WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:07.860 I will call the meeting of the Stevenson County Finance Committee to order circa Friday, February 13th. 00:00:07.860 --> 00:00:12.380 And I will ask to see if anybody else wants to break. 00:00:12.580 --> 00:00:16.570 I'll take it. 00:00:17.170 --> 00:00:24.530 Lord God Almighty, thank you for offering us the opportunity to serve the people of this county on this finance committee. 00:00:24.530 --> 00:00:29.770 I pray you help us get through the things we need to get through, understand the things you need to understand, 00:00:29.770 --> 00:00:38.250 to communicate and collaborate as we need to on things and do the best we can for the folks 00:00:38.250 --> 00:00:40.030 of this county and how we spend their money. 00:00:40.530 --> 00:00:41.670 So we thank you and praise you. 00:00:41.750 --> 00:00:42.310 In Jesus' name. 00:00:43.350 --> 00:00:46.210 All right. 00:00:46.290 --> 00:00:48.570 I have an entertaining motion to approve the agenda for today. 00:00:48.570 --> 00:00:50.390 I have a motion. 00:00:51.130 --> 00:00:51.810 And a second. 00:00:52.450 --> 00:00:54.430 And any other discussion? 00:00:54.770 --> 00:00:55.790 All those papers say aye. 00:00:55.930 --> 00:00:56.210 Aye. 00:00:56.530 --> 00:00:57.050 Opposed? 00:00:57.450 --> 00:00:58.150 Motion carried. 00:00:58.150 --> 00:01:01.630 meeting minutes from January 12, 2026 meeting. 00:01:02.370 --> 00:01:03.670 I have a motion to approve. 00:01:03.790 --> 00:01:04.070 Second. 00:01:04.350 --> 00:01:04.990 And a second. 00:01:05.250 --> 00:01:05.990 Any discussion? 00:01:06.930 --> 00:01:08.690 Hearing none, all those in favor say aye. 00:01:08.910 --> 00:01:09.110 Aye. 00:01:10.210 --> 00:01:10.610 Opposed. 00:01:11.010 --> 00:01:11.710 Motion carried. 00:01:12.550 --> 00:01:13.470 A little claims. 00:01:13.570 --> 00:01:14.610 I have claims in the amount. 00:01:15.050 --> 00:01:18.030 We've got to, I'm going to just roll these together. 00:01:18.530 --> 00:01:22.610 We've got claims for zoning. 00:01:22.610 --> 00:01:36.470 Well, for the Finance Committee, it is 554-34-77 cash requirements, 489-341-48 manuals, for a total of $1,043,676.25 00:01:36.470 --> 00:01:40.690 Yeah, I suppose we should separate, we got them separate? 00:01:40.850 --> 00:01:41.290 Yeah, okay. 00:01:41.770 --> 00:01:42.930 So, what's your plan on? 00:01:43.410 --> 00:01:43.810 Sold. 00:01:44.410 --> 00:01:45.850 I have a motion to approve. 00:01:46.030 --> 00:01:46.270 Second. 00:01:46.510 --> 00:01:47.710 Any discussion on claims? 00:01:47.910 --> 00:01:48.950 All those in favor say aye. 00:01:49.130 --> 00:01:49.430 Aye. 00:01:49.730 --> 00:01:50.190 Opposed? 00:01:50.490 --> 00:01:51.070 Motion carried. 00:01:51.070 --> 00:01:58.230 So, approval of claims for committee 10 or the zoning committee in the amount of $1,764.66. 00:01:59.770 --> 00:02:02.710 I have a motion to approve and a second. 00:02:03.330 --> 00:02:04.490 Any discussion? 00:02:05.370 --> 00:02:06.530 All those in favor say aye. 00:02:07.030 --> 00:02:07.670 Opposed? 00:02:07.950 --> 00:02:08.710 Motion to pay that. 00:02:09.550 --> 00:02:12.570 So, I have public comments. 00:02:13.490 --> 00:02:14.230 Seeing none. 00:02:15.230 --> 00:02:17.270 First committee, Madam McWright. 00:02:17.730 --> 00:02:18.410 Number four. 00:02:18.770 --> 00:02:19.130 Morning. 00:02:19.510 --> 00:02:19.790 Morning. 00:02:19.790 --> 00:02:49.730 Happy for Valentine's Day to my favorite clients. My clients are like my children. I have no favorites. They're all just kidding. Just kidding. Good morning. I am going to talk about the property casualty work comp and group health. You can update on a few things. I assume you have the presentation in front of you that I sent earlier. So I will flip through that. I want to go through the coverage real quick. 00:02:49.790 --> 00:02:55.690 talk about claims and the public employee's disability act on the KC side. 00:03:00.730 --> 00:03:10.680 Again, we ensure a lot of stuff, as you know, buildings, contents, and equipment. 00:03:12.380 --> 00:03:16.680 There are property appraisals going on right now. 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:29.780 Every so often, I think three, four years, the carrier sends out property appraisals to make sure that the replacement costs are up-to-date and adequate for coverages. 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:41.660 Generally speaking, we do see that those appraisals result in somewhat significant increases in replacement costs for property managers. 00:03:41.660 --> 00:04:11.660 so be aware once we get that out I will let you guys know what that is as you know in the world today the replacement costs have increased in terms of inflation and labor and materials so that will probably be reflected in these prices. Any questions on that real quick I go through this every time I'm going to skip through this pretty quickly and just highlight one thing so we have liability 00:04:11.660 --> 00:04:16.440 coverages, public officials, general liability, employment practices, and law enforcement 00:04:16.440 --> 00:04:23.060 liability. We do have a $10 million umbrella over our liability coverages. Work comp, we have unlimited 00:04:23.060 --> 00:04:29.180 coverage, as you know. I highlighted that $50,000 deductible on the work comp for a reason. I will 00:04:29.180 --> 00:04:37.840 get to that in a moment. We also cover a whole bunch of autos, over 100 units. Any questions on the end 00:04:37.840 --> 00:05:09.210 at the next page. This is just kind of a regurgitation of the last time we went. You can see the premium history there. We have gone down significantly in the last several years, which is good news. That is the work we've done in terms of reducing work costs, claims, the work that ICRT does, the loss control rep, Mark Bell does a great job with all of the department heads to remind them of 00:05:09.210 --> 00:05:16.930 Safety. So we're really proud of that. Nothing really of note there. Down below are the insured 00:05:16.930 --> 00:05:22.590 values. You can see those have kind of creeped up for inflation over the years. With this 00:05:22.590 --> 00:05:31.150 property appraisal, I suspect those numbers will increase more than inflation. Any questions? 