Public Works Committee for Stevenson County. It's Thursday, June 11th, 5 o'clock. I'd like to call the meeting to order. Item 2.0 is the approval of the agenda. Do I have a motion to approve it? So moved. Bill and Mr. Myro, seconded by Mr. Jogerst, any discussion? With none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion to approve. Item 4.0, no, sorry, 3.0 review and approval of the meeting minutes from last month, May 14th.

that motion to approve the meeting minutes are moved by Mr. Jogerst, seconded Mr. Myrtle, any discussion?

Seeing none, all those in favor of the meeting minutes are approved.

Item 4.0 is the approval of the claims this month.

We have $550,915.08.

It's a pleasure to have made it.

Move approval.

Second.

I have a motion to approve and a second, any discussion, questions, concerns? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion is approved. 5.0 is public comments. Is there anyone here tonight to address the committee?

and I just brought some information what we were trying to do was to see if the committee would consider permitting for our trailers to go in there. Pull some stuff together. I can hand that out.

Sure.

And basically, let's just...

Basically, just the information from you shows that The difference between a five-axle trailer and a six-axle trailer at $105,000 versus $80,000, it's not as drastic as it sounds. The weight per square inch per tire is not that much different than an $80,000 contract going down the same roads.

and the amount of loads hauled compared to what we were hauling to what we are hauling is two to one.

We haul three loads a day now, sometimes four, and before we were at two, maybe two and a half.

There's not a permit available right now.

There is one available right now, but it's $450 a day.

Obviously, that's not something that's economical for any trucking company.

to pass along to the farmer or the plant that's in your county.

So I was just hoping that maybe it would be taken into consideration that I don't know if it would be something that would be possible to do individual permits as far as chart and company in general rather than offer it to everybody.

or if it's something that maybe there was an amount of money that wasn't $450 a day that would be beneficial for both sides to do that.

And I know there was discussions with this that it may be put back on the newest or cases plate, but in most places that we permit, it goes directly to the company itself because they're the ones responsible for the equipment going down So this is just my opportunity to put something in front of you to show what the differences are, and then it's not as drastic as it sounds. It's not heavy trucks wrecking your guys' drones, because we do have more axles that are equivalent to maybe a little bit more, but not anything that would be the cause of the damage in your nose.

so it was just something that I thought I would put in front of you guys that maybe you'd consider I don't know if that's how that process works or anything like that.

Again, the idea that you work with the hiring department like Ryan and Dale is very capable to answer and if that's on their judgment if there's a policy change that we need to look at and that will come.

Yeah, let me look this over and we'll put on the agenda for the next fund works to many meetings about whether to do what we can do.

That would be greatly appreciated.

Okay.

Thanks, everybody.

Appreciate your time.

Thanks, everybody.

Anyone else?

Moving on to 6.0 is the Department of Reports and 6.1 is animal control.

All right. So cat intake for May was 58 total. Out of those 58, 35 were transferred to rescues, four were adopted. One was reclaimed. It was actually a cat that made it from Stockton to Freeport, hitched a ride on in a vehicle, axle or engine.

and I don't know. Five are adaptable currently. We have 11 on hold, which are anything under eight weeks old or pregnant. We have two in foster. And we took 23 dogs in. We have 11 of them were reclaimed. One went to rescue. 10 are on hold, which includes a mom and her nine puppies. And one was adapted.

in. Current animals we have are eight cats that are adoptable, 13 are on hold, two are in foster, one is boarding still, 24 total. Dogs we have five adoptable, two on hold. I'm sorry, we have vomit pups too. One foster and we have eight. I should say we have eight at the animal school. At the building we have Stella with her nine babies that were born on Memorial Day. She was picked up Thursday before Memorial Day, very right now, obviously, and she had them on Memorial Day. So they're two weeks old now.

As far as court cases and her crisis case went for a bench trial, they found them guilty for two of the running at large tickets and the rest were not guilty. Mary's case, nothing really happened.

On the 22nd of May, Iowa County Convenience Society in Dodgeville pulled seven dogs, eight cats, and seven kittens from us, a total of 22 animals.

