WEBVTT 00:00:02.100 --> 00:00:07.940 All right, six o'clock, we're going to call a meeting to order. 2.0, prayer, James, Fricke. 00:00:09.360 --> 00:00:26.680 Heavenly Father, we thank you for each member here this evening. We ask that you would guide us through the decisions that we make. Thank you for the wisdom of this table, and we just ask that you would guide us through decisions. You can bless each member to save you from Jesus' name. Amen. 00:00:26.680 --> 00:00:55.440 vote. 3.0, approval of tonight's agenda. Do I have a motion to approve? Motion. Mr. Dins, do I have a second? Larry, any discussion on tonight's agenda? Seeing none, all of those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Review and approval of meeting minutes from August 17th. If you all had an opportunity to redo them, does anybody have a motion? If not, I need a motion to approve. 00:00:55.440 --> 00:00:58.120 Vice, Cindy, do we have a second? 00:00:58.660 --> 00:00:59.020 Second. 00:00:59.580 --> 00:01:01.940 Vice, Mr. DeNins, any discussion on meeting minutes? 00:01:03.900 --> 00:01:05.900 Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:06.320 Aye. 00:01:06.320 --> 00:01:07.040 Opposed. 00:01:07.360 --> 00:01:08.060 Motion carries. 00:01:08.600 --> 00:01:18.440 Approval of claims totaling in the amount of cash requirements $1,242,539.49. 00:01:19.100 --> 00:01:20.580 Do we have a motion to approve? 00:01:24.440 --> 00:01:24.880 34. 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:25.720 34. 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:26.360 Sorry. 00:01:26.700 --> 00:01:27.020 34. 00:01:27.020 --> 00:01:27.820 I just had to see it. 00:01:27.980 --> 00:01:28.220 Okay. 00:01:28.380 --> 00:01:28.780 I was excited. 00:01:28.860 --> 00:01:31.180 Sure, I'll make it, sure. 00:01:31.460 --> 00:01:32.820 Larry, do I have a second? 00:01:33.140 --> 00:01:35.100 Mr. Demons, any discussion on claims? 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:39.540 Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. 00:01:39.780 --> 00:01:39.920 Aye. 00:01:40.300 --> 00:01:40.780 Both? 00:01:41.440 --> 00:01:42.120 Motion carries. 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:55.260 5.0 or 5.1, approval of claims for court services, totaling in the amount of cash requirements and manuals, $49,407.50. 00:01:55.960 --> 00:01:57.540 Do we have a motion to approve? 00:01:57.540 --> 00:01:59.180 I want you to make that motion. 00:01:59.180 --> 00:02:00.580 And Mr. DeNins, do we have a second? 00:02:01.900 --> 00:02:02.420 I'll say. 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:05.700 Cindy, any discussion on Fort Souris' claims? 00:02:07.260 --> 00:02:08.880 Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. 00:02:09.100 --> 00:02:09.420 Aye. 00:02:09.900 --> 00:02:10.340 Opposed? 00:02:10.760 --> 00:02:11.520 Motion carries. 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:13.580 6.0 public comment. 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:22.200 Seeing none, moving on 7.0 reports to the committee, 7.1 Diamond Brothers. 00:02:24.590 --> 00:02:25.530 Good evening. 00:02:26.570 --> 00:02:27.570 Good to see you all. 00:02:27.570 --> 00:02:31.490 I am here to talk about the benefits renewal. 00:02:31.990 --> 00:02:34.330 will not be talking about the property casualty renewal. 00:02:34.570 --> 00:02:36.650 We will have to kick that over to October. 00:02:37.370 --> 00:02:42.190 So I will start on page three of the presentation that should be in your board packet 00:02:42.190 --> 00:02:45.990 and go through a couple of things. 00:02:49.990 --> 00:02:52.330 Unless anyone needs it on the screen. 00:02:52.890 --> 00:02:53.510 I don't need this. 00:02:54.870 --> 00:02:57.670 The EASE online open enrollment system, 00:02:57.790 --> 00:03:01.410 the system we use to administer the benefits for employees 00:03:01.410 --> 00:03:12.010 that is a software portal that is used to enroll employees for the annual open enrollment period as well as make any changes, ads, deletes, et cetera. 00:03:12.490 --> 00:03:15.570 That is migrating to Employee Navigator once and for all. 00:03:15.670 --> 00:03:17.570 We've been hearing about it for the last three years. 00:03:18.010 --> 00:03:21.630 That will finally happen next year. 00:03:22.490 --> 00:03:28.190 We do need to spend some money to have an IT third party build that system for us. 00:03:28.190 --> 00:03:34.570 Employee Navigator did buy these, but he's moving it, migrating it from east to Employee Navigator 00:03:34.570 --> 00:03:36.470 has proven to be quite the undertaking. 00:03:36.730 --> 00:03:43.130 So there'll be a $700 charge for the county to move from the student to Employee Navigator. 00:03:43.870 --> 00:03:46.330 And that will be done next spring. 00:03:46.330 --> 00:03:53.270 So it is far and away out of the open and open period, which we'll have, I'll talk about 00:03:53.270 --> 00:03:54.190 there, which will be later. 00:03:54.990 --> 00:03:55.950 Just a heads up. 00:03:55.950 --> 00:04:10.430 I'm going to talk about the benefits, medical and dental ancillary, which is every other benefit they have, the employees have, that is on a rate guaranteed through 2027, so I'm not going to do that. I'm also going to talk about Mapper. 00:04:10.430 --> 00:04:14.190 Next page, page four 00:04:14.190 --> 00:04:20.110 You can always go out to market to solicit votes for the benefits 00:04:20.110 --> 00:04:26.270 and I'm not surprised that we received votes back that were not competitive 00:04:26.270 --> 00:04:28.910 based on the new cross-bishop fully insured renewal 00:04:28.910 --> 00:04:31.270 So I will be talking about that in a moment 00:04:31.270 --> 00:04:37.170 I do not expect the local government plan to come back with anything competitive 00:04:37.170 --> 00:04:38.750 I have not received a vote back 00:04:38.750 --> 00:05:06.310 Don't expect that to be anything but shadow. Any questions on that? Page 5. This is very difficult to read at the very bottom. You will see that the Blue Cross Blue Shield dental renewal is the exact same dollar amount as last year. So I will be recommending later to go ahead and keep that. By keeping the dental with Blue Cross Blue Shield, we get a 2% discount on the medical. And I will talk to you about in a minute. 00:05:06.310 --> 00:05:09.350 is kind of highlighting that here really quick. 00:05:09.790 --> 00:05:15.170 No changes in coverages, no changes in deductibles, no changes in the same, which is good news. 00:05:16.230 --> 00:05:16.790 Any questions? 00:05:19.830 --> 00:05:24.890 Medical plans, this is a history of the medical plans going back to 2024. 00:05:25.970 --> 00:05:32.070 We've had $1,000, $1,500, $2,500, $3,500 deductibles back in 2024. 00:05:32.070 --> 00:05:52.010 You will see the pattern here, the history in that deductibles will eventually start ticking up each year, and they started doing that in 2025, where the $1,500 deductible ticked up to $1,800. What that means is blue cost does not offer anything lower in that category. 00:05:52.010 --> 00:06:14.970 So 2026, you'll see that the $2,500 deductible inched up to $2,750. If we go to the next page, page 7, the 2027 plans, no surprise, the $1,000 deductible now is $1,250. If you could scroll back on, I'm sorry. 00:06:14.970 --> 00:06:33.350 Okay. You will also notice that the number of employees on the plans have gone down 193 those first two years, down to 173 this year. And then for 2027, it's projected to be 166. That has to do with the jettison of the nursing center. 00:06:33.350 --> 00:06:46.860 Okay. You should have a second document set of documents with your packet that the first page looks like this. If I could ask you to put that on your screens. 00:06:48.140 --> 00:06:48.780 Okay. 00:06:49.460 --> 00:07:04.580 What this 20 page document does is show in detail side by side what the difference is in plan. So not only, for example, the first plan last year, the deductible was 1000. This year it's 12. 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:34.000 1250. Carrie, I don't see that. I don't have to see this. I can send it again. I don't know if there was a issue with it. So we can look at it on the screen here. That's what I'm looking at. Okay. In this, on the right side will be highlighted in yellow the other differences in the plans. So not only for this plan, the deductible bills from $1,000 to $1,250, the 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:42.800 and family deductibles are also taking up. Not a surprise. This is kind of how things go with these health plans. 00:07:45.620 --> 00:07:59.200 I'm just kind of going to scroll through this kind of quickly because there are a lot of changes. Just know overall, the changes in the individual plans are higher deductibles for two of them and then some higher code base. 00:07:59.200 --> 00:08:28.700 and we can scroll through that kind of quickly also on here in the top left corner you'll see the pricing I will talk about total pricing in a minute but in detail what we will do assuming the board does approve this renewal and the county board approves it at open enrollment myself and my account manager will have this document and we can send it to all of the employees so that they can digest it and read it ahead of open enrollment. 