00:05:31.150 --> 00:05:53.210 You can skip this PNC work comp claims. ICRMT went through an update on their reporting and claims tracking system. We were unable to pull updated claims, so you can ignore that. I do know of property claim out of the health department that's pretty small, $5,000, $6,000, $7,000. 00:05:53.210 --> 00:06:01.910 and there might be a small work out there since the last time we talked, but nothing other 00:06:01.910 --> 00:06:05.130 than that or nothing significant to report on that in that regard. 00:06:06.750 --> 00:06:09.930 Next page, PETA, the Public Employee Disability Act. 00:06:10.010 --> 00:06:15.550 I wanted to make you guys aware that there is a law or an act or a statute in the state of 00:06:15.550 --> 00:06:28.050 Illinois that requires employers of police officers, law enforcement officers, firefighters that get hurt on the job for work comp. 00:06:28.670 --> 00:06:41.490 Typically, work comp coverage is when a claim comes through, they pay for all medical, and then lost time is paid at 66% of their salary. 00:06:41.490 --> 00:06:58.750 That is how it generally works. With the exception of firefighters and law enforcement, there's an Illinois state statute that says you have to pay them 100% while they're off getting better. So just a heads up there, we had one claim that that happened with. 00:06:58.750 --> 00:07:17.590 So if you go to the next page, ICRMT offers additional coverage on the work comp to cover the remaining 33.3% of payroll in the event someone is off due the tune of an additional $9,000 in premium. 00:07:17.590 --> 00:07:32.030 However, we have a $50,000 deductible on the work comp, so I would not recommend we add this endorsement to the work comp, but I wanted to talk to you about it and let you know and make you aware of it. Any questions on that? 00:07:36.670 --> 00:07:37.150 Please. 00:07:37.150 --> 00:07:53.550 So, if we want to revisit that at renewal, we can, we'll certainly get an updated goal for that, but as long as we keep the $50,000 deductible to workshop plans, there is really no need for this additional public issue. 00:07:57.870 --> 00:08:07.710 Moving on to benefits, a couple of things that are going on in the benefits world, we use a system called EASE for online open enrollment. 00:08:07.710 --> 00:08:15.150 this system or this company got bought out by Employee Navigator two years ago. There has been a 00:08:15.150 --> 00:08:20.950 migration that has gone super slow over the last couple years. They keep pushing out the migration 00:08:20.950 --> 00:08:26.150 date or the drop dead date when Ease is turning off and Employee Navigator is turning on. This will 00:08:26.150 --> 00:08:30.810 eventually affect the county where we have to migrate everything on Ease online opener one 00:08:30.810 --> 00:08:37.470 platform to Employee Navigator. I don't know when that's going to be. Might be the end of this year, 00:08:37.470 --> 00:08:42.170 might be in the 2028 or 2027 in the 2028. 00:08:42.890 --> 00:08:46.450 Don't know the additional costs or the implementation timeline. 00:08:47.530 --> 00:08:49.730 Costs will be minor. 00:08:49.730 --> 00:08:52.190 Right now, the e-system is free to the county. 00:08:52.630 --> 00:08:59.750 Employee Navigator, I have heard, has some nominal costs, $100 a month, $50 a month, something like that. 00:09:00.050 --> 00:09:05.270 I will keep the board updated on that one second. 00:09:05.550 --> 00:09:06.930 Just a heads up, Navigator. 00:09:07.470 --> 00:09:17.050 The Employee Navigator System is more robust, lots of bells and whistles that can be used for the county, but again, not sure on the timeline. 00:09:18.250 --> 00:09:26.730 I'm going to go through the plans just to review with you, remind you, talk about plans, and then talk about RxMapper and update with that. 00:09:26.730 --> 00:09:36.750 that. Next page, you can see the plan migration from 24 to 26. Just a reminder that a couple 00:09:36.750 --> 00:09:43.490 of things last, or 2025, the $1,500 deductible plan was no longer offered by Blue Cross Blue 00:09:43.490 --> 00:09:50.330 Shield, and we had to go to an $1,800 plan that was mandatory. We had no other choices in that 00:09:50.330 --> 00:09:59.990 of 2025, 2026, the $2,500 deductible plan was not offered and it went to 27. You can see the 00:09:59.990 --> 00:10:06.180 You can see the number of employees in each plan has changed somewhat. 00:10:07.180 --> 00:10:13.720 I am most proud of the $3,500 HSA deductible of 12 employees in 2025. 00:10:14.320 --> 00:10:17.340 That has jumped up to 25 employees in 2026. 00:10:18.040 --> 00:10:20.280 Those are things that we like to see. 00:10:20.500 --> 00:10:23.120 We like to see employees moving to higher deductible. 00:10:24.260 --> 00:10:25.600 Any questions on that? 00:10:28.500 --> 00:10:47.000 Next page, 2025 claims. This is a full year effect of 2025. No surprise there. The county paid approximately $4.4 million and changed in premiums. Total claims paid out was about $4.6 million. 00:10:47.000 --> 00:11:15.560 the graph below is probably a better visual of how claims come in again we are running in the red so just a reminder that hey insurance is working here we I say only have to pay 4.4 million in premiums if we were self-insured or on different plans we would have had to pay 4.6 million 00:11:15.560 --> 00:11:22.280 Again, we always track this number to try to get a feel for what the renewal will come in at. 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:33.240 I have no feel for that right now, but based on 2025 numbers, we can expect an increase on the renewal because we're trying to get a loss right here. 