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Public Works Committee for Stevenson County. It's Thursday, June 11th, 5 o'clock. I'd like to call the meeting to order. Item 2.0 is the approval of the agenda. Do I have a motion to approve it? So moved. Bill and Mr. Myro, seconded by Mr. Jogerst, any discussion? With none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion to approve. Item 4.0, no, sorry, 3.0 review and approval of the meeting minutes from last month, May 14th.

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that motion to approve the meeting minutes are moved by Mr. Jogerst, seconded Mr. Myrtle, any discussion?

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Seeing none, all those in favor of the meeting minutes are approved.

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Item 4.0 is the approval of the claims this month.

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We have $550,915.08.

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It's a pleasure to have made it.

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Move approval.

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Second.

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I have a motion to approve and a second, any discussion, questions, concerns? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion is approved. 5.0 is public comments. Is there anyone here tonight to address the committee?

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and I just brought some information what we were trying to do was

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to see if the committee would consider permitting for our trailers to go in there. Pull some stuff together. I can hand that out.

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Sure.

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And basically, let's just...

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Basically, just the information from you shows that

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The difference between a five-axle trailer and a six-axle trailer at $105,000 versus $80,000, it's not as drastic as it sounds. The weight per square inch per tire is not that much different than an $80,000 contract going down the same roads.

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and the amount of loads hauled compared to what we were hauling to what we are hauling is two to one.

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We haul three loads a day now, sometimes four, and before we were at two, maybe two and a half.

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There's not a permit available right now.

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There is one available right now, but it's $450 a day.

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Obviously, that's not something that's economical for any trucking company.

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to pass along to the farmer or the plant that's in your county.

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So I was just hoping that maybe it would be taken into consideration that I don't know if it would be something that would be possible to do individual permits as far as chart and company in general rather than offer it to everybody.

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or if it's something that maybe there was an amount of money that wasn't $450 a day that would be beneficial for both sides to do that.

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And I know there was discussions with this that it may be put back on the newest or cases plate, but in most places that we permit, it goes directly to the company itself because they're the ones responsible for the equipment going down

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So this is just my opportunity to put something in front of you to show what the differences are, and then it's not as drastic as it sounds. It's not heavy trucks wrecking your guys' drones, because we do have more axles that are equivalent to maybe a little bit more, but not anything that would be the cause of the damage in your nose.

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so it was just something that I thought I would put in front of you guys that maybe you'd consider

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I don't know if that's how that process works or anything like that.

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Again, the idea that you work with the hiring department like Ryan and Dale is very capable

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to answer and if that's on their judgment if there's a policy change that we need to look at

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and that will come.

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Yeah, let me look this over and we'll put on the agenda for the next fund works to many meetings

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about whether to do what we can do.

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That would be greatly appreciated.

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Okay.

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Thanks, everybody.

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Appreciate your time.

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Thanks, everybody.

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Anyone else?

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Moving on to 6.0 is the Department of Reports and 6.1 is animal control.

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All right. So cat intake for May was 58 total. Out of those 58, 35 were transferred to rescues, four were adopted. One was reclaimed. It was actually a cat that made it from Stockton to Freeport, hitched a ride on in a vehicle, axle or engine.

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and I don't know. Five are adaptable currently. We have 11 on hold, which are anything under eight weeks old or pregnant. We have two in foster. And we took 23 dogs in. We have 11 of them were reclaimed. One went to rescue. 10 are on hold, which includes a mom and her nine puppies. And one was adapted.

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in. Current animals we have are eight cats that are adoptable, 13 are on hold, two are in foster, one is

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boarding still, 24 total. Dogs we have five adoptable, two on hold. I'm sorry, we have vomit pups too. One foster

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and we have eight. I should say we have eight at the animal school. At the building we have Stella

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with her nine babies that were born on Memorial Day. She was picked up Thursday before Memorial Day,

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very right now, obviously, and she had them on Memorial Day. So they're two weeks old now.

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As far as court cases and her crisis case went for a bench trial, they found them guilty for two of the

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running at large tickets and the rest were not guilty. Mary's case, nothing really happened.