Two of the dogs were, or I should say, three of the dogs were long-term dogs. One was with us since January of 26, no, 25.

the one was the court case little chihuahua and the other one was with us since August of 25 so out of those dogs I think they placed like five or six animals are different and they're willing to I basically had a current inventory sheet I sent it to her kind of like this and she's like I highlighted the ones I wanted I'm like it would have been easier if you highlighted the ones you didn't want it was like all yellow I'm like I'm for that So I did transport them. So Louie got a workout. She had 22 animals in her. She did good. We got them there. It was fun. As far as the building, I have most of the stuff from the animal hospital moved over. As soon as we get internet over there, I will move computers and stuff and I will move the cats over once I'm over there.

so I can take care of them. Right now I'm going over there to take care of mama obviously but once we get internet and I can actually work out of there we will move the cats over. Kennels he said they are going to be shipped on Wednesday of next week and he will give me a tracking number once that is what I reached out to him because it was like crickets after Memorial Day and I'm like um you said you would send me pictures and I've seen nothing he's like oh yeah they're getting packed they're ready to go and he still had the lamb road address so I had to correct that again and say they go here so he said he got that fixed too um Nia has been working with me for about a month now and she's picking up the software really nice she's actually been going to the career college on Thursdays for me so I don't have to cut my day and she can go pick up and drop off and that's nice. She's going to start working Mondays because she does babysit on Mondays but now school's out so she can do Mondays and Thursdays and eventually she'll pick up more hours once we're in the building.

I did put the ending balance on the sheet so I didn't have to at least set a paper for it by itself. May has the holiday in it so numbers are a little low because of the Memorial Day. Otherwise for the year we're doing good still.

Well, pickups went up because we had that big pickup that the dogs were a repeat offender so he had to pay the $5,500 I did have I guess there was an incident in McConnell that I just found out today where two dogs were running loose and killed a cat and then I guess the dog that one of the dogs got hit on McConnell Road or Orangeville Road so I have to do investigation on that and then there's some issues in write-out with dogs running at large and going after people walking their dogs so there have been three incidents in the last month two are the same dogs doing it so we might end up have to deem them dangerous they can't follow rules and keep them in their house so it sounds like they're one time they opened the door somehow and went after them and so So, yeah, got to go.

Otherwise, the claims were the normal and then our least quarterly lease for shelter boss, our rabies tags.

And I did have a lady reach out to me this week about a program that she has for tags.

And I'm going to set up a demo with her to see what it's like, if it's how much money.

Sounds like it might be free. And it depends on how our program, if we can pull from that and it's not re-entering again. I don't think we want to do that. But if they can maybe, Nate, if it's one that we can transfer over, it's free and it's about the same. So she's going to give me an e-call me next week and get something set up. So I'll have more next meeting for that.

The Meadows Drive, Albert Towing, Tracy Holberg did a check, Lions Club didn't, that was in April, but they did, that's the second Lions, Cedarville Lions that donated, and then I also put the arrow quote and stuff in there for you, so you had it, but then that's that.

Questions? Concerns? Information you want from this month?

What was the result of those two guilty findings?

He got a year of court supervision and fines and court costs. I think it was $200. It wasn't like $300. And that would go not towards us. We didn't do the tickets the sheriff's did. So I think both cases were a year.

a year piece, and then the fines per case.

I have a question.

More of a concern, I guess, than a question.

But surrenders at 33 and city strays at 17 is 50.

Did we get anything for that?

So the reason the city dogs are on there, we actually don't.

we just do the paperwork to the cats sorry oh the cats we really don't get the dog wise we really don't physically take the dogs in we just we've been doing the paperwork because they fall through the cracks and a few of them have come county series and then we don't have the paperwork proven they were picked up before and in order for us to say that dog needs to be fixed because if they're picked up twice they should be fixed we don't have any paper trail because the city didn't do paper trail so we just when they come to the animal hospital for the microchip which is one of our microchips technically we buy them but obviously the owners pay for them we've just been doing paperwork so we have a paper trail of those dogs too the cat wise no we don't we haven't I bet they most of the cats go to rescue how long did the city streets stay at the city the dogs or the cats they don't have a place for the cats. They all go to the animal hospital. That's why it's going to change when we move.

Yeah, I think what we've talked before about talking to the city about doing an intergovernmental agreement.

Yeah, because we're not. It's high time. Yeah. They're not going over there unless we have it.

Okay. Is that what you mean by it's going to change? Yes. Yes. They're on their own. And the animal Hospital already told them that they're not because right now our license is technically the animals at the animal hospital because that's where our animals are in June the license will be at Meadows Drive and they won't have a license at the animal hospital well if we're still if we're still there they will until we move but I already talked to Department of A and he knows once our animals are out there. There's no, that license is no longer theirs. It's, I mean, with that building, it's ours, because it's our license. So the city is going to have to, and they did, the animal hospital did send them something saying.

