01:36:41.940 You don't have the floor 01:36:41.940 --> 01:36:45.020 I'm sorry, you don't have the floor 01:36:45.020 --> 01:36:46.960 Alderman Shadle 01:36:46.960 --> 01:36:50.300 Yes, I failed to print that memo 01:36:50.300 --> 01:36:51.740 Would you care to read that? 01:36:52.120 --> 01:36:52.400 Okay 01:36:52.400 --> 01:36:55.060 Sure 01:36:55.060 --> 01:37:01.560 Pretzel City Area Transit provides on-demand transportation services within Freeport and Stevenson County 01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:07.660 Funding to provide transportation services are obtained through annual applications under the State of Illinois 5311 01:37:07.660 --> 01:37:13.680 and Downstate Operating Assistance Program grants. So to your point, Alderperson Stacy, that's where I had said 01:37:13.680 --> 01:37:21.220 it does not exist without this grant assistance. Then I go on to discussion and I say as part of our 01:37:21.220 --> 01:37:27.160 annual transportation grant application to the state of Illinois under the 5311 Transportation Program and 01:37:27.160 --> 01:37:32.020 Downstate Operating Assistance Program, the city of Freeport is required to have council approve the 01:37:32.020 --> 01:37:37.040 following. One, an ordinance adopting transportation services within Freeport and Stevenson County. 01:37:37.040 --> 01:37:42.660 to a resolution authorizing an application to be made to the Office of Intermodal Project Implementation 01:37:42.660 --> 01:37:48.560 Department of Transportation State of Illinois for a financial assistance grant under Section 5311 for 01:37:48.560 --> 01:37:53.940 fiscal year 2026 for the purchase of offsetting a portion of the public transportation program 01:37:53.940 --> 01:38:00.200 operating deficits to the City of Freeport. Three, a resolution accepting that the City of Freeport is 01:38:00.200 --> 01:38:05.260 participating in said operating assistance programs will provide local and matching funds once application 01:38:05.260 --> 01:38:12.480 is approved. That is what you are on right now. Items 1 through 2 were approved prior to the 01:38:12.480 --> 01:38:16.720 submittal of the transportation grant applications. Resolution authorizing the execution of the 01:38:16.720 --> 01:38:21.840 Downstate Operating Assistance Program grant is now presented to accept and enter into the grant 01:38:21.840 --> 01:38:26.740 agreement. And the recommendation is staff recommends approval of the resolution in order to move forward 01:38:26.740 --> 01:38:33.140 with the grant agreement. Thank you. Alderman Shadle, did you have more? I just would like to say that 01:38:33.140 --> 01:39:01.540 that was in the memo, hyperlinked by our city clerk. Mayor, you've already spoke twice. Yeah, but you didn't ask me if I had more. You did not ask me if I had more. Well, that's because you just interrupt all the time. Yeah, well, you can't say that. My point is, when I was on the floor. Alderman Sanders, will you please wait until you are called on? Yeah, but you didn't ask me if I had more to say. You're being disruptive. Please don't make me call you out of order. Alderman Stacey, did you have something? 01:39:01.540 --> 01:39:09.040 Is there any other discussion on this particular resolution? Madam Clerk, please take the roll. 01:39:09.700 --> 01:39:12.320 Stacey? Aye. 01:39:12.820 --> 01:39:13.540 Shadle? Aye. 01:39:13.940 --> 01:39:14.740 Sanders? Aye. 01:39:15.200 --> 01:39:16.220 Sellers? Aye. 01:39:16.400 --> 01:39:17.200 Clem? Aye. 01:39:17.520 --> 01:39:18.420 Johnson? Aye. 01:39:18.720 --> 01:39:19.720 Simmons? Aye. 01:39:19.960 --> 01:39:20.980 And Parker? Aye. 01:39:20.980 --> 01:39:23.540 The resolution is adopted 8-0. 01:39:24.080 --> 01:39:28.400 Item number 14 is adoption of Resolution 2025-87. Could you please read this? 01:39:28.400 --> 01:39:34.960 Resolution approving an agreement with Fehr Graham to provide construction engineering services for Walnut Avenue lift station. 01:39:35.280 --> 01:39:35.920 Manager Boyer 01:39:35.920 --> 01:39:41.620 Thank you, Your Honor. Just to touch on Walnut Street lift station, the idea is 01:39:41.620 --> 01:39:46.320 Street Lift Station. The idea is the lift station we put near the corner of Lamb Road and Walnut Road. 01:39:46.720 --> 01:39:54.580 The purpose of the lift station is to convey waste under pressure from that location to the interceptor 01:39:54.580 --> 01:40:00.780 on the other side of the bridge on Walnut Road to the north side. The reason this is necessary is because 01:40:00.780 --> 01:40:08.520 we currently have industry in that area that utilize a very old part, a lateral that connects to the 01:40:08.520 --> 01:40:38.500 Interceptor that if ever failed, it would be very challenging to work on due to its depth of over 20 feet and its proximity to the landfill. Therefore, that is one aspect. The other aspect is there's additional development that needs to be done there. There's empty lots that need to be brought online. And when we add additional demand on the system, we will be challenged to convey that waste to the Interceptor. And lastly, as we build the Well 12 project, 01:40:38.520 --> 01:41:08.500 Project on Forest Road. Designs are including the Walnut Street lift station as a way to convey the waste from that area of Walnut and Lamb to the interceptor. So with that being said, we need to have a construction over supervision contract so that we can make sure that the lift station is built appropriately and correctly. So a ferrogram is designed and bid the sanitary sewer 01:41:08.500 --> 01:41:14.980 Relift Station, forced main piping and gravity piping improvements on the Land Road area sanitary sewer flow. 01:41:15.620 --> 01:41:28.060 The sewer system on Land Road District carries a significant flow to the city interceptor on the daily basis and a public bid was opened and was held on Tuesday, July 22nd at 1030 in the morning. 01:41:28.060 --> 01:41:38.220 I might also add that our largest water customer uses this section of lateral every day to dispose of the waste for the processing of food. 01:41:38.500 --> 01:41:47.860 This is very important because they go through a lot of water and their contribution to our utility is what helps keep our utility rates at a reasonable level. 01:41:48.660 --> 01:41:58.480 The Ferrogram scope service will provide professional full-time on-site construction engineering and observation as well as a contract management services for the city of Freeport. 01:41:58.480 --> 01:42:07.180 Ferrogram shall additionally provide GIS survey collection, staking layout for the sewer piping, roadway boring, and road improvements. 01:42:07.180 --> 01:42:21.760 Construction Observation will include materials, shop drawings, field construction engineering, required documentation, specification adherence, and the required QA, QC methods. 01:42:22.560 --> 01:42:33.740 Ferrogram will ensure the project is built in accordance with the city, state, and county standards, along with filling all required documentation in accordance with IEPA water pollution policies. 01:42:33.740 --> 01:43:02.820 Buy America, Build America certification, and material compliance will be tracked to infrastructure requirements, geotechnical testing services for aggregate density, and hot mix asphalt QAQC testing will be provided by Ferrogram through a third-party professional geotech agency as required. The city plans to fund the $224,250 construction engineering contract through the Lamb Road TIF. Staff recommends moving forward with the contract with Ferrogram. 01:43:02.820 --> 01:43:04.460 Sir, a motion to adopt 01:43:04.460 --> 01:43:05.500 So moved 01:43:05.500 --> 01:43:06.040 Second 01:43:06.040 --> 01:43:10.820 Motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers 01:43:10.820 --> 01:43:12.720 Discussion on the resolution 01:43:12.720 --> 01:43:14.140 Alderman Sellers 01:43:14.140 --> 01:43:16.260 Could you also explain 01:43:16.260 --> 01:43:22.920 What TIF, the money for TIF out there at the Lamb Road can only be used for 01:43:22.920 --> 01:43:24.220 Economic development 01:43:24.220 --> 01:43:32.700 Yes, the TIF money is for economic development and this is necessary infrastructure as we move forward with additional economic development 01:43:32.700 --> 01:43:33.800 One second. 01:43:34.120 --> 01:43:34.360 Sure. 01:43:34.920 --> 01:43:47.400 So you also, the TIF money cannot go to any of the citizens or anything. The money has to go to redevelopment of that area, correct? 01:43:47.900 --> 01:44:01.740 In line with TIF, the use of TIF funds that can be used for economic development incentives. It can be used for infrastructure improvements, but things that are related to the Land Road TIF 01:44:01.740 --> 01:44:04.320 in the form of economic development. 01:44:06.990 --> 01:44:07.570 Lawrence Sanders? 01:44:08.490 --> 01:44:22.850 Yeah, I've been studying this whole process, and as far as I am concerned, we don't have the historical fact of that development area. 01:44:22.850 --> 01:44:24.370 I'm talking about council. 01:44:24.730 --> 01:44:30.250 I'm directing this information and things like that to council since we're the ones that are voting 01:44:30.250 --> 01:45:00.230 to move forward on these matters, and I don't hear no one speaking out on the real issues that are being considered here and we have not evaluated, and I feel that we are being incompetent not looking into these matters because obviously that's the reason why I always want the clerk from 01:45:00.230 --> 01:45:30.230 from this point on to submit to council what we discussed previously and the fact that we're not hearing what they're talking about. We're just being passive at this point of not really getting down to the real point of the matter of whether or not we should be moving forward, whether or not we're not addressing the historical facts about that whole area, that whole development area and why it's 01:45:30.230 --> 01:45:41.430 there, and is it causing the city any complication that creates the taxpayers to have to fund these particular matters? 01:45:42.310 --> 01:45:47.350 We have not discussed how much material stuff that's going to be involved, how much it's going to cost. 01:45:47.350 --> 01:45:56.910 We have not talked about who's running the project. We know that we have engineers who's doing a survey of it, 01:45:56.910 --> 01:46:25.150 But my point is who's in charge of the project? And so we have not established our own understanding of what's going on out there because we have no clue to why these things are put in place or trying to implement these things and to put them in place. Is it necessary? Absolutely. If it's necessary, I can understand it. I understand what Bob Boyer was talking about. 01:46:25.150 --> 01:46:55.130 Now, future development, this thing has been in place for over 30, 40 years, there has not been a disruption, there has not been any complication, I don't even know if they're still doing monitoring, which I know that the city used to monitor those areas, and then not only that, go into those areas of the scepters and the sanitary and all these, they usually monitor these things and there should be reports. 01:46:55.150 --> 01:47:24.790 reports data on who's keeping this type of material before the people of the City of Freeport. I know these things are in place, but are we getting the right proper information at this current time to establish why we should put a lift station that's only going to serve probably one or two entities 01:47:25.150 --> 01:47:53.530 And then not only that, not to talk about the capacity of the flow that's supposed to be pushing through these forced mains or through these lift stations. We're not talking about that. Is it necessary? If we're not talking about that, then why are we setting up a lift station that we have no understanding of why we need this because of lack of capacity or lack of industries that have not utilized this area? 01:47:53.530 --> 01:48:12.390 So, to put a lift station in at this current time does not have us in a position where we should be voting for something to move forward on this until we have done an assessment, evaluation, to understand the whole historical point of it all. 01:48:12.390 --> 01:48:13.110 Thank you, Olsen. Your four minutes is up. 01:48:13.110 --> 01:48:14.150 Did I? Four minutes? 01:48:14.290 --> 01:48:15.530 Yep, your four minutes is up. 01:48:15.670 --> 01:48:15.870 Okay. 01:48:15.870 --> 01:48:56.380 Shadle. Yes, this is all coming about because when Snack King does their washout, this does run at virtual capacity. That's why we're here. No, that is not why we're here. And you stop lying. Stop lying. I would at this point, as the fact of the matter, I was been called a liar sitting on the floor. I would like to ask 01:48:56.380 --> 01:49:01.480 Mayor Boyer or Mr. Steakle to clarify my statement, please. 01:49:01.980 --> 01:49:22.620 I think what you're talking about, Greg, is the fact that we have a human-dependent process at Snack King, and if that human-dependent failed at any time, that would complicate things substantially there at the corner of Lamb and Walnut Road, right near an important facility, the county nursing home. 01:49:22.620 --> 01:49:39.980 So in addition to the benefits of having the proper capacity for our existing industry, having the availability for the buildout of future industry, and also the conveyance of wastewater backwash from the new well 12, and then the potential for buildout along 01:49:39.980 --> 01:49:44.140 and then the potential for build-out along Forest Road. I mean, these are all the reasons that this is an important project. 01:49:46.240 --> 01:49:46.780 Alderman Parker? 01:49:47.100 --> 01:49:47.840 Motion approved. 01:49:49.120 --> 01:49:49.960 We already have it. 01:49:52.760 --> 01:49:53.480 Alderman Stacy? 01:49:53.480 --> 01:50:01.260 Okay. 01:50:02.620 --> 01:50:04.760 I need some real numbers. 01:50:06.240 --> 01:50:08.280 Not a portion. 01:50:09.600 --> 01:50:12.680 Because, truth be told, the $234,000 01:50:12.680 --> 01:50:17.320 is engineering fees only. Am I correct? 01:50:17.920 --> 01:50:47.900 There is 11 other processes that have to be completed. And they're not little things. They're big things. So we can approve this 234,000. But to have this project completed in full with all these things that's not mentioned, that's not talked about to the public, the traffic studies, the permit fees, the utilities, 01:50:47.920 --> 01:51:19.470 and the utility locates, the restaking, all of it. What are we looking at cost-wise to have this done? Because up to this point, Snack King is still functioning. We haven't had no issues. There's no government nothing that we're violating. So do we need to 01:51:19.490 --> 01:51:52.990 Can we need this now? Can we afford this now? No, we cannot. Darren, did you want to address those questions? Certainly. So with every contract, there's always exclusions that are put on there for unforeseen. But realistically, this project should come in at this amount with our fees or even under. We have lots of projects where we get a fee here and we end up coming in under and not charging the whole amount. So we put those exclusions. 01:51:53.010 --> 01:52:23.010 We wrote a scope that we think will complete the entire project, but we always have to put in exclusions because I can't put those items in on everything without charging more, every contract without charging more money. We don't need a traffic study. We don't do restaking. We only stake one time and then the contractor's responsible for it the second time. So those are expenses that don't come back to the city, but we have to clarify that in a contract so we know where we stand and we know where the city's 01:52:23.010 --> 01:52:30.030 paying for it. Okay, so shouldn't we put on the side, not needed, do not apply? That's what an exclusion is. 01:52:30.470 --> 01:52:35.830 It's assume that it's not needed. Assuming it's not needed. Correct. Well, you have to make 01:52:35.830 --> 01:52:40.810 assumptions. We're working underground. So I can tell you right now, we don't need a traffic study. 01:52:40.930 --> 01:52:45.270 We already met with the county. The county owns the road. They're not asking for a traffic study. 01:52:45.390 --> 01:52:50.950 So that won't be one that's applied. Staking, restaking, we always exclude that because the 01:52:50.950 --> 01:53:20.690 City's not going to pay for it twice. We pay for it once, and then if it has to be restaked, it's on the contractor to pay for it the second time. So we put exclusions in there to protect the city, not to provide other costs. And I mean, you can ask anybody involved with the city. We typically never come back for additional costs. We try to write good scopes that include everything from the get-go. So I can tell you that the amount that we put here should 01:53:20.690 --> 01:53:50.670 complete the construction. The $234,000 should complete this whole project. Yes, it's already been designed and bid. This is the construction resident engineering services. This is the quality assurance, the construction part of getting the station built and getting all the piping in the ground for an active running station. And all this money is coming from the Land Road TIF. Okay, so let me remind you when the back and forth. So if you have several questions, you should ask them all at once. That is correct. 01:53:50.690 --> 01:54:00.050 And there's no debt on that TIF? Is there a debt on the Land Road TIF? Is there an existing debt? 01:54:01.170 --> 01:54:02.390 I can't answer that. 01:54:02.710 --> 01:54:10.290 I believe there's no debt. I know there's no debt. It's $2.3 million is what you're having to pay for it. 01:54:10.650 --> 01:54:15.890 So there's actually money in the bank. There's no debt service that I'm aware of on that. 01:54:15.890 --> 01:54:18.550 I actually think it's closer to $3 million. 01:54:18.550 --> 01:54:50.630 did you have I did please manager Boyer mentioned the future expansion this new well that we're putting out well 12 there's going to be sewer added water added out this is the opportunity 01:54:50.630 --> 01:54:58.170 that we've been looking for, for quite some time, to have shovel-ready land for development. 01:54:58.770 --> 01:55:08.650 One of the main reasons we haven't seen a new factory in this town is we don't have a place shovel-ready to put it. 01:55:10.930 --> 01:55:16.670 We can put the sewer pipes in, we can put the water pipes in, but if we don't have this lift station, 01:55:16.810 --> 01:55:22.070 there's not enough capacity in the existing to handle the future development. 