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:45.240 can I take you back one step back to the benefits plan we had 20 employees less on all the plans 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:49.240 this year than last what what's the cause of that? 00:11:49.240 --> 00:12:03.160 I was going to say there's less employees this year than last year. 00:12:03.160 --> 00:12:35.540 Let's see. The bottom there, you can see, let's flip to the next page. Sorry, the bottom, I'd make a note, hey, of the total 4.6 million in claims, high cost claimants are 2.3. That's an issue that I will talk about here in the next page. 00:12:37.120 --> 00:13:08.660 Next page just gives a high cost prescription claims. Prescriptions drive about $780,000 of the high cost plans. These brand names you may be familiar with. I have a slide that I present to a lot of groups that I stole from someone that says you are one Super Bowl commercial away from huge pharmacy claims. 00:13:08.660 --> 00:13:39.910 and if you recall if you watch TV at all you will recognize a lot of these these pharmacy names nothing wrong with that it's just that you know cutting-edge pharmacy is great it helps people tremendously but it is super super expensive I can comment that Sky Busy is is you know this is an order you could say J. Kirk or Humira most 00:13:39.910 --> 00:13:54.630 Most of these are autoimmune. Again, lots of advances in the autoimmune space, but it is expensive that we have implemented RxMapper to hopefully help that, and then I'll talk about that. 00:13:55.550 --> 00:14:02.990 Specialty claimants, you have 10 employees utilize these drugs. What was that, specialty claimants? 00:14:02.990 --> 00:14:03.890 Where are you? 00:14:05.970 --> 00:14:07.490 Right-hand side of that. 00:14:07.810 --> 00:14:09.250 Yes. Yes. 00:14:09.250 --> 00:14:36.780 The next page is just a graphic view of the previous page, and you can see 2025 saw a big jump, significant jump, over 2024 in specialty drugs, which is not the best trend we wanted. 00:14:36.780 --> 00:14:51.700 I'll flip to the RxMapper. So given what I've showed you on the pharmacy side, we really hope that RxMapper will be able to help move the needle on the pharmacy claims. 00:14:51.700 --> 00:15:01.900 So the whole point of RxMapper was to do DNA sequencing for folks that are on specialty drugs, those who qualify for the sequencing. 00:15:01.900 --> 00:15:31.100 financing. You know, the ROI, again, you all approved to spend around up to $13,000 on 410 employees to take advantage of RxMapper. And the ROI there was spending $13,000 to offset almost over $200,000 in claims. So we really hope to see that in this year and into next. And I can say that so far, five individuals are currently enrolled 00:15:31.100 --> 00:15:33.160 enrolled and participating in the program. 00:15:33.400 --> 00:15:39.380 That means they did the swab or they met with the clinicians over the phone. 00:15:39.900 --> 00:15:42.900 Clinician did determine that that person was a good candidate. 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:50.000 They got the DNA kit, sent the swab in, and they're getting sequenced. 00:15:51.460 --> 00:15:57.040 There's another one scheduled for a screening call later this week, and then there was one that did not qualify. 00:15:57.480 --> 00:16:00.400 So that's great, and that is only in the month of January. 00:16:01.100 --> 00:16:25.200 So, again, you guys approved up to 10. We're already at 586, just in the month of January. So, I'm very, very excited about you. So, we'll see what the results are. Hopefully, you know, and again, I'll remind you, you approved up to 10. That doesn't mean you have to spend all that money. You will only spend for the folks that get the season six. 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:35.600 If we go over 10, then I would have to go to the board to get approval to get that 11th, 12th, 13th person. Any questions on that? 00:16:35.740 --> 00:16:40.220 What if we do it? You've done. You may have five. 00:16:41.220 --> 00:16:53.980 So the marketing started, I believe, early January or late December. We sent out, Diamond Brothers sent out heads up marketing. We did talk to the department head saying, hey, this is coming. You know, tell your employees. 00:16:53.980 --> 00:17:18.400 RxMapper has sent out email blasts almost weekly since then so RxMapper, we kind of handed it off to RxMapper, we introduced the concept, we talked to the department heads, we tried to get the word out, I've sent emails out as well, now RxMapper has a trip campaign going out to every single employee and we also talked about the department that we didn't miss with the trip. 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:20.900 It's possible to put a message on Facebook. 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:22.400 Yep. 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:28.600 Can I maybe try that if you can, if you can? 00:17:29.600 --> 00:17:48.240 Yeah, sure, it doesn't hurt. So, I am on the RxMapper page, there's a highlight there. On the bottom, the January invoice was just sent to Georgia for approval, and you can see everything is lagging, so there's only two people on that invoice that got sequenced. There's three more people that will be billed in February. 00:17:48.240 --> 00:18:15.320 Right. Really only sunk cost is the per employee per month membership fee of two bucks. You know, nobody participated in the plan, let's say. We would be out $2 per employee per month. And then as people do get sequenced, it's about, it's $300, $600 per each employee. But again, we have that date density habit. 00:18:15.320 --> 00:18:44.490 So we'll just get billed as it. Any questions? I'm really excited about it. To Scott's point, the more people that participate that are accrued and screened into that box. Yeah. Let's say 10 people do get enrolled. What's our cost on those 10 people next year? 00:18:44.490 --> 00:18:47.550 I would assume the same. 00:18:48.170 --> 00:18:49.250 They don't get sequenced. 