00:08:29.200 --> 00:08:37.400 and then myself and my assistant will be meeting with individual employees if they need to, to talk them through what this means for them and their duties. 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:39.600 Any questions so far? 00:08:45.820 --> 00:08:48.120 I'm not going to spend a whole lot of time on here. 00:08:48.820 --> 00:08:54.760 Just know that there's a couple of hundred dollar increases in all of the cabins, basically, for this particular. 00:08:54.760 --> 00:09:09.590 There is a plan that has no change, and that is the $1,800 HSA, which is this one, no changes at all except for cost, so I'll let you see that one. 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:29.650 The next one will be the $2,750. Again, that used to be a $2,500 deductible. Sorry, that's the same. Again, $2,750 is the same. Some changes are 00:09:29.650 --> 00:09:50.800 And then the fourth plan is the $3,500 plan, the $3,500 deductible does stay the same, there are a couple of differences in terms of out-of-pocket, sorry, I've seen three bucks. 00:09:53.800 --> 00:09:57.240 You can go back to 00:09:57.240 --> 00:09:58.240 Thank you. 00:09:58.240 --> 00:09:59.240 Thank you. 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:00.240 Thank you. 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:01.240 All right. 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:25.990 Yeah. So the good news is that the plan costs only went up 8% this year. That is a gigantic win for the county. In the last three years, the increases have been in the teens to almost 20% each year. Blue Cross to Shield tells us that the reasonings are there in those bulleted points. 00:10:25.990 --> 00:10:36.090 net claims have decreased and large claimants have definitely decreased and the loss ratios are 00:10:36.090 --> 00:10:45.050 coming down consistently so therefore the increase that they asked for was only originally 10% but when 00:10:45.050 --> 00:10:51.470 we're putting in the dental that gives you a 2% discount but the increase is around 8.7%. 00:10:51.470 --> 00:11:12.970 there too. Any questions on that so far? I kind of flew through that pretty quickly. I want to make sure everybody understands that. This is just a chart kind of showing, again, the biggest, one of the biggest drivers of cost, and this is real, I'm just in care of it. 00:11:12.970 --> 00:11:35.750 picture. Yeah. Our high cost claimants. These are just that high cost claims. So that amount from last year to this year has decreased considerably. And so that's what's driving the less, the increase that is not as high as we've seen in last year. 00:11:39.700 --> 00:11:43.880 Skip that page, but I'm going to go over here. 00:11:43.880 --> 00:12:10.440 I want to talk about Mapper. I personally think that Mapper is making a difference. Two things that are the biggest drivers. One, that's the number of high cost payments on the plan that has been carrying the last two years. I've been around 14 or 15 or 16. Now that number is down to 10. So that helps a lot in terms of the cost of claims, both on the medical side, as well as on the prescription side. 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:31.760 If you called last year, you approved the MAPR program. At the time we approved it, it was RxMAPR. This is a genetic testing to where you send email campaigns to employees asking, hey, are you struggling with your meds? Are you struggling with your conditions? If so, call this number and they're interviewed by a clinician. 00:12:31.760 --> 00:12:55.400 So the board approved up to 10 people to participate in the RS MAPR program. To date, six members are participating. And the savings year to date is $67,000, which we're really, really proud of. I think that will continue to increase as we get more people in the plan. 00:12:55.400 --> 00:13:04.940 A total of eight people have followed the number and six have been determined good candidates and six candidates are in the RxMapper plan. 00:13:04.940 --> 00:13:17.200 The RxMapper plan to review is if you're determined you're a good candidate, you get sent a kit where you swab your teeth and your DNA is sequenced. 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:31.380 and your DNA is compared to you can look at your profile and what medications you're taking and they make sure that the medications you're on are good for you individually for your particular DNA. 00:13:32.140 --> 00:13:38.740 Two people sitting right next to each other can be on the same exact drug and might be working well for one and not the other because of their DNA. 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:46.860 And so this shows that, hey, six people were sequenced and they of all the six, they have eight different conditions that have been modeled. 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:58.520 and so that changes in medications and protocols have been recommended and they're only spending $67,000 less than they normally put back. 00:13:59.940 --> 00:14:11.720 So that is about 6-7x return on investment. Again, we've only spent $7,700 year to date for a savings of $67,000. 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:21.060 so really happy with that. Mid-year Mapper came out with DX Mapper so there's an RX portion and a DX portion 00:14:21.060 --> 00:14:27.700 because we're paying for this we get both so we just rolled that out a couple of weeks ago in August to 00:14:27.700 --> 00:14:36.560 employee needs. DX Mapper is a voluntary program to where any employee or their dependent can say hey 00:14:36.560 --> 00:14:45.220 I want my DNA sequenced and they have a program that the DNA there's 11 conditions that are 00:14:45.220 --> 00:14:50.860 life-threatening that if your DNA shows that you have a propensity to get colon cancer, breast 00:14:50.860 --> 00:14:58.660 cancer, prostate cancer, it can identify that way earlier than when symptoms show up. So this is what 00:14:58.660 --> 00:15:04.480 I'm really, really, really excited about. I think this will be a huge impact to the county if we can 00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:10.680 get as many people on this as possible. The best quick example I'll show you, and again, if you did 00:15:10.680 --> 00:15:19.580 hopefully watch the eight-minute video I sent, you guys watched it. If you haven't watched it, I encourage 00:15:19.580 --> 00:15:24.620 you to watch it. I am not doing it justice. They will talk about everything in detail, but I'll give 00:15:24.620 --> 00:15:32.120 you a quick example. Medical protocols are people start getting colonoscopies screened for colon cancer 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:38.760 are at age 45 or 50. And that's if you need to go. If your DNA proves that you have a propensity to get 00:15:38.760 --> 00:15:46.120 colon cancer, let's say at age 32, then your doctor could order a colonoscopy and you can catch colon 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:53.040 cancer way earlier than you would if you were at age 45, 55, or 65. That's just one. There's breast cancer, 00:15:53.040 --> 00:15:58.520 there's heart failure, there's diabetes, Alzheimer's disease, and they're adding more and more diseases 00:15:58.520 --> 00:16:06.120 to the list that, you know, every day. Once your DNA is mapped, they have it forever and any disease that's 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:11.500 added to the list, the automatic will flag it if your DNA says that you have a good density to get this 00:16:11.500 --> 00:16:20.980 decision. The cost is $250 per person and that is born wholly right now by the employee. Because we 00:16:20.980 --> 00:16:25.560 have the macro program in place that is offsetting that cost, that cost is more worth probably $1,200. 00:16:25.560 --> 00:16:32.340 So, I just wanted to kind of go through that program here real quick 00:16:32.340 --> 00:16:37.380 If you could, slide nine 00:16:37.380 --> 00:16:40.200 Any questions on the MAPA program? 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:46.000 Gary, if, back to the RX program 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:51.740 If they say you could be on a different medication or should be on a different medication 00:16:51.740 --> 00:16:55.400 Is it up to the employee that, what do they change? 00:16:55.400 --> 00:16:59.740 for you? They work in conjunction with their doctor. So they're going to meet with the clinician 00:16:59.740 --> 00:17:06.600 of MAPR, and they have a portal, and they have everything in it. And then the clinician, and then 00:17:06.600 --> 00:17:12.940 if it's whatever it is, say, hey, you're on drug A, we recommend drug B. Or if you're on this dose, 00:17:13.080 --> 00:17:17.600 we recommend this dose. They take that report and that information to their doctor and review it with 00:17:17.600 --> 00:17:23.660 their doctor. Their doctor and the clinician can also talk, get on the phone, email, and work together 00:17:23.660 --> 00:17:29.180 in that case. So they work in tandem and in partnership. And so that's the case for six people 00:17:29.180 --> 00:17:41.680 counting. So the medical renewal, the premium this year will be around $4.5 million. That's that top 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:47.440 figure. Calculated renewal is about 4.9, so a 10% increase. 