01:55:22.290 --> 01:55:48.790 that's why we need this. Yes, that's called forward thinking. Alderman Sanders. Yeah, well, Alderman Shadle was making these these comments about something that has not had a survey to them, first of all, and he does not he does not have a what we call a prediction 01:55:48.790 --> 01:55:53.630 Pendant, Pendant, Pendant, or Crystal Ball. 01:55:54.070 --> 01:56:18.430 He don't have any of those things before him, and the city is not just going to have items sitting out in the field for God knows for how long waiting for a manufacturer to show up to make a development or whatever the case is that the council don't have no clue about any kind of manufacturing even being considered. 01:56:18.790 --> 01:56:33.570 And so my thing is we're dumping money into a ground and then we're going to wait while the taxpayers are suffering from all angles of this city, needing all kinds of grant program fundings and things of this nature. 01:56:33.570 --> 01:56:43.310 And we just got done listening to a part of our constituents here in the city complaining about other items that has not been looked at. 01:56:43.310 --> 01:57:12.550 looked at. So I think what we had not done was looked at the whole scope of the matter, whether or not we're using the money considered here to put on these projects for future, for future advancements. And I don't think that should be something that we should be doing at this time. If it's not an emergency need, if it's not anything that is going to help the city currently, 01:57:12.550 --> 01:57:40.150 right now kind of project, then there shouldn't be shovel readies to come in unless we have prospective prospects that are considering moving to this city, and then we would make those alterations or those changes as necessary and as needed. But before then, the funds should not go anywhere until these things are absolutely needed. That's my opinion on that, and I think that's how we should move forward. 01:57:40.150 --> 01:57:46.290 Darren did you want to add to yes so you're entitled to your opinion but I would like to give you some facts 01:57:46.290 --> 01:57:54.790 so this station wouldn't be in reserve it would be put into operation the day it was constructed because 01:57:54.790 --> 01:58:00.830 the waste from all of the lamb road tiff district would be going into that as soon as it was built 01:58:00.830 --> 01:58:07.550 because we have the need now the line the capacity of that line is at max capacity we've even had to go 01:58:07.550 --> 01:58:14.090 to Snack King and ask them to throttle down their flow so we can effectively serve that entire district. 01:58:15.090 --> 01:58:22.070 I would like to put another question out there. I've heard numerous times mentioned in the last two weeks, 01:58:22.070 --> 01:58:28.330 because we talked to this at the cow, this station is not built for mill race. Mill race will never be an 01:58:28.330 --> 01:58:35.410 opportunity. It was a once in a lifetime deal with the county money. The county's expended all of their 01:58:35.410 --> 01:59:05.290 There is no way the city of Freeport nor the county can effectively cost to run out to Mill Race. It would require two or three more lift stations to even get that far. So that project's never going to happen in our lifetimes unless somebody comes and gives us a massive gift of free money. This station is truly to service the Lamb Road District area and probably some development probably from Baileyville Road and then maybe on Forest Road. That is what this station will serve. 01:59:05.410 --> 01:59:33.970 The City of Freeport currently has nine lift stations in service that we service flow from all different areas of the town because of our elevations. This is adding another lift station to our capacity. We do and have talked for years since I've been around here about having shovel-ready sites that we currently don't have. If we don't want to have shovel-ready sites, we don't want any expansion, then we should just fold up because we're not going to get more business here. 01:59:33.970 --> 01:59:38.050 We don't have ground available for somebody to build that we can put. 01:59:38.050 --> 02:00:05.920 for somebody to build that we can put the waste into and if we don't have that ready no one's going to come here they're not going to wait for us to say hey we can construct this in a year and a half if you come that's not that's not the way shovel ready sites work and so those are just facts everybody's entitled to their own opinion but the facts are that the tiff money is for the mill race excuse me talking to me so the tiff money is 02:00:05.920 --> 02:00:32.140 for the Lamb Road District. They created this. This lift station is to service that area that they created the money from. And so that's why it's an eligible expense. If we were trying to put this in for a project at Mill Race or at the airport or something, the funds would be ineligible. We just created the station big enough to handle expansion in the future, which is just good planning. That is all it is. 02:00:32.140 --> 02:00:35.060 If there's no further discussion 02:00:35.060 --> 02:00:35.800 Yeah 02:00:35.800 --> 02:00:37.100 You've already spoken twice 02:00:37.100 --> 02:00:40.640 If there's no further discussion, Madam Clerk, please take the roll 02:00:40.640 --> 02:00:41.220 You don't have to cut me off so 02:00:41.220 --> 02:00:45.080 You didn't have to cut me off like that 02:00:45.080 --> 02:00:47.640 I don't agree with what you just did 02:00:47.640 --> 02:00:49.580 Madam Clerk, would you please take the roll 02:00:49.580 --> 02:00:50.620 Stacy 02:00:50.620 --> 02:00:51.400 No 02:00:51.400 --> 02:00:52.940 Shadle 02:00:52.940 --> 02:00:53.380 Aye 02:00:53.380 --> 02:00:54.500 Sanders 02:00:54.500 --> 02:00:54.980 No 02:00:54.980 --> 02:00:55.940 Sellers 02:00:55.940 --> 02:00:56.320 Aye 02:00:56.320 --> 02:00:57.220 Clem 02:00:57.220 --> 02:00:57.740 Aye 02:00:57.740 --> 02:00:58.860 Johnson 02:00:58.860 --> 02:00:59.400 Aye 02:00:59.400 --> 02:01:00.860 Simmons 02:01:00.860 --> 02:01:01.420 No 02:01:01.420 --> 02:01:33.540 Parker? Aye. The motion passes five to three. Item number 15 is the adoption of resolution 2025-88. Could you please read this? Resolution approving acceptance of a grant from the Illinois Department of Transportation Aviation Fuel Tax Program. Thank you. Manager Boyer? Thank you, Your Honor. The city's received the Aviation Fuel Tax Grant from the Illinois Department of Transportation for the past three years. The grant does not require a match and the grant does not require a match. 02:01:33.540 --> 02:02:03.520 Grant funds are to be used by local governments for airport-related purposes. In the case of the City of Freeport, we have utilized the funds as a reimbursement of expanded airport management expenses. There's a small table in the memo for your review. The City of Freeport has received a notice of grant award for the 2024 Aviation Fuel Tax Grant in the amount of $49,078.77. There is not a requirement. 02:02:03.540 --> 02:02:33.360 for the match, and once approved by the city council, the city will submit invoices and proof of payment of airport management expenses in order to receive the grant. Upon review and approval of the invoices submitted to IDOT, allocations will be distributed to the city of Freeport, and staff requests approval of the resolution moving forward with the fiscal year 2024 aviation fuel tax grant. Is there a motion to adopt? So moved. Second. A motion made by Alderman Parker, seconded by Alderman Shadle. Discussion on the 02:02:33.360 --> 02:03:02.540 resolution. Alderman Stacy. What is the match? You keep saying there's a match. What is the match? Zero. You said there is no match? That's correct. But when you were speaking and was reading, you said match. Gotcha. It is in the memo. It is written and I said it in the same way I read it from the memo. So there is no match. Was that being smart? 02:03:06.080 --> 02:03:50.390 Any further discussion? Madam Clerk, please take the roll. Stacy? I'm sorry, did I miss your vote? Shadle? Aye. Sanders? Aye. Sellers? Aye. Clem? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. And Parker? Aye. The resolution is adopted, 8-0. Item number 16 is the adoption of resolution 2025-90. Could you please read this? Resolution approving redevelopment agreement with Kendall and Grace at 712 West South Street. Thank you, Director Duckman. 02:03:50.710 --> 02:03:51.590 Thank you, Madam Mayor 02:03:51.590 --> 02:04:03.470 So what we have before you currently is a redevelopment agreement. The name of the company is Kendall and 02:04:03.470 --> 02:04:09.990 Grace, but this is Whit Plastics, right behind Aldi, to kind of give you a little background of where 02:04:09.990 --> 02:04:16.570 they're actually located. And their proposed project is a almost 5,000 square foot warehouse facility. 02:04:16.570 --> 02:04:23.950 there's also going to be some paving and they're proposing a project that would total $150,000. 02:04:24.770 --> 02:04:31.150 If we scroll down a little bit or I can see if I could do it this is a image of the proposed project 02:04:31.150 --> 02:04:40.970 that they have here. So staff has reviewed this proposed development and sees that it is eligible 02:04:40.970 --> 02:05:10.930 for TIF financing and it's in particular it's within the Meadows TIF district and what staff is proposing is in line with our other redevelopment agreements upon completion of this project staff would provide a $5,000 and reimburse the developer $5,000 and upon the lifetime of the TIF district which sunsets in 2037 they would be eligible 02:05:10.930 --> 02:05:19.210 for the TIF increment they produce. So once this structure is built, it's assumed and it's reasonable 02:05:19.210 --> 02:05:27.290 to assume that their taxes are going to increase and they would receive 75% of that increase in taxes 02:05:27.290 --> 02:05:35.370 over until 2037. There's a cap on how much money they can get and that would be $50,000 and this is 02:05:35.370 --> 02:05:42.550 typical for the lifetime of a redevelopment agreement. The reason you have these caps is some 02:05:42.550 --> 02:05:50.650 developments will drastically increase the taxes on a parcel and staff doesn't or a city does not want a 02:05:50.650 --> 02:05:58.530 developer to receive a windfall of an economic development incentive. So it's capped to say that 02:05:58.530 --> 02:06:04.350 they will never, you know, if the tax is increased astronomically from this development, they would be 02:06:04.350 --> 02:06:13.890 capped for a lifetime of $50,000. So this is a great opportunity for our community, a long-time 02:06:13.890 --> 02:06:19.950 developer, and staff is recommending approval of the resolution. Is there a motion to adopt? So moved. 02:06:19.950 --> 02:06:28.370 Second. I have a motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Parker. Discussion on the 02:06:28.370 --> 02:06:58.270 resolution? Yes. Holderman Johnson? I have about three questions here. Yeah. Where exactly on the property there, as you're showing it there, is that building going to be placed? Back in. Do you have more than one question you want? Yeah, I have three. Okay. Go ahead. And how do they get in and out of that building and will it be the driveway that's used to get in and out of all these or how will they enter and exit from that building? And the third one is what is the 02:06:58.270 --> 02:07:04.870 benefit to the city. Sure. By them having this building. Several. Okay. I'll try to answer them 02:07:04.870 --> 02:07:12.730 in sequence. The location's going to be, this is Aldi down here, the guardrail. You can see the guardrail 02:07:12.730 --> 02:07:17.250 there. That's your Aldi. And then there's the drive behind Aldi that's going to take you up here. 02:07:17.810 --> 02:07:24.050 And they own the, so you come in, you turn right, and then this would be your view right here. And then 02:07:24.050 --> 02:07:30.950 this parcel here is where they're going to be putting this facility, this 5,000 square foot storage facility. 02:07:31.570 --> 02:07:36.670 A couple different, and you're going to say, well, how are they going to get there? Well, they've agreed to 02:07:36.670 --> 02:07:42.830 pave this area in here, so they won't be dragging gravel in and out of our city streets. So they've 02:07:42.830 --> 02:07:47.650 already agreed to pave this area. So that's how they're going to be accessing it. And then obviously 02:07:47.650 --> 02:07:54.030 they'll be coming back out onto this road and then heading towards South Street. Benefits of the city, 02:07:54.050 --> 02:08:00.970 several economic development benefits here. I've talked with the owners. They're lovely, delightful 02:08:00.970 --> 02:08:07.130 people. They're building and expanding and they're running out of room. One of the biggest complaints 02:08:07.130 --> 02:08:13.810 as all their people, as a community development director you're going to receive is businesses 02:08:13.810 --> 02:08:20.710 leave and then they say, well, what did you do? Well, if you were presented a redevelopment agreement 02:08:20.710 --> 02:08:26.910 and you said absolutely not. The answer is you did nothing. This business has come to the city and said we 02:08:26.910 --> 02:08:33.570 need help. We need to expand our business. They potentially and if the city's not working with 02:08:33.570 --> 02:08:38.830 them if they go somewhere else somewhere else might say we got a better deal than the city leave this 02:08:38.830 --> 02:08:44.030 for the city to figure out what to do with come to our community. We've got a better deal. So this is 02:08:44.030 --> 02:08:51.510 the city working to keep its business in the city of Freeport. That's one. Number two, the business owners 02:08:51.510 --> 02:08:59.070 have told me that they're also looking to add a few employees to also help this. They're getting 02:08:59.070 --> 02:09:05.710 busy. They need more room. They need more space. It's going to also help potentially add jobs, 02:09:06.310 --> 02:09:13.910 not just directly with plastics, but also the company that's going to end up building this 02:09:13.910 --> 02:09:19.610 is going, you're going to have construction jobs back into the economy as well. So that's something to keep in 02:09:19.610 --> 02:09:25.290 mind anytime a redevelopment agreement comes up, when your constituents say to you, why are businesses 02:09:25.290 --> 02:09:32.170 leaving? What are you doing? And the answer is, well, you have a choice to vote to help people expand and 02:09:32.170 --> 02:09:35.330 keep their business in the community. So that's my answer to that question. 02:09:35.330 --> 02:09:35.340 That's my answer to that question. 02:09:36.780 --> 02:09:37.540 Alderman Sellers. 02:09:38.020 --> 02:09:41.980 I would just like to know, I know that you said they're going to be coming in and out of south. 02:09:42.420 --> 02:09:45.540 Already right there by Aldi's is a lot of congestion. 02:09:45.940 --> 02:09:46.140 Yes. 02:09:46.200 --> 02:09:47.460 You know, just getting in and out. 02:09:47.460 --> 02:09:50.160 How are they going to make that, you know, easier? 02:09:50.160 --> 02:09:56.400 Because I've seen even some people driving, trying to come out of Aldi's because it's such a tight turn. 02:09:56.600 --> 02:09:59.480 They have went over the cliff a couple of times. 02:09:59.480 --> 02:10:29.460 so how can we make that wide enough where it won't be well sorry go ahead oh no it won't be so much congestion there with this business coming in and out of there also well I we can't change the congestion we know that Aldi is a very successful business they're going to have many people coming in and out so this development is not going to you know this is not going to be able to change the traffic the only thing that it can do is add some paving to the area and it could help them add 02:10:29.460 --> 02:10:36.060 had more storage for their facility. They've stated that they want to stay here. They want to stay in 02:10:36.060 --> 02:10:41.560 Freeport. They want to expand at their location. And they're looking for the city to partner with them. 02:10:42.500 --> 02:10:47.580 But I'm not going to sit here and tell you that this is going to aid in the, you know, the traffic 02:10:47.580 --> 02:10:52.920 issues we have at Aldi. It's, you know, this, this development is not going to be able to do that. 02:10:54.360 --> 02:10:55.600 Alderman Sanders, did you have? 02:10:55.600 --> 02:11:21.140 Yeah, first of all, I don't like the fact that when you are addressing counsel that someone is expressing their sentiments about how we are proceeding on any measures and talking about on anything because I can hear it by the conversation that you had with her, she had a complaint. 02:11:21.140 --> 02:11:44.980 It was subtle, but it was a complaint on top of it. Now, working with the city is one thing. We can talk about the possibilities and whether or not the city wants to look into these matters, but we don't even know what type of business. We don't even know what the purpose of it is all about. 02:11:44.980 --> 02:12:05.080 We don't have no objection for anyone trying to bring in a business, but to make it a business that sounds like it's putting us under pressure to make something happen, because that's your sentiment that I feel that you're presenting to us right now at this time. 02:12:05.080 --> 02:12:34.480 It's their conversation with you, and you're expressing it here at the council, and I reject all of that, but I like to just be able to talk to a person so we can come to a conclusion or resolution where we can move further down the road, but I don't like the expression that you're presenting to council when anyone is talking to you about what we should be doing, that kind of thing. 02:12:34.480 --> 02:13:03.880 No, no, no, no, I'm still talking. And the fact that we are not listening or we have not acted on something that we don't have privy to yet. And my point is, is that a private property? I wanted to ask that question. Is that private property? Why is the city looking into complying with someone that has that type of view? And I just wanted to make sure that 02:13:04.480 --> 02:13:31.760 I see it very clearly in my own head that this is what this particular business owner wants to be able to do without any agitation, without any over-expressing, or any of those kinds of things, because the council has an antenna, and when that kind of rhetoric starts filtering in through the council, our antennas goes up, 02:13:31.760 --> 02:13:47.780 And so, and not, and we're saying that if any business is consulting with you in that manner, then you should not present it here to council. That's all I'm saying. I'm not, I'm not against it. It's just the fact that I just didn't like the way that it was presented. 