00:18:49.370 --> 00:18:51.910 Unless they take a new drug, they get sequenced again. 00:18:52.110 --> 00:18:53.710 I will ask that question and get back to you. 00:18:54.210 --> 00:18:55.530 I would assume it's the same. 00:19:02.950 --> 00:19:03.530 Yes, sir. 00:19:04.390 --> 00:19:06.070 I'm just going to go back to PNC. 00:19:06.550 --> 00:19:06.650 Sure. 00:19:06.930 --> 00:19:10.130 As you're doing these audits, and I know it's early in the year, 00:19:10.130 --> 00:19:26.710 Have you seen any, I guess, what rating increases are over this point of 26 or at least the fourth quarter of 25 through these audits, just as a percentage? 00:19:28.230 --> 00:19:29.810 You mean the appraisals? 00:19:30.230 --> 00:19:39.370 Well, we've increased in premium. Obviously, the cost of the buildings, replacement, things like that are going up, so I'm just curious if you're saying 00:19:39.370 --> 00:19:42.590 of 10%, 15%. 00:19:42.590 --> 00:19:45.950 ICRMD does a really nice job of keeping costs low. 00:19:46.370 --> 00:19:49.350 They are better than most carriers, I will tell you. 00:19:50.030 --> 00:19:50.930 First-hand knowledge. 00:19:53.070 --> 00:19:55.910 I don't want to give you a number. 00:19:56.370 --> 00:20:26.310 your property coverage is your property premium will go up slightly because you're I think it would be single digits. I think the property values would go up to finish maybe in the teens percent. But ICRT does a really nice job of keeping property range of line. Go to the offset. Your work comp is a great 00:20:26.310 --> 00:20:32.350 story that has really gone down a lot. The only other issues are liability and those have gone 00:20:32.350 --> 00:20:38.150 down a lot too. I mean, there's been a really good, you know, the departments that are engaged 00:20:38.150 --> 00:20:44.070 with Mark Bell and the safety team really do a nice job and you can make this good and 00:20:44.070 --> 00:20:50.610 keeping it fully safe. You know, the things that we can't control, broken pipes or weather 00:20:50.610 --> 00:20:55.470 related things that's going to happen, I'm not worried about anything else with it. 00:20:56.310 --> 00:21:04.370 who's doing very well, I should hope to say this, you know, I don't have any other concerns 00:21:04.370 --> 00:21:05.610 in any other lines of coverage. 00:21:07.170 --> 00:21:10.450 Property will be going up because of the appraisal because they're due. 00:21:11.450 --> 00:21:13.110 Other than that, I don't have it. 00:21:14.350 --> 00:21:15.450 Does that answer your question? 00:21:15.830 --> 00:21:16.630 Thank you. 00:21:16.630 --> 00:21:28.930 I have this off the top of your head, but I'd be real curious, dollar percentage increase 00:21:28.930 --> 00:21:37.110 year-over-year for health insurance claims everywhere, 4.6 for 25, just 24, 23, 23. 00:21:37.110 --> 00:21:39.950 Yes, you know, I can get you that. 00:21:42.630 --> 00:21:43.950 Yes, I will do that. 00:21:46.630 --> 00:21:51.530 Yes, I met some good data in this, and I did, I'm going to see your signature. 00:21:53.610 --> 00:22:17.320 If you recall back in 2020 or 2021, we moved from the state plan to Blue Cross Blue Shield for a savings of $2 million, which was huge. 00:22:17.320 --> 00:22:22.820 and we have kind of eaten into that now by this time. 00:22:22.820 --> 00:22:26.900 I will give you a history on that. 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:38.120 Blue Cross Blue Shield just say we're never going to get our money back no matter how high we increase the premium. 00:22:38.540 --> 00:22:39.160 I don't know. 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:43.380 I don't see that happening. 00:22:43.380 --> 00:22:49.100 I just see them increasing it from teens to 22% every year. 00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:51.100 I really do. 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:56.680 That's why it's, again, I have this conversation with a lot of my employers. 00:22:58.180 --> 00:23:01.180 What you can do on the inside floor walls helps you on the outside. 00:23:01.360 --> 00:23:04.620 When you can control your health plan, you will control your costs tremendously. 00:23:04.980 --> 00:23:09.160 Blue Cross Blue Shield has zero incentive to help with anything. 00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:13.520 and they just, if it's a million dollar drug, they'll pay it and they'll charge you for it next year. 00:23:14.120 --> 00:23:19.440 That's how it goes, which is neither good nor bad. 00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:23.200 Again, the reason you pay for insurance is to insulate yourself. 00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:25.600 These are costs that you have to have. 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:30.760 Every five years, generally speaking, your group is going to have a really bad year. 00:23:31.540 --> 00:23:35.260 So within those four years, you know, you're paying for it. 00:23:35.260 --> 00:23:42.020 So that's why we put in RxMapper, that's why we're doing the wellness, that's why there's a lot of other things we can do 00:23:42.020 --> 00:23:52.260 That's why we're trying to increase the deductibles, not to punish employees by any means, but to get them engaged and educated on their health care spend, being good of their consumers 00:23:52.260 --> 00:23:59.280 Just like you shop for a car or a microwave or a refrigerator, you should shop for medical services, MRIs, CAT scans 00:23:59.280 --> 00:24:28.880 and the way the medical systems work they make it really convenient for you to get an MRI and just go right down the street or right down the hall in that network to get an MRI whereas if you went down the street literally the MRI cost is out so if there are higher deductibles for employees again not to punish them but to make them oh well this is my money you know people forget that I was guilty of it for a long time too it's it's it's a mindset change it's education it's an engagement and that's what we're trying. 