WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:26.300 We're going to go ahead and get started with the meeting of the Administration and Legal Affairs Committee, Wednesday, May 13th, 2026 at 5 p.m., 2.0 prayer, so I can do that. 00:00:26.300 --> 00:00:51.560 All right. Dear Heavenly Father, we just thank you for a beautiful day. We just ask you to help us navigate through these issues on the agenda and come up with the best solution for everybody in the county. And we just ask you to help the farmers and those working outside in this wonderful weather and have a productive planning season. We just thank you. In Jesus' name is great. Amen. 00:00:51.560 --> 00:01:18.060 All right. 3.0 approval of agenda. Do you want approval? Second. Second. All right. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All right. And 4.0 approval meeting minutes from April 8th. Make a motion. All right. Second. All right. I'm going to go right along. And all those in favor say aye. Aye. So move and approval of claims. 00:01:18.060 --> 00:01:27.520 on their year, I guess, $22,504.70. 00:01:29.020 --> 00:01:29.680 Too bad. 00:01:30.220 --> 00:01:31.920 The election must be over a little bit. 00:01:32.660 --> 00:01:33.940 Do we need to sign those? 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:34.320 We do. 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:35.680 We have to approve them. 00:01:35.700 --> 00:01:36.760 We have to approve them. 00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:37.780 And I will second. 00:01:37.900 --> 00:01:38.220 All right. 00:01:38.380 --> 00:01:39.420 All of them in favor say aye. 00:01:39.620 --> 00:01:39.880 Aye. 00:01:40.320 --> 00:01:41.040 So moved. 00:01:41.240 --> 00:01:41.940 Let me sign it up. 00:01:41.940 --> 00:01:42.140 Great. 00:01:42.900 --> 00:01:51.240 Thank you. 00:01:51.360 --> 00:01:51.600 You? 00:01:52.600 --> 00:01:53.360 Oh, okay. 00:01:53.360 --> 00:02:02.180 Okay, let's move on to 5.0 approval, or excuse me, public comments, 6.0, public comments. 00:02:04.260 --> 00:02:08.320 You got three minutes, you want to state your name, and when you do, then I'll start the clock. 00:02:08.620 --> 00:02:12.720 So we'll also go first, you can come on up somewhere up here, so we can... 00:02:12.720 --> 00:02:13.420 Where do you want to go? 00:02:13.420 --> 00:02:14.560 Yeah, somewhere up here. 00:02:14.660 --> 00:02:15.040 You're here? 00:02:15.500 --> 00:02:16.960 So they can get my camera closer. 00:02:17.160 --> 00:02:17.680 How about you? 00:02:18.480 --> 00:02:20.460 Camera's closer, I think, so... 00:02:20.460 --> 00:02:20.820 Okay. 00:02:20.820 --> 00:02:34.980 okay good evening my name is Karen collector and I'm here to voice my concerns and objections 00:02:34.980 --> 00:02:40.340 regarding agenda items 9.2 and 9.3 under the business regarding the burning ordinance language 00:02:40.340 --> 00:02:47.380 changes 224.3 giving any business owner in Stevenson County the right to burn landscape 00:02:47.380 --> 00:02:54.660 and I question if that's really what you want to capture every business owner. 224-4 changes are more 00:02:54.660 --> 00:02:59.920 concerning because the proposed language is allowing waste to be hauled in and it is removing the 00:02:59.920 --> 00:03:05.660 restriction of obtaining the appropriate EPA permits. The proposed language that states in 00:03:05.660 --> 00:03:10.760 accordance with the same regulations and restrictions applicable to other landscape waste generated on or 00:03:10.760 --> 00:03:16.800 off the property, what exactly are the same regulations and restrictions applicable to other 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:23.400 is my question. And that language should be better defined and made much clearer to the reader and what 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:31.420 the intent is. I also question the 224-4 language that reads all ordinance or parts of ordinances in 00:03:31.420 --> 00:03:37.300 conflict with this amendment are hereby repealed to the extent of such conflict. Again, what exactly 00:03:37.300 --> 00:03:42.360 are the other ordinances that are being referred to here? That should be spelled out much clearer to 00:03:42.360 --> 00:04:12.220 to the reader. The proposed changes seem very broad and vague in general, especially when it's a fine to all business orders and it's a burning ordinance that considers people's health and safety. My understanding is that county code may be more restrictive than state code and the proposed changes appear to be much more lenient and that is a huge concern. Specifically asking and respectfully asking you the following questions. What is the county's intent with these proposed changes and what does the county gain from these 00:04:12.220 --> 00:04:17.760 proposed changes. What's the benefit to the county by doing this? And have the implications and 00:04:17.760 --> 00:04:21.560 ramifications of passing these changes been thoroughly considered and thought through? 00:04:22.240 --> 00:04:27.100 How's the county going to enforce it to bag in general language and who is going to police it? 00:04:27.580 --> 00:04:33.500 And are there resources to police it? My concerns is the negative impact the citizens of Stephenson 00:04:33.500 --> 00:04:38.420 County have that will be subject to the liberal burning ordinances, especially in my neighborhood's 00:04:38.420 --> 00:04:44.440 case where we all know the quarry owner will be burning hauled in waste as he already hauled in such 00:04:44.440 --> 00:04:49.660 waste yesterday. And he has already burned where we smell chemicals and the paying time of smoke 00:04:49.660 --> 00:04:55.040 pollution and we cannot freely open our windows in our homes or go outside. The quarry should be 00:04:55.040 --> 00:05:00.820 operated as a quarry and not as a burn pit or landfill site. Respectfully requesting that these agenda 00:05:00.820 --> 00:05:06.060 items be tabled today and laid over to a future meeting where more research, thought, and 00:05:06.060 --> 00:05:29.540 collaborative discussion can be held. And when we can all research the Illinois EPA standards that we have not received a copy of and not been able to locate. It just seems like these have been pushed and rushed through and I'm at a loss as to why we would want to rush through such an important ordinance of burning that affects all county residents. Thank you for your time and the work we do as a board member. 00:05:29.540 --> 00:05:39.700 and I also have at least like eight people that did not attend tonight that are in agreement 00:05:39.700 --> 00:05:43.540 with, you know, what I'm saying and our objections and concerns. 00:05:43.540 --> 00:05:46.620 Okay. Great. Thank you. Anybody else? 00:05:46.620 --> 00:06:17.680 Jack Sosnowski, and to the members of the Administration and Legal 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:47.660 Affairs Committee regarding agenda items 9.2 and 9.3. We respectfully urge the committee to postpone, delay, or dismiss any vote of these proposed ordinance changes until additional research and public discussions can take place regarding the potential impact on surrounding neighborhoods and residents through Stevenson County. The proposed amendment to chapter 224-3 would expand the current ordinance language and allow 00:06:47.660 --> 00:07:16.520 landscape waste burning not only on the sites where the waste is generated or at sites supervised by the local government, but also by quote-unquote business owners. This is a significant change with potential broad implications countywide. As a nearby resident of the quarry property owned by Zach Jeffery, we already experienced concerns about burning activities at the site. Fires have been left unattended, unsupervised, 00:07:16.520 --> 00:07:25.960 for extended periods of time raising concerns about safety, air quality, nuisance conditions, and the overall impact on the neighborhood and properties. 