02:13:49.400 --> 02:13:53.360 Any other discussion? Alderman Stacy? 02:13:53.360 --> 02:14:15.540 So, you know, Culver's, the biggest fast food place here in Freeport, they took advantage of this money through a TIF. Now, here we come again with a different TIF. 02:14:15.540 --> 02:14:38.000 So, is anybody that wants to advance their establishment going to be able to use TIF money and get a yearly salary or a yearly whatever to do what they want to do for their business with our tax dollars? 02:14:38.500 --> 02:14:40.800 The answer is yes. Please. 02:14:40.800 --> 02:15:12.440 but wait clarify this is not about tax dollars this is this is tax yes this is the tip this is tax increment financing I can go back and answer it anybody looking if you have a business within the geographic area of a TIF district you are eligible for TIF financing when you're expanding your business and you're saying every year you're going to get dollars that's what you're referencing well when you go above if you create and you build an expansion 02:15:12.460 --> 02:15:19.180 and your business, your property taxes are going to increase. Correct? But you're going to get it right 02:15:19.180 --> 02:15:24.620 back anyway. That's correct. That's why we're having this redevelopment agreement is to provide incentives 02:15:24.620 --> 02:15:30.660 for businesses to expand. Businesses are wanting, we're trying to, that's economic development, 02:15:30.760 --> 02:15:37.900 we're trying to retain businesses. We created TIF districts for two reasons, to allow business, 02:15:37.900 --> 02:15:43.380 to keep businesses, to allow them to expand, and the second reason is to attract new businesses. 02:15:43.380 --> 02:15:59.400 So if I had a business downtown and I wanted to advance my business and add to it and make it bigger and fix the inside and this and that, I would have access to downtown TIF money. 02:15:59.720 --> 02:16:07.180 You would want to come in and visit the city staff and make sure what you're doing is in eligible expenses. 02:16:07.180 --> 02:16:16.210 but potentially yes. So again, it has to do with your property tax assessment. If you're saying I would 02:16:16.210 --> 02:16:23.610 like to paint the inside of my building, my answer to you would be you're not doing an improvement that's 02:16:23.610 --> 02:16:30.610 going to increase the tax assessment so you wouldn't be eligible for any dollars. So you have to 02:16:30.610 --> 02:16:36.070 essentially improve your business so that your taxes, your property taxes are going to increase 02:16:36.070 --> 02:16:40.250 because you're paid on the increment of those taxes going up. 02:16:40.950 --> 02:16:41.550 Okay. 02:16:41.770 --> 02:16:46.270 So this business is investing $150,000 to build, expand their business. 02:16:46.690 --> 02:16:50.870 Their taxes are going to go up and they're going to be eligible for that repayment. 02:16:51.910 --> 02:16:52.650 Alderman Sellers. 02:16:53.990 --> 02:17:04.610 Just to understand, the tax money comes from the taxing body of the group, like the Lamb Road. 02:17:04.610 --> 02:17:26.730 it comes from the money of all the industries out there like downtown it comes from the taxing of the the stores and stuff downtown and usually downtown you would only be able to do like a facade like the outside yes can't do the inside and make it bigger and all that it's just the outside so you can't get the taxing dollars 02:17:26.730 --> 02:17:35.170 and it doesn't come from the citizens, it comes from the taxing of the people that are in that TIF district. 02:17:35.170 --> 02:17:56.610 Right, so you have a geographic area, this is the Meadows TIF district, there's a map and essentially when this would have, the TIF district was created, they did a study, you hire a professional organization to do a TIF study and when they do it, they look at it and they say yes, this is eligible, there's blighted properties, there's properties that are 02:17:56.610 --> 02:18:04.030 Lacking Development and so what happens is at that time there's a TIF base value for the tax assessment 02:18:04.030 --> 02:18:13.870 and so any time that the property taxes go above that TIF base it goes back and stays within the TIF district 02:18:13.870 --> 02:18:19.890 that money stays to the city within a TIF district and it has guidelines on how the money can be spent 02:18:19.890 --> 02:18:26.150 it could be spent for business expansion it could be spent for business retention professional services 02:18:26.150 --> 02:18:29.370 things of that nature. 02:18:29.670 --> 02:18:30.250 Alderman Shadle. 02:18:31.750 --> 02:18:41.970 Yeah, the essence of this is they're getting back 75% of an increase in their taxes. 02:18:43.030 --> 02:18:53.070 So if this hypothetically, this building generates a tax bill of $2,000, their taxes would be $500. 02:18:53.070 --> 02:19:02.290 dollars. There's still going to be taxes collected. They're going to get a return from their property taxes of 02:19:02.290 --> 02:19:14.470 $1,500 out of the hypothetical $2,000. We're not laying out money to them. We're just diverting taxes back 02:19:14.470 --> 02:19:20.410 so that they have an incentive to make this investment, an investment that's always going to 02:19:20.410 --> 02:19:33.990 be there. When the 75% sun sets out, we get all that tax money then. And it's on the increase. Or I shouldn't say we, the taxing bodies. It's on the increase. Alderman State. 02:19:33.990 --> 02:20:18.270 increase. Alderman Stacy. So are you telling me that this business paid into the Meadows TIF? Yes. Their property taxes are paying into the Meadows TIF, yes. There's no further discussion. Madam Clerk, please take the roll. Stacy? I'm sorry, was that abstain? Shadle? Aye. Sanders? Aye. Sellers? Aye. Clem? Aye. 02:20:18.290 --> 02:20:47.350 Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. And Parker? Aye. The resolution is adopted 7-0 with 1 absentia. Item number 17 is adoption of resolution 2025-91. Could you please read this? Resolution approving the purchase of polytretrafluoroethylene or PTFE membrane discs for wastewater facility aeration basins from Dryden Equipment. Thank you. Manager Boyer? Thank you, Your Honor. 02:20:48.290 --> 02:21:15.750 I don't know how familiar everybody is with wastewater treatment, but this is one step in the wastewater treatment process. It's called aeration. There are mechanicals in the bottom of the aeration tank that send bubbles of air through the effluent as it goes through the treatment process. Every seven to ten years, these need to be replaced, and we are at that time where we need to replace them. 02:21:15.750 --> 02:21:43.990 They are specific to the equipment that's in the aeration basin and the city's received an estimate from SSI aeration for $20,048. I'm sorry, from Dryden Equipment. The project was budgeted in the wastewater budget for 2025 and staff recommends moving forward with the membrane purchase. 02:21:43.990 --> 02:21:45.750 Is there a motion to adopt? 02:21:46.370 --> 02:21:46.910 So moved. 02:21:48.590 --> 02:21:52.530 We have a motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Johnson. 02:21:52.750 --> 02:21:53.850 Discussion on the resolution? 02:21:54.930 --> 02:21:55.170 Darren? 02:21:55.510 --> 02:22:06.530 Yeah, I just wanted to comment that we had $60,000 in the budget for this year, and so we got a good price on doing the total amount that we needed. 02:22:07.730 --> 02:22:08.590 Alderman Sanders? 02:22:08.590 --> 02:22:11.150 Yeah, I know this is very necessary. 02:22:11.150 --> 02:22:39.750 It is something that we should let, you know, have no problem with. And if it's an annual thing, or is it not, I think it is an annual thing that we go through. It's not an annual thing. What is it? Every five years or something? Seven to ten years. Okay. But I know it's necessary. I don't know what the cost is. Do we have a cost factor for all of that? Do we have a... 02:22:39.750 --> 02:22:47.710 Yes, $20,000. Okay. Okay. Well, anyway, I know it's necessary, so I just wanted to see where we were at with that. 02:22:48.550 --> 02:22:55.990 Hold on, Stacy. So, if it's going to cost $20,000, but, Darren, you said we have 16. 02:22:59.350 --> 02:23:09.610 60. Six-zero. Okay. That's what was budgeted for this year. And this is just materials only. Our crews actually do the replacement themselves. 02:23:09.610 --> 02:23:19.680 But all of it to complete this project has been budgeted for. Yes, ma'am. If there's no further discussion, Madam Clerk, please take the roll. 02:23:20.240 --> 02:23:35.040 Stacy? Aye. Schadle? Aye. Sanders? Aye. Sellers is currently absent. Clem? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. And Parker? Aye. The resolution is adopted 7-0. 02:23:35.920 --> 02:23:40.680 Item number 18 is the adoption of resolution 2025-92. Could you please read this? 02:23:40.920 --> 02:23:47.240 Resolution authorizing payment of an invoice from TNT Iron and Metal for Electronic Recycling Services. 02:23:47.660 --> 02:23:48.300 Director Bridge. 02:23:49.740 --> 02:23:50.580 Thank you, Your Honor. 02:23:51.620 --> 02:23:53.040 I thought you were doing Director Bridge. 02:23:53.280 --> 02:23:53.680 That's okay. 02:23:53.800 --> 02:23:54.120 That's okay. 02:23:54.120 --> 02:23:54.580 Sorry about that. 02:23:55.300 --> 02:24:00.060 So that we don't have to ask these questions, my name is Bryan. 02:24:00.140 --> 02:24:01.500 I'm the Communications Director. 02:24:01.500 --> 02:24:31.500 I was one of the three to four people here in city hall that was in charge of getting an electronic recycling event together not only that but I'm also tasked with kind of getting out to the public not only stuff for electronic recycling but also refresh Freeport which is our monthly dumping event that we do the city of Freeport conducted an electronic recycling 02:24:31.500 --> 02:24:37.540 event where residents could bring electronic devices such as televisions and computer monitors to be 02:24:37.540 --> 02:24:44.340 disposed of. The city utilized the services of TNT Iron and Metal to dispose of the electronic devices. 02:24:45.520 --> 02:24:49.820 This event was planned in coordination with other dumping events such as Refresh Freeport. 02:24:50.700 --> 02:24:56.580 Guild's Freeport Disposal recommended TNT Iron and Metal to be the main collector of electronic materials. 02:24:56.580 --> 02:25:24.940 At the event, they collected 1,096 screens and 3.2 total tons of electronic waste. Roughly 400 residents took advantage of this service and the city received positive feedback from residents and surrounding communities. The full amount of the invoice has been budgeted for and will be paid from the Health and Environment Fund, which the cost of this specific invoice is just over $27,000. 02:25:24.940 --> 02:25:50.900 and the budget is in the $300,000 range. Thank you. Is there a motion to adopt? So moved. Second. We have a motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Clemm. Discussion on the resolution? Alderman Sanders. Where is the dumping ground? Is that with this material? 02:25:50.900 --> 02:26:07.180 So the event was held at the fairgrounds on July 19th, and the dumping grounds, I do not know the specific area, the company, TNT Iron and Metals, took the stuff away from Freeport 02:26:07.180 --> 02:26:16.040 So is this, are they currently still established as this one time event, or how does that work? 02:26:16.040 --> 02:26:21.740 That's a good question. We are currently working towards a more regular event of this sort. 02:26:22.120 --> 02:26:31.900 Yeah, and I know that there should have been a notification that went out to the general public about this. We broadcast this and everything. 02:26:32.140 --> 02:26:33.520 Yeah, plenty of people showed up. 02:26:33.520 --> 02:26:51.080 Did they? Okay. And I'd like to see who's doing the collecting of anything. Is there residuals that comes from this? 02:26:51.880 --> 02:26:53.040 You're talking about money? 02:26:53.040 --> 02:27:06.220 Yeah, because there's a lot of gold. There's a lot of gold and a lot of other material that can be broken down and be converted into monetary value. 02:27:06.220 --> 02:27:09.220 The city of Freeport is not... 02:27:09.220 --> 02:27:12.160 We're not just giving the factory away, are we? 02:27:12.620 --> 02:27:15.040 This is scrap metal that they're giving away. 02:27:15.600 --> 02:27:22.900 Yeah, that's what I thought. But we're not looking at the real intricate parts of that electronics. 02:27:23.040 --> 02:27:53.020 equipment because there's value in there where the city could be recouping from or gaining something from it. I don't care if it went to a charity or back to the TIF or TIF or whatever the case is. We're not doing a complete assessment of how this program should be brought up because we're saying we're going to give you all our electronics that got gold and a little 02:27:53.020 --> 02:28:21.480 Aluminum, whatever copper, whatever the case may be. We're going to give all that to you. We're just going to just let you dispose of it and we don't have any recoup or residuals from all of that because it belongs to the citizens of Freeport. I don't care who picks it up, who gets it or whatever the case is. That is a fortune that is being sent out of here. 02:28:21.480 --> 02:28:51.460 You know, that's all I'm just saying. Are we in a position to recoup anything? So the residents of Freeport took their own stuff to the event. I don't care. In all respect, that's the way the event was organized, and so we have full confidence that the residents of Freeport understand what they're giving up. Okay. All right. If there's no further discussion, Madam Clerk, please take the roll. Stacy? Aye. Shadle? Aye. Sanders? Aye. 02:28:51.480 --> 02:29:21.460 Aye. Sellers? Aye. Plum? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. And Parker? Aye. And if I may, before I move on, tire recycling event this Saturday, same deal, tires, if you need more information, website, Facebook, email. Thank you. And at the fairgrounds. Oh, at the fairgrounds, yes. And do you have a time? 8 o'clock? 8 a.m. 2 p.m. Thank you. Item number 19 is adoption of resolution. 02:29:21.480 --> 02:29:32.100 Resolution 2025-93. Could you please read this? Resolution approving transportation services agreement with Pretzel City Transit to sell punch cards at the library. Thank you, Director Huffine. Thank you. 02:29:32.100 --> 02:29:59.980 Thank you. Director Huffine. Thank you. The library is always seeking collaborations and partners to help improve our services and resources for our community. Pretzel City Transit is heavily used by library users. We are seeking to make access to ride vouchers and punch cards more accessible by becoming a location for people to purchase ride vouchers and punch cards for Pretzel City Transit. Although the Freeport Public Library is a department of the city of Freeport, we are a separate taxing district. 02:30:00.000 --> 02:30:29.980 District. It is important to demonstrate the library's commitment to selling these vouchers to IDOT so we are entering into a formal agreement. The City of Freeport's responsibilities under this agreement are to provide reliable on-time transportation to the Freeport Public Library users in a timely manner and to supply the Freeport Public Library with vouchers and punch cards for sale at the library. The Freeport Public Library's responsibilities under this agreement are to 02:30:29.980 --> 02:30:59.960 to maintain an inventory of vouchers and punch cards, to notate the vouchers to indicate they were purchased at the library, to maintain accurate inventory on hand and sold vouchers and punch cards and provide inventory reports to the city upon request. The library will compensate the city monthly for all vouchers and punch cards sold. There is no impact on the city or library finances. The city staff recommend approving the agreement with the Freeport Public Library. 02:30:59.980 --> 02:31:29.480 and the strategic plan that supports strong public and private partnerships. Thank you. Is there a motion to adopt? So moved. Second. Motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers. Discussion on the resolution? Seeing none, Madam Clerk, please take the roll. Stacy? Aye. Shadle? Aye. Sanders? Aye. Sellers? Aye. Clem? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. And Parker? Aye. That resolution is adopted eight to zero. 02:31:29.480 --> 02:31:59.480 item number 20 is adoption of resolution 2025 94 could you please read this resolution approving purchase of two refurbished power load systems from Roland energy refurbished equipment and clock emergency vehicles for the fire department chief Miller thank you your honor before you this evening is the request to approve the purchase of power load systems for ambulances three and four ambulances three and four are in need of power load systems which securely fastens 02:31:59.480 --> 02:32:29.480 the stretcher into the back of the ambulance. When the vehicles were purchased in 2015 and 2016, the floors of the vehicles were built to accept this system, but the cost of the system was too excessive. It was not added when the vehicles were ordered. So the power load system consists of an arm that extends out of the back of the ambulance and loads the stretcher into the ambulance, avoiding any manual lifting. More importantly, it also safely secures the stretcher to the floor of the 02:32:29.480 --> 02:32:36.080 the ambulance ensuring crash and rollover protection for a patient that may be on the back of that stretcher. 02:32:37.280 --> 02:32:40.120 Our two newer ambulances are equipped with this feature. 02:32:40.560 --> 02:32:51.500 So that being said, it's important that the ambulances have the same similar equipment to avoid any confusion or operational errors during emergencies. 