So what happens to the animals that are at the animal hospital now that came from the city once we move?

I'm hoping there's going to be none, to be honest, and just be the surrenders and the county strays.

I know what we're hoping, but what's the reality? If they're there, are they coming with you?

We'll have to discuss that, I guess. I mean, I would think so, but...

Okay. So I'll give it to Mayor.

Yeah, we need something. Because the problem, again, is, okay, right now, if a dog gets put down, aggressive, mainly aggressive dogs. Dr. Connie used to have a company that would pick the dogs up and they would go to the schools to be used. Well, that company is no longer.

So that bill is going to have to be paid by somebody. So right now, if we do take a city dog over, and that dog has to be put down, they get the bill. And same way with, if it's a county dog, we, Dr. Connie, I mean, he basically needs the cost for that. So that's another thing we're going to have to think about, too, is if we have to put a dog down, I want to talk to walkers.

Dr. Kahn is still looking for a company, but we don't put that many down, but if we do have to put one down should you commit making sure we'll open on July 1st? As long as the dog camels are here? Yes.

All right.

I can have the dogs and everything. As long as I have internet, I can have the cats over and the office. I don't want this to go any longer than July. I don't either. You've been paying rent for six months without utilizing that building. So some way, somehow it needs to be up and going by July 1st. The other issue is once you're in that other building, until there's an airgovernmental agreement, city of Freeport, they call you to pick up a dog or a cat. You can't do it.

Right. Okay. That's fine. I don't pick them up anyways. They bring them, but okay.

You can't accept them. They can't go away until we can't work out who's going to pay for it.

Okay. Because you don't have money in your budget to cover that expense.

No. And honestly, from the people that I'm talking to that live in the city, they're not doing any trapping anymore for wildlife or anything. So what is whatever money they're are getting or going to for animal control because they're not even doing that.

But before I get that IGA, if you accept animals before that IGA, I have no leg to stand out when I'm negotiating with them.

We haven't honestly pulled a dog from them.

And like I said, these are dogs that just we did paperwork for.

Am I okay to still do the, like, we do the paperwork?

Yeah.

Okay.

As long as there's not an expense that's involved No, it's just making sure we have paperwork on them Well, I'll give myself a note, I'll call her in the morning Cindy, you're at the bottom of your sheet where it has the any dialysis Yes Where does that come from?

I can't remember Stephanie Okay or Adrian usually but Stephanie I think did it because Adrian wasn't in his office when I asked for it so I just put it on So I just put it on the bottom, otherwise it was going to be one sheet by itself And I'm like My pull-ups, Chairman Helms' monthly report, Fund 16, there's $32,600 in there, right?

Yeah, but it's $35,000 That's what she gave me So it might be like a deposit that wasn't in, like that was supposed to be for me There was one deposit I think that I took, like the third so that might be added into mine that was technically or I'll pay if I don't if she doesn't know where it goes I'm thinking that's where it is.

The other concern I have is this is your monthly revenues from each one of the backlinks that are collecting.

Correct.

and year to date it shows we're off $1,000 but I look at the monthly report here from the treasurer we're down like 9,000 in just the last month so even a month ago we were just under 42,000 we're down to 32,006 so just trying to get a feel for where the extra expenses come from Oh, I see some gas and I see some other things, but it doesn't seem like an answer.

Okay. Might be adding a payroll person too.

That's perhaps where it is because we don't get, we don't see it.

Yeah. Yeah. Cause she's, I don't, I can't remember what day we ended up. She's been at least a month.

two papers, if it's okay, yeah, need to do a little housekeeping on the website, they're still showing a number of unorthodox donations from a while ago, oh, shoot, I should have, did you send that to, yeah, so, okay, and I know I sent it to everybody about AutoSmart wanting to do a pet event for us too. And we're looking at August 22nd is the date we'll do it. It's just the beginning stages. I'm going to try to get K9 to do a demo and face painting and stuff like that. And then we'll have some of our adoptable dogs out there. Depending on what we have for cats, we'll see.