00:07:25.960 --> 00:07:40.080 A quarry is not intended to function as a large-scale burning site. We believe additional reviews are necessary before adopting any language that could substantially expand burning permissions for businesses across Stevenson County. 00:07:40.080 --> 00:07:49.000 Residents who may be affected deserve the opportunity for further transparency, discussion, and evaluation of long-term consequences to these changes. 00:07:49.420 --> 00:07:54.640 We respectfully ask the committee to delay or dismiss these actions until more research is done. 00:07:54.640 --> 00:08:03.660 Thank you for your consideration, and I would like to have all of our notes entered into the public record in the meeting notes. 00:08:03.940 --> 00:08:04.880 Thank you. 00:08:04.980 --> 00:08:05.240 All right. 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:05.660 Thank you. 00:08:05.660 --> 00:08:24.770 Doreen Rogers, 532 York Street, Freeport. 00:08:24.770 --> 00:08:26.850 Doreen Rogers, 532 York Street, Freeport. 00:08:26.850 --> 00:08:36.210 Doreen Rogers, 532 York Street, Freeport. 00:08:36.210 --> 00:08:40.850 Myself, along with nearly 100 nearby residents, oppose the changes recommended 00:08:40.850 --> 00:09:08.070 by members of the Planning and Zoning Board. As the current code states under purpose and context is to manage waste disposal and burning in a way that protects public health, safety, and the environment. The proposed amendments do quite the opposite. The Illinois burn ban rules, exemptions, and penalties spells out that even in counties where landscape waste burning is legal, local ordinances can impose additional restrictions or ban it entirely. 00:09:08.070 --> 00:09:23.430 It does not suggest a county board take it upon themselves to dismiss the seriousness of the ban by creating ordinances that are less restrictive or changing definitions to avoid IEPA permitting requirements. 00:09:24.230 --> 00:09:30.830 Open burning is generally illegal in Illinois. The IEPA has a very limited number of exemptions to this. 00:09:30.830 --> 00:09:59.630 There are clear conditions for obtaining a permit, which include hours, wind requirements, and continuous and coordinated supervision by a government agency and the local fire protection district. This is for safety and accountability. It does not put the fox in charge of the hen house by suggesting a business owner be granted this responsibility. My case in point is Zach Jeffries. As you know, he's the new owner of the once non-operational 00:09:59.630 --> 00:10:29.610 Thank you very much. 00:10:29.610 --> 00:10:31.600 could be seen from our home. It continued for weeks on end and I have photos from the evening of 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:38.540 February 26th and March 3rd. This activity affected our quality of life as we had to keep our windows 00:10:38.540 --> 00:10:44.580 closed and had ash on our patio furniture and vehicles. More importantly this burning was highly 00:10:44.580 --> 00:10:51.040 illegal because it was unattended burning. While Zach left the massive fire and went to his home in Dakota 00:10:51.040 --> 00:10:58.420 We had to worry whether a spark or errant cinder would start a fire causing any or all of us to lose our homes. 00:10:58.740 --> 00:11:07.980 This activity only stopped when a concerned neighbor contacted the sheriff. This is the business owner your proposed provision would protect. 00:11:09.060 --> 00:11:19.960 This leads me to my next question. In addition to the fines and penalties imposed by the IEPA, a person experiencing property damage or injury can file a civil lawsuit. 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:46.440 can the county assure us that ZAC has insurance to cover this or is the county assuming the liability if you choose to allow this the IEPA reminds us that every even every exempted activity still triggers a violation if it causes air pollution. What you are considering here tonight is not in the best interest of many residents living in close proximity to a snowy created. 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:48.440 Thank you. 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:50.440 Want to submit that? 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:52.440 I certainly will. 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:54.440 Thank you. 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:56.440 Would you also like the pictures of the birding? 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:03.440 These photos were taken after Zach had gone home for the evening from my property. 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:11.780 It looked at clearly seeing there was a fire in the woods. 00:12:11.780 --> 00:12:13.780 Thank you. 00:12:13.780 --> 00:12:19.700 I'm Sharon Rivers. 00:12:19.700 --> 00:12:44.360 my approach is a little different but I agree with everything they said at the April 626 planning and development meeting I spoke reference ongoing concerns of Zach Jeffries not abiding by legal requirements procedures for the last year at his quarry located at 466 West Fairview Road. One topic I mentioned was the burning he'd been doing with the most recent fire burning 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:59.140 24-7, nonstop and unattended for two and a half weeks. At times, the heavy smoke lingered throughout the neighborhood, putting local residents with asthma, allergies, COPD, and other medical issues at high risk. 00:12:59.380 --> 00:13:11.820 The next day, on April 7th, Beth William's zoning director began working on a new county burn ordinance and within two weeks was requesting it being put on tonight's agenda for approval. 00:13:11.820 --> 00:13:37.620 citizens were not made aware. We only found out due to FOIAs done. Why the secrecy? I have tried to obtain a copy of the new state law. The proposed ordinance has been said to be based upon in a FOIA return. Mrs. Williams denied me info regarding her references stating the regulations are available online. She did not mention the statute or chapter. 00:13:37.620 --> 00:13:44.540 As of last night, even her supervisor, County Administrator, Georgia Newcomer, cannot locate it 00:13:44.540 --> 00:13:52.120 For Ms. Newcomer, Beth Williams, based her new ordinance on info received from an unknown source within the EPA 00:13:52.120 --> 00:14:00.880 Ms. Koch again at a P&D meeting two nights ago, 5-11-26, expressing continuing concerns 00:14:00.880 --> 00:14:07.540 Yesterday morning, Zach Jeffrey, obviously a retaliation, spent quite some time building 00:14:07.540 --> 00:14:15.800 in an extremely large pile of logs approximately 20 to 30 foot from my lane. It's about 25 to 30 foot high 00:14:15.800 --> 00:14:22.120 and 50 foot in circumference. Should he light it, we would not have ingress or egress and that's a major 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:28.980 fire hazard. I spoke with Zach at the bottom of our lanes yesterday. I asked why he's building the 00:14:28.980 --> 00:14:35.680 bird site there and not in the pit area. I requested he work with the neighbors. Again, the EPA has cited 00:14:35.680 --> 00:14:39.940 and Zach Jaffrey multiple times for violations. 