02:32:51.700 --> 02:32:55.420 We want each vehicle to be outfitted exactly the same. 02:32:55.420 --> 02:33:03.360 all the equipment is located in the same cabinets in the back of the ambulance. So the initial plan or budget 02:33:03.360 --> 02:33:11.840 provided funds to purchase one new power load system. The key is new. One new power load system for this year 02:33:11.840 --> 02:33:20.420 for Ambulance 3 and then would rebudget another one for Ambulance 4 next year. So my guys did some 02:33:20.420 --> 02:33:46.120 research on this, and as we were obtaining pricing, we discovered that we could purchase two refurbished units for less than the cost of one brand new unit. So the refurbished ones also come with a one-year warranty, so do the new ones. So it makes perfect sense to save money to buy some refurbished ones that operate just as well as the newer ones do. 02:33:46.120 --> 02:34:16.100 So the financial component of this is the Fire Capital Improvement Fund will cover the cost of the power load system and the installation. The total cost for two refurbished power load systems installed $34,217.96. So comparatively the cost for one new power load system is $35,857. So we're already about $1,600 less. 02:34:16.120 --> 02:34:22.680 expensive for twice the equipment. So no dollars from the general fund will be used for this purchase. 02:34:23.340 --> 02:34:29.520 So the fire department is requesting approval of the resolution to purchase two refurbished power load 02:34:29.520 --> 02:34:35.400 systems for the bank of ambulance three and four. Is there a motion to adopt? So move. 02:34:37.400 --> 02:34:44.880 Oh, so move. Parker? We have a motion made by Alderman Parker, seconded by Alderman Sellers. 02:34:46.120 --> 02:35:18.360 discussion on the resolution? All in Parker? This is almost mandatory. It's a major safety issue for our firemen, and that $34,000, if one of our officers break his back trying to do it, it's going to cost us more than that to take care of it, so this is a great issue, and I'm very much impressed. There's no further discussion? Madam Clerk? Yes, all in Sellers? I just want to know, how long will it take for these refurbished systems? How long will it take 02:35:18.360 --> 02:35:50.340 to get all this, or are they already ready? So they have them in stock already. We've already looked into and confirmed that installation is available locally from the ambulance provider we purchased our two new ones from. So this is ready to go as soon as we have your approval. Alderman Sanders? Yeah, these are not new items, am I correct? When you say when it's refurbished, that means that we're purchasing used items at one 02:35:50.340 --> 02:36:20.320 point in time. And I'm just curious. We couldn't budget new platform power load systems. I'm just curious why we're venturing into a refurbished type unit and whether or not it would be feasible one way or the other. Can we guarantee? Because if there's anything that's been refurbished that had been that was an issue the very first time when it was brand new. So I'm just curious. 02:36:20.340 --> 02:36:48.560 I would like to know if you can bring some little clarity to me on that part. Sure, I understand your concerns, and I had the same myself initially, but looking into it, these are as good as factory replacements, so they've gone back to factory, they've been completely reworked, rebuilt, repainted, and to make us feel more comfortable, they offer a one-year warranty, and even the brand new ones have a one-year warranty. 02:36:48.560 --> 02:36:53.040 So this is being fiscally responsible, getting two for less than the price of one 02:36:53.040 --> 02:36:54.860 Okay, all right, that's all 02:36:54.860 --> 02:36:58.300 There's no further discussion, Madam Clerk, please take the roll 02:36:58.300 --> 02:37:08.500 Stacey, aye, Shadle, aye, Sanders, aye, Sellers, aye, Clemm, aye, Johnson, aye, Simmons, aye, Parker, aye 02:37:08.500 --> 02:37:11.080 The resolution is adopted, 8-0 02:37:11.080 --> 02:37:16.680 Item number 21, adoption of resolution 20-25-95, could you please read this 02:37:16.680 --> 02:37:28.080 Resolution approving purchase of Ferris ISX 2200 mower with Kawasaki Motor and 60-inch mower deck from Peabody's North, Pecatonica, Illinois, for the Fire Department 02:37:28.080 --> 02:37:28.860 Chief Miller 02:37:28.860 --> 02:37:30.000 Thank you, Your Honor 02:37:30.000 --> 02:37:38.940 Again, before you this evening is the request to approve the purchase of a commercial lawnmower for the Fire Department 02:37:38.940 --> 02:37:44.780 So the Central Fire Station has nearly two and a half acres of land that we maintain ourselves 02:37:44.780 --> 02:37:54.180 Each Friday the lawn is cut by our members that are on duty and only interrupted by emergency calls. 02:37:55.000 --> 02:38:03.800 So in 2018 the fire department acquired the lawn, which you see up on the screen, from the Illinois Department of Natural Resources, IDNR. 02:38:03.800 --> 02:38:30.680 What they had at the time was an excessive property program that offered used or government equipment to municipalities that requested consideration. They applied for this. So we did receive that lawnmower and is now 15 years old and is experiencing several system failures. So the hydraulic system is what's used to steer each of the rear wheels. 02:38:30.680 --> 02:38:37.280 That's why you'll see, it looks like handlebars by the seat, one steers the left rear wheel, the other one steers the right rear wheel 02:38:37.280 --> 02:38:48.080 So, there is, it's hydraulically driven, and the left steering mechanism, left wheel is starting to fail 02:38:48.080 --> 02:38:55.240 So as you're going in a straight line, your hands are dissimilar, you're not like this, your arms are like this 02:38:55.240 --> 02:39:21.160 so that's a hazard to the person who's operating that lawnmower. Also, the frame and the mower deck have been repaired and welded numerous times in the past. So again, I'd like to remind council that this mower does not belong to the city. It was obtained from the IDNR and it will need to be returned once we do acquire a replacement. 02:39:21.160 --> 02:39:29.780 So the discussion on this, the moor is 15 years old and struggles to complete weekly mowing tasks. We have been fortunate. 02:39:29.780 --> 02:39:35.750 We have been fortunate that it has serviced our needs for the past seven years at no cost other than maintenance and repairs. 02:39:36.430 --> 02:39:44.830 So we looked into this, and yes, the mower does have to be returned to the IDNR, but that program no longer exists. 02:39:45.070 --> 02:39:49.870 So we went to them trying to get a second free lawnmower, and they said, no, we don't do that anymore. 02:39:50.950 --> 02:39:54.610 So we have to return that to their excess property program. 02:39:54.610 --> 02:40:24.610 and then so the finances of it this acquisition seven seven different more manufacturers were looked into and staff has determined that the Ferris 2200 model the Kawasaki motor best suits our needs and will will accommodate us well into the future so the cost of this commercial lawnmower is twelve thousand three hundred forty eight dollars so they're 02:40:24.610 --> 02:40:52.450 There is money in this year's budget for this purchase, and it also will be funded by the Fire Department Capital Improvement Fund using no dollars from the general fund for this purchase. Also, I'd just like to add that this is the same brand of moor that they use in city yards for city properties. They stock various belts and filters and have experience working on this model. 02:40:52.450 --> 02:41:26.290 so we did compare this to John Deere and this was the least expensive moor as well so that's why we chose this one and we're proposing it to you this evening for approval. Is there a motion to adopt? So moved. Motion made by Alderman Clemm, seconded by Alderman Shadle. Discussion? Alderman Sanders. Chief, for the moor we're considering the one that 02:41:26.290 --> 02:41:52.270 that you put on the agenda here, would this only be utilized for fire department areas and not being loaned out to other departments for their program or property or whatever the case is? Are we just going to designate this directly to the fire department usage? 02:41:52.690 --> 02:41:54.310 That would be my intent, yes. 02:41:54.310 --> 02:42:08.750 Okay. All right. Hold on, Stacy. I was just wondering, why can't Public Works go mow the lawn? 02:42:10.820 --> 02:42:25.940 So, that is a question that I had considered and discussed it with Manager Boyer, and we realized that the folks that do the cutting, the lawn cutting for the city, two of them are part-time summer employees, 02:42:25.940 --> 02:42:54.800 and the other ones are mostly used and resurfacing streets and doing sewer work and so they all have their other priority tasks to do. I've got my staff that are there if they're not out running emergency calls they can be perched on that lawnmower and they'll take care of it. It would be nice though to have our firemen area taken care of and I hope you get it and I hope it lasts 15 years plus. Thank you. 02:42:54.800 --> 02:42:58.560 There's no further discussion, Madam Clerk, please take the roll 02:42:58.560 --> 02:43:08.640 Stacy, Aye, Shadle, Aye, Sanders, Aye, Sellers, Aye, Clemm, Aye, Johnson, Aye, Simmons, Aye, and Parker, Aye 02:43:08.640 --> 02:43:11.080 The resolution is adopted, 8-0 02:43:11.080 --> 02:43:17.080 Item number 22 is adoption of resolution 2025 of 96, could you please read this 02:43:17.080 --> 02:43:24.440 Resolution approving to accept the conveyance of the property commonly known as 17 West Stevenson Street 02:43:24.440 --> 02:43:54.420 from Marianne Garvin's. Manager Boyer. Thank you, Your Honor. Kurt, if there's any way you could do a Google map of the area, I'd appreciate that. Marianne Garvin's has offered to convey 17 Stevenson Street to the city of Freeport for $1. We have an adjacent city-owned parcel that's right next door, used to be the Wave Salon Abed Books location. This property will qualify the site for significant outside grant funding for a new 02:43:54.420 --> 02:44:24.400 New Downtown Pocket Park. The acquisition will complete site control, enabling the city to pursue park and placement grants. Also recently, Greater Freeport Partnership secured a large T-Mobile grant, I believe it was $50,000. So Ms. Garvin's request that the park be named after the historic building once located on the site and its small, a small raised flower garden be included in the design for her use. Staff recommends honoring these and all other minor requests consistent with 02:44:24.400 --> 02:44:30.400 City Policy. Upon approval, staff will proceed with the acquisition, update the plan to reflect these 02:44:30.400 --> 02:44:37.400 features, and apply for the Oslide Grant, which is the one I am referring to. So staff requests approval of 02:44:37.400 --> 02:44:45.320 the acquisition of 17 Stevenson Street for $1. Is there a motion to adopt? So moved. The motion made by 02:44:45.320 --> 02:44:52.180 Alderman Sellers, seconded by Alderman Parker. Discussion on the resolution? I do have one more. Sure. And I do 02:44:52.180 --> 02:44:58.140 I just want to thank the GFP for their effort leading that transfer. Thank you. 02:45:01.300 --> 02:45:02.140 There's no discussion? 02:45:02.440 --> 02:45:03.580 I would like to just say. 02:45:03.820 --> 02:45:05.420 Okay. Alderman Stacy? 02:45:06.620 --> 02:45:30.250 I just want to say that this lady is a giver. We all make mistakes. We all lose our cool. But to give this property for a dollar speaks volumes. 02:45:30.250 --> 02:45:45.530 And so, I hope that that be acknowledged and recognized in more ways than one. And I want to be the first one to say thank you. 02:45:47.050 --> 02:45:48.010 Alderman Sanders? 02:45:48.010 --> 02:46:21.700 Yeah, I have an awareness factor forming in my frontal lobe, I should say, I see you, Parker, but I have a question in regards to the fact that it was given for a dollar, but what's the initial reason why it was given? 02:46:21.720 --> 02:46:51.700 and in the generosity that that the city is supposed to look at this as a as a generous kind of thing but we have not looked at the cultural yes I'm talking right now we have not looked at the cultural background of what I'm reading here in the memo of the people that are 02:46:51.720 --> 02:47:18.120 that are running this, and we're not looking at the full scope of why we're inventoring taxpayers' dollars until we do an investigative prowl of what's going on, and I'm looking at this memo, and I'm looking at the wordings, and I'm hoping the interpretation is not what I'm thinking it is, 02:47:18.120 --> 02:47:44.400 I'm not going to say anything about this, but from my position, if we're not aware of certain things, we should not vote on things until we have a complete clarity of the background nature, listen to what I just said, the background nature and cultural aspect of this, even to give it as a generosity, what will the city get in return? 02:47:44.400 --> 02:47:58.080 because remember, the city cannot put itself in a position where it becomes a label to something that is not conducive to the city at large. 02:47:58.080 --> 02:48:12.460 You might say, well, he's talking and coding. Yeah, well, there is coding in there, and that's the reason why I'm bringing this awareness point up is that we should be looking into these kinds of things 02:48:12.460 --> 02:48:20.580 and see it before we decide to do anything with any property for any reason. And I just wanted to make 02:48:20.580 --> 02:48:30.360 sure that that council is very astute to what is being talked about here today on this matter, on this 02:48:30.360 --> 02:48:38.300 particular matter. All right, Parker. Greater Freeport Partnership, this lot, there's three sections in 02:48:38.300 --> 02:48:54.160 They just had a grand opening and got a big grant to fix the weather to make it a park. This is just adding 30 feet to it. So it's a great thing that she did for us, and I'm sure it'll help Greater Freeport Partnership, and it'll make the area real nice. 02:48:54.160 --> 02:49:05.880 I'll put it like this here. Would you like your second? I'll put it like this here. Obviously, you weren't listening to me. No, that's my point. You weren't listening to me. 02:49:05.880 --> 02:49:27.920 so you didn't hear all the subscripts or the subject matter that underscores the things that I was talking about that comes out of this discussion memo that I'm looking at and if we have not looked at this memo clear enough to understand the interpretation of certain things. 02:49:27.920 --> 02:49:54.680 the interpretation of certain things, whether it's given to us or not. But what I am saying is we don't want to venture into something or be labeled something that is supporting something that is put in this memo. That's my whole point. And if we have not done a background study of the things that have been put in this memo and don't know who the characters are, we don't understand the process and the culture of this character and the background of this character, 02:49:54.680 --> 02:50:24.520 We need to do our study more efficiently because words do matter. You know, words do matter. And I just want you to know everything that we sometimes supposed to look at, we're supposed to define certain things that we don't understand. That's all I'm saying. Thank you. That's all I'm saying. There's no further discussion. Madam Clerk, please take the roll. Stacy. Aye. Shadle. Aye. Sanders. No. Sellers. Aye. Clem. Aye. Johnson. Aye. 02:50:24.680 --> 02:50:54.660 Simmons and Parker. Aye. The resolution is adopted seven to one. Item number 23 is adoption of resolution 2025-99. Could you please read this? Resolution approving independent contractor agreement with ultimate surveying application corp for Wayne Duckman for consulting services for community and economic development department. City manager. Thank you, your honor. As many of you knew, Wayne has submitted his letter of resignation. 02:50:54.680 --> 02:51:24.680 as a community development director. I asked him to stay on and we worked out about 16 hours a week until we get his position filled, which is currently being evaluated and we're in the process of interviewing candidates. So Mr. Duckman, for his own ease of accounting and so forth, asked that we use his LLC, which is Ultimate Surveying Applications Corp, as essentially to pay for his services at 16 hours a 02:51:24.680 --> 02:51:33.320 through that way. So staff recommends moving forward with an agreement with Ultimate Surveying 02:51:33.320 --> 02:51:39.560 Applications Corporation on a basically a week by week until we get the community director position 02:51:39.560 --> 02:51:47.640 filled. As of right now, it would be about $1,040 per week plus any additional hours that are required. 02:51:47.640 --> 02:51:53.040 So far, we haven't asked for anything, but if some emergent issue comes up, I wanted to make sure to 02:51:53.040 --> 02:51:56.360 include that in case we need his services in addition. 02:51:57.140 --> 02:51:58.480 Is there a motion to adopt? 02:51:58.940 --> 02:51:59.460 So moved. 02:51:59.600 --> 02:51:59.920 Second. 02:51:59.920 --> 02:52:04.500 A motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers. 02:52:04.780 --> 02:52:05.960 Discussion on the resolution. 02:52:06.100 --> 02:52:06.740 Alderman Stacy? 02:52:07.720 --> 02:52:09.260 So do I understand... 02:52:09.260 --> 02:52:13.120 Can I just remind you to try to put all your questions together instead of the back and forth, please? 02:52:13.240 --> 02:52:13.600 Okay. 02:52:13.600 --> 02:52:37.360 Okay. So do I understand you to be saying that we have agreed to, because I believe it's already happening, pay Duckman $140,000 for 16 hours? 02:52:39.240 --> 02:52:40.280 $140,000? 02:52:40.440 --> 02:52:42.060 No, $1,040. 02:52:42.060 --> 02:52:43.860 Yes, per week 02:52:43.860 --> 02:52:47.080 For 16 hours 02:52:47.080 --> 02:52:50.640 Yes, that works out to about his current paying benefits at this time 02:52:50.640 --> 02:52:59.040 And also that you had nine applicants, qualified applicants that have applied 02:52:59.040 --> 02:53:02.780 So why haven't they, the interviewing process started 02:53:02.780 --> 02:53:08.020 And why don't we have someone, knowing that he was leaving in the 31st of July 02:53:08.020 --> 02:53:39.320 lined up to pick up the pieces and carry this load because if he go over that 16 hours then it goes up to how much an hour? I mean it goes to $90 an hour if we go over 16 hours a week. So the other question was Wayne tendered his resignation and we began the process of posting the job very shortly thereafter within days. 02:53:39.320 --> 02:54:11.160 in our conversation you told me that you had nine qualified applicants yes my question is why haven't we started we have started the interviewing process yes it's a multi-phase process what does that mean there's more than one interview any other discussion madam clerk please take the role Stacy no Shadle Sanders Sellers I Clem all right Johnson 02:54:11.160 --> 02:54:43.080 Aye. Simmons? Can you do this with 911? Parker? Aye. The resolution is adopted 6-2. Item number 24 is the adoption of resolution 2025-100. Could you please read this? Resolution approving the Americans with Disabilities Act's grievance commission to repair certain sidewalks in the city and authorizing the city manager to budget for such repairs. 