and they have to be a really special cat to be able to go there. The dogs will be leashed in that. I'm not going to have anybody in crates to take the risk of getting free and getting on the road. If we do take a cat, they will be harnessed and leashed and in a cage type thing. But we're looking at different things and we're going to try to get some baskets together and do like a raffle type thing. Any ideas would be great. I'm just trying to think of like different demos that people would like. I'm going to talk to him. There was a lady that brings her sheep to the Cedarville Lions stuff. I thought, well, that'd be kind of cool to have a little petting zoo if he's okay with it. Everything's like we just talked about it on Tuesday. So everything's fresh. Do you have any other fundraising plans? Not right now. Did you talk about a golf outing? No. I might go and watch the weather for those golfers. I see a lot of laughing. Maybe Brush Creek, or wait, it's not Brush Creek anymore. On a serious note, you should think about other things that you're going to do through the summer because the time goes fast.

so there's no reason to recreate the wheel, see what other roles are doing to raise money other counties. I'm sure you can piggyback off that. The law founding is a great idea. They're incredibly expensive and incredibly labor-intensive. Right. You just went to one.

It's just a lot of work. It's not good. They raise a lot of money, but a lot of work. Great idea.

I'm sure Larry wins mine to do all the work.

When are we putting this on?

If I had any time.

Anybody else have any questions for Kristen at this time?

Can I ask how much we're in the claims for animal control that you approved tonight?

For animal control specifically, just animal control.

She said $2,479.07.

that's with an old thing that I've missed on VAS.

We will be talking about this again a little bit later in the meeting, but do you have a firm handle on the installation of the fiber optics?

I think Vaughn signed the contract, so it's in Nate's hands now.

I know he told me that he confirmed that he had gotten a signed document and sent it to Eric at the date, but I He was at the courthouse all day today I just know that she said, I figured out how to sign it Because she wasn't going to come down and sign it, she was able to do it online, so Is your point of reference, July 1st, which was yesterday is good.

Yeah.

Everybody else is good.

Moving on.

6.2 is the highway department.

Last month we paved on McConnell Road between Fulke and Dakota Road, and we paved three-quarters of a mile for Rock Throat Townships last week.

So we've done some ditch cleaning on Lauren Road, South Kent Road, Shoulderstone on McConnell Road and Bolton Road, straight in front of probably three-fourths of a guardrail, we've got a little bit left to do, been mowing, and then some tree cleaning up from storms, and of course, some patching puddles.

How much road did you go on Rock Road before?

On what?

Rock Grove.

For Rock Grove Township.

Yeah.

There's about three or four miles.

Yeah.

Other than that, it's been a month.

Questions for God.

Thank you.

Dale.

Okay, you got your Highway Department update.

I've highlighted any changes from the last month.

And I think there was a little better for West Point Red Road Frosting Project.

Martin's Lowbidder for the West Point Township Bridge Project, and then the joint agreement will be locally executed for the McConnell Road Project, and those are all action items that comes up further in the agenda.

Payment preservation program.

When I came here, we set up a six-year program for payment preservation.

Payment preservation, the measures we did to preserve it was either seal cold work or coal and plate recycling, coal and plate recycling.

So you fill up about four inches of material and oil to it, lay it back down, then we do a double fill over it.

Then we extended that a couple, two or three years ago.

That took it all the way through next year.

So we just put together a new program that should go beyond that.

So it's something you end up sending the whole program to IDOT.

and I have to approve it.

If you remember with the previous one, anything that required full-depth recognition, there's nothing there to preserve.

It's already gone.

So we don't use the pavement preservation programs to fix them.

So we got, at the time of the window program, we had like $14, $16 million worth of unfunded projects that we couldn't have money for.

So we found special funding for them.

It came from the general funds.

There was a program that I'd have put out was for RBI funds.

We had some COVID relief funds and money from the general fund.

And then I'd add another program for local project funds.

So with that special funding, we were able to take care of Baileyville Road from Montague up to Lamb Road.

We did all of Cedarville from what we're going to be finishing up the last section of that.

that goes from Galena Road all the way over to Route 26, and then McConnell Road from 26 over to Abhockey. We got special funding for those. They didn't have anything, any money to do, Dakota Road or Rock Road Road, so we carried those over. And then if you look at the new program, I'll kind of go over the criteria that was I'll kind of go over the criteria that we set up for this.

We have an increase, when I set up the original program, it was for $750,000 a year.

We're getting an increase of federal funds, so we can do about a million dollars a year.

And then federal funds are 80-20, so it's $800,000 a year in federal funds with a $200,000 match.

So, our criteria was to, we wanted to do a seal coat every year, and then, excuse me, a coal and blade recycling every year, and then any place, anything that we did CIR last year, you want to put a third seal coat on top of that to help preserve it.