00:14:39.940 --> 00:14:44.180 The county has done a little to force him into compliance for a year now. 00:14:44.180 --> 00:14:49.820 The lack of an occupancy permit should have shut him down, but realistically, he never should 00:14:49.820 --> 00:14:53.700 have been allowed to start operating without one. 00:14:53.700 --> 00:15:00.040 The prospective burn ordinance, as written, without coefficients or exceptions, being added 00:15:00.040 --> 00:15:06.380 to Ordinance 224-6 is detrimental to not just our neighborhood, but the county as a whole. 00:15:06.380 --> 00:15:10.340 Please come take a look so you're fully informed prior to voting. 00:15:10.520 --> 00:15:14.500 I've had to keep my gate shut, so if you call first, I'll let you up. 00:15:14.780 --> 00:15:16.400 You won't see much from the road. 00:15:17.140 --> 00:15:21.220 For if Zach's gate is open, consider driving down and speaking with him. 00:15:21.220 --> 00:15:21.860 Time's off it. 00:15:22.180 --> 00:15:22.520 Thank you. 00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:26.640 I'm going to take a picture of this with my phone, and then I'll give it to you, all right? 00:15:27.500 --> 00:15:28.800 You didn't give it to the rest of us. 00:15:28.800 --> 00:15:32.900 When you send the picture, we'll put it to the seats. 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:38.900 No, I'll give you this. I don't have a computer. I'll give you this, but I need a copy for myself. 00:15:38.900 --> 00:15:41.780 Okay. Thank you. 00:15:58.750 --> 00:16:08.030 My name is Kevin Sokup. I live just north of town, Fairview Road. I'm here to discuss my displeasure 00:16:08.030 --> 00:16:17.490 with the rapidity in which the changes to zoning ordinances 224-4 and 224-3 are being requested. 00:16:18.750 --> 00:16:24.670 In looking at the ordinances, definitions are definitely lacking. I don't know who can do what, 00:16:24.670 --> 00:16:33.670 when, or for how long, and it's just kind of a blanket, wide-open permit to burn whatever some 00:16:33.670 --> 00:16:55.870 guy wants to burn wherever, whether it's Zach Jeffries' quarry or anywhere else. I cannot tell what a business owner is. By definition, my wife is a business owner. Could I haul commercial or landscape waste into my property and start burning just because I'm a business owner? Nothing is really defined that way. 00:16:55.870 --> 00:17:09.650 Could a person in Stevenson County, like Jack Zephyr, haul waste in from Brockford or from Freeport or from anywhere else? 00:17:09.650 --> 00:17:20.250 There are no limitations on what is proposed to be happening over there, which means that he could fill that quarry with landscape waste and burn it, 00:17:20.250 --> 00:17:26.650 because it doesn't say how he's going to extinguish that fire in the evening. 00:17:26.650 --> 00:17:34.550 The coordinates only says from dawn till dusk, but if you're burning big logs, they burn for weeks. 00:17:34.730 --> 00:17:39.170 He was burning over there for weeks at a time with unattended fires. 00:17:39.790 --> 00:17:42.010 My mom had COPD. 00:17:42.690 --> 00:17:44.890 She could not breathe with oxygen. 00:17:45.870 --> 00:17:48.390 That residence area is about a half mile. 00:17:48.390 --> 00:18:14.510 there's at least 100 residences over there and I'll bet you any amount of money there are people with breathing disorders that burning large amounts of landscape waste would make very difficult for them to be outside. There's no way on earth that that should be allowed. Freeport doesn't allow. Are we going to haul all of our stuff out of Freeport out there to burn it out there? I disapprove of the way that this is going on. 00:18:14.510 --> 00:18:20.130 We haven't had enough time to even evaluate what's proposed in extreme detail. 00:18:21.450 --> 00:18:27.930 Permits, what permits are required for a business owner to perform this kind of waste burning? 00:18:28.630 --> 00:18:35.450 What restrictions are in place other than the dawn until dusk? Am I getting close? 00:18:36.410 --> 00:18:37.150 24 seconds. 00:18:37.230 --> 00:18:41.730 24 seconds. Monitoring and enforcement. Who's going to do the monitoring? 00:18:41.730 --> 00:18:50.210 that when he's burning something, it's not within the agricultural, commercial, or landscape waste. 00:18:50.510 --> 00:18:57.210 He could be burning anything out there and nobody would ever know because there's been no monitoring what's been happening at that point forever. 00:18:57.910 --> 00:19:00.330 And then the enforcement is a big deal. 00:19:00.330 --> 00:19:09.770 So I respectfully request that you guys delay voting on approval of this until after we've had time to evaluate it clearly. 00:19:09.770 --> 00:19:16.850 and if you would put a transcript of my comments into the minutes, I'd appreciate it, get it there. 00:19:17.250 --> 00:19:17.830 Thank you. 00:19:19.530 --> 00:19:21.070 I didn't speak loudly. 00:19:21.610 --> 00:19:21.990 That's okay. 00:19:22.470 --> 00:19:23.150 Just for that. 00:19:23.550 --> 00:19:24.830 It's a perfect routine thing. 00:19:24.930 --> 00:19:26.170 But it's great to speak fast. 00:19:26.330 --> 00:19:26.790 No, that's okay. 00:19:27.370 --> 00:19:27.610 Okay. 00:19:28.770 --> 00:19:31.890 Dr. Donald, did you have more to say? 00:19:32.890 --> 00:19:33.290 I don't know. 00:19:33.410 --> 00:19:34.330 Actually, I got it. 00:19:34.410 --> 00:19:35.010 I agree with that. 00:19:36.210 --> 00:19:37.530 Is there anyone else? 00:19:38.530 --> 00:19:39.250 We're good. 00:19:39.770 --> 00:19:52.570 Okay. All right. Thank you, everyone. All right. Let's keep moving here. We have 7.0 Departmental Reports and 7.1 County Treasurer. 00:19:53.050 --> 00:19:54.610 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You're welcome. 00:19:55.650 --> 00:19:58.610 First thing I just want to mention, and you did say... 00:19:58.610 --> 00:20:23.960 The first thing I just want to mention, and you did say that the claims were markedly less this month. I would like to point out that mine totaled all of $10. So when you see later the bills for when the tax bill roll in, just kind of recall this moment. So I'm assuming everybody has had a chance to review the finance report. I sent the link, I believe, Friday, May, referencing the cover page with the sales 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:31.640 and income taxes. Again, very steady, very reliable. And as the monthly report indicates, the aggregate 00:20:31.640 --> 00:20:38.900 receipts increased by over $23,000 from the previous month. And then last month was $33,000 from the 00:20:38.900 --> 00:20:48.960 previous month. So we're doing fairly well there. If you flip to page five, you will see that as of the 00:20:48.960 --> 00:21:18.940 at the end of the month, total county funds were down just 1.68% compared to March month, excuse me, March's month end, which is well below what you would expect in any month where there's no each accuracy. So again, holding more than steady. Back to the page with all the yellow. There's more yellow this month. We had eight investment vehicles matured in April. Pretty decent interest this time over $82,000. 