02:54:43.080 --> 02:55:13.080 Aaron good evening uh this is the same topic that we talked about at the cow just uh bringing it back for a formal vote um we have the uh ramps at uh park and church that are not compliant we also had a petitioner write a letter to the council uh that was read in public comment um i will review anything that anybody wants to discuss i'm not going to go through the entire thing again the intersection is not compliant 02:55:13.080 --> 02:55:16.880 We started the ADA grievance policy to address situations like this. 02:55:18.140 --> 02:55:22.720 The commission voted unanimously to bring this to council for a resolution. 02:55:23.740 --> 02:55:29.440 And currently we don't have funding marked because this program started in the middle of the year. 02:55:29.840 --> 02:55:38.600 I do think we might be able to have city construction workers do these intersections later this fall as time permits. 02:55:38.600 --> 02:56:08.600 otherwise they would be pushed to spring but it is a necessary outcome that needs to happen here again we have in the state safe routes to school zone we're next to an eye doctor Parkview nursing home this route connects to the park systems and we have a petitioner that's actually driving his mobility device out in the street to have safe access for him and his family during their enjoyment of the community so 02:56:08.600 --> 02:56:37.560 I think this is a needed project and I appreciate your support sir motion to adopt so move second motion made by alderman sellers seconded by alderman shadel discussion on the resolution alderman sanders uh darren mr stego stego sir um i'm looking at your map and i i remember talking about 02:56:37.560 --> 02:57:02.500 about the fact that we had this discussion last week, I believe it was, sidewalk to nowhere kind of program, and then I look at the agenda here today, and I notice something was added in this particular agenda on this particular article resolution, I should say. 02:57:02.500 --> 02:57:04.620 Just let me clarify that. Nothing's changed. 02:57:04.820 --> 02:57:05.500 Nothing's changed? 02:57:05.520 --> 02:57:09.020 This is exactly what was presented at the COW word for word. It's the same memo. 02:57:09.020 --> 02:57:23.380 Okay, if nothing's changed, then when we're specifying certain things about the public property, I'm going to put it like that, sidewalks are public property, right? 02:57:23.940 --> 02:57:25.800 Only the ADA corners. 02:57:26.280 --> 02:57:33.960 Just only because that's not what it specifies inside of this ordinance agenda. That's the reason why I'm bringing it up. 02:57:33.960 --> 02:58:03.940 It doesn't specify or designate every aspect of what this is supposed to accommodate and the reason why I ask that question is is it feasible for a homeowner or public citizen to make a formal complaint about a sidewalk that sometimes, you know, sometimes they are lifted and you can trip and fall and break your leg, break your knee, 02:58:03.960 --> 02:58:33.940 or whatever the case is. This is public property. When does it become ownership property and not only the ownership property, how do we take care of the concerned adjacent property owners, concerns about people walking down this path or this sidewalk and possibly tripping because 02:58:33.940 --> 02:59:02.560 We heard the story for many years. We know that's out there. And that's the reason why I brought this subject up. Will we be tentative to most residents or public property or public streets or sidewalks that will get attention to be rectified so these kinds of incursion does not cause any haphazards or anything of that nature to the general public? 02:59:02.560 --> 02:59:17.780 That's basically what I'm asking because if homeowners or whoever wants something to be looked at, it's our obligation to make sure it's not about where does that come in at? 02:59:18.040 --> 02:59:20.280 Well, we covered that at the cow. 02:59:20.660 --> 02:59:21.000 Okay. 02:59:21.280 --> 02:59:25.240 The homeowners in Freeport own the sidewalks in front of their residents. 02:59:25.340 --> 02:59:25.600 Okay. 02:59:25.600 --> 02:59:26.380 in front of their residents or their businesses. 02:59:27.060 --> 02:59:29.500 We only own the ADA corners. 02:59:30.020 --> 02:59:40.420 Well, when I talked about sidewalk to nowhere, that's part of someone's property, sidewalk to nowhere, 02:59:40.680 --> 02:59:46.860 and you're making a declaration of extending sidewalks. 02:59:46.860 --> 02:59:48.220 Well, that's what I'm getting. 02:59:48.220 --> 02:59:50.500 That's how I'm understanding that. 02:59:50.640 --> 02:59:53.660 If I'm understanding it wrong, then it must be worded wrong. 02:59:53.660 --> 03:00:00.440 or it's got to be interpreted wrong. So we'll show you a couple pictures quickly, quick review. 03:00:03.940 --> 03:00:09.800 There we go. This is a sidewalk to nowhere. There's no ramp that crosses the street to go out here. This 03:00:09.800 --> 03:00:17.440 is called a carriage walk and they were popular back in the 90s, 80s, but they're no longer illegal 03:00:17.440 --> 03:00:22.080 because a handicapped person that is visually impaired could go down this sidewalk and they 03:00:22.080 --> 03:00:54.840 would not know that they're, they can't cross the street. Okay. That's a sidewalk to nowhere. To nowhere. Okay. That's your definition of a sidewalk to nowhere. Well, there's also the sidewalks to nowhere. Kurt, could you go to the St. John's picture, please? So that's one definition of a sidewalk to nowhere. Yeah. This is another sidewalk to nowhere. That's what I'm talking about. That's not our responsibility. That is the responsibility of the homeowner to finish that sidewalk, not the city. Okay. That subject, that right there did not come up 03:00:54.840 --> 03:01:24.820 in the last discussion. Yes, we discussed it. I know it came up for discussion, but it was addressed as a sidewalk to nowhere, according to what I was listening to. And that's the reason why I'm mentioning it, because there's a lot of residents throughout the city that has sidewalks to nowhere in front of their residents. And that's the reason why I'm addressing it now, because if you can do that, if you can address it here at the council, that means that it must be 03:01:24.820 --> 03:01:30.460 something that we're considering doing. That's what I'm looking at. Our current ordinances have the 03:01:30.460 --> 03:01:37.640 ability to cite homeowners and or businesses for not extending their sidewalks. We have never chosen to 03:01:37.640 --> 03:01:44.220 do that in the city of Freeport. Financially, it's not feasible for all these people, but the city could 03:01:44.220 --> 03:01:49.400 cite someone for not connecting their sidewalks. This sidewalk, I called it, goes to nowhere because 03:01:49.400 --> 03:01:54.240 it stops here. It doesn't connect to the church property, and there's no sidewalk across the 03:01:54.240 --> 03:02:00.680 school property either. Those choices were made many, many years ago, and it is not the city's 03:02:00.680 --> 03:02:24.220 responsibility to connect those. Okay, so we do have that part of an ordinance. Alderman Sanders, your four minutes has far exceeded. I'm sorry. I just wanted to make sure that the citizens of Freeport are getting all the accommodations that they need. Okay, but do you understand this isn't about all the sidewalks in Freeport? This is about an ADA commission. I'm just saying that people have a complaint or an issue. Just like I brought up the elevator, the lift 03:02:24.220 --> 03:02:49.840 shift elevation of sidewalks. People can be in a hazard situation in front of their property, but they don't have the finances to rectify the problem. But the point of the matter is, where does the city come in at? Because if somebody trips and falls, somebody is liable. The homeowner is liable. It's on your homeowner's insurance. Oh, okay. So homeowners are liable for these kinds of things. Okay. I got you. 03:02:49.840 --> 03:02:54.920 If there's no further discussion, Madam Clerk, please take the roll 03:02:54.920 --> 03:03:06.820 Stacey, Aye, Shadle, Aye, Sanders, Aye, Sellers, Aye, Clemm, Aye, Johnson, Aye, Simmons, Parker, Aye 03:03:06.820 --> 03:03:09.500 The resolution is adopted 8-0 03:03:09.500 --> 03:03:13.780 Item number 25, approval of a bid, could you please read this 03:03:13.780 --> 03:03:18.020 Bid opening on July 22nd, lift station on Walnut Avenue 03:03:18.020 --> 03:03:19.040 Manager Boyer 03:03:19.040 --> 03:03:19.980 Thank you, Your Honor 03:03:19.980 --> 03:03:49.960 Ferrogram design and bid sanitary sewer lift station force main piping and gravity improvements for the land road area sanitary sewer flow at the request of the city. The existing sewer system has an issue, a significant issue near the landfill perimeter and cannot be accessed for repairs to the IEP regulations, landfill closure requirements, and extreme depth of the sewer main from grade. This sewer area carries a significant flow to the city's interceptor on a daily basis. 03:03:49.980 --> 03:04:16.420 basis, and a public bid opening was held on July 22nd at 1030 a.m. City staff received four bids for the project from Martin and Company, Ntrek Group, Kelsey Excavating, and Fisher Excavating. Fisher Excavating was a missing required bid item, so it was deemed non-responsive, and Kelsey's Excavating was the lowest responsible bidder at $2,847,451.50. 03:04:16.420 --> 03:04:22.660 sentence. Kelsey excavating is currently working on the 2025 street city street project and has completed 03:04:22.660 --> 03:04:27.720 other sewer force main work for the city of Freeport with positive results. The project completion is 03:04:27.720 --> 03:04:33.840 estimated for June, 2026, taking into account equipment lead times. This project is planned to be 03:04:33.840 --> 03:04:39.020 paid for with Lanham Road TIF funds and staff recommends moving forward with this bid. Is there a motion to 03:04:39.020 --> 03:04:46.220 approve? So moved. Second. Motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers. Discussion 03:04:46.220 --> 03:05:16.920 on the bid. Alderman Sanders. On the bid? On the bid. Okay, I feel absolutely, absolutely feel that there should not even have been a bid entertained, first of all, on the landfill excavation pro a bid far as work that is going to be supposedly done without a complete survey and evaluation. 03:05:17.600 --> 03:05:46.080 to determine the future of the landfills that are out there at the landfill on Walnut, there has to be information to the reason why we're working on a landfill sewer line that is possibly connected to the interceptors, and I don't think a bid should go out for any of that kind of a project 03:05:46.080 --> 03:06:16.060 until we have done a complete evaluation and study on that particular landfill and that and that and this should not even be considered before we have done our own homework here at the council. And I think and until that happens, then we're we're walking into a blind wooded area. That's my that's my assessment of it. And I think the people of the city of Freeport should be knowing 03:06:16.060 --> 03:06:32.980 should know that there's sewer lines out at the landfill that has not had a study to determine its existence, and that thing could be still open to the city, the public, causing all kinds of habits and problems. 03:06:32.980 --> 03:06:46.040 So I think it needs to be reevaluated. I don't like an incomplete study to determine whether or not we should be bidding on anything, and I'm surprised a bid like that even 03:06:46.040 --> 03:07:16.020 hit the floor, hit this council floor. I am so surprised in the derelict of duty that we have not done anything to make that discovery happen, and I'm looking at it here on the agenda, and I'm saying to myself, where's the rest of the background noise? Where's the rest of the background information? Why haven't we had a formal discussion about these issues? We're just throwing money away without doing what we should be doing. 03:07:16.040 --> 03:07:35.180 I don't like the fact that it's being dismissed as if though we don't have a problem that could cause us problems within the near future. So I don't get it. I'm just frustrated with that. 03:07:35.180 --> 03:07:57.490 Alderman, Stacy. Are you asking us to vote tonight on giving Davis, Illinois, $2,847,451.50? 03:07:59.990 --> 03:08:09.980 That's the bid. That's the lowest bid. I can't believe I'm here. Help me understand. It's not Davis, 03:08:09.980 --> 03:08:16.180 Davis, Illinois. That's where the contractor, that's their home address is Davis, Illinois. It's Kelsey 03:08:16.180 --> 03:08:20.680 excavating. They're already doing work for the city of Freeport. They're doing our street projects 03:08:20.680 --> 03:08:27.060 and they were the low responsive bidder to the project. So yes, that is exactly what we're asking 03:08:27.060 --> 03:08:35.560 is to award money to them as the low bidder. Any other discussion? I would like to clarify something 03:08:35.560 --> 03:08:45.040 if I might. We had an entire meeting at the cow last week that we went over these exact topic with the 03:08:45.040 --> 03:08:51.120 council that was here. We went through the flow and the gallons and this has been an issue since city 03:08:51.120 --> 03:08:59.400 manager Bukas was on the staff. He's the actual one that started the project and there is a need for 03:08:59.400 --> 03:09:24.000 for sewer flow and force paint out there, and it's resulting in the landfill, not because of the landfill, the flow problem is through the landfill. This station will bypass the landfill, and all the landfill flow from the leachate system will go into this station, as well as all of the Lamb Road Tiftistic and any expansion that happens in either direction. 03:09:24.000 --> 03:09:53.120 expansion that happens in either direction, east or west. Mike? Okay, now remember this is about the bid. Well, he wasn't talking, oh, well, all right, Mayor. You know, this stuff can become comical if you don't know exactly what is being said, and then it'll just fly right over your head as if though you understood just what he was just saying. 03:09:53.120 --> 03:10:23.100 I'm just going to, if it's not about the bid, I just want to make a comment about what he just said. Is that okay? Without the term, without the word of bidding coming out of my mouth, I just want to make a comment about what he just said. Is that okay? Because he makes comments about what we say. Okay, go ahead. All right. All right. That whole landfill situation diverted 03:10:23.120 --> 03:10:53.100 going around the situation, but you never talked about how you're going to disconnect from the interceptors or how you're going to abandon that whole system throughout the whole process of doing anything. We're just going to abandon something that has nowhere to go, and yet it is still alive, and it's still functionable, but yet we're still going to make an investment to divert the line away from its 03:10:53.120 --> 03:11:24.630 is normal path already to accommodate what type of floor we're trying to demonstrate here because if it's not broke, then why trying to reroute something that is not broke? I just don't get it. And so if we're closing the landfill down, if the landfill is being closed down in excavation and all these kinds of things are going to take place over at the landfill, then we must do something about 03:11:24.630 --> 03:11:54.170 talking about the existing sewer lines that are flowing to the interceptor out of all places and not talking about the disconnect. There has to be a disconnect there because if not, there could be infiltration at the intercept wherever this thing dumps off to. I'd like to know how you're going to reroute it and reconnect it. Whatever you're thinking about doing, I'm just baffled with all of that. 03:11:54.630 --> 03:11:58.930 So if there's no further discussion, Madam Clerk, are you, did you have something? 03:11:59.090 --> 03:12:00.270 I wanted an answer. 03:12:01.790 --> 03:12:09.890 The answer is it's all in the plan and it's in the details, but the details are too great to explain at a council meeting. 03:12:10.070 --> 03:12:10.630 That's what I thought. 03:12:10.630 --> 03:12:15.690 These questions should be asked throughout the week so they can be answered, not at this floor. 03:12:15.850 --> 03:12:17.650 That discussion would take hours. 03:12:17.830 --> 03:12:18.270 You got that right. 03:12:18.270 --> 03:12:20.630 But you haven't asked me any questions except for here. 03:12:20.630 --> 03:12:22.010 No, I won't, I won't, because I. 03:12:22.010 --> 03:12:53.930 Alderman Sanders, you need to stop being out of order, please. Okay, I'm sorry. I apologize, Mayor. If there's no further discussion, Madam Clerk, please take the roll. Stacy? No. Shadle? Aye. Sanders? No. Sellers? Aye. Clem? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. Parker? Aye. The motion passes 5-3. Item number 26 is another bid. Could you please read? Bid opening on July 30th, CD-006, 03:12:53.930 --> 03:13:23.910 7, 2025, demolition of eight properties. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Excuse me. Eight properties were published in the Journal Standard on July 24th or a bid opening that occurred on July 30th at nine o'clock in the morning at City Hall and it was for the demolition of eight blighted properties and on July 30th staff received bids from four contractors and based on 03:13:23.910 --> 03:13:31.250 the submitted bids. Staff is recommending issuing a contract for all the demolition of all eight 03:13:31.250 --> 03:13:37.570 properties to Albert and Son Earthworks for the amount of $100,610 as they are the lowest responsible 03:13:37.570 --> 03:13:44.530 bidder. Is there a motion to approve? So moved. Second. Motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by 03:13:44.530 --> 03:13:56.820 Alderman Sellers. Discussion on the bids. Alderman Stacy. The money used for these demolitions are 03:13:56.820 --> 03:14:32.370 coming from what? So, yeah, I put that in the memo as well. Scroll down here a little bit. Better yet, when we had a meeting at the library, there was money that we had from the east side of town. Money and grants that were given to us to destroy property over there. Park Street, Crocker Street, Wilbur Avenue, 03:14:32.390 --> 03:14:49.530 Avenue, Adelbert Avenue, are all on the east side of town. We had money we had to use or lose. Why are we using that money for those streets when we have money that we have to use or lose? 03:14:49.530 --> 03:15:02.250 I'll make it a little easier to see because it's a little bright, but maybe you can see it a little easier now. Funding for the demolitions comes from FEMA floodway grant programs. 03:15:02.250 --> 03:15:09.690 Okay, but wasn't that FEMA Floodway Grant Program for housing on the east side of town? 03:15:09.970 --> 03:15:25.350 Correct. So the demolitions are funded by the FEMA Floodway Grant Programs, and then these are the houses that the property owners receive money for, for selling their property, and the city is demolishing it now as part of the FEMA program. 03:15:25.350 --> 03:15:37.470 But Carroll, Prospect Terrace, Pleasant Street, and Williams Road, wherever that is, it's not in the FEMA, it's not in the area where the FEMA money was granted 03:15:37.470 --> 03:15:47.690 So funding for the demolitions comes from the Illinois Housing Development Authority Strong Communities Program, which the city has now spent most of it, but there's still money left 03:15:47.690 --> 03:16:17.630 that program is $300,000 for the demolition of blighted properties and the FEMA floodway grant program so if it's on the east side and eligible it receives the FEMA floodway grant program money if it is not it has fallen into the IDA strong community program and that's where the funding comes from but what about the the what was it 10 or 12 houses that was not on the east side of town that 03:16:17.630 --> 03:16:47.230 that were scheduled to come down this year, and none have come down. I have no idea. Well, you'd have to give me specific properties. We now have 17 properties that are, this is a first eight, and I have another nine, and this department, I believe, has another bid opening coming for 10 more properties, so. I spoke with you and City Manager Boyer, and I asked for a list. So are you telling me this is eight 03:16:47.230 --> 03:16:55.330 of the 17 on the list. I would say probably yes. I don't have that list in front of me but I could 03:16:55.330 --> 03:17:01.150 I don't know what properties. I'm still waiting for it too. I don't know what I mean I could tell you that 03:17:01.150 --> 03:17:06.370 there's eight properties being demolished in this bid package. There's about to be nine more coming up 03:17:06.370 --> 03:17:11.750 after this and then my staff is working on another 10. There's going to be another bid opening so that 03:17:11.750 --> 03:17:15.870 that would be 27 properties probably in the next two months that are going to be demolished. 03:17:18.850 --> 03:17:19.370 Okay. 03:17:20.770 --> 03:17:22.630 And a clerk, Alderman Klein. 03:17:23.670 --> 03:17:42.930 Just because it was mentioned before, Wayne, many of us know about the properties on the east side, but could you explain, because some of the renters have come forward, and could some of these houses be rebuilt, so on and so forth, tell them the status of what these houses 03:17:42.930 --> 03:18:11.090 versus the condition of them. Well, the short answer is any property on the east side, these properties, I've walked through the majority of these personally because I have to let in our asbestos contractor. So many of these properties have a water line through the house actually on the walls. Many of them do. Many of them also have soggy floors from water damage. 03:18:11.090 --> 03:18:37.070 So practically speaking, they're beyond repair. But then if you want to go into actual government regulation, FEMA at the federal level is not going to let a government entity like the city issue permits for fixing a property for, excuse me, for more than 50% of its value. So there's a practical implication, which basically says the buildings are gone too far. 03:18:37.070 --> 03:19:06.750 but there's also the federal government which is saying you cannot redevelop it. Another common complaint I've read some of the complaints from our community is that there's poor living conditions. The truly unfortunate part is many of these properties are picked up. Now the ones up here that were talked about the non FEMA east side properties. The sad thing is many of these properties are picked up for back taxes. They're not properly repaired and people are 03:19:06.750 --> 03:19:21.790 renting them, and then the city ultimately comes by, has to do inspections, and finds out that these properties that are so far gone are not completely repaired to an adequate level, and it's sad that our community is actually renting these properties. 03:19:21.790 --> 03:19:27.220 is actually renting these properties. So many of these properties are, all of these properties are so 03:19:27.220 --> 03:19:35.560 far gone that they cannot be repaired. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. You're welcome. 03:19:35.560 --> 03:19:44.540 And what you're also stipulating that they're, that these properties are, since they're at the point of 03:19:44.540 --> 03:19:51.260 demolition, there shouldn't be any occupiers, even in those buildings that we're, as a 03:19:51.280 --> 03:20:21.280 as we speak today. Is that what you're saying? Yes, that is correct. And that we should be moving forward to having those property tore down. Have we had any complaints about any of the properties that we're tearing down to be reconsidered for rehab or rehabilitation and that kind of thing? Have we had that kind of expression down at the community development to reconsider 03:20:21.280 --> 03:20:27.880 or anything that someone was interested in. All of these east side properties here that you're seeing here 03:20:27.880 --> 03:20:36.260 were purchased at a closing. Paperwork was signed and the property owners, if they lived, they received 03:20:36.260 --> 03:20:42.460 appraised value plus $31,000 if they lived in the property during the time of the flood. The other 03:20:42.460 --> 03:20:48.340 properties up here are either fast track demolitions or they are purchased off of the back or purchased 03:20:48.340 --> 03:21:17.560 from the county for back taxes. So any property up here that is purchased for back taxes was owned by the county, the city owns it, there's not going to be complaints. Any property that is a fast track demolition has had proper notice and there's due process for that property owner to file a complaint and stop demolition. So at any point in time, every one of these properties has had an opportunity to talk about development, etc. 03:21:17.560 --> 03:21:19.880 and it's in there no longer at that point. 03:21:20.580 --> 03:21:23.040 Alderman Sanders, please remember we're talking about a bid. 03:21:25.090 --> 03:21:25.330 Huh? 03:21:25.970 --> 03:21:27.610 This is about approving a bid. 03:21:31.040 --> 03:21:31.400 Okay. 03:21:32.600 --> 03:21:38.900 You know, sometimes I have to navigate myself through the process. 03:21:38.900 --> 03:21:39.420 Okay. 03:21:40.400 --> 03:21:47.140 Even though it might be inconvenience to a lot of folk that are listening, but the thing about it is 03:21:47.140 --> 03:21:52.440 We're sticking to the bidding portion of it all. 03:21:52.440 --> 03:22:13.770 The only thing I'd like to know is when you're looking at bids for these properties that are supposed to be demoed and people have not any complaints about these property and reconsideration, 03:22:13.770 --> 03:22:41.470 Are you receiving anything about these properties that should make you say, hmm, question it or reconsider or anything? Is anybody making any kind of proposals to the community about these properties? No, there's nothing substantiative about these properties that's being proposed for redevelopment, et cetera. Okay. All right, then. Okay. Alderman Johnson? 03:22:41.470 --> 03:22:49.870 I just wondered what makes the difference in the price of the bid is it just the size of the house the material it's made out of or what makes the difference between 03:22:49.870 --> 03:22:59.830 your biggest sorry go ahead I apologize no that's it um your biggest truly the biggest gap that you're going to see up here on prices 03:22:59.830 --> 03:23:08.150 majority of it's going to be asbestos abatement so every single property on here has an asbestos inspection and on the bid packet 03:23:08.150 --> 03:23:16.350 there is a list from a contractor that says what has asbestos on the property and if there's asbestos within 03:23:16.350 --> 03:23:21.750 the property that could more than double the price of a demolition so if a property doesn't have asbestos 03:23:21.750 --> 03:23:28.670 it's going to be a quick it'll be a much lower price okay thank you madam clerk please take the roll on 03:23:28.670 --> 03:23:59.170 approving the bid. Stacey? Aye. Shadle? Aye. Sanders? Aye. Sellers? Aye. Clem? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. And Parker? Aye. The motion passes 8-0. Item number 27 is another bid approval. Could you please read this? Bid opening on July 30th, CD-008-2025, demolition of nine properties. 03:23:59.170 --> 03:24:27.350 Director Duckman Excuse me. Thank you, Madam Mayor. As promised, here are the other nine properties that are up for demolition, and these nine properties were published in the Journal of Standard on July 24th, and the bid opening was held at City Hall on July 30th at 915. City staff received bids from four contractors, and this, based on the submitted bids, 03:24:27.350 --> 03:24:57.190 The lowest responsible builder was Albert and Son Earthworks and they submitted a bid for $121,570 to demolish all properties and staff recommends issuing them the contract as the lowest responsible bidder. Is there a motion to approve? So moved. Second. A motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Clem. Discussion on the bid. Madam Clerk, please take the roll. Stacy? Aye. Shadle? Aye. 03:24:57.350 --> 03:25:22.610 Sanders, Aye, Sellers, Aye, Plum, Aye, Johnson, Aye, Simmons, Aye, and Parker. Who is absent? The motion passes seven to zero. Item number 28 is another bid. Could you please read? Bid opening on August 1st, 2025, CD009-2025, fence installation and board up at 114-122 South Liberty Avenue. 03:25:22.610 --> 03:25:51.530 Thank you, Madam Mayor. So talk a little bit about what we have going on here. I have a site plan here kind of showing what's going on at the Raleigh complex. As everybody knows, the Raleigh building is in poor condition. There has been some stone falling off into this alley. There's also broken windows around the area. 03:25:51.530 --> 03:25:59.170 and recognizing that staff has worked with city manager Boyer and discussed options on how we can 03:25:59.170 --> 03:26:09.590 better secure the site and so we put out to bid a site plan illustrating what we could do to secure the site 03:26:09.590 --> 03:26:15.030 so essentially there is a six foot high chain link fence that's going to go around the Raleigh complex 03:26:15.030 --> 03:26:21.130 it's going to connect there's an existing garage here another existing building here and essentially 03:26:21.130 --> 03:26:27.350 it's going to close off the entire structure with a six foot high fence. There's going to be one six foot gate 03:26:27.350 --> 03:26:33.210 here that they could enter or a city staff will have a key to enter in hopes that we can better secure the 03:26:33.210 --> 03:26:44.770 site. If we scroll down a little bit, I kind of show you some of the windows. Part of this bit is also 03:26:44.770 --> 03:26:54.450 going to include a board up so I've I've drawn in red the building the um okay he's going to full screen 03:26:54.450 --> 03:27:00.850 mode essentially I showed the essentially it's going to be all of the first floor windows on the Raleigh 03:27:00.850 --> 03:27:07.710 complex are going to be I highlighted in red here what it's going to look like these windows will be 03:27:07.710 --> 03:27:13.130 boarded up and then if you scroll up there will be a few more that will be boarded up that basically 03:27:13.130 --> 03:27:43.130 essentially all of the windows on the first floor will be boarded up and so the city staff at the bid opening it was published in the journal standard on July 27th and the bidding bid opening occurred on August 1st at 10 a.m. City Hall and city staff received bids from three contractors fence Peoria was eliminated as they did not submit the required all the required 03:27:43.130 --> 03:27:57.890 the lowest responsible bidder was winter construction at a proposal of $78,000 and staff is recommending moving forward with winter construction for the installation of a fence and board up of all of the first floor windows at the Raleigh building. 03:27:59.920 --> 03:28:01.160 Is there a motion to approve? 03:28:01.640 --> 03:28:02.100 So moved. 03:28:02.640 --> 03:28:03.160 Second. 03:28:04.160 --> 03:28:09.100 We have a motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers. 03:28:09.720 --> 03:28:11.420 Discussion, Alderman Stacy? 03:28:11.420 --> 03:28:23.760 If we're putting up a fence, why do we have to worry with the windows if there's going to be a fence around it, the whole building? And better yet, why not just tear it down? 03:28:24.540 --> 03:28:41.060 Well, the demolition would probably push close to $10 million. So with budget season coming up, it might be a good idea for you to possibly propose that. But until then, securing the site is the best plan of action. 03:28:41.420 --> 03:29:11.420 um other than just a fence it's important that staff is trying to secure the area as much as possible so we have broken windows and glass and it's an easier way that if somebody were to get in through the fence they could still climb into the building so we're doing everything we can staff wants to do everything they can to secure the site and protect it um from further vandalism so this is going to be what a four foot fence six foot high fence six foot high fence 03:29:11.420 --> 03:29:14.620 Link, or 03:29:14.620 --> 03:29:15.940 Chainlink 03:29:15.940 --> 03:29:19.350 Orman Sanders 03:29:19.350 --> 03:29:47.930 Pullman Sanders, Mr. Duckman, that building been in place for how many years? Probably close to 100 years. Yeah, and the main reason why, and I want the general public to know the main reason why it hasn't been considered to be demoed at this time, and what's the, and the outbreak or the outcome 03:29:47.930 --> 03:30:17.930 or the environment that this particular building could bring unto the city and why haven't we made proposal for grants to do it the proper way and if there's a reason why that is kind of educate us a little bit on why this building is still standing and we're taking five dollars to try to mend it up with band-aids and there should be appropriate grants for these 03:30:17.930 --> 03:30:47.870 this kind of hazard. This building is a complete hazard. It's been here, like you say, over 100 years, but been out of commission, I'm going to say about over 50 years, you know, that kind of thing. But the point that I'm making is, how come we have not looked into this particular matter, instead of throwing band-aids up against it, and see what the outcome is that we are considering, because that building has been an eyesore to the city of Freeport, 03:30:47.870 --> 03:31:14.930 for decades, and we need to be trying to be tentative even about that as opposed if we can take $10 million and find grants for $10 million to tear down a building, we should be able to take $10 million to erect housings, apartments, complex, or whatever where they should be designated. I'm just saying, are we considering any of those aspects at this point in time? 03:31:14.930 --> 03:31:21.170 A couple of things. Well, you had a lot there. So I'll try to get it. I'll try to address all your comments. 03:31:21.330 --> 03:31:27.210 The first comment is when you walk down this alley, I don't know the last time you walked down this alley. 03:31:27.450 --> 03:31:31.250 It's full of stone. And what it is, is the cap up here. 03:31:32.930 --> 03:31:39.790 It's likely people we know people are breaking in to this area. We have evidence of that. We have proof of that. 03:31:39.790 --> 03:32:09.790 there's quite a bit of vandalism from people breaking in and it's likely that they're pushing all of the cap and stone into this alley and right now after observing and knowing that I find it just irresponsible to continue to allow God forbid somebody walks down there and that stone hits a person so at that point the most immediate action to do is to lock off the 03:32:09.790 --> 03:32:39.710 Alley and the surrounding area. That's truly the honest reason why this quote-unquote band-aid is being done is to protect the public. That's the most honest answer that I can give right there. Now we're talking about demolition. Certainly that's a budget discussion to bring up with city manager Boyer that if the city wants to try to find $10 million taxpayer dollars to demolish, and I'm only giving you the estimate, it could be 03:32:39.710 --> 03:32:47.870 Moore. It is. I mean, if the city demolishes this, I heard all the persons say, say, city or taxpayer dollars. 