So our criteria was CIR first and then we did some CIR code work afterwards.

So we prioritized the projects by the condition of the pavement and the traffic count.

Higher traffic count, we wanted to take care of those roads first.

So we set up a new program and I know the chart just probably doesn't mean too much to you, but we use all this information to help us put together our needs so but Scott, myself and Kate went through and evaluated all the roads in the county and that about the eighth column over to CR that's a condition rating. Condition rating goes from zero in terrible pavement to 90 and perfect. So if you see we went through and looked at what the pavement was looked like And when the first time around, we had nothing worse than about a four.

McConnell Road dropped down to a three one time.

We see now our roads are the worst is about is a five.

So that's why it's up in the top.

We want to get those things taken care of.

And then we looked at the condition of the roadway.

And then we also have to look at what you need to do to fix it, whether it's coal in place, recycling, or what all needs is a seal coat.

and then at the bottom, the yellow, you can see the ones that do require a full-depth reclamation and we've got about $7 million worth of unfunded full-depth reclamation projects.

DeSoto Road is still there. Rock Grove Road is still there. We've added a new section, McConnell Road, because it's getting a lot of truck traffic from Burner Foods.

so this is not part of what we've done before but it's the next section over so and then Galena Road is breaking up so we need to do a full death reclamation for that so so now we're looking where we had 14 to 16 million dollars before now we're cut that bottom half so but it is money that is unfunded or projects that are unfunded so over time and this is something we will need to pick up if you have any questions on it let me know Bill, and then we will be finishing up the paperwork and sending that into IDAP for their approval.

Making good progress.

Making good progress, I'd say.

I think we have.

Thank you.

We packed away a lot of them on the roads of the county.

Okay, that's it.

Any questions, Dale?

I want one, I guess, if you don't mind.

I know it's coming up in the end of the agenda, but with Collinville in 26, you know, we talked before your, I believe it was state funding that was coming in for that, and then they were going to hopefully have the funds sheet before the end of their fiscal year, or I guess the long and the short of it is you still believe that this project will be started and completed before the end of 26?

I'm a lot more optimistic now that we have this joint agreement.

The joint agreement for the Cedarville Road, the same kind of funding, and it took a long time for them to get it out, and I kind of put the bug in the air, and it worked, and they got the joint agreement out, and then they followed up right away with the joint agreement for this month.

Once we've got the joint agreement, both parties executed, then we can go to letting, the plans are, the final plans are in with IDOT, once they approve the final plans, we can go to letting, so, when both parties execute this, let me see, this is June, I would say we can probably go to letting by September, possibly into August, so.

And that's the next time to complete the project before the end of 26th?

I'm hoping, yes I love your optimism Okay, thank you Sure Anything else?

First budget, just to Brian I'll talk to Dale this morning Everything's still looking good We've kind of got delayed on some of the projects We haven't gotten any of the big invoices yet I'm anticipating next month we'll start getting some bigger invoice totals coming through.

We did, I just did do a deposit for the Shippey Road Bridge.

I finally got payment to us.

So I just deposited $641,000.

So that will get to the Township Bridge program.

so that will help with the county bridge balance so yeah so yeah we have a guardrail invoice that's coming in this month that will be due next month that will be a fairly large but and that everything else right now is looking good under budget halfway through the season I only need to visit this probably twice a year because that's probably the answer, but is there any, have you seen any money at all for the Rock City guardrails to pay? I did, but not recently. It was like court fees of like $135. Other than that, I didn't see anything else.

I could follow her and follow Carl again.

Like I said, I didn't have the answer before I asked the question.

There hasn't been, I haven't gotten any.

I know the last time I talked to Chanel, she said that I think that they suggested and they had it paid by like July, but I don't see that.

I mean, I don't know if they had, I mean, we went through all the steps to, since it was like a DUI case or whatever, I think they had more footing, but just the way that it seemed, like, it just, I thought, I didn't think they, we would see much money, if at all, anything, but I'll, a little over with Carl, yeah.

Excellent question.

So, who prosecuted that on our behalf?

was a problem. I believe, I believe so. Well, we were in the summary judgment. Yeah, yeah. I thought it was done through the DUI case, it was restitution. Oh, no, that's why I'm asking. I don't know, maybe I'm here. It wasn't Carl, of course, it was somebody else in his office, I remember. But the stakes, curiously. Yes, yeah. So, because I've heard of the witnesser. So, summary judgments are good for either five or seven years, I don't remember which, but they've got to be renewed at the end of that.

to stay active. Otherwise, they just go away. But if there is a fine form of pay, we can have them do a motion to discover assets, which I think we talked about, which will make him come back into court.