00:17:47.440 --> 00:18:07.980 as well, just a little bit, because we're implementing Blue Cross Blue Shield Dental, there's a 2% discount, so the total projected cost for the county, sorry, not for the county, for county and employee, it means it's 4.8 million is changed, so only an 8% and change in things. 00:18:07.980 --> 00:18:10.760 Again, no one likes an increase 00:18:10.760 --> 00:18:14.880 And when I'm saying an 8% increase is a good deal 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:21.580 It is because the last three years the increases in health insurance have gone up from the teens to up to 20% 00:18:21.580 --> 00:18:30.160 So we are extremely happy and we do think that the employees are getting more engaged, getting more educated 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:34.140 Taking a little bit more ownership of their health 00:18:34.140 --> 00:18:38.460 and I do think this matter of health will really, really help me here. 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:40.840 I think we're just beginning to see that. 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:52.000 So I recommend we implement or go with renew with Blue Cross on both potential and medical. 00:18:53.480 --> 00:19:02.400 And also the county contributes HSA money to HSA accounts. 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:03.800 I recommend we continue that. 00:19:03.800 --> 00:19:33.280 One thing I did want to talk about is do we want to talk about for the coming year, perhaps the county kicks in towards that $250 DX Maverick piece for that voluntary piece to encourage folks to go ahead and get Maverick and have only interventions for these chronic or life-threatening conditions that need to be able to help. 00:19:33.800 --> 00:19:56.260 Again, the Rx Mapper Program, if you need the $2.50 as a voluntary employee paid benefit, cost is $2.75 per employee per month, which is about $5,400 a year. And if up to 10 folks get sequenced, that's another $2,500. So we're looking at about $8,000. 00:19:56.260 --> 00:20:18.660 if you keep the program as we have it structured today. That's option A. Option B is to kick in some county money to encourage folks to do the defense portion of that work. And I'm open to suggestions to anywhere from 25, 50, 100, or the whole 250 you have in the budget. 00:20:18.660 --> 00:20:44.620 If you paid $250 for every employee on the plan, which there's about 169 employees right now, just employee only, that would cost the county $42,000. So you could look at it in total, or you can say, hey, let's kick in $25,000 until that's eaten up, so you can structure it any way you want. 00:20:44.620 --> 00:20:57.980 but I would offer that it would be a good idea to encourage employees to participate and you can encourage employees to participate by paying for all of someone. 00:21:10.040 --> 00:21:11.820 I kind of threw a lot at you. 00:21:12.580 --> 00:21:13.560 Is there any questions? 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:25.870 So I think I'll break it down here. 00:21:26.170 --> 00:21:49.290 For discussion purposes, I recommend renewing accrued costs per shield for both medical and dental, keep it as is, keep all the court plans as is, the rest of your coverage is life insurance, disability, and all the other ancillary states the same, we're in a rate guarantee through next year, so we don't have to discuss that. 00:21:49.290 --> 00:22:03.850 The Mapper Program, I recommend implementing it at least at the same level as we do this year, and perhaps we open it up for discussion to have the county kick in some money to encourage more people to participate. 00:22:05.210 --> 00:22:09.750 We just kicked off the DX Mapper here, like I said, a couple of weeks ago. 00:22:09.750 --> 00:22:17.090 I don't know if the board's been out long enough for kind of giving it a couple of months 00:22:17.090 --> 00:22:20.710 and it involves doing not have anyone doing the effort. 00:22:27.050 --> 00:22:32.800 Questions? 00:22:34.100 --> 00:22:38.840 Should we wait and do the discussion more towards the rainbows? 00:22:38.840 --> 00:22:51.660 So if whatever you decide today will go to the county board Thursday, you could table mapper. 00:22:51.660 --> 00:22:59.140 I don't know. I don't know how you would structure this, but that's kind of what you guys can structure 00:22:59.140 --> 00:23:01.180 for the approval process. 00:23:07.040 --> 00:23:16.900 I mean, I meant more talking more in-depth about it when we get down to the bottom of the agenda for today's meeting. 00:23:17.340 --> 00:23:17.860 Sure. 00:23:18.220 --> 00:23:23.240 So, to you, the way that you think about it, that's correct. 00:23:23.240 --> 00:23:31.320 IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER RIGHT NOW? 00:23:31.320 --> 00:23:53.100 NEW SPEAKER 1 I WAS TO SAY, JUST IN DISCUSSING IT, I'VE HAD MEETINGS, BUT THE FEEDBACK THAT'S I'VE GOTTEN ON THE Rx MAPPER, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TAKEN PART OF IT ARE HAPPY WITH BEING INVOLVED IN IT, THERE'S BEEN THIS JUST ROLLED OUT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WHERE THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S 00:23:53.100 --> 00:24:21.860 more of an option. I would say people were apprehensive not knowing what renewal was going to look like as far as committing to it. But I would say, you know, we saw the premiums going in the right direction or the claims going in the right direction for the first time in a while. And if six people on that made that much of a difference, and this could potentially show more savings, I do think it's worth a good discussion on considering that. 00:24:27.070 --> 00:24:49.280 I think, yeah, if you want to put numbers to it, the health insurance going up 8%, it comes 00:24:49.280 --> 00:24:53.920 down to budgeted numbers, that's where you think the most bang for your buck is going to 00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:59.240 begin. Like I said, here's an example. If you decided, you know what, we are going to pay 00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:05.400 for all employees to participate, but employees only, it's $169, give or take, that's $42,000. 00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:12.500 So take that number and maybe you say, yeah, if you don't really want to spend $42,000, 00:25:12.600 --> 00:25:14.300 we only want to spend $20,000, $25,000. 00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:20.480 And the first X number of people who participate until that $25,000 is gone, you can do it that 00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:20.760 way. 00:25:22.760 --> 00:25:23.600 Justin, I don't. 00:25:24.360 --> 00:25:25.900 It's hard to conceptualize. 00:25:25.900 --> 00:25:31.920 I think you're probably trying to conceptualize, well, what does this mean in terms of it's an awesome action. 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:36.840 So were we had budgeted for like a $4 million number? 00:25:38.660 --> 00:25:41.900 At first we were expecting around 18%. 00:25:43.120 --> 00:25:45.320 So that's what we had budgeted originally. 00:25:46.140 --> 00:25:50.580 I had Carrie guaranteed that would be under $5 million and she delivered. 00:25:50.580 --> 00:26:17.160 So I do think that with our loss ratio going in the right direction, I think that right now we're gaining momentum with our wellness screenings and our walking program. I feel like just adding things like this would be beneficial and keep us moving in the right direction. 00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:24.080 and we can take a look at the budget I plan to kind of address all of that in a little bit. 00:26:27.970 --> 00:26:32.510 On the $42,000 numbers, just if everybody bought in. 00:26:32.770 --> 00:26:34.570 If everyone participated, exactly. 00:26:35.370 --> 00:26:35.590 Sorry. 00:26:36.870 --> 00:26:41.590 It's voluntary regardless if it's paid for by the employee or the employer. 00:26:42.650 --> 00:26:43.690 You don't have to. 00:26:44.030 --> 00:26:45.070 You don't want to do what you want to do. 00:26:46.830 --> 00:26:49.630 So now at all, $169,000 for this $1,000,000. 00:26:49.630 --> 00:26:57.890 Okay, any additional questions or query at this point? 00:26:57.890 --> 00:27:05.410 All right, 7.2, counting motion. 00:27:06.470 --> 00:27:11.870 I will be short and sweet with everything you have on the agenda. Update just from those 00:27:11.870 --> 00:27:19.730 who didn't hear my report at Edmond, the Nursing Center report case was continued to October 21st. 00:27:20.270 --> 00:27:27.090 There are no upcoming land bank meetings scheduled, but those are kind of up when things come up, they reach out to schedule those. 00:27:28.190 --> 00:27:35.830 Obviously, I'm just here to present the audit, and I've been working with Carrie on the renewals that will be good to spot the next month. 