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:47.600 primarily due to 9-1-1 CDs a year. So there was a lot of over $59,000 that was for 9-1-1. So and they have since the board has since asked me to reinvest two more in additional CDs for another six month term. So as of the end of April, we have 17 investments in place across 10 different county funds, maturity dates between now and next April. 00:21:47.600 --> 00:22:10.800 This week, I placed another $2.7 million in short-term investments. Rates are pretty steady between Treasury bills and federal home loan bank items. So I'm trying to skim as much interest as I possibly can for as long as I can. So because everything is chugging along well, unless you have any other questions about the report, I'm just, yes, Jeff? 00:22:10.800 --> 00:22:14.220 So you said 9-1-1 is really taking advantage of this 00:22:14.220 --> 00:22:14.880 Yes 00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:18.720 I know in the past other departments have tried to get in where they could 00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:22.720 Are you having much success now since it is open at a pretty good home? 00:22:23.280 --> 00:22:26.140 It is. Everything depends on cash flow 00:22:26.140 --> 00:22:33.780 And so previously I would ask County and Township Motor Fuel if we could really pull theirs in 00:22:33.780 --> 00:22:39.800 And now we can't do that because we're into, you know, their season 00:22:39.800 --> 00:22:45.540 but sometimes with townships there's a little you know there are a lot of township road supervisors so 00:22:45.540 --> 00:22:51.980 getting some consensus of them is a little difficult even though I manage money I still would like to have 00:22:51.980 --> 00:22:58.820 their input so that's been a little bit trickier but for the most part it's it's pretty easy to get 00:22:58.820 --> 00:23:04.440 people to participate but getting the rates that I do requires a larger balance than some of those funds 00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:11.560 to carry. So it has, at that level, it's not really doing better than the insured cash through accounts 00:23:11.560 --> 00:23:18.460 that I have on there. I try to get them in the best possible account that I can so that if they're not 00:23:18.460 --> 00:23:24.380 invested, at least their regular interest is better than all. Good question. Thank you, too. 00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:29.360 Thank you. Absolutely. All right. And then I'm going to move on to the collection side. 00:23:29.360 --> 00:23:32.760 Okay, this tax season is fully underway. 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:33.640 Yeah. 00:23:34.020 --> 00:23:38.600 So I received the final proofs, verifying those right now, got them today. 00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:41.440 Anticipated mail date is a week from today. 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:43.340 They will be mailed directly from our firm. 00:23:44.280 --> 00:23:48.840 The tax bill redesign, which I gave you all each an example here, 00:23:50.900 --> 00:23:57.140 allowed us not only to satisfy some new state requirements as to what must be on the back side, 00:23:57.140 --> 00:23:59.280 so here's the back side of the bill, 00:23:59.360 --> 00:24:19.240 Yeah, there's a lot happening there. The larger size gave me additional space to include answers to some pretty commonly asked questions and or to help us avoid some of the verbal abuse that we've had before. So we're hoping that these things spelled out clearly make it easier for people to understand. 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:46.140 And I'm really excited about being able to print in full color. So for the first time, I could include that high charge that we've had on our website in a while. So people can really get a better feel for where their tax dollars are going. And the color example I gave you, I think for some people is shocking. If you look at where 70% of this person's tax bill. 00:24:46.140 --> 00:25:16.100 she didn't even realize it until she looked at that so it's it's a little shocking so but I think you know we've always had the verbiage above but it's such small print nobody really wants to read it but I think that pie chart really gets someone's attention so that they do actually look up and read the fine print okay electronic notices for the bills will go out on May 26 which is the same bill the day 00:25:16.100 --> 00:25:21.640 that I'm posting the bills online. I do that so that anybody lost your bill, you want to print one 00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:27.040 directly, go right ahead and do that. We're, again, utilizing Invoice Cloud for electronic payment 00:25:27.040 --> 00:25:32.760 options. It includes all credit cards, debit cards, PayPal, PayPal Credit, Venmo, Apple Pay, Google Pay, 00:25:33.100 --> 00:25:39.660 EFTs. If you can use it to pay anything, we'll take it. And on the back side of the bill, you'll notice 00:25:39.660 --> 00:25:45.120 down here on each installment is a QR code that will take people to Invoice Cloud so that they can make 00:25:45.120 --> 00:25:52.000 any one of those payments they choose. And then for people who aren't as savvy, there's a phone number on the back. 00:25:52.060 --> 00:25:57.820 They can call and do the same thing. First installment, these are the big dates, June 26th. 00:25:58.060 --> 00:26:04.000 First staff is due then. Second installment, September 4th. Last day to pay taxes will be November 9th, 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:11.140 followed the next day by the annual tax sale. Annual information to banks went out today. Next will be 00:26:11.140 --> 00:26:16.040 maybe a hundred plus taxing districts receiving their distribution information from me. 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:23.860 So do you have any questions about that? It was a lot. I spoke quickly. Nothing really has changed other 00:26:23.860 --> 00:26:29.600 than the bill format itself. Our due dates are literally a day off of where they were last year 00:26:29.600 --> 00:26:35.720 only because I always keep them on Fridays. So we're trying to maintain as steady a shift as we 00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:40.980 possible to them. And just to let you know, I'm going to be out of the office all next week. 00:26:41.340 --> 00:26:48.700 Then I'm going to UCCI Leadership Academy to present on the tax cycle, which everybody is fascinated by. 00:26:48.800 --> 00:26:50.680 Mr. Monroe, wait, is it last year? 00:26:50.820 --> 00:26:54.640 It's a great presentation. I'm just like really, really solid. 00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:59.400 So, but my staff will be there should you need anything in a new time. 00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:01.220 Yeah, it looks great. 00:27:01.320 --> 00:27:03.320 This looks really great. I love the four-color. 