WEBVTT 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:29.460 pleasure. All right. Let us pray. Dear Gracious Eternal Father, we thank you for another opportunity to come together and to conduct the business that has been laid before us. We want to thank you for all the men and women who serve in our public safety services. We just ask you to lead, guide, and protect them as they go about doing the statutes and doing the work that has been given and put into their hands. 00:00:29.460 --> 00:00:38.140 and we ask this in Jesus name and all agree. Approval of tonight's agenda. I make a motion to approve. I'll second that. 00:00:38.140 --> 00:00:56.140 Move by Ms. Hayes, second by Mr. Whaler. Mr. Whaler. Any questions? All in favor. All in favor. All in favor. All in favor. All in favor. All in favor. All in favor. Review approval of meeting minutes from January 6, 2026 meeting. 00:00:56.140 --> 00:01:28.280 I'll second that. Seconded by Ms. Hayes. Any questions? All in favor. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. 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Aye. 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:30.180 So moved to a full. 00:01:30.820 --> 00:01:33.120 Been moved by Mr. Newt. 00:01:33.820 --> 00:01:34.520 I'll second that. 00:01:34.620 --> 00:01:35.640 Seconded by Mr. Wheeler. 00:01:35.740 --> 00:01:36.340 Any questions? 00:01:37.060 --> 00:01:40.020 All in favor. 00:01:40.620 --> 00:01:40.960 Aye. 00:01:41.180 --> 00:01:41.760 All opposed. 00:01:42.880 --> 00:01:44.380 Be sure you sign those, please. 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:47.240 Public comment. 00:01:48.460 --> 00:01:50.820 Got a standard room with no I say or nothing. 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:51.180 Okay. 00:01:51.700 --> 00:01:52.120 All right. 00:01:52.240 --> 00:01:53.280 Report to committee. 00:01:53.900 --> 00:01:54.700 Sheriff Depots. 00:01:55.080 --> 00:01:56.080 Mine will be short. 00:01:56.080 --> 00:02:01.320 We have the four NAFTO program with two at school that will graduate in April. 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:07.580 The prime suppression unit stats were put out and we are often running in February. 00:02:07.580 --> 00:02:09.000 You're going to love next week or Sunday. 00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:13.080 That's all I have for my report. 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:15.140 Now, do you want me to go right into your new business? 00:02:15.260 --> 00:02:15.680 Do you want me to wait? 00:02:16.300 --> 00:02:17.020 Oh, you can wait. 00:02:17.180 --> 00:02:17.280 Okay. 00:02:17.600 --> 00:02:17.940 You can wait. 00:02:18.060 --> 00:02:22.740 I'll tell you what, since you got blown away, I'm not going to do the coroner's report. 00:02:23.340 --> 00:02:23.620 Okay. 00:02:23.620 --> 00:02:47.740 Okay. So the coroner's report is for January, 58 total deaths, 49 were natural, two lost their lives to a fire in Cedarville, and seven are pending. Now, at your request from the last meeting, I was able to get some 24, 25 stats. So I will do a stat that Montana gave me. 00:02:47.740 --> 00:03:17.520 in 2024 we had 263 medical and I'll tell you what that is in a second medical deaths in 2025 we had 288 a medical death versus a corner death means a doctor signed off on the death certificate the corner signed off on 285 in 2024 and 248 in 2025 the comparison for natural deaths in 24 00:03:17.740 --> 00:03:46.760 were 511. In 2025, we're 485. In 2024, we had 30 accidental deaths. In 2025, we had 17. In 2024, we had two suicides. In 2025, we had nine suicides. In 2024, we had three homicides. In 2025, we had one homicide. 00:03:47.740 --> 00:03:54.060 In 2024, we have two undetermined, and in 2025, we have two undetermined. 00:03:54.700 --> 00:03:58.000 So there's the comparisons from 2024 and 2025. 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:04.340 Any questions? 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:06.380 Thank you. 00:04:07.500 --> 00:04:07.940 Okay. 00:04:09.320 --> 00:04:11.000 Emergency Management Agency. 00:04:11.660 --> 00:04:12.100 Thank you. 00:04:12.260 --> 00:04:12.920 Good evening, everybody. 00:04:13.140 --> 00:04:14.480 I'll be brief also. 00:04:14.480 --> 00:04:19.740 So, we are having two classes again we talked about last month. 00:04:19.940 --> 00:04:24.260 First one is the Homeland Security Exercise Evaluation Program. 00:04:24.460 --> 00:04:27.120 That's going to be held April 1st and 2nd at the County Courthouse. 