00:24:29.280 --> 00:24:34.000 to the constraints that we have. 00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:35.140 We're working on that. 00:24:35.220 --> 00:24:40.020 You can see kind of the progression of the deductibles. 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:44.940 I think before we had zero acceptables, we passed, so we're getting that. 00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:45.720 But it's a long road. 00:24:47.540 --> 00:24:56.260 Lastly, you've done a great job of giving us tools to try to get beyond the deductible, 00:24:56.260 --> 00:24:58.060 which seems like a no-brainer. 00:24:58.060 --> 00:25:03.040 Is there anything else out there that we haven't utilized that you can think of? 00:25:03.900 --> 00:25:05.000 There's nothing now. 00:25:05.160 --> 00:25:10.180 If you can, I guess, just go back to the drawing board and see what else is out there. 00:25:10.340 --> 00:25:15.700 What we try to do is send out employee communications and campaigns, educating them on the tools that they can use. 00:25:15.980 --> 00:25:17.960 There are tools in the Blue Cross the Shield app. 00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:24.600 We really try to harp on folks when we do online enrollments and when Terry and I are here on site talking to employees. 00:25:25.420 --> 00:25:26.700 Hey, download the app. 00:25:26.700 --> 00:25:33.460 look at the costs, download the GoodRx app, look at the costs between Walgreens, CVS, Walmarts, 00:25:33.460 --> 00:25:36.180 and Weyer, use the tools that you're given. 00:25:36.260 --> 00:25:37.820 There's a lot of online tools to do. 00:25:41.020 --> 00:25:44.820 You try to educate them and keep them informed. 00:25:45.260 --> 00:25:48.600 It's kind of a little bring the horse to water, can't make you drink. 00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:52.020 It's your weird truck, Dr. Cs. 00:25:52.020 --> 00:25:53.520 I was just thinking that. 00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:55.400 I'll find out. 00:25:56.700 --> 00:25:57.700 Thank you. 00:25:57.700 --> 00:25:59.700 Do you have another question? 00:25:59.700 --> 00:26:02.700 This probably isn't a curious question. 00:26:02.700 --> 00:26:10.740 At the auto insurance, we're insuring 108 units at $5.6 million. 00:26:10.740 --> 00:26:13.020 This has been brought up before. 00:26:13.020 --> 00:26:20.340 Do we need to do a, you know, check and see if we're all 108 of these units are still in 00:26:20.340 --> 00:26:21.340 service? 00:26:21.340 --> 00:26:27.150 At one point in time, I had heard that there were units that were being insured that were 00:26:27.150 --> 00:26:32.150 are no longer owned by the county, so I don't know who would do that. 00:26:32.610 --> 00:26:38.610 I would say the last couple of years, we've really, between the asset listings and the renewals, 00:26:38.610 --> 00:26:41.150 I'd say we've really railed that in. 00:26:44.150 --> 00:26:51.030 So along with that, you're tracking the titles, right? 00:26:52.050 --> 00:26:53.210 So we should know. 00:26:53.750 --> 00:26:56.390 We have 108 titles, we have 108 vehicles. 00:26:56.390 --> 00:27:00.030 that's a lot of titles 00:27:00.030 --> 00:27:04.110 and we should know now my question 00:27:04.110 --> 00:27:06.790 do we know but apparently George is also good 00:27:06.790 --> 00:27:12.170 thank you Carrie yeah thank you 00:27:12.170 --> 00:27:21.110 all right madam administrator you have the floor all right um update which we'll talk about more later 00:27:21.110 --> 00:27:26.370 with uh past due vendors and settlement offers with the nursing home continuing to work on those 00:27:26.370 --> 00:27:29.950 I had a conference call with a new shredding service company. 00:27:32.030 --> 00:27:35.870 They're going to, it's going to be a couple months till we actually transition over to that company. 00:27:35.870 --> 00:27:47.030 They need to send pictures of the two different types of receptacles they use to determine what's needed in each department for their pickups. 00:27:47.350 --> 00:27:49.950 So we have a follow-up at the end of this one. 00:27:50.610 --> 00:27:52.690 Hopefully, if I'm in the next one, I'll read those. 00:27:52.910 --> 00:27:53.550 They'll be outside. 00:27:53.550 --> 00:27:54.550 Thank you. 00:27:54.550 --> 00:28:04.130 Great partnership meeting was on the 28th of January, new board president and two new members 00:28:04.130 --> 00:28:05.130 were appointed. 00:28:05.130 --> 00:28:13.310 The annual dinner was on the 5th with the awards, was the next meeting there is on the 25th. 00:28:13.310 --> 00:28:22.310 In court on the 11th, there was another continuance in the nursing home case to March 4th at 1.30. 00:28:22.310 --> 00:28:43.630 There's been an uptick in FOIAs lately. Last week, I received nine. In talking with the county clerk and a few others, there's a group that is FOIAing neighboring counties as well. So most of the ones I got, most of the neighboring counties received as well. 00:28:43.630 --> 00:28:55.630 So, it was overtime reports, contracts, board executed documents, there was a lot of payroll stuff. 00:28:56.990 --> 00:29:08.010 January 30th was a ribbon cutting for the new line at Sovencia, the governor was there and they're rolling out a new product line to make little three bites. 00:29:08.010 --> 00:29:15.950 and the only place in the U.S. that will be producing it is a new line. 00:29:18.250 --> 00:29:21.390 Health screenings, I met with Empower Health. 00:29:21.550 --> 00:29:26.110 Those health screenings will take place April 2nd and April 9th. 00:29:26.110 --> 00:29:34.050 We narrowed it down to two locations as opposed to three, trying to hit our max minimums at each location. 