00:27:03.320 --> 00:27:33.300 Me too. And, you know, the switching to the company, I think I mentioned this before, switching printers allowed me to go from a black and white letter size to a full color vehicle size. Lots of questions answered. Lots. Lots. Yes. Which is good. Yes. Yes. I'm sure I've missed one or two. So people will usually let me know. But I'll save a lot of phone calls. Yeah, I hope so. Yeah, I hope so. Yeah, we're pretty pleased with how they turned out. It was a little bit of, 00:27:33.320 --> 00:27:37.380 There was some heavy lifting to get there, but pretty pleased with the results. 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:39.380 That looks great. 00:27:39.540 --> 00:27:42.380 Is there a walkthrough of the new format on the website? 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:43.180 Not yet. 00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:48.280 I did not want to put the cart before the horse there, so I kind of do that with how to pay the bill. 00:27:48.280 --> 00:27:50.980 I have one of those, too, but kind of an arrow. 00:27:51.120 --> 00:27:51.820 Here's what this is. 00:27:52.760 --> 00:27:54.200 That is in the works. 00:27:54.380 --> 00:27:54.500 Good. 00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:58.700 As clearly as it is laid out, a how-to is always. 00:27:58.700 --> 00:28:07.560 I think, you know, your eyes are used to looking at a certain place, and so now you have to look somewhere else. So, thank you. Absolutely. In the works. 00:28:09.340 --> 00:28:12.220 That is all. Thank you. 00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:16.680 All right. Let's see here. County Clerk. 00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:21.500 She got a descendant of the board. 00:28:21.500 --> 00:28:24.940 coming back next month here. 00:28:24.940 --> 00:28:26.880 So I don't think there's anything else. 00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:32.000 It's basically what they've been doing here. 00:28:32.820 --> 00:28:35.280 So, like I said, we're between elections. 00:28:35.840 --> 00:28:37.900 So it's all, yeah, quiet time. 00:28:38.120 --> 00:28:46.120 And then the other one to think of as being supervisor of assessment 7.3. 00:28:47.280 --> 00:28:49.040 And they'll also send in report. 00:28:49.220 --> 00:28:50.820 That was pretty much standard. 00:28:50.820 --> 00:29:02.320 She's got a new employee, is learning fast and fitting it in the office very well, and she's doing field work, Camden. 00:29:07.320 --> 00:29:15.260 They've got seven townships that need to be reassessed, including Jefferson, Warren, Aaron, Kent, West Point, Bottoms, and Winslow, 00:29:15.260 --> 00:29:21.020 and then three, four counties will be reassessing properties in the city and they have to do 00:29:21.020 --> 00:29:29.180 a few things to help down and she's got a note in here about the death death thing so 00:29:32.940 --> 00:29:40.460 for the questions there's been people along here and seven point four county administrators 00:29:40.460 --> 00:29:51.740 I've got a report to, er, if you get on my own, that fell, there's the attachment on the agenda. 00:29:51.740 --> 00:29:54.300 Oh, okay. 00:29:54.300 --> 00:30:29.080 Okay, I could, if I could find it, I guess I didn't download that one, I didn't fix that, there it is, I didn't download that one, that's why it must be there, let's see what she's got here, bear with me, I don't see it, 00:30:30.340 --> 00:30:55.000 Now I got it. Okay. So Stevenson Nursing Center Court continued June 29th. R1 Land Bank unplanned meeting scheduled for 518. Sickage on site 420, 430, and 560. It's in the packet, but it was just for the YouTube folks, I guess. 00:30:55.000 --> 00:31:00.780 Step Up Program, sort of walk in the program end in May 10th. 00:31:00.780 --> 00:31:04.180 I don't know why. 00:31:05.420 --> 00:31:06.180 Are you? 00:31:06.760 --> 00:31:07.740 I'm probably at the bottom. 00:31:08.020 --> 00:31:09.380 I didn't even sign up. 00:31:09.500 --> 00:31:10.240 I think I couldn't. 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:13.340 I was like all gone. 00:31:16.340 --> 00:31:17.140 Holy blue. 00:31:17.180 --> 00:31:17.780 No excuses. 00:31:18.380 --> 00:31:18.660 All right. 00:31:18.660 --> 00:31:19.620 Oh, my gosh. 00:31:21.020 --> 00:31:21.740 Let's see. 00:31:21.860 --> 00:31:22.820 What else have you had? 00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:24.760 Solid Waste Program. 00:31:24.760 --> 00:31:45.670 and Jasmine, Carrie, and Isaac put together updated information for P&D. I've got department head meetings for the drawings and discussion for next year, and the shredding services will roll out with new receptions pretty much sitting over there. 00:31:45.670 --> 00:32:12.250 himself. And can you see we're up to 7.5 IT managers? Just an FYI, I have a meeting at 545, so if I step out after this, I'm not leaving for any reason. So I just want to update everybody. I think we finally got everything ironed out on the new ST-Coil-1 server. 00:32:12.250 --> 00:32:42.230 I've been working with some vendors in regards to that I had some DevNet issues in regards to the CAMA approval that you guys are going to approve here later this meeting I believe or at least discuss that's the software for Angie in her department things that they need so there were some issues there I had to do some back end work on the server to get that up and working and then when I got it up and working I found out they don't even have their full install done yet so I'm not for sure maybe 00:32:42.230 --> 00:33:11.670 if they've first seen a problem in the future. So we got that taken care of. Last night, I installed a new gal PC box in the circuit clerk's office for the public. And for you guys, that basically is what communicates to judiciary that everybody goes and looks at online from all the court cases and the records and such that needed an upgrade. So I did that last night, did some testing to make sure that it was filtering through out to judiciary. So everything's getting updated and such. 00:33:11.670 --> 00:33:33.270 So that is done as well. Just moving into a lot of, this is kind of the season where I start re-upping our contracts for the next year as far as the ticketing system. Our Microsoft office will go out for the quote and see what that's going to come back. They have given me a heads up that has increased, obviously, so I don't know if that price is going to land by the time we get there. 00:33:33.270 --> 00:34:01.390 but so I'm working on those basically for the next year. Outside of that just taking care of the normal break fix and we have some upgrades with certain switches throughout the network that we plan on getting upgraded just trying to be proactive you know and get ahead of stuff. So I'm always busy but I will say as of right now it's not too stressful. I mean it's good. 00:34:01.390 --> 00:34:30.970 Oh, one other update. County boardroom. Courthouse network has just been a mess from the beginning of time. We had trouble with a few county board meetings where things would just cut out and things would happen. Traced a bunch of wires throughout that building, found a bottleneck along in the network. I believe I removed that bottleneck, did a bunch of testing. And last month's meeting finally went off without a hitch. Everything worked. It was like it was supposed to be. We didn't really have any interference. 00:34:30.970 --> 00:34:50.030 there was nothing that crashed. So again, I'm going to knock on wood. I do believe that that problem is fixed and we will see how this month goes. But so far, all the testing and everything looks good and last month's meeting was fine. So outside of that, does anybody have any questions? 