00:04:27.660 --> 00:04:32.960 Right now, I think I've got nine people lined up for that by the time that April date comes around. 00:04:33.580 --> 00:04:39.060 I also have scheduled the NIMS Overview for Senior Officials, Executives, Electors, Appointed Class. 00:04:39.460 --> 00:04:43.400 That is scheduled tentatively right now for March 7th, Saturday morning. 00:04:43.400 --> 00:04:49.860 I want to speak with Carl Arson a little bit about my concerns getting the county board together 00:04:49.860 --> 00:04:54.260 and the Open Meetings Act and all that stuff I want to make sure that what I need to do 00:04:54.260 --> 00:05:02.340 I want to make sure I need to post an agenda there is a clause in the Open Meetings Act for 00:05:02.340 --> 00:05:07.440 training which is what this is but we want to make sure that we have all of our cheese cross 00:05:07.440 --> 00:05:08.440 Liesin. 00:05:08.440 --> 00:05:09.440 That is same. 00:05:09.440 --> 00:05:10.440 Okay. 00:05:10.440 --> 00:05:18.440 Our office is continuing to work on our credentialing and our emergency operation plan review. 00:05:18.440 --> 00:05:22.440 It's due this year, but we still have no final date as when it's due. 00:05:22.440 --> 00:05:25.440 We had a region two meeting coming up at the end of the month. 00:05:25.440 --> 00:05:30.480 I hope to get some more guidance upon that meeting, but as it stands right now, there is 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:35.440 no set date, but we're moving forward as it's going to be probably later this fall. 00:05:35.440 --> 00:05:39.560 I had some good news today. 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:41.400 I received a final check. 00:05:41.500 --> 00:05:50.280 I received a check earlier in January 2nd for $18,114, and then today I received the additional 00:05:50.280 --> 00:05:54.300 $4,200 for the Emergency Management Preparedness Grant. 00:05:54.500 --> 00:05:57.020 That's the outstanding grant that I was worried about getting paid. 00:05:57.780 --> 00:06:01.560 We got paid in full as of today, so I'll be dropping that off tomorrow. 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:13.660 At this point, I still have not applied, and we are not allowed to apply for fiscal year 2025-2026. Hopefully that will come. Okay, but I'm not real positive right now. 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:21.600 Let me thank anyone else. I think that's about it. Any questions for me? Any questions? 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:27.140 Thank you, good job 00:06:27.140 --> 00:06:33.220 Okay, we'll move on nothing for old business but go to the new business 00:06:33.220 --> 00:06:37.580 Very simple, this is, it looks worse than it is 00:06:37.580 --> 00:06:43.840 So the first order of business that was mistakenly left out of the contract that was signed 00:06:43.840 --> 00:06:50.980 was the declaration that the PDPA, which was the union representation for our union, was removed 00:06:50.980 --> 00:06:58.580 and the FOP was put into that spot. Apparently, what I was told by the attorney is that you have to 00:06:58.580 --> 00:07:04.620 declare that in all the contracts, which they didn't. Both sides missed that. So that's what 00:07:04.620 --> 00:07:13.400 the first part is. That will be added to all three contracts. Article 5, not accrue for time off and 00:07:13.400 --> 00:07:21.240 not getting paid. That is for all three contracts also. This is for the person that has an injury 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:28.120 off duty. They've used up all of their FMLA. They've used all of their sick time, all of their vacation, 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:33.860 all benefit time whatsoever. And now they're actually going to George's office and paying their 00:07:33.860 --> 00:07:41.100 own portion of the insurance. What I suggested to the union, which they agreed with me, which is 00:07:41.100 --> 00:07:48.360 unheard of. As I said, why would they accumulate seniority if they're not really working at all? 00:07:48.860 --> 00:07:53.540 Both sides agreed to that. That's all that provision is, and that will be in all three contracts. 00:07:54.080 --> 00:07:55.920 Any questions with that, Ronnie? You're looking at me. 00:07:58.980 --> 00:07:59.980 No, go ahead. 