00:29:34.050 --> 00:29:40.050 with the insurance coverage they're going to cost the county a few dollars more co-participant 00:29:40.050 --> 00:29:48.050 for the full panel that the county employees are used to seeing. Once that's approved at the board next 00:29:48.050 --> 00:29:55.870 week, then the information flyers and things will start being distributed. I met with Mark. 00:29:55.870 --> 00:29:59.640 I met with Mark Bell on the 4th, and he'll be coming to our April department head meeting. 00:30:00.120 --> 00:30:11.420 He was talking about the new platform that you mentioned, Orgami, but it'll be easier for us to access more detailed information about the claims that we're seeing. 00:30:11.420 --> 00:30:23.860 So he was very excited about it, and we talked about the open claims that they still have, and he'll be presenting more of that information to the department heads in April. 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:31.980 and then just kind of piggybacking on what Ms. McGrath said on Tuesday is when our appraisals are done on site. 00:30:34.740 --> 00:30:35.700 Any questions? 00:30:38.430 --> 00:30:39.190 All right, Carrie, no. 00:30:39.570 --> 00:30:47.550 So just to touch on the revenue and expense report, it's just through January, so we're just getting started. 00:30:47.550 --> 00:30:54.070 did. You can see in nursing center, a lot of vendors have been paid. So the percentage 00:30:54.070 --> 00:31:00.930 used is quite large. And then I did want to mention in fund 22 and 25, there were grant dollars 00:31:00.930 --> 00:31:10.230 that came in that kind of looks slightly inflated for January. Did anyone else have any questions 00:31:10.230 --> 00:31:23.880 on this report specifically? Okay. So moving into the audit update, the auditors were on site on February 4th. 00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:31.900 The goals basically during this time were to conduct fraud interviews and review the internal 00:31:31.900 --> 00:31:38.920 processes of accounts payable, cash receiving, payroll, and any corrections to the general ledger. 00:31:38.920 --> 00:32:04.540 So we did that. And most departments were very responsive uploading documents to the Sherlink portal before the auditors were on site. I can tell who's actually accessed the site and who hasn't. The nursing center did access the site, but nothing was uploaded. So we do not have any information currently on requests made to the nursing center. 00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:27.240 Yeah, so that's unfortunate, but we did get the final fieldwork requests this week. The circuit clerk and kind of a countywide, which encompasses the treasurer's office and our office, are the ones that do the majority of that work. 00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:38.660 So they are going to be back on April 27th. So we have a few months to upload that information, but that's the update as it stands. 00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:41.160 Any questions? 00:32:43.740 --> 00:32:45.440 Thank you. 00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:50.580 Treasurer's Reports, hopefully everybody got a copy of that. 00:32:50.900 --> 00:32:52.980 There's a link in the online. 00:32:54.560 --> 00:32:56.080 Maybe I'm not going to go through it. 00:32:56.140 --> 00:32:58.840 I have to choose where it is to do a synopsis of things. 00:33:02.940 --> 00:33:04.980 We still have money, so that's good. 00:33:04.980 --> 00:33:17.820 So, any other thoughts on that? Hearing none, moving on. Approval of payment, prioritization of outstanding vendor claims for the nursing center. 00:33:17.820 --> 00:33:22.720 Is she the one driving that? 00:33:22.820 --> 00:33:28.900 She is kind of the one driving that and speaking to vendors. So, she'll probably have to come. 00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.840 She's just right outside the door. Maybe you can come back to it. 00:33:31.840 --> 00:33:37.380 So, approval of settlement agreement with McKeeson's reparations. She got that one, too? 00:33:37.520 --> 00:33:39.660 Yeah, about to come back, but here she comes. 00:33:40.080 --> 00:33:42.220 So, that's all we got is those two lines. 00:33:42.340 --> 00:33:42.520 Yep. 00:33:42.940 --> 00:33:43.740 And I apologize, Steve. 00:33:44.260 --> 00:33:48.940 So, the approval of payment prioritization of outstanding vendor claims for the nursing center. 00:33:48.940 --> 00:34:00.480 Yes. Kind of an updated spreadsheet was attached. I, since sending that out, I did get a settlement offer last night 00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:31.740 from Fox Tire, which, let's see, they were the third green one. They did make a settlement offer of $15,288. They were in my pay next category anyway, but just kind of wanted to update there and see if my line of thinking is in line with what your guys' directive was. 00:34:32.240 --> 00:35:00.820 but what's the I mean I've got notes in in most of them but if you have any questions about any of them so all the greenies are going next until I do want to keep well and you do need to keep a cushion in there we're reserving money for the civil money penalty because we don't know what that will come back at so we're not comfortable going below with 00:35:00.820 --> 00:35:10.820 We've also had a few employee payouts that now that the sale is not taking place, vacation 00:35:10.820 --> 00:35:16.860 time, things that were owed to them when they would have rolled onto the other payroll that 00:35:16.860 --> 00:35:22.920 were going to be worked out through the sale, we've had to now come back and pay. It was 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:29.200 under $8,000 total for the two, but I don't want to not have funds available for that as 00:35:29.200 --> 00:35:44.840 as well. So that is kind of the plan. Still going with the ones that are making settlements, prioritized, and then working down. And then the local vendors. 