03:32:48.030 --> 03:32:53.850 Yes. If the city demolishes this, it would be city taxpayer funds. Now, is it possible that we could 03:32:53.850 --> 03:33:00.910 go after grants for this demolition? Yes. And we can investigate that. Yes. That takes time. Yes. 03:33:00.910 --> 03:33:08.930 It takes time. Other part to that is brownfield reuse. Other communities have had success 03:33:08.930 --> 03:33:37.870 and redeveloping, this is a brownfield site, an old industrial building that has lacked use in 50 years, let's say, okay, I have been part of bringing developers, potential developers into this site with ideas of redevelopment, I have, it's a tough sell, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that that's an easy sell, so the tough decision city staff has is, and should also look at in parallel 03:33:37.870 --> 03:34:07.870 at the same time is looking to redevelop it which would eliminate the need for a demolition or also and I'm saying parallel so at the same time and also investigate grants for its demolition and that's what we're doing. That's exactly what we're doing. I'm glad to hear that we are on the move with that. It's something that has been put on the back burner for decades and nobody 03:34:07.870 --> 03:34:37.850 Jodi has brought the subject matter up, and I think it's a good time for the whole community to take that into consideration and say, well, hey, we're doing everything else. We're throwing lift stations and water wells and places like that, and we're getting grants for all these kinds of things, but one thing that we have not focused on is the haphazardly, haphazard things that is being in our community. 03:34:37.870 --> 03:35:07.850 that it really is an environment problem. It's not going to go away. And the thing about it is we need to pursue grants that rectifies and take care of these kinds of things that we need to get rid of. I can see that. I can see the environment of these buildings cause health breathing problems within the city without the city doing a 03:35:07.870 --> 03:35:35.430 a full evaluation of the air of the city. I don't even think we test our air here in the city of Freeport, to be honest with you. We should start, but, you know, I don't think we do, but just to get an idea of what a building can do to the city without knowing that certain agents are floating around out there in the community, we need to do a study on that as well. I'm just venting right now, but. 03:35:35.430 --> 03:36:05.410 Understood. Understood. Yes, sir. We want to get back to this is about a bid. Alderman Johnson. Do we have any bids at all? How much it would cost? Have we actually put it out for a bid? How much it would cost to demolition that building? We've not, but what was our demolition? What was the, what did we just receive for two, the dry cleaner downtown? So the, yeah, the dry cleaner in the building next door that the city owns is going to cost a little over $1.2 million to demo just those two 03:36:05.430 --> 03:36:11.050 buildings and they're not built anywhere close to the solidness of this structure and I want to remind 03:36:11.050 --> 03:36:18.510 everyone when we got the 1.7 million dollars that was the by far largest award in the state of Illinois to 03:36:18.510 --> 03:36:24.750 take down any buildings they don't have grants of 10 million dollars to take down a building this size so 03:36:24.750 --> 03:36:31.150 the city will be footing the bill at some point along with a grant to take something like this down it's 03:36:31.150 --> 03:37:01.130 a very large cost here. It's a complete concrete structure. It's necessary. Okay, so if there's no further questions, did you have another one? Yeah. Alderman Johnson. The low bidder that bid, they didn't include some information. Can we not ask them for that information? That's not something we can do. We looked and actually, I looked into that matter with council and discussed it at length and we looked through our rules and regulations and it was determined that that's 03:37:01.130 --> 03:37:28.130 It's not fair to the, you know, during the open bidding, in an open bidding process, it wouldn't be fair to have everybody else submit a complete submittal, and this happens quite a bit, where somebody forgets a document, and they can't come back later and submit it. That's common practice in not just Freeport, but any community. You know, we list out, if there's 10 items you have to submit, you have to submit all 10 items, or else you're thrown out of the open bid. 03:37:28.130 --> 03:37:29.690 Alderman Sellers 03:37:29.690 --> 03:37:39.250 Yes, I just want to know when all the fencing and everything is around, are we also going to have enough signs around it to keep out and 03:37:39.250 --> 03:37:45.450 Yes, we will have signs, no trespassing signs put up and anything else necessary 03:37:45.450 --> 03:37:48.850 Okay, Madam Clerk, please take the roll 03:37:48.850 --> 03:37:49.690 Stacy 03:37:49.690 --> 03:37:50.530 No 03:37:50.530 --> 03:37:52.130 Shadle 03:37:52.130 --> 03:37:52.750 Aye 03:37:52.750 --> 03:37:54.050 Sanders 03:37:54.050 --> 03:37:55.030 Aye 03:37:55.030 --> 03:37:56.210 Sellers 03:37:56.210 --> 03:37:56.770 Aye 03:37:56.770 --> 03:37:57.850 Plum 03:37:57.850 --> 03:38:31.800 Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? She's gone. Oh, I'm sorry, she's absent. And Parker? Aye. So we have six to one, it passes. Item number 29 is another bid. Could you please read this? Bid opening on August 1st, CD 010, 2025, asbestos abatement for hangar D at 2155. 03:38:31.980 --> 03:38:33.040 East Airport Road. 03:38:34.040 --> 03:38:34.960 Director Duckman? 03:38:35.320 --> 03:38:36.380 Thank you, Madam Mayor. 03:38:37.480 --> 03:38:43.660 So I have a couple pictures coming up here shortly, but essentially what we have is Hangar D is at the 03:38:43.660 --> 03:38:52.360 Albertus Airport, and it's quickly deteriorating building, and it truly needs to be demolished, 03:38:52.360 --> 03:38:56.020 and staff is going to self-perform this. 03:38:56.220 --> 03:38:58.720 Public Works Department will self-perform the demolition. 03:38:58.720 --> 03:39:17.960 however asbestos abatement has to be done by a licensed contractor for that work and so staff put out a bid for asbestos abatement for Hangar D at Albertus Airport and it was published on in the Journal Standard on July 27th and the bid opening was held August 1st at 1015 and staff 03:39:17.960 --> 03:39:23.060 at 1015, and staff received bids from two contractors, and the one contractor did not submit a bid bond 03:39:23.060 --> 03:39:30.880 as required, and so therefore their bid was eliminated, and the staff is recommending going with 03:39:30.880 --> 03:39:36.720 the lowest responsible bidder of Environmental Management Services of Iowa, and they submitted a 03:39:36.720 --> 03:39:44.380 bid of $27,750. Is there a motion to approve? So moved. Second. The motion made by Alderman Sellers, 03:39:44.380 --> 03:39:52.020 seconded by Alderman Shadle. Discussion on this bid. Alderman Sanders. I understand that bid, 03:39:53.120 --> 03:40:06.140 but there's an environmental issue with that bid, and what you're saying, they are certified to do the 03:40:06.140 --> 03:40:15.860 asbestos for demolition? They are certified to do that? Yes, that was part of their 03:40:15.860 --> 03:40:45.840 submitted they were required to submit their licenses as part of this bid so when we opened it and clerk Anderson was a witness can attest to it had seen that they submitted their proper licensing okay any other city property have received any bids for a demolition with asbestos okay we're not going there this is about this particular bid at the airport not all the other stuff I don't like what you just said you know what you're you're you keep going 03:40:45.840 --> 03:41:15.500 I'm talking about a bid. I'm talking about a bid. You just asked about a bid for the entire city. I don't care. So we are talking about a bid. What goes for one property goes for all property. I'm asking a question about a bid. Would you like to ask a question about Hangar D? Why are you directing my focus to just Hangar D? Because that's what the agenda is. Hangar D is not the only problem. It is the only thing that's on this bid. Okay. All right, Mayor. 03:41:15.840 --> 03:41:19.680 You are asserting yourself into 03:41:19.680 --> 03:41:21.060 Is there any other discussion? 03:41:21.260 --> 03:41:24.000 If not, Madam Clerk, could you please take the roll? 03:41:24.140 --> 03:41:25.380 You can't be doing that, Mayor. 03:41:25.380 --> 03:41:25.700 Stacey? 03:41:26.320 --> 03:41:26.680 Aye. 03:41:27.480 --> 03:41:27.840 Shadle? 03:41:28.060 --> 03:41:28.280 Aye. 03:41:28.700 --> 03:41:29.100 Sanders? 03:41:29.620 --> 03:41:29.920 No. 03:41:30.640 --> 03:41:31.120 Sellers? 03:41:31.120 --> 03:41:31.380 Aye. 03:41:32.240 --> 03:41:32.640 Clem? 03:41:32.820 --> 03:41:33.100 Aye. 03:41:33.780 --> 03:41:34.220 Johnson? 03:41:34.580 --> 03:41:34.800 Aye. 03:41:35.300 --> 03:41:35.600 Simmons? 03:41:36.220 --> 03:41:36.540 Aye. 03:41:37.000 --> 03:41:37.540 And Parker? 03:41:37.840 --> 03:41:38.100 Aye. 03:41:38.480 --> 03:41:40.420 The motion passes, 7 to 1. 03:41:41.000 --> 03:41:42.780 Item number 30 is another bid approval. 03:41:42.940 --> 03:41:43.620 Please read this. 03:41:43.620 --> 03:42:16.360 bid opening on August 13th resurfacing of 18th Avenue Andrew Boyer thank you your honor recon corporation worked with the city of Freeport to reach an agreement for the development of the solar field at the end of 18th Avenue that's in the arcade as part of the agreement recon corporation was to assist with roadway improvements to 18th Avenue because the idea is there they'll be using 18th Avenue to do this the installation 03:42:16.360 --> 03:42:46.360 they'll be running trucks in and out of there and the road was somewhat deteriorated and the point is to restore the road once they're completed with the solar field project so as part of the agreement Recon Corporation will contribute $440,000 toward improvements on 18th Avenue and provide the city of Freeport with improvement plans prepared by Bowman for the improvements to 18th Avenue a public bid opening was held on August 13th at 10 a.m. at the city of Freeport 03:42:46.360 --> 03:42:53.380 City staff received three bids for the project, one from Martin and Company, one from Helm, and Fisher's Excavating. 03:42:53.940 --> 03:43:01.400 Fisher's Excavating was the lowest responsible bidder at $511,212.00. 03:43:01.400 --> 03:43:12.780 Fisher Excavating is currently working on the 2025 City Water and Streets Projects and has completed other street improvements within the city of Freeport with positive results. 03:43:12.780 --> 03:43:38.620 Project completion is estimated for October of 2025. This project is planned to be paid with the $440,000 in funds from the solar developer, Recon Corporation, with the remaining amount through local funds. It should be noted that $133,000 of Fisher's total bid is contingency for unsuitable soils that may be encountered during the construction. Staff recommends moving forward with the bid. 03:43:38.620 --> 03:44:08.600 Is there a motion to approve? So moved. Second. Motion made by Alderman Shadle, seconded by Alderman Sellers. Discussion on the bid. Seeing none, Madam Clerk, please take the roll. Stacy? Aye. Shadle? Aye. Sanders is absent. Sellers? Aye. Clem? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Simmons? Aye. Parker? Aye. The motion passes 7-0. Item number 31 is reports of 03:44:08.600 --> 03:44:38.500 Department heads. Finance? None tonight. Public Works? Buyer? Yes, thank you, Your Honor. I know it's been a long meeting, but I feel I have the need to acknowledge and recognize two of my paramedics from a job well done. On August 14th, ambulance one was dispatched for an elderly male who, a gas station at Shell gas station on Galena, those folks thought something just isn't right 03:44:38.500 --> 03:45:08.480 with this gentleman. So our paramedics responded there. They took the time to have a discussion with the gentleman, find out why he was in our area here, where he was from, and then they looked even further to gather his name and phone number for family members. So one of the paramedics phoned police dispatch, ran the gentleman's name. It turned out that he was endangered and missing from City of Chicago for four or five days. 03:45:08.500 --> 03:45:38.380 days. He had no idea how he got out here, why he was here. So they checked him out. They phoned the gentleman's daughter. They were elated that he's finally been located and he's safe. The ambulance crew, Adam Holtz and Nathan Stepp, transported the gentleman to the hospital just to be checked out. And that's where the reunion of his family members took place. So 84-year-old gentleman disoriented didn't know how he got to Freeport from City 03:45:38.380 --> 03:45:45.940 Chicago. So those turn out to be a good outcome for the gentleman and my paramedics. Thank you. 03:45:46.900 --> 03:45:53.600 Thank you. Police? Nothing from the police department. Library? Nothing tonight. Community development? 03:45:54.320 --> 03:46:05.100 Nothing tonight, Madam Mayor. IT? Airport? City manager? Just one thing, Mayor. I just want to reflect on the 03:46:05.100 --> 03:46:11.100 the wonderful work that was done on 18th Avenue. I know it was kind of the last thing on the agenda, 03:46:11.540 --> 03:46:20.520 but that is one way the city was able to use our work with the various solar contractors to flip that 03:46:20.520 --> 03:46:25.020 around and turn that into new infrastructure. So I just want to thank all the staff that were involved 03:46:25.020 --> 03:46:30.500 with that negotiations. Excellent job. Then I just want to remind everyone about take advantage of the 03:46:30.500 --> 03:46:58.280 Tire Recycling, if that's something that it could be helpful to you, and then reminder of two events this weekend, there's Paint the Port is on Friday night, as well as Eats and Beats is Friday night and Saturday night, so two great events in the downtown at the Art Plaza and in the streets. Alderman Stacy? Nothing. Alderman Shadle? Yes, thank you. Last week, the Committee of the Whole meeting, 03:46:58.280 --> 03:47:16.100 there was mention made at public comment at the end that statements that myself and Director Steakl had made that were to quote lies and it had to do with the lift station on Walnut Road. 03:47:16.100 --> 03:47:45.780 our comments were that it was has been talked about for two years and I just wanted to mention that I did a little digging and there was a committee of the whole meeting on Monday January 9th of 2023 where there was discussion regarding Walnut Lamb Road Force Main and Lift State and a week later on Tuesday January 17th of 2023 03:47:46.100 --> 03:47:53.600 it was passed to a resolution approving engineering agreement with Fehr Graham for design services. 03:47:53.880 --> 03:47:54.860 So that's all. 03:47:54.980 --> 03:47:55.360 Thank you. 03:47:56.540 --> 03:47:57.180 Hold on, Sanders. 03:47:57.180 --> 03:48:13.120 On that particular note that I was just hearing with other issues, nothing has not been conformed 03:48:13.120 --> 03:48:13.640 completely. 03:48:13.640 --> 03:48:43.000 We have incomplete work that needs to be re-evaluated and to be studied, and I don't care how many times we talk about the subject matter, it doesn't matter, as long as we are understanding what it is that the city is trying to push the citizens of Freeport into, and we need to not only evaluate what council is doing, but we need to evaluate ourselves. 03:48:43.640 --> 03:49:13.640 as far as anything else, are we cohesive on any matter that the city might have on the agenda and do we all conform together to come to a resolution of anything? And that's what I've been sitting here for over two years now and I watched, I learned, I figured out how the game is pretty much played and we need to change our 03:49:13.640 --> 03:49:16.040 thinking, and this is why 03:49:16.040 --> 03:49:43.710 thinking. And this is why I don't know how many minutes I got, but if you shut me down, I'm going to go up to the podium and talk some more. But the thing is, we need to re-look at ourselves in the mirror every day to say, are we doing this citizens of Freeport justice? Because I sit here and I listen to lies sometimes. People flagrantly lie about things and don't come out and tell the whole truth about things. 03:49:43.710 --> 03:50:13.690 I don't call no names but the point of the matter is you know who you are and if you're not serving the people of the city of Freeport you should get off the council you should go do something else with the rest of your time and and die off into the wood and maybe grab a fishing pole or something like that and and dwindle away the rest of your life but this is how I feel at this point and I'm quite sure a lot of our constituents feel the same way are we looking at are we considering the people that we're 03:50:13.710 --> 03:50:43.430 here that voted us in here to make a decision-making, proper decision-making, you know, that's something that needs to be re-evaluated amongst ourselves, and we should ask ourselves that same very question, and you're going to hear me talk about stuff like this on occasion when I feel that we're doing things that is not in the fines of the people, and people can criticize me that stands opposition of 03:50:43.430 --> 03:51:06.710 what I'm talking about, which I don't care. I don't care about none of that stuff. It's just the fact that am I talking to the people to gain their trust about whatever I learned that I will expose to them or divulge to them so they will be as educated as I am because I'm learning. I'm learning the ropes around here, and we need to stop it. 03:51:06.710 --> 03:51:08.850 Alderman Sellers? 03:51:09.610 --> 03:51:23.530 I would just like to say I know we had a lot of people that came in and was talking about, you know, the housing and the rents and all those things, and I totally get it and I understand because I've been on both sides. 03:51:23.530 --> 03:51:33.830 I've been a single mom renting and I've also been a landlord, so I do understand, but we have no control of what people charge on their rents. 03:51:33.830 --> 03:52:03.450 that's just like if I wanted to sell my house, I don't, they can't tell me how much I can sell my house for. So I do understand and my heart goes out because I hate that it's happening, but we as city council, we cannot tell people what they can charge for rent and my heart goes out to everybody. But like I said, I've been on both sides. I've been a single mom renting and I've been a landlord. So I just wanted everybody to know that we do have, we have compassion on 03:52:03.450 --> 03:52:05.890 what's going on, but we have no control. 03:52:07.210 --> 03:52:07.730 Alderman Clem? 03:52:08.470 --> 03:52:10.390 I agree 100% with Joy. 03:52:10.510 --> 03:52:10.990 Thank you. 03:52:12.150 --> 03:52:12.970 Alderman Johnson? 03:52:14.150 --> 03:52:18.890 My heart also does go out for those that they've raised their rent on. 03:52:18.970 --> 03:52:19.790 It's a horrible thing. 