00:27:35.830 --> 00:27:59.850 One thing is our county was chosen for an IMRF audit, which has not happened in 12 years, so it's the last time Stevenson County was audited, but we were randomly selected earlier this year, and Marianne has been working on that as the authorized agent back and forth with the IMRF auditor since January. 00:27:59.850 --> 00:28:18.490 Right. There's been a lot of correspondence back and forth recently and kind of special thanks to her for doing all of that, but it's close to being wrapped up. So good news on that. That and animal control, still working on getting the new facility ready for the red pedigree. 00:28:18.490 --> 00:28:23.270 All right. Any questions for the county administrator? 00:28:26.810 --> 00:28:29.750 Cindy, none. 7.3, finance director. 00:28:30.570 --> 00:28:36.310 I really do not have to report tonight outside of budget and audit. I feel I'm hearing enough from you later, so. 00:28:36.310 --> 00:28:49.110 All right. 7.4 is the treasurer's report. Stephanie was only able to make it tonight. She did send out her email. If anybody has any questions, please feel free to reach out to her. 00:28:49.830 --> 00:29:00.270 8.0, old business, there is no old business, so 9.0, new business, 9.1, presentation of the FY25 audit. 00:29:00.990 --> 00:29:01.870 We have loads in here. 00:29:02.210 --> 00:29:10.850 All right, all right, well, thank you for inviting me to your meeting tonight to present to you the results of the audit of Stevenson County for your end of December 31st, 2025. 00:29:12.330 --> 00:29:15.070 Looks like you kind of got a pile of different reports in front of you. 00:29:15.070 --> 00:29:20.170 My comments will focus on the annual financial reports, that's the thickest of the reports you have in front of you 00:29:20.170 --> 00:29:27.430 So our audit was conducted in accordance with generally accepted auditing standards as well as government auditing standards 00:29:27.430 --> 00:29:34.050 And the purpose of the annual audit is to express an opinion on whether the county's financial statements were fairly stated 00:29:34.050 --> 00:29:38.410 And to consider a financial reporting with compliance and laws and regulations 00:29:38.410 --> 00:29:44.370 So flipping into that report, a couple pages in you'll come to the independent auditor's report 00:29:44.370 --> 00:29:55.870 it's on second Flutterhead. It's page number one. Please to inform that Stevenson County received an unmodified opinion on the financial statements for the year end of December. 00:29:55.870 --> 00:30:11.560 financial statements for the year end of December 31st, 2025. An unmodifiable opinion is also referred to as a clean audit opinion, so that's the type of outcome that you will want as a result of your audit. This means that the financial statements are presented fairly in all material respects and, of course, is generally accepted accounting principles. 00:30:11.560 --> 00:30:17.400 On the bottom of page one, there is an emphasis of matter that I just wanted to make sure that I 00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:23.520 pointed out as well. We did have some prior year restatements as a result of our audit in this year, 00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:29.540 specifically related to some nursing home accounts payables that dated back to, I think, 00:30:29.540 --> 00:30:36.140 2023 was one of them, but there was about $130,000 of payables from the nursing home that should have 00:30:36.140 --> 00:30:39.380 reported in the prior year that were not reported. 00:30:39.580 --> 00:30:43.800 So we did state our opening net positions for your nursing home funds for that amount. 00:30:48.170 --> 00:30:50.970 If you flip forward a few more pages, you'll come to page number five. 00:30:51.070 --> 00:30:53.530 So this is another opinion on second letterhead. 00:30:53.530 --> 00:30:58.210 This is our report on internal control over financial reporting and compliance. 00:30:59.010 --> 00:31:05.450 So this second opinion is required due to the amount of state and federal funding that the county spends on a manual basis. 00:31:05.450 --> 00:31:32.170 The result of this opinion is that we did report three material weaknesses, which is down from four material weaknesses in the prior year. So one item had been addressed from previous years. So aside from those weaknesses and internal control, we noted no non-compliance with laws or regulations or grant agreements. So the result of that, again, so no non-compliance, we did have some internal control recommendations. And those start on page number seven. 00:31:32.170 --> 00:32:02.150 so the first relates to material audit adjustments so during the audit we did propose several financial statement adjustments in order to properly report the financial statements and of course of generally accepted accounting principles because as auditors we can't be considered to be a part of your internal control whenever we report a material audit adjustment that automatically means that there is material with this internal control because the auditors are making those materials 00:32:02.170 --> 00:32:08.690 adjustments. So that is a repeat finding from the previous years. The next relates to capital assets. 00:32:10.210 --> 00:32:18.030 We've seen progress on this one, but still not seeing like a full comprehensive centralized capital 00:32:18.030 --> 00:32:23.190 asset listing that's maintained by the county. It's been kind of a project where it's been piecemealing 00:32:23.190 --> 00:32:28.430 different capital assets from different departments in order to properly record the capital assets 00:32:28.430 --> 00:32:34.150 related depreciation. So I will say we have seen some progress on this one. It is still repeated as a 00:32:34.150 --> 00:32:38.990 material weakness this year, but we'll analyze that one again next year just to determine how that should 00:32:38.990 --> 00:32:43.130 be classified as we consider that to be implemented if we want to repeat it again in future years. 00:32:44.690 --> 00:32:51.230 And then page number eight relates to nursing home payables. So again, just as you're aware, 00:32:51.890 --> 00:32:57.610 there have been issues with paying invoices on time, and because of that, invoices hadn't been 00:32:57.610 --> 00:33:01.670 entered into your system because you generally only enter them into your accounting system once you're 00:33:01.670 --> 00:33:06.670 going to pay them. So essentially, the nursing home payables were maintained like off look, if you will. 00:33:07.190 --> 00:33:12.250 So there were just adjustments required to have your financial statements agree to the accounts payable 00:33:12.250 --> 00:33:19.970 listing. And then since we did have that prior year restatement for nursing home payables, we did repeat 00:33:19.970 --> 00:33:25.070 this as material weakness again this year. And again, as things are winding down there, this is 00:33:25.070 --> 00:33:30.030 something that I anticipate, you know, may not be repeated in future years, but is repeated for 00:33:30.030 --> 00:33:37.670 December 31st, 2025. The next page from there is just your prior year findings. So again, you have the 00:33:37.670 --> 00:33:43.930 same three who were repeated from the prior year. There was one finding in the prior year related to 00:33:43.930 --> 00:33:49.930 nursing home receivables and how those were accounted for. Since those operations are no longer being 00:33:49.930 --> 00:34:17.050 being maintained by the county, that comment had been implemented. So down from, you know, four comments in the previous year down to three this year. And I do anticipate, you know, a couple of those are pretty close to being implemented in future years as well. From now, we'll go over a few financial highlights. So page 13 and 14 is your statement of net position. So this is kind of a high-level view of the county's financial picture. 00:34:17.050 --> 00:34:25.110 This schedule here is not really used in day-to-day operations, but it's required to be presented to get that unmodified opinion. 00:34:25.430 --> 00:34:30.530 So this schedule includes things like capital assets as well as any long-term debt. 00:34:31.190 --> 00:34:34.330 So the focus here would be on page 14, your total net position. 00:34:34.650 --> 00:34:43.330 So your governmental activities, which is pretty much all bonds aside from your nursing center fund, had total net position of $48.4 million. 00:34:43.330 --> 00:35:13.070 of that amount, you had an investment in capital assets, so $17.8 million of that net position is just the value of your capital assets, less any debt that was taken out to purchase or acquire those capital assets, and then you have net position that's restricted for various other purposes, generally due to tax levy or other restrictions on how those funds can be spent, which brings you to an unrestricted balance, which is anything that's left over that's not restricted for certain purposes. 00:35:13.330 --> 00:35:35.520 and that amounts about $7.9 billion. Business-type activities against your nursing home center fund and I will cover that in a few pages here when it's a little bit easier to read. A couple pages don't work from here. I'm going to flip forward to page number 17. Page 17 is your balance sheet for your governmental funds. 