00:34:51.950 --> 00:34:59.490 Well, thank you for your service. I know there's a lot going on and I'm sure there's no, I'll say, issues at the board house yet. 00:34:59.490 --> 00:35:20.090 Yeah, it's just trying to undo years of multiple IT companies being in the building and one didn't report to the other what they were doing. And, you know, sometimes you find connections you didn't even know were there. So that's kind of been the fun part of tracing things out and following things through the beehive that is the network over there. 00:35:20.090 --> 00:35:49.970 Well, that's all. Let's jump on that. It's like an 8.2 quickly here so we can see that the AI usage policy, we're going to table that again. I don't know if our liability insurance has gotten a bunch of these that we're reviewing, but it's kind of get a backlog there as far as like their final approval on what I, they made some requested changes to our last one and I resent them what they asked for and I was just asking for 00:35:49.970 --> 00:36:18.550 final approval. I have yet to get that. So until we do and we know that they're signing off on it, I would say that we don't rush it and get there. The approval of the revised ADA upgrades, I would say we can take that off the agenda for now. Chairman Helms passed along a company that I looked into and they don't deal with government agencies, so they kicked me to someone else. But in the meantime, the mandated date for this has been extended a year. 00:36:18.550 --> 00:36:44.370 So now we are out till April of 2028. The plan is to be done way before then, but we have more time to really, you know, dig into this and get as many companies as we can to figure out what's the best fit cost-wise and for what we need. So as of right now, I'm going to continue to do the homework on that and continue to have the meetings, but that we're pushed out right away. So we'll get to that in a timely manner. 00:36:44.370 --> 00:36:55.330 and then if it doesn't look like the AI thing is going to get that off there as well, just bring it back. 00:36:56.130 --> 00:37:02.650 Oh, yeah. I followed up with them and I'm just not, I've kind of just, they're not replying as fast as they used to. 00:37:02.650 --> 00:37:06.250 So just let me know before next moment. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Perfect. 00:37:07.050 --> 00:37:12.270 All right. Let's keep moving here. 9.1, approval of addendum to agreement. 00:37:12.270 --> 00:37:17.350 of Canada, Edge License, Maintenance, and Support Contractor, DevNet. 00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:30.520 Okay. 00:37:31.900 --> 00:37:39.400 Angie, the supervisor of assessments, had in the bottom of her report, it is the contract 00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:41.140 tandem for DevNet. 00:37:41.720 --> 00:37:44.220 I need the upgrade in order to use my system. 00:37:44.220 --> 00:38:22.320 you'd ask him to get approved the extra funds for the upgrade for the 2026 budget as you can see the extra money is all it starts. One year, excuse me, one year over four equal payments. So now we are talking about the bottom here. Where's the numbers now? It looks like you've got four payments here approximately. 00:38:22.340 --> 00:38:35.800 to 900 in January, and then 48, 55, 48, 55, 48, 55, up until October 26th, if you might remember 00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:49.320 right, the increase on, actually next year is even lower, so that's a good deal, and then 00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:57.720 1 to 28 was basically no increase either, so, and then 1 to 29 was no increase either. 00:38:57.720 --> 00:38:59.280 Oh, that's a setup. 00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:00.280 Okay. 00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:01.280 Yeah. 00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:02.280 Oh, my God. 00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:17.280 So, yeah, since there's no increases for the next, I'm going to say, three years here, that's what it appears to me, and she's going to need this, so I'm going to make a motion to approve it. 00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:18.280 No, second. 00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:47.200 in a second. I have a question. You do? Okay. I do. Was this part of her budget? Yes. What did she say? They did a lot of it? Yeah. Oh, the end of her report. Okay, got it. Okay. I've been asking to approve the extra funds for the upgrade. So yeah, that's in her budget. If I remember right, she kind of gave us a warning this would be happening. Yes. This wasn't a surprise. 00:39:47.200 --> 00:39:53.360 is just, we've had to get it in this way, one of those necessary upgrades, so, okay, so we 00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:53.860 got a motion. 00:39:53.860 --> 00:39:54.480 Okay, so we got a motion in a second? 00:39:55.200 --> 00:39:55.480 Yep. 00:39:55.600 --> 00:39:56.560 Any other conversation? 00:39:57.440 --> 00:39:57.660 No. 00:39:57.980 --> 00:39:59.400 Okay, all those in favor say aye. 00:39:59.700 --> 00:39:59.900 Aye. 00:40:00.520 --> 00:40:12.260 So, okay, let's go to 9.2, Approval Code Amendment to Chapter 224-4, Virtual Trade Waste. 00:40:12.260 --> 00:40:41.790 I just want to start off. This is not a zoning code. This is an administration. It's been stated that it's zoning. It's not zoning has no skin in this game. I am referring to an email that I received from a Corey Jacobson with the IEPA. 00:40:41.790 --> 00:41:05.890 I did receive a complaint at Planning and Development last month. I checked with Mr. Jeffrey. He told me he was okay with IEPA. You don't always believe it. I contacted IEPA, emailed, I emailed Brooke and Corey, I guess I have the same problem, I'm sorry, Brooke Schumacher, and asked if we needed the state care. 00:41:05.890 --> 00:41:29.070 I said reaching out with another question. Currently we have in our code commercial trade waste illegal burn commercial waste in the state of Illinois except for landscape and agricultural waste generated on the property. And then B is landscape waste for the purpose of playing land new development business as a trade waste and may only be burned with an air curtain incinerator after and after obtaining the appropriate EPA permits. 00:41:29.070 --> 00:41:45.070 I was informed that this language may be outdated and we have a quarry owner that is clearing trees on his property and burning them. The adjacent landowner stated he is required to have an air curtain incinerator and obtain EPA permits. Could you confirm this or lead me to the updated EPA language? 00:41:45.070 --> 00:42:12.150 So Brooks said to me, I believe, I believe, but we'll let Corey let you know, confirm. So then Mr. Jacobson did reply back to me and stated, if the county has less than 50,000 in population, a company can bring landscape waste to their place of business and burn. His understanding is that the place of business must be registered with the Secretary of State. This was passed at the beginning of 2025, so our office was not aware of this until the fourth quarter. 