03:52:21.430 --> 03:52:29.870 Also wanted to remind Second Ward, we have Neighborhood Watch Meeting at 3002 Farmdale Lane at 6.30 p.m. 03:52:29.870 --> 03:52:30.790 on Thursday evening. 03:52:31.770 --> 03:52:32.290 Alderman Simmons? 03:52:32.290 --> 03:52:39.370 Allman, Parker? Yes, just a reminder, we have our neighborhood watch next Monday night at 6 o'clock. 03:52:39.930 --> 03:53:00.190 That concludes to public comment. Okay. We probably should do the other people. Oh, yeah, I'm so sorry. She was, though, Mayor, she, well, I'm sorry, Akia. Go ahead, Dovie. 03:53:00.190 --> 03:53:29.910 You've got, oh, I am so sorry, I have an email from Carol Krupke, I've lived in Freeport my entire life, and I've lived in my current location for almost 22 years, I've lived here for so long because it's what I can afford, while at the moment I am not one of the people who are being threatened with rent increases, I would still like the members of the council, Mayor Miller, and whoever else is necessary to work on placing a rental increase 03:53:29.910 --> 03:53:47.850 cap for the residents of Freeport. Fixed incomes are just that. Fixed. With the cost of all utilities going up, a reasonable increase in rent is a desperate need. Emphasis on reasonable. Please do whatever you can to help those of us who are already struggling and just don't want to be homeless. Carol Krupke. 03:53:48.850 --> 03:53:51.150 Kia. Kia. 03:53:56.140 --> 03:54:02.480 That's what I was going to say. Before you say that you can't do nothing, you guys probably should dig and see what you can do. 03:54:02.480 --> 03:54:32.160 it's easy to get up here and say what you can't do you guys do research for everything else we had so many ordinance passed so many things looked at dug in for the benefit of the other side let's quote that it's amazing that you can get up here and honestly say that you can't do anything and you can research it you can find out exactly what's happened because whether you believe it or not this guy this guy is going to come through his plan is to get section a people from Chicago and if you think 03:54:32.480 --> 03:55:03.280 The crime rate is going to go anywhere but up. This is going to affect more than every, not just these guys. They might move next door, down the street, around the corner from all of you. Opposed to the ones that, let's say, let's see that the home rule benefited that you guys don't have to live here anymore. Or say, or whatever you do. And that means that you guys can't use home rule to benefit the community, but you can use it to say that Mayor Miller doesn't have to live here. 03:55:03.280 --> 03:55:31.280 Wayne don't have to live here, you guys can use it for all of that, and I'm so tired, let's get on another topic, I'm so tired of hearing shovel-ready sites, nobody is coming here, you gotta be rocking, nobody is coming here, this is a public online meeting, and it looks a mess, we got Darren impersonating himself as a FHM worker, we got Wayne tearing down the city for no reason at all, and we got a bunch of neighborhood watch meetings, and ain't nothing getting watched, 03:55:31.280 --> 03:56:00.800 I'm just trying to figure this out, this ain't rocket science, man, dig in and do the due diligence for the community, or like he said, get up and move around, you have something to do, you have a job to do, you work for us, they, Rob, he's such a nonchalant attitude, he don't care about nothing, nothing, you have proved that so many times, no, but you have to be inviting to walk up to, 03:56:01.280 --> 03:56:23.400 Nobody wants to talk to you. You sit up there like an angry ball right now because you're getting your name rung out. You get red every time somebody say something that you want to speak on. You have to be approachable. Nobody wants to talk to you, bro. That's just period. You have to be approachable. Not have an attitude when somebody asks you a question that you have to repeat. Repeat it. 03:56:23.400 --> 03:56:57.630 Next. My name is Cheryl Altman. My question is, why is Wayne getting, well, for 16 hours, it's $62.50 an hour. That is three to four times more than what an average person makes in this town. And it's a shame, but you guys voted for that. You're wrong. Also, $2.1 million for Pretzel City Transit. It's $3 in town, each way, out of town. 03:56:57.630 --> 03:56:59.710 It's $6 each way 03:56:59.710 --> 03:57:05.910 But the worst thing is you forgot to mention that all those vans and buses are given to the city of Freeport for free 03:57:05.910 --> 03:57:13.600 And then not even to mention all their donations because I used to drive the bus 03:57:13.600 --> 03:57:20.540 I could bring in $400 in donations every two weeks. Easy. So where's that money? 03:57:23.190 --> 03:57:27.650 The worst part is you're making that money and you got people out here ready to strike but you won't give them a raise 03:57:27.650 --> 03:57:34.150 for shame on you guys. And next, Wayne, you say that you walk through all these buildings? Wrong. 03:57:35.070 --> 03:57:40.370 You made me get an engineer, a structural engineer. You didn't like what you said because you said my 03:57:40.370 --> 03:57:47.290 building was structurally sound more than most. But yet, you sit there and going to bash and tear my 03:57:47.290 --> 03:57:53.710 place down? You got the roofs are falling in on the Raleigh building. You got freaking trees. Plus, 03:57:53.710 --> 03:58:18.030 She already got a $500,000 grant for that place. So what do you do with that? And why are we getting Elbers and sons? Because Mayor Millie, you're related to them. Your mom was an Elber. That's a conflict of interest. You have your nieces. Matter of fact, I got a picture with you and Sherry at her nephew's invitation. And I'd be glad to show it to you any day. You want to see it. 03:58:18.030 --> 03:58:56.520 you know it's really a shame that it's who you know around here and I don't know who's more smug or arrogant either you or Rob Boyer but I don't know why if we got a mayor why do we need city manager if we got him why the heck do we need you next oh I just want to introduce myself and talk a little bit about what's going on and see what we all can do to come together and help my name is Jocelyn I'm a mother and a long time Freeport resident and someone who 03:58:56.520 --> 03:59:00.080 who is now, along with many others, fighting just to keep a roof over our family's heads. 03:59:00.580 --> 03:59:04.420 First, I do want to thank you, Mayor Miller, for responding to my previous emails and suggesting 03:59:04.420 --> 03:59:09.200 that I fill out the inspection request form here at City Hall. I do appreciate the acknowledgement 03:59:09.200 --> 03:59:14.160 and the apology for my hardship, but respectfully, sympathy does nothing to... 03:59:14.160 --> 03:59:38.820 Thankfully, sympathy does nothing to provide housing. It doesn't stop evictions, and it does nothing to prevent the rent hikes that are already being enforced right now. Pied Piper Realty has taken over properties once managed by Chapman Properties and others, creating a monopoly of sorts. Many of us are now being told to sign new fixed-term leases within seven days or face a 30-day notice to vacate. The rent increases are as high as 50%. These are not proposed numbers. These are actually happening. 03:59:38.820 --> 04:00:02.200 Some families are seeing jumps in rent from $650 to $1,300 overnight. These are imposed with promises to do light maintenance. And to look further at the math, Freeport has an average wage of about $15 an hour, or roughly $2,400 a month before taxes. That's not enough to cover the rent increase, especially when you factor in groceries, utilities, childcare, gas, and healthcare. It's just not realistic. 04:00:02.200 --> 04:00:30.960 In addition to these points that I've come here to make, we are working families and we can't meet these necessary requirements. How are individuals on Social Security or fixed income supposed to do that? The point is that they can't. These requirements are designed to push people out. And understanding that there's only so much that can be done because the state of Illinois bans a rent control, it means that what's happening here is completely legal. And that's the problem. But that doesn't mean that the council is powerless. 04:00:30.960 --> 04:01:00.960 I'm here to ask you to act and urgently some things that you can do are pass a local ordinance requiring 60 or 90 days to notice before significant rent increases or lease terminations also you could conduct immediate inspections of properties with sharp rent hikes to ensure that they meet health and safety codes especially for any property raising rent by more than 10 percent you could even host a public forum with tenants and landlords so our voices are heard and to hopefully avoid the lack of actions done by landlords to help tenants with what matters to those living in these 04:01:00.960 --> 04:01:06.540 properties. My last suggestion is to pass a resolution urging the state of Illinois to lift the rent 04:01:06.540 --> 04:01:11.800 control ban and return the power to cities like ours. I'm not asking for special treatment. I'm asking for 04:01:11.800 --> 04:01:17.000 fairness for families, seniors, and working people who just want to stay in their homes, especially as 04:01:17.000 --> 04:01:22.800 we send our children back to school. We deserve better than to be pushed out of the city that 04:01:22.800 --> 04:01:41.880 we've helped build. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? Anyone else? Giving me this opportunity. 04:01:43.020 --> 04:02:05.630 I noticed I've never been here to a meeting before. Can you state your name, please? Ernestine Edmond. I've never been here to a meeting before. I've watched you guys sometime on TV, but I didn't notice that you have prayer before you begin. Is that right? I am a believer in Christ. 04:02:05.630 --> 04:02:24.150 I don't know what's going to happen from this day because my heart is just so heavy right now after seeing all those comments of people that it's going to have to leave from where they're living right now because they can't afford it. 04:02:24.150 --> 04:02:53.550 and I just want to say I'm not going to talk too long but I want to say this to all of you I stayed I stayed and I listened to all that you guys had to say and those are some important things but to me right now what's most important is not seeing kids out in the streets nowhere to go that's what hurts me that's what's important to me right now 04:02:54.150 --> 04:03:00.850 And so if you believe in the God of heaven, I want to see all of you do more than what you're doing. 04:03:03.200 --> 04:03:10.560 I know you may not can pull a string here or there, but it is something you can do as our leaders in this community. 04:03:10.560 --> 04:03:12.800 And I want to say this, and I'm done. 04:03:13.260 --> 04:03:20.320 I know that none of you are in these positions because somebody just voted you in. 04:03:21.360 --> 04:03:25.240 I know that the God of heaven allowed you to be in these positions. 04:03:25.720 --> 04:03:29.900 and he expects you to do what you're supposed to do. 04:03:30.900 --> 04:03:34.800 This is not going to be good for nobody in the city of Freeport. 04:03:35.380 --> 04:03:40.540 There's a lot of families, a lot, that has been hurt by this. 04:03:42.020 --> 04:03:45.000 And so in the days that come, you're going to feel it. 04:03:45.460 --> 04:03:47.920 We might feel it, but you're going to feel it too. 04:03:49.100 --> 04:03:51.340 And I want you to keep that in your mind, 04:03:51.340 --> 04:03:56.220 that you're not here just because somebody voted you in. 04:03:56.300 --> 04:03:58.060 You're here because God put you here. 04:03:59.200 --> 04:03:59.920 Thank you. 04:04:03.040 --> 04:04:03.880 Anyone else? 04:04:14.120 --> 04:04:16.600 Hi, my name is Sue Cook, Winchester Drive. 04:04:19.240 --> 04:04:27.400 I was home, and I was watching online, and thought, no, no, no. 04:04:28.200 --> 04:04:29.640 There are children. 04:04:29.640 --> 04:04:58.030 There were children standing here begging for their home in Freeport. We've never been a distressed city before. Don, you know that. This city was flourishing and beautiful and huge and good, and there were homes and places for people. 04:04:58.030 --> 04:05:06.650 there were not children standing in front of the city council begging for their homes. 04:05:09.100 --> 04:05:11.400 I know you can't do anything with the landlords. 04:05:11.660 --> 04:05:12.880 You can talk to them. 04:05:12.940 --> 04:05:14.400 I know you can talk to them, Rob. 04:05:14.420 --> 04:05:15.200 I know you can. 04:05:16.880 --> 04:05:28.700 You may not be able to tell them where, excuse me, to put or how much to charge, but you can 04:05:28.700 --> 04:05:59.990 keep the kids and these people in their homes. You can. You're powerful. You cannot say that you're a pastor and not be able to do this. You are powerful. You are the city of Freeport Council. You are powerful. And Freeport cannot be distressed. And here we stand distressed. The second thing, for God's sakes, for the people that are disabled, 04:06:00.010 --> 04:06:27.140 are disabled in this town. Don't take 911 away from them. Rob, give them the five bucks. Five bucks are a life. Five bucks are a life. It could be my husband. It could be me. It could be CeCe. It could be the mayor. We've had head-ons. Here I am crying. I'm sorry. I'm really sorry. But we've had head-ons. We've had multiple head-ons. 04:06:27.140 --> 04:06:57.120 I've driven that road I've had to drive off the road to avoid head-ons guys we can't have no 911 in Freeport we can't have roads where our cars go into the potholes and we have to pay $3,200 for an undercarriage which has happened we can't be distressed and we can't let kids be out in the street and these people lose their homes we just can't because we're Freeport we never 04:06:57.120 --> 04:07:38.130 We never were distressed, Jodi. Excuse me, Mayor Miller, we never were distressed. We never were distressed. We don't have to be distressed now. Thank you for letting me stand here and cry. I'm very sorry. Anyone else? Yeah, I'd like to make a public comment. Well, then you have to get up to the podium. Do I? You want to speak as a citizen. That's the protocol? Yeah, it's a public comment. Okay. That's time. 04:07:38.290 --> 04:08:14.500 but I feel the compassion of those that are in distress and if we have a heart or any empathy for what the community brought to us tonight, we should look, like I said earlier, we should conform as council people for the greater good of the people. 04:08:14.500 --> 04:08:36.340 We should conform to come together on a topic issue that is hurting folk. If it's hurting people within our community, we should stand up and lend our voice to all of the causes and distress and the anxiety that folks are going through because of this one particular issue. 04:08:36.340 --> 04:08:48.440 I'd like to see us all gather together, have an executive meeting on issues. It doesn't have to be executive. It could be the whole force of the city of Freeport. 04:08:49.660 --> 04:09:03.560 Having a common cause to rectify something that we have, as they say, the power we have to come together to help folk who are having issues. 04:09:03.560 --> 04:09:11.180 I'm like this woman, I'm about to shed tears because of what we're lack of doing. 04:09:11.180 --> 04:09:39.980 We're lack of doing. And that we have, they voted us to make sure, voted us in to make sure that the accommodation of people can be taken care of. We have avenues. We have pathways. We have areas that we can go into to seek out whatever it is that our community needs. And the fact that they don't know, they're not educated to finding these 04:09:39.980 --> 04:10:09.960 We're not lending our opportunity to help establish any programs that actually help people. I have not heard anything from our council that talks about a program that can benefit everyone that has a desire to want to better themselves in this community. I don't want to see people talking about I'm going to be homeless. How do you come to the 04:10:09.960 --> 04:10:17.600 Council of Freeport and someone standing before you talking about I'm losing everything and I don't have no place to go. 04:10:18.000 --> 04:10:27.940 How could we just sit in our seat and after we adjourn tonight have no way of talking to one another, calling each other up, say, hey, we need to get up. 04:10:27.940 --> 04:10:37.620 We need to have a hall, a town hall meeting or some form or something to talk about that helps to help people. 04:10:37.620 --> 04:11:05.560 I'm talking and if there's something like that going on, everybody should be involved. Your time has expired. Thank you. Anyone else? Seeing Cecelia. Yes, I think that would be an exception. You know, I don't know what we can do. I know that there's things that we have to do. I know that there's apartments out there 04:11:05.560 --> 04:11:35.080 that's not worth half of what they were already charging, and to go up double is ridiculous, but as renters you have rights, and you have the right, I don't know, we might need inspectors to come in and look at these houses because they have to be valued at a level to be charged what they're charging. 04:11:35.560 --> 04:12:04.260 and so I don't know what we can or can't do. I'm going to find out what we can or can't do but one thing I know how to do and that's pray. So Father God in the name of Jesus hear the hearts and the cries of your people. Father God make a way out of no way. We're looking to you for a miracle. 04:12:04.260 --> 04:12:08.340 Yeah, you change it's not. 04:12:09.500 --> 04:12:32.420 So just like you fed many with five fish and two loaves of bread, I'm asking you to work a miracle in this city on behalf of these, your children, your people. 04:12:32.420 --> 04:13:10.860 help us as a council to do any and everything we can do to make that difference, to show ourselves strong, to show the value we have and the value that we carry. Give us the words to say and the ability to do what needs to be done and we'll be sure to give you all honor, glory and praise in advance for victory is ours. 04:13:11.440 --> 04:13:21.900 and I stand on that in Jesus name. Amen. Is there any other public comments? I'll entertain a motion for 04:13:21.900 --> 04:13:28.610 adjournment. So moved. Second. We have a motion made by Shadle, seconded by Parker. All those in favor 04:13:28.610 --> 04:13:31.390 signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Have a good night.