00:35:35.520 --> 00:35:48.660 So you have your general fund, your ARPA fund, and your IMRF fund will consider to be major funds this year, just that student amount of assets, liabilities, revenues, and expenses that flow through those funds, things get determined to be major or non-major. 00:35:48.660 --> 00:36:04.940 And then every other fund falls into that non-major governmental column. Generally, the focus is on your general fund because that's your main operating fund of the county. So general fund ended the year with unassigned fund balance of about $9.5 million. 00:36:05.520 --> 00:36:31.080 And one metric I look at when I look at fund balance is I compare that to your annual operating expenses. So if you flip the page to page 19, you'll see your total expenses for that fund. So general fund had about 13.9 million of expenses during the year. So, you know, 9.5 million of fund balance, 13.8 million of annual operating expenses puts you at about nine months or give or take of reserves there. 00:36:31.080 --> 00:36:36.680 so right in the expected range that you'd like to be in there as far as fund balance reserves. 00:36:39.140 --> 00:36:45.920 Overall, your general fund did have a positive increase in fund balance of $716,000 during the year. 00:36:46.780 --> 00:36:50.460 Your ARCA fund and IREF fund also had increases in fund balance. 00:36:51.020 --> 00:36:55.200 Your non-major governmental funds, all of those combined, had a decline in fund balance, 00:36:55.200 --> 00:37:01.700 but overall that far right column total governmental funds did have a positive increase in fund balance this 00:37:01.700 --> 00:37:08.940 year of $799,000 so fund balances at the beginning of the year were $30.1 million fund balances at the end 00:37:08.940 --> 00:37:17.200 of the year were $30.9 million so your governmental funds didn't see some positive trends the next 00:37:17.200 --> 00:37:26.350 thing I wanted to cover is page number 23 so this is where I was going to talk about the nursing center 00:37:26.350 --> 00:37:56.330 it's just a little more condensed and easier to read when you're looking at page number 23 compared to the other fund so the nursing center fund information this is four year in December 31st 2025 but as you know operations were transferred or I don't know the word to say it but transferred as of I believe September 30th so this relates to all of the county's financial activity through that date but also includes any like legacy payables that are outstanding from those previous 00:37:56.330 --> 00:38:04.730 operations. So did show a decline in that position this year, which is about four lines up from the 00:38:04.730 --> 00:38:11.890 bottom. So change in that position of about 2.6 million. So I had a positive 1.1 million that 00:38:11.890 --> 00:38:22.380 position last year to a deficit of about 1.6 million as of December 31st, 2025. And again, 00:38:22.520 --> 00:38:27.120 just the nursing home payables does continue to be something that, you know, we focus on as a part of 00:38:27.120 --> 00:38:33.160 the audit. Anticipate that that will, again, get cleaner as things continue on going forward as this 00:38:33.160 --> 00:38:41.360 invoices start to be paid there. From there, I wanted to do a pension update for you on the pension plans 00:38:41.360 --> 00:39:04.960 that the county participates in, and that's on page 69 and 70. So page 69 is for the Illinois Municipal 00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:10.900 Retirement Fund, or IMRF, so the main pension plan that the county participates in. Information is 00:39:10.900 --> 00:39:40.440 presented as of December 31st, 2024. So you do report one year in arrears from IMRF's fiscal year end, which is allowable within government accounting standards. But the focus would be on the bottom right-hand corner of the page there. So your net pension liability, or in this case, you have a net pension asset of about $2.6 million. And so how that's calculated, in the middle of the page, there's a line that says total pension liability, and that amount is $64 million. 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:46.880 So actuaries will estimate how much money that you need to have set aside to fund your pension plan. 00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:53.680 And that's the amount that they, you know, had calculated with all of their actuarial assumptions was that $64.3 million. 00:39:53.680 --> 00:39:58.720 at $64.3 million. And then the next line to look at would be the plan fiduciary net position, which is the 00:39:58.720 --> 00:40:03.660 second line up from the bottom. So what your plan fiduciary net position is, is that's how much 00:40:03.660 --> 00:40:12.220 the county as well as employees have sent to IMRF in order to fund the pension plan. So that's $66.9 00:40:12.220 --> 00:40:18.380 million has been sent to IMRF, that's earmarked for the county, invested by IMRF on your behalf. So that 00:40:18.380 --> 00:40:23.380 that leaves you with more money set aside than what they currently estimate that your liability will be. 00:40:24.260 --> 00:40:25.480 Now that could change. 00:40:25.680 --> 00:40:30.420 It kind of tends to ebb and flow and go up and down just depending on changes to actuarially assumptions, 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:33.400 you know, market performance and things like that. 00:40:33.740 --> 00:40:38.900 But just having a net pension asset is, you know, you're very well positioned building forward there, being there. 00:40:39.380 --> 00:40:45.240 What that could mean for you is potentially a decrease in what your employer required contribution rate is tied. 00:40:45.240 --> 00:40:59.680 Next page, 71 and 72, very similar information presented in the same format for your Sheriff's 00:40:59.680 --> 00:41:06.820 Law Enforcement personnel plan. So for this one, you do have a net pension liability, excuse 00:41:06.820 --> 00:41:12.540 me, for this one, but your net pension liability is $1.5 million, and that puts you at about 00:41:12.540 --> 00:41:18.820 about 96% funded. That's the top corner of page 72. So while there is a net pension liability 00:41:18.820 --> 00:41:24.560 there, again, being 96% funded means you're very well positioned for that plan as well. 00:41:26.040 --> 00:41:32.140 That concludes my remarks that I had on the financial statements. So just in summary, you 00:41:32.140 --> 00:41:38.260 know, the county received an unmodified or clean audit opinion. We still had three findings 00:41:38.260 --> 00:41:43.300 that were repeated this year. One was no longer repeated, but we are seeing progress on those findings. 00:41:44.180 --> 00:41:49.540 I just wanted to say thank you to the finance team as well for all these systems during the audit. It's 00:41:49.540 --> 00:41:54.260 not a fun process, I'm sure, but they give us, they're very quick to give us everything we need, 00:41:54.260 --> 00:41:57.780 and so I just want to make sure that we express our appreciation for that as well. 00:41:59.380 --> 00:42:00.980 I'd be happy to answer any questions. 00:42:00.980 --> 00:42:11.540 I'm at the board meeting on Thursday as well 00:42:11.540 --> 00:42:15.220 so if any questions come up or if there's anything that you want me to make sure I cover 00:42:15.220 --> 00:42:18.600 during that presentation, don't be able to let Georgia or Adrienne know 00:42:18.600 --> 00:42:26.340 Great. Lindsay, I know you can't really talk about 00:42:26.340 --> 00:42:30.740 the impact of the fine and what it could be, but can you just 00:42:30.740 --> 00:42:34.820 expand on the process that we went through to kind of get there? 00:42:34.820 --> 00:43:04.600 Yeah, so as far as the fine, so that came up, we send letters to all of your attorneys and they send back if there's any, you know, pending or threatened items out there. And based upon their response at this time, they just couldn't really give us a response or a number as far as what they thought that the outcome could be, because it seems like it was maybe newer or a unique situation. So as of right now, that's not reflected within your financial statements, because that is not, we didn't, we can't just estimate a number. 00:43:04.600 --> 00:43:10.600 if the attorneys can't estimate a number. So the financial statements note that there is pending and 00:43:10.600 --> 00:43:15.020 threatened litigation out there, but we're not sure what the outcome will be. So as of right now, 00:43:15.020 --> 00:43:36.860 it's not reflective of those numbers. Thank you. All right. Thank you. All right. Moving on to 9.2. 00:43:36.860 --> 00:43:40.980 I think Google, a manual, a mapper, oh, agreement, sir. 00:43:49.260 --> 00:44:09.430 Any questions for Carrie or any discussions or anything? 00:44:19.260 --> 00:44:21.380 Mr. Larson does have a copy of the agreement. 00:44:21.540 --> 00:44:27.500 He reviewed the original when it was approved last year with the title RX mapper instead of mapper health. 00:44:27.500 --> 00:44:31.080 But since it's a renewal, he was signed with the documentation. 00:44:32.460 --> 00:44:45.980 You did change our billing on our original with MAPA because of our claim cycle, they gave us 45 days. 00:44:45.980 --> 00:44:50.700 So that would be my only payment terms. 