00:42:12.150 --> 00:42:29.310 Back in 2024, the zoning department went through the ZBA and we removed business owner from that portion of the code because the EPA stated at that time, business owners were not allowed to haul in. 00:42:29.970 --> 00:42:33.010 They were only to burn what was generated on the property. 00:42:33.570 --> 00:42:41.390 So after receiving this email from Mr. Jacobson, I went ahead and changed it back to what we had as business owner. 00:42:41.390 --> 00:43:04.650 It has been reviewed by council. Nothing came of it. And then the section that says all ordinances or part of ordinances in conflict with this amendment are hereby repealed to the extent of such conflict. That means any other preceding ordinances in the past. So those are all null and void. This would be the ordinance. 00:43:04.650 --> 00:43:25.590 There was a question about a business. The business has to be licensed within the Secretary of State. You can go right online and look up businesses. I do for adjacent for property owners that call me and say, hey, does this person have a license? We know Stevenson County does not require a license. I'll do that for them. And we go from there. 00:43:25.590 --> 00:43:35.170 Okay. So, that is that. What questions do you have on it that I could possibly answer? 00:43:37.770 --> 00:43:41.490 I have a lot of questions. 00:43:41.710 --> 00:43:41.810 Sure. 00:43:43.370 --> 00:43:46.870 And I'd like to make a motion just to table this until this. 00:43:46.930 --> 00:43:47.350 I agree. 00:43:47.970 --> 00:43:55.510 There's just too many what ifs, too many undefinable things at this point. 00:43:55.510 --> 00:43:57.950 Okay. I'd like to table it up to the next one. 00:43:58.070 --> 00:43:58.390 I agree. 00:43:58.530 --> 00:43:59.210 I'll second that. 00:44:00.350 --> 00:44:02.390 Is there still discussion or not? 00:44:02.390 --> 00:44:05.810 We can have this going before we go around that. That's perfect. 00:44:05.930 --> 00:44:11.470 Okay. I just wanted to point out this. We have landscape companies that are in violation currently. 00:44:12.210 --> 00:44:20.330 If, you know, if someone receives a call, then they have to enforce, I'm assuming. We have a lot of companies. 00:44:20.330 --> 00:44:26.710 I have a gentleman in my area that has a business and brings landscape waste to his property and burns as well 00:44:26.710 --> 00:44:32.850 I have asthma, severe asthma, and I close my windows when my husband burns out in the yard 00:44:32.850 --> 00:44:34.310 I can't even sit around a campfire 00:44:34.310 --> 00:44:40.570 And I understand, I do understand, it's not geared at one specific area of the county 00:44:40.570 --> 00:44:46.290 That many people seem to think we're doing this as a county as a whole because we did have it 00:44:46.290 --> 00:44:51.510 I know it doesn't look like that, but it's just the county as a whole. 00:44:52.870 --> 00:44:53.050 Yes. 00:44:53.270 --> 00:44:55.310 And there's, yeah. 00:44:56.030 --> 00:45:03.570 Whatever we decide on next month, if we do make a change, it affects the whole county. 00:45:04.410 --> 00:45:04.790 It does. 00:45:04.790 --> 00:45:12.590 And so these landscapers who are already in violation, who is the governing body to come in and find them? 00:45:12.990 --> 00:45:15.970 Any office of the county? 00:45:16.290 --> 00:45:22.670 our code states that any environmental health could write a ticket. My office could write a ticket of 00:45:22.670 --> 00:45:29.830 civil police animal control. I am not aware of the sheriff's department. The sheriff's department, 00:45:30.090 --> 00:45:35.630 yes. I have asked the sheriff's department to have a citation written for an illegally burned house 00:45:35.630 --> 00:45:44.790 and it has not been written yet. So that's the issues we do have. I understand it's a big deal. 00:45:44.790 --> 00:45:48.070 It's not something to be taken lightly, and I don't take it lightly either 00:45:48.070 --> 00:45:52.930 We just have to, I just wanted to make the point that there is no air curtain incinerator 00:45:52.930 --> 00:45:55.530 that's required by the EPA anymore 00:45:55.530 --> 00:46:03.020 Yeah, I did some digging as well looking for the new stuff 00:46:03.020 --> 00:46:09.360 I think I found it on the EPA thing, and then I found some older verbiage 00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:11.640 Right, I can find these back to 1982 00:46:11.640 --> 00:46:15.240 So they have an updated thing, so it's confusing for anybody 00:46:15.240 --> 00:46:18.980 Yes, that's why I reached directly out to the gentleman in Rockford. 00:46:19.120 --> 00:46:22.140 Do we have an EPA representative for this area? 00:46:22.460 --> 00:46:24.860 Yeah, Corey Jacobson and Brooke Schumacher over in Rockford. 00:46:24.860 --> 00:46:29.040 Okay, so these are the two that you're conversing with. Maybe they need to come out. 00:46:30.740 --> 00:46:31.880 I don't know if they will. 00:46:32.060 --> 00:46:43.920 Well, maybe they need to come out and answer. I mean, we have a lot of questions. We have a lot of concerns. I mean, I myself have half a lung. I can't sit anywhere. 00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:52.400 You know, where there's fire. So I get this, you know. I live in the city, though, so there's ordinances there. 00:46:52.400 --> 00:47:02.800 Right. And we do currently allow the city to burn in the unincorporated areas of the county. The city takes all their leaves out to the airport and burns, and we can't do anything about it. 00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:17.410 Yeah, I think I agree. We need to kind of get this over. I was trying to put some language together. That might work, but maybe there's some other issues. 00:47:17.710 --> 00:47:20.930 Right. I can reach out to Corey tomorrow. I'm broke. Yeah. 00:47:21.430 --> 00:47:28.350 Do you want me to include you in the email? Please. I feel like we need to hear it from them, and we need to get information from them. 00:47:28.350 --> 00:47:44.190 And if there is a requirement because of changing state policies that we have to adhere to, I want that to the T, what we specifically need to do, because the email does it. 00:47:44.710 --> 00:47:47.130 Right. We don't have to change our policy. 00:47:47.130 --> 00:47:49.990 And that's where I think some of the confusion is coming from. 00:47:50.390 --> 00:47:57.770 Right. No, we don't have to, but to keep businesses in Stevenson County, you know, I mean, yes, I understand Mr. Jeffrey is bringing in. 00:47:57.770 --> 00:48:20.050 And that's the question. How do you know where it's coming from? It could be coming from Rockets. If he's burning something other than landscape waste, if he is burning appliances, my neighbor burned appliances. We called the sheriff. I don't know at that time if anything was done. I called the EPA and he was cited and fined a hefty fine because they can go on a property. 00:48:20.050 --> 00:48:27.050 So if there's chemical smell, I advise them to call the EPA and the Sheriff's Department ASAP 00:48:27.050 --> 00:48:32.290 That will keep the really mad stuff going 00:48:32.290 --> 00:48:34.530 At that point, it's already in the air 00:48:34.530 --> 00:48:35.570 Well, I get it 00:48:35.570 --> 00:48:36.170 I mean 00:48:36.170 --> 00:48:40.810 That's good 00:48:40.810 --> 00:48:41.930 Right 00:48:41.930 --> 00:48:42.530 Okay 00:48:42.530 --> 00:48:48.150 Well, I think we're all in agreement, but let's hold on to tabling this until next month 00:48:48.150 --> 00:48:49.150 Aye. 00:48:49.150 --> 00:48:50.150 You're going to say aye. 00:48:50.150 --> 00:48:51.150 Aye. 00:48:51.150 --> 00:48:53.150 That one, Ms. Hayes first? 