And we, I brought that up to Carl and Chanel, and because I remember bringing that up, and that's when they said I'd have to look at boarding and stuff like what the judgment that, You don't have to look at it, right?

Well, I'll get back to you.

My preference is if we were awarded a summary judgment, he's missed a deadline, that we do a motion for sculler assets.

Because once you do that, you can also do a wage garnishing one.

Yeah.

Okay.

Let me look into that, and I'll get back to you.

Because I know I brought that up to him.

We're the client of this.

So, if he's got a question, Bob, I guess you can have him talk to me, too, if that's something that you want Okay, I'll follow up with him and let you know Thank you, Brad 7.0 is the old business, which we don't have for this evening and Irony Point Zero is a new business a month long discussed through the first referendum to the natural roots for metals drive.

So we're adding the $160 monthly fee for the internet.

The owners of the property are paying for the installation costs.

And then we'll just have the $160 a month.

Thank you.

so Nate checked with Arrow and we had to trench it in and it can be a fairly expensive endeavor and Kristen checked with the landlords and they agreed to pay for the delivery of the fiber optic cable but then we there was a reoccurring monthly fee as well that went with this quote and so So, that was ours to pay.

So, what the addendum does is add that into the base agreement we had and marries it up time-wise to the length of our contract with them.

So, if we get past three full years and we're looking at year four or five, then we can redo the contract.

but the landlords will be responsible for the lease agreement, sorry, the monthly reoccurring fees. They will be responsible for that at this point for year four and year five as our lease and our obligations that are due to the administration.

Any questions?

So item number four down there, or excuse me, number five, I guess it is.

Do we know what the family termination thing is if we, for some reason, terminate?

This is all.

Yeah.

Are you serious?

Because we never know.

I don't remember.

I don't think there was a lot.

I can't think about it.

I can look it up on the website, I guess.

the other thing you can do is make a motion to amend it and remove it you can let them know the board when the committee is not excited about termination find out how much it is if it's something that the property owner is not willing to waive so you can present that to the county board on Thursday when it goes and make the mani close and put it out of here and put it back in if you go there.

Yes, barring any future developments, I'll make a motion to approve if we can tweak it as information comes at the full board.

But in the interest of getting more eyes on this, I'll make a motion to approve as is.

I'll second it, if we have the determination to get triggered that, okay.

So I have a motion to approve the addendum, as is, and a second, as well, for Mr. Drogers.

Any other further discussion?

Any comments you'd like to make that?

It seems like a reasonable back and forth between the landowners and us, all things considered.

I agree.

I agree.

Yes.

Okay.

All those in favor of adopting the first item, signify by saying aye.

Motion is approved.

Item 8.2 is the discussion and approval of the Memorandum of Understanding of the State of Wisconsin.

Okay.

This is a memorandum of understanding that Federal Highway Administration is requiring both all parties to sign it.

This is for structures that are on state lines.

So there's two bridges in Winslow Township in St. Vincent County and the County of Wayne in Lafayette County in Wisconsin.

A bridge office has reviewed this.

Carl has reviewed it.

So it just, it basically does not impact the county any because both bridges are the responsibility of Wisconsin to inspect them.

So, but it's just a memorandum of understanding to say that we concur with them due to inspect them.

It's also further than just inspection, right?

It says maintenance responsibility.

So if it had to be fixed for here, that would be them.

Yeah.

We all agree it's not a loss.

Yeah, that's right. It doesn't make a tip of an impact.

Any questions?

No.

I've got a motion from Mr. Chambers to approve and a second by Mr. Newton.

Any other discussion?

Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Motion is approved.

I don't think you've got some of the sign.

Not for us.

I'll throw it in a draw.

It's got to sign it later.

All right.

8.3 session of the BIDCAPS.

Okay.

We had two lettings this past week.

One was for, first one is for Red Point Township.

This is a township bridge.

It's 100% funding from TBP.

so it's no impact of the county at all. All four low bids came in over the engineer's estimates, but it'll still all just be paid for with constant bridge program funds.

So I recommend alerting it to the department and company. So that comes, yeah, that'll come up later in under 2611.