00:44:50.900 --> 00:44:52.520 Two, I don't know, two weeks? 00:44:52.740 --> 00:44:52.980 Yeah. 00:44:54.980 --> 00:44:56.940 Yeah, you can just cross through that. 00:44:57.380 --> 00:44:58.700 Yeah, that's what I said. 00:44:58.880 --> 00:44:59.700 That would be my only. 00:45:00.160 --> 00:45:07.360 comment on that. We looked that out with them last year, and I'm assuming that will be good for the issue. 00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:25.070 The way this agreement is written right now is currently how the program is structured. If you 00:45:25.070 --> 00:45:32.750 notice in item one, the genomic risk report shall be played directly by the participating member, 00:45:32.750 --> 00:45:38.830 or dependent at the time of enrollment, unless the company is supposed to sit, we elect some 00:45:38.830 --> 00:45:42.070 money to subsidize a pay-to-fee on behalf of some of all of its members. 00:45:42.810 --> 00:45:49.590 That's what I was talking about suggesting, kicking in the county, kicking in some finance 00:45:49.590 --> 00:45:49.890 there. 00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:59.540 Would you like me to go to the insurance fund to kind of get an idea of where we stand? 00:45:59.920 --> 00:46:00.140 Yeah. 00:46:00.380 --> 00:46:00.620 Okay. 00:46:05.120 --> 00:46:54.400 So there is quite a surplus. So we do have the means to add to the MAHA program. Like Carrie said, I don't think all of the employees on the plan would partake, just from the general idea that I got. Some people would believe, well, I didn't want that information. Other people think ignorance is bliss, and I don't want to know. 00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:59.120 So, whenever it comes, we'll come, and it is what it is. 00:46:59.260 --> 00:47:03.740 So, I think even if we budget it at 1242, I don't think we should be that number. 00:47:04.940 --> 00:47:10.100 But we do have the ability to do that. 00:47:18.770 --> 00:47:25.110 Did all employees have the opportunity to do the RX? 00:47:25.110 --> 00:47:37.830 Yes. The RX side, think of the RX side as just, it's targeting folks with specialty drugs. So think of 00:47:37.830 --> 00:47:48.690 kind of serious conditions is the RX prescriptions there. So there would be 150 of them anyways. 00:47:48.690 --> 00:47:53.610 No, we've only approved last year. We only approved up to 10 employees participating in that plan. 00:47:53.610 --> 00:48:22.570 right now six so our budget is 14 so with the and six we spent about seven thousand dollars so all 10 if four more are identified and participate for now even till the end of the year we don't spend all 14 and that's just for the RX side so because we pay for the RX side people can participate in the DX side 00:48:22.570 --> 00:48:25.210 for $250 per. 00:48:27.640 --> 00:48:33.920 But could all $169 doing the DX? 00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:35.080 Yes. 00:48:36.200 --> 00:48:40.920 All $169 employees plus spouses plus dependents. 00:48:42.380 --> 00:48:44.640 You'd have to determine who you're going to pay for. 00:48:45.180 --> 00:48:45.500 Right. 00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:47.320 Right now you're not paying for any. 00:48:47.500 --> 00:48:53.820 It's a voluntary program saying anyone can do it and they write a check and then they get the swath. 00:48:54.140 --> 00:49:26.370 So you can pay for only employees, you can pay for 50% of everybody, there's a lot of ways to skin the cat here, but we are well under budget, we earmarked $14,000 for this program, we'll probably end up at $10,000, it's like $14,000 left over. 00:49:27.370 --> 00:49:50.890 just 00:49:50.890 --> 00:50:20.190 I guess I'll just throw it out there for right now is as I look at this this is one thing we can do we're not going to save in accounting money but for the same money the employees are getting a little less because they're getting less they're making the they're making the deductibles higher so employees get a little less we get a lot less 00:50:20.190 --> 00:50:50.170 So I'm looking at something for employees So then I would look at going to 50% on the RXDMAPRA program so that we're doing something. We know that we're paying more. I mean, we're paying actually 8.7% more. Employees are getting less. So this is one way that you can get some of that back to them and they can choose to do 00:50:50.170 --> 00:50:51.170 and Jim. 00:50:51.170 --> 00:50:58.700 It's just 125. 00:50:58.700 --> 00:51:03.400 So I'll go over 250 if you're going to put that in. 00:51:03.400 --> 00:51:04.400 Yeah. 00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:05.800 I can do that. 00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:06.800 See how it works. 00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:10.000 Try it through the year to do that, too. 00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:11.000 Okay. 00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:12.200 So is that for employees or for... 00:51:12.200 --> 00:51:13.200 I have employees only. 00:51:13.200 --> 00:51:14.200 Okay. 00:51:14.200 --> 00:51:15.200 Yeah. 00:51:15.200 --> 00:51:16.200 Yeah. 00:51:16.200 --> 00:51:17.200 We'll see. 00:51:17.200 --> 00:51:18.200 Just to focus. 00:51:18.200 --> 00:51:20.200 But now I just need to focus on. 00:51:20.200 --> 00:51:23.540 Yeah, yeah, obviously, just to focus for now, I just didn't focus on. 00:51:26.260 --> 00:51:31.690 So I can make that a motion to that effect for now. 00:51:32.690 --> 00:51:33.710 I'll second that. 00:51:34.110 --> 00:51:35.930 Okay, discussion on the motion. 00:51:37.210 --> 00:51:37.910 Can you say it? 00:51:39.630 --> 00:51:52.340 I move that we renew our plan and that we agree to do 50% of the DXRX macro plan 00:51:52.340 --> 00:51:55.800 for those employees that want to participate. 00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:00.940 Any discussion? 00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:06.290 All right. All those in favor say aye. 00:52:06.550 --> 00:52:06.830 Aye. 00:52:07.270 --> 00:52:07.810 Opposed? 00:52:08.870 --> 00:52:09.630 She carried some. 00:52:12.810 --> 00:52:13.650 All right. 00:52:14.370 --> 00:52:20.090 3.9.3, review and approval of a vote for employee health and share. 00:52:20.090 --> 00:52:25.070 That's your motion. 00:52:25.070 --> 00:52:26.730 Yeah, I thought that was my motion. 00:52:26.870 --> 00:52:27.830 Oh, that was from Mapper. 00:52:28.030 --> 00:52:28.830 That was from Mapper. 00:52:28.970 --> 00:52:29.730 Mapper only? 00:52:30.510 --> 00:52:32.010 I don't think that's what your motion said. 00:52:32.170 --> 00:52:32.510 No. 00:52:32.870 --> 00:52:33.090 Oh. 00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:39.400 What's your decision? 00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:43.440 That was your decision. 00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:44.360 15%. 00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:45.400 All right. 00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:47.320 Yes. 00:52:47.500 --> 00:52:48.600 I might need to redo that. 00:52:49.200 --> 00:52:49.480 Okay. 00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:55.740 I have it that the county has to contribute $125 to DXRX Mapper employees only. 00:52:55.740 --> 00:52:57.860 for the Maverick. 00:52:57.860 --> 00:53:00.420 Because I misunderstood your motion was to renew. 00:53:00.660 --> 00:53:02.100 That is what I said, yeah. 00:53:02.260 --> 00:53:02.560 Oh. 00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:05.540 Because we already said the 8.7 percent. 00:53:06.540 --> 00:53:06.980 Okay. 00:53:07.380 --> 00:53:09.240 Well, and that was what I thought. 00:53:10.340 --> 00:53:13.380 I was just doing it all. 00:53:13.380 --> 00:53:14.560 So, that's what I heard. 00:53:14.860 --> 00:53:15.620 The 8.7. 00:53:16.980 --> 00:53:17.600 There's that, too. 00:53:18.120 --> 00:53:18.480 Okay. 00:53:19.020 --> 00:53:20.940 So, we were doing 9.2 and 9.1. 00:53:21.260 --> 00:53:21.840 Or 9.3? 00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:22.600 We did, yes. 00:53:23.620 --> 00:53:25.500 That's the motion of the 2 and 9.3. 00:53:25.500 --> 00:53:38.000 That's the intent of the motion, and that's what everybody agreed they voted on. 00:53:43.860 --> 00:53:45.180 Does anybody have an issue? 00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:45.980 I don't. 00:53:45.980 --> 00:53:47.200 No, I'm all first. 00:53:50.560 --> 00:53:51.160 Okay. 00:53:51.940 --> 00:53:53.060 So just back up. 00:53:53.780 --> 00:53:54.400 Point three. 00:53:54.400 --> 00:54:24.200 that will be next time yeah we don't have that okay 9.5 approval of sales surplus properties so referring back to Stephanie's email all four properties are going back to their owners which is a good thing so with that do I have a motion to approve surplus properties and Larry do I have a second Mr. Goodens any discussion on 00:54:24.200 --> 00:54:25.400 and Sir, Plus, Properties. 00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:29.160 All right. 00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:31.160 Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. 