00:08:01.260 --> 00:08:09.940 Article 14.1, that was a provision for people that had X number of service years. Deputy Aaron Corey 00:08:09.940 --> 00:08:17.240 was mistakenly put in that. She had two less years than she was supposed to. Her final year or her final 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:26.580 wage increase is this year. This was her 21st year. That was mistaken. We thought she was at 23 years or 00:08:26.580 --> 00:08:32.160 at least ripped it at the time. So this is her last year. So it's actually a cost savings because she 00:08:32.160 --> 00:08:38.120 didn't get moved up to the top of the line. She actually went with what the contract says for 00:08:38.120 --> 00:09:05.680 or only 26 at 21 years old. That'll be only in the LE contract. And then the last section, 23.4, the emergency response team verbiage was inaccurate and mistakenly left out for the training. This would give members the ability to receive cash for overtime for training. We've never done that. It was time and a half, competence only. They do not get cash for training. 00:09:05.680 --> 00:09:11.340 so that was left out. The way you actually read it is they could take either. Thank goodness we had a couple 00:09:11.340 --> 00:09:16.120 people of the old timers that were like, hey, can we pay cash for this? I said, absolutely not. And then 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:21.760 we looked at it. So I immediately contacted our attorney and he contacted the FOP and they knew 00:09:21.760 --> 00:09:28.400 what we had meant. It was just mistakenly taken out. So there's absolutely no wages. There's no cash. 00:09:28.400 --> 00:09:32.560 there's none of that in any of this contract updates. 00:09:33.260 --> 00:09:35.460 There's more wording than anything else. 00:09:35.680 --> 00:09:36.740 That was left out, correct. 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:38.440 Good. 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:41.540 And all of this stuff was done from day one. 00:09:41.660 --> 00:09:42.460 We knew about it. 00:09:42.660 --> 00:09:46.480 It was a handshake agreement until they could get the verbiage the way they needed it and that worked. 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:48.800 Any questions? 00:09:49.220 --> 00:09:50.120 I got a few. 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:54.080 What's an example of a person who might be living in apartments and not working? 00:09:55.220 --> 00:09:57.020 That would be one. 00:09:57.020 --> 00:09:59.860 so it's and I'm not saying every pregnancy so you have. 00:09:59.860 --> 00:10:27.560 saying every pregnancy. So you have somebody that gets hired. They just get out of PTI. They're on in the agency for two months. They're pregnant and they have complications. Well, being there less than a year or somewhere around a year, you're only going to have about 40 hours of a comp time. And at that time, you didn't have vacation at all. So they ran out of their time right away. They're on FMLA. Their job is still secure for the 12 weeks. 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:53.000 but then you stopped getting paid so now you're stopped getting paid I have four new recruits coming in why would that person still be getting seniority and really the only thing that seniority gets you is bumping rights so now you've been working this whole time and that person's not and you want to bid for that day shift they haven't been on they can bid for that day shift before they even came back to work so now I have an open day shift. 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:59.880 So that's how that whole thing happened. If we wouldn't have saw that firsthand, I probably would have never thought of it, but that's not right. 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:04.660 I don't know if a woman can be penalized. 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:13.380 No, no, no, no, no. Don't take it as a penalty for women. Okay. You're on for the exact same scenario and you break your leg skateboarding on your off time. Same thing. 00:11:13.380 --> 00:11:23.280 Same thing. That I understand. But pregnancy is not an accident. It is a life experience. It's a life event. 00:11:24.040 --> 00:11:38.160 Well, but if you're not getting paid, if you put yourself in that predicament, and you're not, you don't have the time, you're not getting paid. And that's not us. I mean, that's all of us. You don't have any time. So you're not getting paid. 00:11:38.160 --> 00:11:39.560 The lawyers looked at that? 00:11:39.660 --> 00:11:39.980 Mm-hmm. 00:11:40.060 --> 00:11:40.840 Just looked at that. 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:42.040 And we agreed to this. 00:11:42.040 --> 00:11:43.200 This is it. 00:11:43.620 --> 00:11:45.040 You said you and Dan agreed to it. 00:11:45.040 --> 00:11:45.640 Yeah, that's it. 00:11:45.660 --> 00:11:46.620 They've already said this. 