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The other letting that we had was for a great crossing in West Point Township.

It was at North Five Corners.

The ICC is requiring the township to build the road up to meet the new crossing, and they're going to be putting new signals and stuff there in a new crossing.

We just need to build the road up to it, so we did the plans in-house, the low bid, or the engineer's asking for $83,000, and low bid were significant, well, it was $118,000 over that.

I've put in a request to the ICC for some amount of funding for it, and this is all paid for with Great Crossing Protection Funds, so once again, there's no cost to the county.

And if there is, if they end up not authorizing additional funds, it's still in the township, not the county.

And that's it.

So that's off the line at it.

Can I ask a question?

Yes, sir.

Please.

Do you have anything that you would chalk up those overbids to?

Usually the engineers are pretty spot on.

Normally, the consultant did the engineering assessment on the bridge project. I'm seeing the last few leadings that are coming in over. Now, this one, the river crossing, it's a very small project. So, the unit price for asphalt, the aggregate goes up and you don't have as much material.

So, I attribute that to the overrun on that small project.

And also, if you look at that, it's about halfway down the list here of items of pre-cast and pre-stressed concrete that very means there's $60,000 of difference between the low theater and the next one to it instead.

So, percentage-wise, it's big.

You know, we based, as an engineer, you base your estimates on historical, when the contract would, particularly for pre-stress beams, they're getting the bid right from the manufacturer, so they know exactly what the cost will be at that time, so their cost is like a little higher, so there must be a shortage of beams on it.

out there and calls them, the price they go up.

Any other questions for move on?

Any other questions before we move on? We will return to this as an action item, just a little bit later.

Okay, so 8.4 is the discussion and approval of the Joint Agreement, HD.169.

Yeah, this is for the McConnell Road, Law 26 intersection. Once again, it's 100% funding from local project funding that was in the county.

and I think it was competitive and we rewarded that project.

So they asked for some money in there just in case there's a thing goes over what's covered by the local project funding.

So we have 30,000 in there and I just think we should be able to do it with this project funding enough.

I'll share it.

Motion to be approved by Mr. New, seconded by Mr. Maddow.

Any discussion on this?

Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Motion is approved. So we have an 8.4, which is, oh, sorry,

8.5, HD 2611, the Township British participation we talked about earlier. Yeah. Motion to approve.

Motion to approve. Mr. Nurtis, thank you, Mr. Jogerst, any discussion?

Say none. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.

contract. I did, it's, I thought it was pretty much right in line with what I expected. I did add a few things that were not on the last bid. One was a, I switched from an old style gear pump to a load sense pump on the truck. It's a more modern, basically it's what everyone's running. I have things that were about the last county or One of the few last run of basic pump and parts are getting parts to come by with some of those older style things.

I also added a tarp to it to be installed up there.

Normally we did it at the shop, but it tends to get a little confusing when you have the truck up there and their welding brackets on the truck for something that they're not mounting.

So if they have it in front of them, it's easier to put brackets and some of the tie-downs on right there.

And then another thing there that added to the cost, their labor, I think, from 23 has gone up $20 an hour.

They went from $140 an hour to $160.

So total cost, I think our last bid was $114,000, $115,000, somewhere in there.

and this one was 135, is that right?

I don't know if I learned from you.

So it was like 13,500 just in stuff that I added.

So if you add 10% for everything else, we're pretty much right in line.

I was pretty satisfied with it.

So, and that gets it locked in for, I'm not going to say, but it's going to be over a year yet until you get to this.

I'm going to say it will be next fall, fall of 27, before they will get to it.

And when do we expect the truck?

The truck is sitting in the room waiting.

Oh my God, and things have changed a lot. I thought the salesman from Monroe said now what he's starting to see is they're bidding the snow and ice equipment before they're actually bidding the cabin chassis out. They're bidding that out since it's so far out. And then they they're getting the cabin chassis after the fact. So it's it's a real it's a real screwed up process so have we been built you know i apologize no we do not have that kind of a chance yeah mix it up with the last one yeah it's the end the end of this year okay is when we'll see it okay i think he's when i talked to him he said somewhere november ish he said it was just we just are like recently purchased that right yeah we just took yeah it was was March this year, I believe, yeah, so cabin chassis is in the budget for this year, but this would fall in probably 27.

When do we pay for the truck? When is it technically delivered? After the equipment's been put on it, or before that, and it's simply full roll?