00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:31.800 All right. 00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:32.520 Proposed. 00:54:33.040 --> 00:54:33.920 Well, she carries. 00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:36.200 It's just not bad. 00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:37.640 It's just not just January. 00:54:37.640 --> 00:54:38.040 All right. 00:54:38.820 --> 00:54:45.220 9.6, review and approval of proposed after I have 27 budgets. 00:54:45.700 --> 00:54:48.360 I have something to pass around here. 00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:51.460 This is just a tax levy request history. 00:54:51.460 --> 00:55:01.060 Before I get started, I kind of wanted to touch on a few things that will impact your decisions probably. 00:55:03.060 --> 00:55:32.010 So this is, these are all of the levies that are listed here up on the screen as well. 00:55:33.150 --> 00:55:42.550 So when we, as a county, collect real estate taxes and take a certain percentage of that, this is where that money goes. 00:55:44.820 --> 00:55:55.060 as it stands right now there are four different funds or entities that are asking for a tax increase. 00:55:55.060 --> 00:56:04.400 Those are County Highway, Joint Bridge, Mental Health, and the BACs. 00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:13.460 So there are several options that the committee and the whole board can consider. 00:56:13.460 --> 00:56:33.880 So we can restructure our levy amounts. So if one fund needs $200,000, we can take $200,000 from another fund or decrease that levy without asking for more money as a whole. 00:56:33.880 --> 00:56:47.880 Okay. We're allowed each year to ask for any amount up to 5% over what we received in the previous year. So 00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:56.780 the $10.6 million is what we actually received in our final extension. So 5% of that is this number 00:56:56.780 --> 00:57:07.650 right here, the 530,521. So with that in mind, this is just a straight increase in how that would be broken 00:57:07.650 --> 00:57:20.440 down if all four funds were to get what they asked for. I say that, but Highway actually wants this 00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:33.230 amount to be $630,000. So they're asking for $65,000 more. But that would mean, 00:57:33.310 --> 00:58:06.810 that we would have to increase taxes. So you can keep this in mind as we're going through things. Like I said, if you did not want to go that route, the levies for another fund would have to be decreased. I did say we don't have liability insurance numbers yet. There may be some wiggle room there. If you decided to take it from the general fund, 00:58:06.810 --> 00:58:14.570 then any department within the general fund would probably have to cut what they have requested so far. 00:58:16.030 --> 00:58:28.510 So I just want you to get an overall picture of there's a lot of moving pieces, a lot of moving parts that you kind of have to consider and what is going to be at the top of your list. 00:58:28.570 --> 00:58:35.590 What do you want to accomplish? Do you want capital expenses to be funded? Do you want roads to be funded? 00:58:35.590 --> 00:58:42.910 do you want public safety to be funded, that type of thing? Does anybody have any questions 00:58:42.910 --> 00:58:49.210 on this? Just because Ohio State wants an extra $65,000, whatever it was, that doesn't mean 00:58:49.210 --> 00:58:56.790 that we can just tell them no or not. So the way that they have their budget presented 00:58:56.790 --> 00:59:04.330 right now, it includes this tax increase. Okay. So if we, if the committee decides to tell them 00:59:04.330 --> 00:59:11.290 No, they're going to have to rework and will probably be able to do half of the work with what they thought they were going to. 00:59:12.790 --> 00:59:14.610 That's how I understood it. 00:59:14.750 --> 00:59:16.010 For 65,000? 00:59:16.530 --> 00:59:17.050 No, no, no. 00:59:17.190 --> 00:59:17.390 What? 00:59:17.750 --> 00:59:21.050 BAC is requesting 65,000. 00:59:22.350 --> 00:59:25.350 This is County Highway and Joint Bridge. 00:59:25.350 --> 00:59:35.250 they're requesting, they want their loan to be $855,000 for the highway and actually $630,000 for the joint bridge. 00:59:36.610 --> 00:59:49.150 So I didn't put it that way because there are other entities asking for money as well, and we're very, we're limited to $530,000 to it without a truth in taxation hearing. 00:59:49.150 --> 01:00:00.880 Truth and Taxation hearing? Yes, with an increase. So as I said before, you can pick any number 01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:08.240 between zero and 5%. So if you said, we want to increase our levy request by 1%, then you 01:00:08.240 --> 01:00:17.440 could give you that amount up to the levy. I did in the green columns, just pick a 2.7% increase 01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:28.900 because that was the CPI that we got from the Department of Revenant. So lots of different 01:00:28.900 --> 01:00:34.680 options, but I just wanted you to keep in mind that those requests are out there. 01:00:35.720 --> 01:00:39.240 GAC asked for about the same revenue last year. 01:00:39.240 --> 01:00:49.500 So they asked for $140,000 last year, and the committee and board agreed to $75,000. So they're 01:00:49.500 --> 01:01:34.220 asking for the remainder of that $140,000. Okay. Good. So we listed everything on the agenda just to make sure everything was included. But a lot of these, they're not going to be able to be addressed this evening. So as far as what's on the agenda, did you want me to go through everything kind of like an overview? 01:01:34.220 --> 01:01:40.320 or did you have an idea of where you wanted to focus? There are some standalone funds that can 01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:52.880 absolutely be passed. So I can just focus on that or kind of up to you. Stand alone? Okay. 01:01:52.880 --> 01:02:04.200 Okay. We will start with, so everything that has to do 01:02:04.200 --> 01:02:11.160 with the highway needs to be skipped. Also, a nursing center needs to be skipped. So, we're down to the 01:02:11.160 --> 01:02:30.440 opioid settlement fund, which is fund 12. So, we receive opioid settlement funds each year. 01:02:31.740 --> 01:02:41.200 This, the money that we collect needs to be used for specific purposes. So, we expect to receive 01:02:41.200 --> 01:03:11.180 around $15,000 in 2027. And we have a cash period forward currently of $380,000. So every quarter, I have to file a report outlining what we spent those dollars on, how it affects opioid use in our area. So we have a miscellaneous expense. And I don't want anybody to think that we're just kind of putting everything there because we have to 01:03:11.180 --> 01:03:14.460 submit very, very detailed reports and they're decategorized. 01:03:14.980 --> 01:03:16.620 Every dollar has to be accounted for. 01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:20.220 So we do kind of have a catch-all expense line for those. 01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:26.160 So we're just allowing up to $429,000 to be spent, and it is a balanced budget. 01:03:26.160 --> 01:03:28.020 So I'd recommend it for a total. 01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:31.760 Okay. 01:03:35.570 --> 01:03:36.770 Make a motion to approve. 01:03:37.790 --> 01:03:39.310 Jogerst, and then there's a second. 01:03:39.670 --> 01:03:39.950 Also. 01:03:40.430 --> 01:03:41.610 Mr. Dins, any discussion? 01:03:45.170 --> 01:03:46.850 All those in favor say aye. 01:03:47.030 --> 01:03:47.230 Aye. 01:03:47.230 --> 01:04:00.210 Okay, so capital fund is through all of the, that addresses all the supplemental requests, 01:04:00.210 --> 01:04:06.390 so I suggest we skip that. Health department, from what I understand, has not approved their budget, 01:04:06.550 --> 01:04:16.460 correct? Okay, so we will skip that as well. We go down to animal control has not passed out of 01:04:16.460 --> 01:04:23.800 Committee. So down to fund 17, which is court security and jail inmate medical. So these are 01:04:23.800 --> 01:04:31.860 court fees that are collected and need to be spent on specific things according to state statutes. So 01:04:31.860 --> 01:04:41.160 this is a standalone fund as well. So we expect to take around $120,000 in court security jail inmate 01:04:41.160 --> 01:04:53.180 medical fees, and the cash grade forward is $353,000. So Ms. Laney's expense, $470,000. This is kind of structured the same way that the opioid funds are. So I would recommend approval. 01:04:54.660 --> 01:05:00.050 Okay. Do I have a motion to approve? 01:05:01.170 --> 01:05:01.930 So moved. 01:05:02.170 --> 01:05:03.410 Mr. DeNins, do I have a second? 01:05:04.830 --> 01:05:12.690 Cindy, any discussion? Say none. All those in favor say aye. 01:05:12.990 --> 01:05:13.190 Aye. 01:05:13.190 --> 01:05:28.350 I'm close. Motion to get to the next hour. Okay. The BAC, obviously. So this is just to give you an idea. This is including the $65,000 increase in real estate taxes. 