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:48.240 So why are we trying to go and get it? 00:11:48.620 --> 00:11:50.020 Just to me, it just seems like... 00:11:50.020 --> 00:11:51.500 I shouldn't ever use the pregnancy. 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:52.160 Use the broken leg. 00:11:52.160 --> 00:11:52.760 No, you shouldn't. 00:11:52.860 --> 00:11:53.960 The broken leg's important. 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:54.820 I agree with you. 00:11:54.820 --> 00:11:59.460 But to be perfectly transparent, that's what happened is you're not working. 00:11:59.700 --> 00:12:00.560 You're back. 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:02.940 You're on two months, and now you're gone. 00:12:02.940 --> 00:12:19.280 it's not fair that you can actually be off for however long you're going to be and then there's a day shift open and you can bid on it which locked everybody else that you haven't even been there and now you have to go back to an FTO program because you haven't been there long and that's how this whole thing came up I said that's not fair 00:12:19.280 --> 00:12:33.710 and the same thing goes if you have 20 years of if you have 20 years on and you run out of time you're the you're the person that's using all of your sick and every time you get a day you take two you should not get seniority you should have planned for that 00:12:33.710 --> 00:12:40.110 So hopefully this is going to curb some of that loophole used sick times. 00:12:41.550 --> 00:12:43.910 How many times do I see this happening in the future? 00:12:45.110 --> 00:12:45.510 Zero. 00:12:45.790 --> 00:12:47.030 But we wanted to make sure it's covered. 00:12:47.150 --> 00:12:49.250 That's why the union had no problem with this. 00:12:54.650 --> 00:12:58.320 I'm not saying anything. 00:12:59.840 --> 00:13:01.040 You got to, you got to. 00:13:01.980 --> 00:13:02.880 No, I just. 00:13:04.740 --> 00:13:06.200 This is kind of, yeah, okay. 00:13:06.880 --> 00:13:08.140 But the union agreed to it. 00:13:08.140 --> 00:13:08.840 Yeah, I agree. 00:13:09.180 --> 00:13:15.500 And, I mean, they're supposed to be looking out for the best interest of their employees, then, and if this is legal to do, I just 00:13:15.500 --> 00:13:28.960 I would say don't use this as an everyday job. This is law enforcement or fire somebody that you have to have there, and I can't have anybody extra. So if I have five females that just happen to be pregnant at the same time, what's that do to my office? 00:13:29.900 --> 00:13:32.260 Jackie, you're not going to get anything done. 00:13:32.260 --> 00:13:33.260 That's correct. 00:13:33.260 --> 00:13:35.260 And it's not picking on that. 00:13:35.260 --> 00:13:39.260 If I have five males that all break their legs skateboarding, what am I going to do? 00:13:39.260 --> 00:13:41.060 Yeah, no, I won't. 00:13:41.060 --> 00:13:43.060 So I have to do some of that. 00:13:43.060 --> 00:13:45.060 No, I understand. 00:13:45.060 --> 00:13:50.800 But like I said, this is a much better example than becoming pregnant. 00:13:50.800 --> 00:13:52.060 But that's what actually happened. 00:13:52.060 --> 00:13:53.060 So I use Monique. 00:13:53.060 --> 00:13:55.060 Well, actually happened. 00:13:55.060 --> 00:13:57.340 Okay. 00:13:57.340 --> 00:13:59.600 So it says it's approval. 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:02.020 So we have to vote on this next? 00:14:02.260 --> 00:14:06.320 It has to go do the board, I think it has to go forward 00:14:06.320 --> 00:14:09.220 To follow the code, because that's an actual agreement 00:14:09.220 --> 00:14:13.700 Approved by Mr. Whelan, all three? 00:14:14.620 --> 00:14:15.740 Yes, sir, all at once 00:14:15.740 --> 00:14:19.840 Second by Mr. Newton, any questions? 00:14:21.280 --> 00:14:24.160 Any, any, any, any questions? 00:14:24.280 --> 00:14:26.200 No, I'm taking them all three at once, so who knows? 00:14:27.280 --> 00:14:28.200 All in favor? 00:14:28.780 --> 00:14:30.060 All right, all of those 00:14:30.060 --> 00:14:37.880 As I have, any time that's on committee members, if none, we're still doing it. 00:14:37.880 --> 00:14:40.140 I'll second. 00:14:41.100 --> 00:14:42.060 Then move a second. 00:14:42.680 --> 00:14:43.580 Good night. 00:14:44.120 --> 00:14:45.700 One reminder, finance is spreading. 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:47.760 Yeah, we'll stop. 00:14:49.220 --> 00:14:50.060 Okay.