00:48:53.150 --> 00:48:54.150 Okay. 00:48:54.150 --> 00:48:55.150 Okay. 00:48:55.150 --> 00:49:00.150 We still have the 9.3 on our agenda here. 00:49:00.150 --> 00:49:04.150 That's the pleasure of the committee. 00:49:04.150 --> 00:49:06.150 Motion to table in conjunction. 00:49:06.150 --> 00:49:07.150 Thank you. 00:49:07.150 --> 00:49:09.150 I'll second that one. 00:49:09.150 --> 00:49:23.990 So, I think that both of these need to be reviewed and we'll get the understanding and the actual legislation or the rules that they put in place. 00:49:25.110 --> 00:49:34.830 Also, it appears, from what I found, that we can also impose some other restrictions as well. 00:49:34.830 --> 00:49:50.250 Well, we've got to be, you know, realistic until it doesn't get somebody out of business or do something like that, but we also want to be fair and try to make everybody happy, which is probably impossible. 00:49:50.870 --> 00:49:51.950 Okay, thank you. 00:49:51.950 --> 00:49:53.800 So if you're burning chemicals, should you do business? 00:49:53.860 --> 00:49:55.400 No, chemicals, obviously. 00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:58.160 Or appliances that have all the crap. 00:49:58.260 --> 00:49:59.400 That's not what we're talking about. 00:49:59.520 --> 00:49:59.980 Well, but. 00:50:00.100 --> 00:50:01.000 We're talking about. 00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:03.320 Well, if a business is doing that. 00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:06.720 Commercial waste and land space, that's what we're talking about. 00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:07.020 Right. 00:50:07.020 --> 00:50:08.280 And that applies to everyone. 00:50:08.500 --> 00:50:13.420 So anything other than that is EPA and sheriff's department right away. 00:50:14.200 --> 00:50:16.860 That's, yeah, that's definitely old people right now. 00:50:17.120 --> 00:50:17.940 So, yeah. 00:50:17.940 --> 00:50:21.320 Okay, so we got a motion and a second, right? 00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:22.240 I have a second one. 00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:23.840 Okay, all of those in favor say aye. 00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:24.180 Aye. 00:50:24.640 --> 00:50:30.420 So let's table until next month or until we have, we'll talk about it next month as well. 00:50:31.040 --> 00:50:34.200 We have some kind of understanding before we need to go with this. 00:50:35.020 --> 00:50:36.520 Okay, thank you, everyone. 00:50:36.520 --> 00:50:43.640 All right, let's go on to 9.4, approval of engagement letter with low-inbound law. 00:50:43.640 --> 00:51:11.400 I have that contract as well as there was an email from Georgia if I can find it. Basically, Mr. Lomba has gone on his own and it's a renewal of a current service so council said we didn't have to send this back out for like bid for everybody. 00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:19.440 and I think the rates, if I can find this, the rates that he's charging was I think actually 00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:23.020 less than what we were currently doing now that he went up and sold. 00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:31.720 So I think it's kind of a no-brainer to prove this, but we can have more conversation if needed 00:51:31.720 --> 00:51:54.920 to be. So this is this is to retain them for council and their scope of services and his hour and rate is 500 and some other things that I believe this has been reviewed as well. 00:51:54.920 --> 00:51:58.260 And has Carl looked at him? 00:51:58.460 --> 00:51:58.740 Yes. 00:51:59.600 --> 00:52:06.920 Yeah, we didn't need, Carl said we didn't need to send this out since it was a space and they were also in current service. 00:52:07.200 --> 00:52:07.360 Right. 00:52:07.660 --> 00:52:11.420 Just cleaning up of some of the paperwork more than anything else. 00:52:11.940 --> 00:52:13.520 So, all right. 00:52:13.600 --> 00:52:14.960 So pretty tight, right, I think. 00:52:15.080 --> 00:52:16.900 So I'm going to make a motion to approve this one. 00:52:17.720 --> 00:52:18.160 I'll second. 00:52:18.340 --> 00:52:18.860 And a second. 00:52:19.100 --> 00:52:21.720 Mr. Rottero, do you need further conversation? 00:52:22.260 --> 00:52:22.480 Aye. 00:52:23.180 --> 00:52:23.440 Okay. 00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:24.800 All those in favor say aye. 00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:32.860 All right, so moved then. All right, 10.0. Comments from committee members, anything? 00:52:33.620 --> 00:52:49.240 Yeah, I'd just like to say, kind of reflecting on the past few months, for being the paperwork committee, we're getting a lot of interest from the community. I think that's really interesting. 00:52:49.240 --> 00:53:11.720 Yeah, really, really good. That's just for the record. I think that's great that we're getting engagement on the face of it are some pretty mundane things, but they do have an important impact, an important ramification, and the people know that. That seems, given our past three or so meetings, that seems worth pointing out. 00:53:11.720 --> 00:53:41.500 Yeah, I mean, I'll just comment, I was thinking about saying something Thursday night, too, but I mean, we had several tornadoes go through, you know, we had one in Troll City and then Lena, and I mean, it was just amazing with all the people that came in and helped, and as part of that help, believe me, I was out there helping for quite a bit, but there was a lot of trees and things getting hauled out and getting burned 00:53:41.500 --> 00:53:47.580 that was under the emergency order that allowed that burning and stuff. 00:53:47.860 --> 00:53:55.600 So I don't know if any of this material that came from Lena was taken out to that quarry or anything. 00:53:55.700 --> 00:54:02.440 I don't know any of those details, but there was a lot of good hands and good people out there helping these last two weeks. 00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:10.080 And they're still working. I know that. So we'll try to come up with a thing that works for everybody if we can. 00:54:10.080 --> 00:54:34.400 I'd like to just thank you all for coming out tonight it's wonderful to get a perspective like Adam said I mean we don't we sit here in the paperwork committee we don't get a lot of feedback so thank you for coming out and sharing your thoughts on this we appreciate it sounds like we need to get t-shirts right paperwork committee take it out of Nate's budget 00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:41.160 All righty, let's wrap this up, 11.01 adjournment. 00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:42.440 All right, make that motion. 00:54:42.740 --> 00:54:44.440 In a second, all those in favor, say aye. 00:54:44.740 --> 00:54:44.960 Aye. 00:54:45.560 --> 00:54:48.000 Okay, thanks everyone, appreciate it. 00:54:48.620 --> 00:54:49.300 Thank you. 00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:50.920 Thank you. 00:54:53.040 --> 00:54:54.140 Lou Ann, do you have a minute? 00:54:54.940 --> 00:54:55.660 I do. 00:54:55.840 --> 00:54:56.980 Can I talk to you? 00:54:58.060 --> 00:54:58.580 Maybe.