We pay for the cabin chassis when it's delivered to Monroe When Freightliner releases it or the dealer truck hunter releases it We pay for the cabin chassis The good thing is They do not start the warranty Until We contact them with snow and ice equipment installed Because the last one we got There's a few minor things I want to do to that yet before we start using it and I haven't started the warranty on how it's heavy.

So the salesman actually called me and asked me if it was a service and said no.

So we're going to hold off and maybe in the next one I'll contact you about that.

So it's a kind of a disastrous process right now with everything.

Yeah, so When did you anticipate the equipment being installed? Fall 27, did you say?

Yeah So it'll sit up there for about 10 months, roughly Yes Well, it's crazy, I mean, I don't know if any of you have been up there, but if there's a hill behind there, the whole hill is just plastered with cabin chances It's, I'll bet they have hundreds, oh yeah, maybe three, four hundred of them sitting up there I think there's some down by Banger State sitting there too.

They've opened up another facility trying to put equipment on there in the room and they're transporting some of the stuff to different facilities like in Joliet.

Facilities like in Joliet, I think there's one over by Milwaukee, trying to, and Bunnell's no better in Monroe, or Dixon, they're, they're out over, well over a year or two, so.

And so what's the bottom line after that? Why is it so, and why does it take so?

So, I think from COVID, there was a backup where they were waiting on all these trucks, on these chassis, and then the chassis started coming in, flooded them, and all these builders, and they just have never caught up since.

And honestly, I think they have the same problem everyone has The turnover rate for their help is crazy And it's not something, building trucks like that's not an easy job I mean, you have to have somebody to oversee what's going on It's not just bolt a box on a frame And it's hydraulics, it's electric there, you know, there's a lot going on with that, so I don't know how they, it's got to be tough for them, but that seems like it's the way of the world, and I'm unfortunate.

All right, now that that's a good excuse, it's the one that I've heard, so.

Any other questions?

Budget committee.

to make a motion from Mr. Jogerst, to approve, second, I'll get through this, your matter, all further discussion, say none, all those in favor, say aye. Aye, aye. Motion is approved.

I'm not on the committee but I did want to update everybody on the sheriff and Crime Suppression Unit, has been trained to operate portable scales, and they already have their first ticket slash arrest.

They got a dump truck up by Dakota, I believe, that was stealing rock out of a quarry.

Is there a quarry up in Dakota?

Dakota or Davis, one of those?

Davis, Davis.

Davis.

So the guy, tandem axle, 28,000 pounds per axle.

No driver's license, no truck license, no insurance, overweight, while stealing the rock out of the quarry. So he was actually going in there at night, operating backhoe, I'm assuming, loading the trucks up, driving them out. Now, because of, I know I'm going to say this wrong, so please don't judge me on it.

The pre-trial is part of the safety act. Regardless, it was Friday. He wrote him all the tickets and had to release it and release the truck as well. So I don't think he's stealing necessarily. He's operating. That just, I can't get past. They can't, yeah, they didn't impound the truck.

They let him drive away in the truck, even though he had no license.

All the time, apparently. That's how it's required to go.

No insurance, either. I'm more worried about not having insurance.

Insurance, license, all that.

Even if he had insurance, if he's not licensed, the insurance would never pay a claim or anything.

But the good part of that is they were up and operating and they've got their first person, so we have the ability to operate.

and a big whabby.

Yeah, it just kept going.

Did they have their own vulnerable scale?

Yep.

Apparently the scales aren't that expensive.

It was getting the training done, but the state police didn't train.

Oh, thanks.

That's one thing where government is fast and effective.

Is it 60 days?

Wow, that's crazy.

I think they're outside of Nuevo Tocqueso now.

Yeah.

Well, you don't think that guy backed down to $80,000?

I don't know.

When he got that email.

So, anyway, what it works.

Car expression unit isn't just focusing on overweight trucks, but they got a tip on this one, so it's they have the ability to.

Yeah, absolutely.

Well, this wasn't just an overweight truck.

That's all we thought it was, it's for sure, yes, worked out to you, far worse And you know, it wasn't just that one night that he was staying there No, he's been doing it a long time And they're just like, why?

Because that was my first question, how's he loading the truck?

It's like, well, he's operating tobacco Wow That's fuzzy That's enterprising Yeah And illegal Crazy and the other comments on that motion to adjourn so it looks like birds to sacrifice mr. goes right back all those favorite I thank you everyone I wasn't sure I was in the end I know, I know.