01:05:28.350 --> 01:05:33.010 Did we get a report from Gary? Did we get a financial report from the BAC? 01:05:33.010 --> 01:05:44.430 Yes. Yeah. So I got an, we got an updated one last Friday. So we will have that information for you. We'll send that out. 01:05:44.430 --> 01:05:59.890 Okay. And we have a letter just kind of outlining the uses for the increase that we received. So probation service 01:05:59.890 --> 01:06:29.870 case has already been approved, so we'll move down to EMA. So the major sources of revenue here, this department is funded by public safety. So they did not request an increase from the public safety fund, so it remains $82,800. There was an EMPG grant. There was a possibility of either partially funding new vehicles, 01:06:29.890 --> 01:06:34.270 that has been removed from a supplemental request and it is not included in this budget. 01:06:35.150 --> 01:06:44.700 So there are just 3.5% increases in salary, some other increases there with the surplus of $2,400. 01:06:45.180 --> 01:06:46.100 So I would recommend approval. 01:06:47.460 --> 01:06:48.460 Okay, great. 01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:49.880 Mr. Frank? 01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:51.100 Second. 01:06:52.620 --> 01:06:54.120 I'm Mr. Diddens, any discussion? 01:06:57.550 --> 01:06:58.990 Senator, say aye. 01:06:59.510 --> 01:06:59.810 Aye. 01:07:00.050 --> 01:07:00.370 Moved. 01:07:00.890 --> 01:07:01.130 Okay. 01:07:01.130 --> 01:07:39.340 Okay. So to the county coroner. So the major source of funding for this fund is also the public safety fund. That request is increased by 33%. It was $166,000. Now they're requesting $223,000 to cover all of the 01:07:39.340 --> 01:08:07.000 expenses below. The coroner did submit four supplemental requests that were basically, you know, boots, a fan, a stretcher, those type of items. And I said, if they're, he misunderstood and thought, if they're one-time expenses, they need to be a supplemental request. 01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:36.380 they said, well, they really don't qualify as a capital purchase. So we included those in his budget under operational equipment. We just put those, I think it was $10,000, around $10,000. So we increased that request on that line item. And so that operational equipment line next year will be reduced by that amount because those purchases will have been made. So as it stands, does anybody have any questions on the revenue side? 01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:38.760 and the transfer from public safety. 01:08:41.060 --> 01:08:41.580 Okay. 01:08:42.260 --> 01:08:46.400 So as it stands now, there is a small surplus, so I would recommend approval. 01:08:46.960 --> 01:08:47.520 So moved. 01:08:48.240 --> 01:08:48.500 Second. 01:08:52.620 --> 01:08:52.980 Second. 01:08:53.380 --> 01:08:55.900 Mr. Dins, any discussion? 01:08:58.360 --> 01:09:03.180 I like to use the rule of thumb on both of them, but you guys can see them. 01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:06.060 All right. 01:09:06.160 --> 01:09:07.300 All those in favor, say aye. 01:09:07.300 --> 01:09:07.940 Aye. 01:09:08.420 --> 01:09:08.820 Opposed? 01:09:09.380 --> 01:09:09.940 I'm curious. 01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:16.300 So just a different question, is the lease done with for his vehicle then? 01:09:16.940 --> 01:09:18.480 And then we bought it out or we just? 01:09:18.740 --> 01:09:19.080 Yes. 01:09:19.940 --> 01:09:21.280 I just thought about that. 01:09:21.580 --> 01:09:21.780 Yep. 01:09:22.100 --> 01:09:23.440 We did that last year, didn't we? 01:09:23.500 --> 01:09:23.820 Yes. 01:09:25.380 --> 01:09:25.860 Right. 01:09:26.080 --> 01:09:26.740 Next one. 01:09:27.740 --> 01:09:28.360 All right. 01:09:28.440 --> 01:09:39.850 So Social Security, health insurance numbers, I would kind of like to tweak that, if you don't 01:09:39.850 --> 01:09:43.630 with the passage of the RX mapper. 01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:54.160 Liability is part of taxes, IMRAC is part of taxes, extension education is part of taxes, 01:09:55.000 --> 01:10:00.840 mental health is part of taxes, and so is tuberculosis. So we'll move down to 9-1-1. 01:10:01.960 --> 01:10:11.740 I do believe the 9-1-1 board approved this with some small changes just in names of lines to make 01:10:11.740 --> 01:10:21.240 to make them a little bit more accurate. They have quite a large surplus of 1.5 million. I would recommend approval. 01:10:21.240 --> 01:10:22.240 So moved. 01:10:22.240 --> 01:10:31.200 Do I have a second? So Cindy, any discussion? So none of those in favor say aye. 01:10:31.200 --> 01:10:32.200 Both. 01:10:32.200 --> 01:10:34.200 Motion carries. 01:10:34.200 --> 01:11:07.710 So the ARPA fund, all of these funds are required to be spent by the end of 2026. So we will make that final payment for the HVAC and associated equipment lease. It might hit, we'll get the checkout before the end of the year, before 01:11:07.710 --> 01:11:31.130 or 1231, but it might, I have it in next year's budget just in case. I do have a transfer to animal control for $100 in case that fund does get in trouble. There is some money in there to, and obviously we can overspend that one because ARPA is done. 01:11:31.130 --> 01:11:40.290 The only dollars remaining in that fund are interest, and we are free to spend those funds however we want to. 01:11:41.070 --> 01:11:55.670 My suggestion is to hold on to them because the mill race TIF is going to expire in 2029, and we are making payments until 2031. 01:11:55.670 --> 01:12:18.330 So we will need some type of funding source and Treasurer is doing a fantastic job of investing and getting us great returns on that money. That's my suggestion not to touch it. So with that said, and that plan being okay with everyone, I would recommend approval. 01:12:18.330 --> 01:12:56.500 So this is the bond repayment fund. 01:12:56.500 --> 01:13:05.800 Fund. This is where the Mill Reyes Debt Certificates are paid from. So this just outlines what is going to be due in 2027. 01:13:06.540 --> 01:13:13.900 There is a transfer from the General Fund as well as from Mill Reyes Crossing. The transfer from Mill Reyes 01:13:13.900 --> 01:13:20.400 Crossing are those real estate tax dollars that come in from the TIP. So with that said, 01:13:20.400 --> 01:13:33.640 There is a surplus of 79E6. I would recommend approval. So moved. Mr. Diddens, who's there a second? Mr. Frick, any discussion? 01:13:37.140 --> 01:13:39.560 CNO, all those in favor say aye. Aye. 01:13:40.100 --> 01:13:42.060 Both. She carries. 01:13:43.280 --> 01:13:56.720 So there is a small change in economic development. I didn't know if 01:13:56.720 --> 01:14:03.880 that this should be kept there and just kind of a broader term in that line? 01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:26.160 Previously, that was GFP. That's how that is. We don't have a contract after the end of this year with GFP. We just talked about Mr. Fricke's committee planning development. We also changed it in that budget to just read economic development. I'm not suggesting we won't have a contract with GFP. That's yet to be determined. 01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:32.080 I'd like to have a placeholder there, but I think it needs to be generic in nature. 01:14:39.180 --> 01:14:47.260 So obviously this includes the real estate, real estate tax dollars that they received and then the bond repayment, 01:14:47.260 --> 01:14:55.340 which was in the bond repayment fund. So keeping everything as is, there's a $7,200 surplus 01:14:55.340 --> 01:14:56.540 So we'd recommend approval. 01:14:59.780 --> 01:15:00.100 Are we sure? 01:15:00.260 --> 01:15:00.820 Are we sure? 01:15:00.820 --> 01:15:02.660 Do we have a second? 01:15:03.540 --> 01:15:03.860 Sure. 01:15:04.300 --> 01:15:04.800 Thank you. 01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:05.360 Mr. Jones. 01:15:05.960 --> 01:15:07.140 Any discussion? 01:15:11.390 --> 01:15:13.030 CNN, all of them in favor say aye. 01:15:13.370 --> 01:15:13.670 Aye. 01:15:14.150 --> 01:15:14.550 Opposed? 01:15:15.390 --> 01:15:16.010 Motion carries. 01:15:22.220 --> 01:15:22.940 Is it? 01:15:23.080 --> 01:15:23.480 Good on. 01:15:23.480 --> 01:15:24.180 All right. 01:15:25.320 --> 01:15:28.140 10.0 comments from committee members. 01:15:28.140 --> 01:15:31.420 Is there any comments, questions, concerns? 01:15:35.080 --> 01:15:42.160 I would just make a comment that I hope raising the taxes is soon. 01:15:43.180 --> 01:15:44.160 I'll stop by the afternoon. 01:15:50.500 --> 01:15:50.780 Okay. 01:15:53.820 --> 01:15:54.940 Well, and final adjournment. 01:15:54.980 --> 01:15:55.440 So moved. 01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:57.020 Mr. Bush, do I have a second? 01:15:57.140 --> 01:15:57.380 Second. 01:15:57.720 --> 01:15:59.360 Mr. Dins, any discussion? 01:15:59.820 --> 01:16:01.300 Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. 01:16:01.960 --> 01:16:02.320 Opposed? 01:16:02.660 --> 01:16:03.360 Motion to care. 01:16:04.780 --> 01:16:05.100 Second. 01:16:05.820 --> 01:16:09.280 I'm ready for next month. 01:16:09.280 --> 01:16:10.160 It's going to be busy. 01:16:10.240 --> 01:16:10.540 Thank you.