00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:50.300 Were you able to figure out how much is left? 00:35:51.300 --> 00:36:00.440 I did get a message from the treasurer. She said a rough number was about $48,000, $49,000, but without her coming in and double-checking the account. 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:31.790 so any questions on that I guess I don't I'm sorry you need us to do anything because there's an approval statement on the agenda I think as long as we're in approval of this document still needs to approve it so I would entertain a motion to approve the spreadsheet as present I have a motion and a second any other discussion if I could just notate 00:36:31.790 --> 00:36:44.510 Yes. The payment that was made to country and in suites was made from the money that Mr. Perez has been reimbursing us. So I just wanted to notate that. That's why it's the two different colors. 00:36:44.510 --> 00:36:58.820 To our, what, 15? Yes. Yeah, because through our financial software, we have to pay a complete invoice. We have to pull the dollars until we can pay a complete invoice. 00:36:58.820 --> 00:37:03.360 so I just wanted to let you know that for clarification. 00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:08.390 NEW SPEAKER 1 I have a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. 00:37:08.390 --> 00:37:09.390 NEW SPEAKER 1 Aye. 00:37:09.390 --> 00:37:10.390 NEW SPEAKER 1 Opposed? 00:37:10.390 --> 00:37:11.390 NEW SPEAKER 1 Motion carried. 00:37:11.390 --> 00:37:14.390 NEW SPEAKER 1 Approval of settlement agreement with the Keeson Corporation. 00:37:14.390 --> 00:37:23.640 NEW SPEAKER 1 So that is the payment amount that you see notated on what was just approved. 00:37:23.640 --> 00:37:29.800 They sent the formal agreement that needs or approval. Otherwise, I would have been able 00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:38.640 to probably pay it through the prior authorization, but that is what they are offering for further 00:37:38.640 --> 00:37:39.940 settlements, so that's why I say things. 00:37:40.260 --> 00:37:41.440 And Carl's looks at this. 00:37:41.580 --> 00:37:42.800 Yes, Carl has seen it. 00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:43.320 All right. 00:37:43.700 --> 00:37:45.820 I have a motion to approve. 00:37:45.940 --> 00:37:46.520 Do I have a second? 00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:48.400 I have a second. 00:37:48.980 --> 00:37:49.880 Any other discussion? 00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:51.520 All those in favor say aye. 00:37:51.720 --> 00:37:52.100 Aye. 00:37:52.220 --> 00:37:52.620 Vot. 00:37:53.200 --> 00:37:53.800 Motion carries. 00:37:55.980 --> 00:37:56.780 All right. 00:37:56.780 --> 00:38:02.460 So, as far as the chair reports, I don't really have anything specific. 00:38:02.660 --> 00:38:04.060 I think things are going along pretty good. 00:38:04.980 --> 00:38:11.560 As Dale mentioned, we did, in fact, sell our house recently and closing on the 23rd, but 00:38:11.560 --> 00:38:15.560 we're doing a rent back because we're struggling to find the right place to go to. 00:38:15.660 --> 00:38:16.860 We'll get the Rockford Land here. 00:38:18.080 --> 00:38:19.940 So, you've probably heard of that. 00:38:21.740 --> 00:38:22.660 I thought everybody. 00:38:22.660 --> 00:38:39.780 Well, I took a different job about June of last year, and I didn't think it would change anything necessarily off the bat, but it's got me going into the Chicagoland area at least three or four days a week, and while we're here, that's an extra 45 minutes. 00:38:39.780 --> 00:38:46.200 I look at it from that interchange between 20 and 90 when I get off there and what it takes to get 00:38:46.200 --> 00:38:52.040 and we just talked a lot about it and looked at the different scenarios and ways that we can play it 00:38:52.040 --> 00:38:56.520 out and just makes a lot more sense for us to be there because this company that I'm with now I'm 00:38:56.520 --> 00:39:03.180 probably going to finish with which is another seven years I'm figuring give or take I feel a couple more 00:39:03.180 --> 00:39:08.960 so it just works better for a famous situation to be okay over there we go over there every other 00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:14.120 because my wife likes Meijer for shopping, you know, and the gals probably get that, she got 00:39:14.120 --> 00:39:18.900 used to that over in Rockwood when we were in Michigan, and so we go over there every other 00:39:18.900 --> 00:39:19.700 week as it is. 00:39:19.700 --> 00:39:20.400 Why does he grow up? 00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:21.020 I go over there. 00:39:23.260 --> 00:39:35.040 My mom's situation is solidified a little bit, she's still at home and everything, but, you 00:39:35.040 --> 00:39:38.940 know, my brother's here, she's got sisters that are here, it's like that, so it's 00:39:38.940 --> 00:39:53.980 it's not as pertinent that we'd be physically here all the time and so it just so we've discussed it and got open the door and there's a ministry opportunity I'm really excited about in the Chicagoland area that I'm working with now too and so yeah wow 00:39:53.980 --> 00:40:13.740 And so, yeah, a lot of stuff takes me to that correction, so there's just not time for everything, Scott, I'd love to continue, and it's been a joy being part of this, except for one thing, which you all know, it's been fun working with all of y'all. 00:40:13.740 --> 00:40:15.540 So, I'm going to be here next month yet. 00:40:16.100 --> 00:40:21.360 I committed to Scott when all this went down because of the rent back and the way timing works. 00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:26.500 I can't really make it into April because we would be gone by now. 00:40:27.860 --> 00:40:34.740 So, but Mark, you know, shouldn't be moving physically until probably later, Mark, Mark, should be next with issues. 00:40:36.180 --> 00:40:39.380 You were instrumental in the whole nursing home. 00:40:39.600 --> 00:40:40.840 I appreciate all the work you did. 00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:43.320 Yeah, I think that was a God thing, man. 00:40:43.320 --> 00:41:13.320 and I went through all that stuff with my wife's grandparents and learned a ton about that and so it was I was kind of prepared for it on that side of things and I just I I'll probably make a statement if the chairman allows me before I start covering board in March as I I don't understand the way people look at that from the other side that you're just because they have to want to have control it doesn't make any sense to me in that business at this point 00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:14.580 to have a county involved in it. 00:41:14.580 --> 00:41:15.580 It just doesn't. 00:41:15.580 --> 00:41:18.960 You know, 30 years ago, yeah, maybe that was different. 00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:24.560 But really, I'm hoping that the public gets that at some point, because I think they're 00:41:24.560 --> 00:41:28.640 going to be lied to a lot, and they're going to be told, oh, we need to hang on to it because 00:41:28.640 --> 00:41:33.980 it's ours, all this crap, and if you see any signs, it just makes no sense. 00:41:33.980 --> 00:41:39.080 You know, you've got to understand the business that you're in, and it's changed, you know, 00:41:39.080 --> 00:41:42.460 over the last three years, and it's not something, you've got to really know what the heck you're 00:41:42.460 --> 00:41:47.620 and what people change on these communities every two years takes no sense for us to be in the car. 00:41:50.300 --> 00:41:56.020 I'm not telling you anything. Anyway, that would be my answer. Anything from administration? 00:41:56.420 --> 00:41:59.860 Irie's not here. Anybody else? 00:42:00.220 --> 00:42:07.860 I could just talk about we had action items of approving a walking program through Empower Health to run parallel to our wellness screenings. 00:42:07.860 --> 00:42:26.020 and that was I forgot to talk about it in the report which is what I went out to talk to Ms. McBride about. She looked it over. She thought it was a good idea to get everybody moving. And we're going to run that. So that'll be before you let the board along with the biometric wellness. Thanks. 00:42:28.540 --> 00:42:31.380 Nursing center. 78. 00:42:31.380 --> 00:42:55.240 78 census, a new assistant nursing director, assistant for director of nursing was hired on, a new business office manager was also added to the team, and everything is good, moving, and moving forward. 00:42:55.240 --> 00:43:24.600 Okay, public property and safety Just three things, three things that we brought before the committee for memorandum of agreement for police, for civilian police, for law, police, for correction, contract, one is a statement about the employee will not receive 00:43:24.600 --> 00:43:28.480 seniority, why all of us could pay for it, nothing like that. 00:43:30.020 --> 00:43:32.180 The union agreed to it, so 00:43:32.180 --> 00:43:34.940 they had no choice. 00:43:36.380 --> 00:43:43.800 The correction for Irving Court, who was mistakenly placed on the list due to incorrect number of 00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:50.000 service a year calculated, ERT receiving time and a half, cop ties with training. 00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:53.720 That's pretty much all. 00:43:53.720 --> 00:43:58.820 This calls the freedom of fraternity order of police. 00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:02.980 It's a new union for the sheriff's office, which must be stated. 00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:05.620 Thank you, sir. 00:44:07.260 --> 00:44:08.300 Court services. 00:44:09.020 --> 00:44:10.080 Everything's moving along. 00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:10.880 Nice to. 00:44:12.340 --> 00:44:13.340 All in the notes. 00:44:13.520 --> 00:44:13.880 All right. 00:44:16.520 --> 00:44:17.680 Oh, playing at all. 00:44:18.060 --> 00:44:20.980 We didn't have plenty in the envelope, but we did not. 00:44:20.980 --> 00:44:24.160 Did you not have a bit for them? 00:44:25.260 --> 00:44:25.500 No. 00:44:26.040 --> 00:44:29.660 And then, two other people were sitting there. 00:44:31.900 --> 00:44:37.520 So, there will be special use swelling from it coming to the pulver. 00:44:38.080 --> 00:44:39.480 And we just did the fighting area. 00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:42.980 So it works? 00:44:44.140 --> 00:44:47.640 Well, it got a little chilly out at the highway department during that cold snap. 00:44:47.640 --> 00:45:04.020 and I'm going to get down to 61 degrees because a couple of heaters quit, so there is a, we just approved last evening a RFP for four HVAC new units being put in the roof, so we'll see where that goes. 00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:14.020 They've been doing some brushwork and preparation on Orangeville Road because that's going to be resurfaced this summer, so 00:45:14.020 --> 00:45:43.920 off and otherwise it's pretty quiet at the highway. So Animal Control is working on moving relocating from the animal hospital over to their new building. So yeah, things are going on. Cool. Yeah, that's going to be so nice. And that's probably much better getting in and out of that place too as we follow. Most states have no fact there. Okay. Chairman, anything to add? Oh, all right. 00:45:44.020 --> 00:45:49.160 Mr. Bush, I have a motion to adjourn, I have a second, I have a second, any discussion, 00:45:49.420 --> 00:45:55.960 all the papers say aye, aye, I oppose, thank you very much, thank you, Mr. Snides, how are 00:45:55.960 --> 00:46:01.360 you, sir, how are you, doing well, good, better than I deserve, well, yeah, that's all right, 00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:04.960 yeah, that's all right, yes, sir, yes, sir, you still working out?