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On the 22nd of May, Iowa County Convenience Society in Dodgeville pulled seven dogs, eight cats, and seven kittens from us, a total of 22 animals.

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Two of the dogs were, or I should say, three of the dogs were long-term dogs. One was with us since January of 26, no, 25.

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the one was the court case little chihuahua and the other one was with us since August of 25 so out of those dogs I think they placed like five or six animals are different and they're willing to I basically had a current inventory sheet I sent it to her kind of like this and she's like I highlighted the ones I wanted I'm like it would have been easier if you highlighted the ones you didn't want it was like all yellow I'm like I'm for that

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So I did transport them. So Louie got a workout. She had 22 animals in her. She did good. We got them there. It was fun. As far as the building, I have most of the stuff from the animal hospital moved over. As soon as we get internet over there, I will move computers and stuff and I will move the cats over once I'm over there.

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so I can take care of them. Right now I'm going over there to take care of mama obviously but once we get

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internet and I can actually work out of there we will move the cats over. Kennels

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he said they are going to be shipped on Wednesday of next week and he will give me a tracking number

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once that is what I reached out to him because it was like crickets after Memorial Day and I'm like

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um you said you would send me pictures and I've seen nothing he's like oh yeah they're getting packed they're ready to go and he still had the lamb road address so I had to correct that again and say they go here so he said he got that fixed too um Nia has been working with me for about a month now and she's picking up the software really nice she's actually been going to the career college on Thursdays for me

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so I don't have to cut my day and she can go pick up and drop off and that's nice. She's going to start

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working Mondays because she does babysit on Mondays but now school's out so she can do Mondays and

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Thursdays and eventually she'll pick up more hours once we're in the building.

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I did put the ending balance on the sheet so I didn't have to at least set a paper for it by itself. May has the holiday in it so numbers are a little low because of the Memorial Day. Otherwise for the year we're doing good still.

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Well, pickups went up because we had that big pickup that the dogs were a repeat offender so he had to pay the $5,500 I did have I guess there was an incident in McConnell that I just found out today where two dogs were running loose and killed a cat and then I guess the dog that one of the dogs got hit on McConnell Road or Orangeville Road so I have to do investigation

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on that and then there's some issues in write-out with dogs running at large and going after people walking their dogs so there have been three incidents in the last month two are the same dogs doing it so we might end up have to deem them dangerous they can't follow rules and keep them in their house so it sounds like they're one time they opened the door somehow and went after them and so

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So, yeah, got to go.

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Otherwise, the claims were the normal and then our least quarterly lease for shelter boss, our rabies tags.

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And I did have a lady reach out to me this week about a program that she has for tags.

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And I'm going to set up a demo with her to see what it's like, if it's how much money.

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Sounds like it might be free. And it depends on how our program, if we can pull from that and it's not re-entering again. I don't think we want to do that. But if they can maybe, Nate, if it's one that we can transfer over, it's free and it's about the same. So she's going to give me an e-call me next week and get something set up. So I'll have more next meeting for that.

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The Meadows Drive, Albert Towing, Tracy Holberg did a check, Lions Club didn't, that was in April, but they did, that's the second Lions, Cedarville Lions that donated, and then I also put the arrow quote and stuff in there for you, so you had it, but then that's that.

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Questions? Concerns? Information you want from this month?

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What was the result of those two guilty findings?

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He got a year of court supervision and fines and court costs. I think it was $200. It wasn't like $300. And that would go not towards us. We didn't do the tickets the sheriff's did. So I think both cases were a year.

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a year piece, and then the fines per case.

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I have a question.

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More of a concern, I guess, than a question.

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But surrenders at 33 and city strays at 17 is 50.

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Did we get anything for that?

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So the reason the city dogs are on there, we actually don't.

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we just do the paperwork to the cats sorry oh the cats we really don't get the dog wise we really don't physically take the dogs in we just we've been doing the paperwork because they fall through the cracks and a few of them have come county series and then we don't have the paperwork proven they were picked up before and in order for us to say that dog needs to be fixed because if they're picked up twice they should be fixed we don't have any paper trail because the city didn't do paper trail so we just

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when they come to the animal hospital for the microchip which is one of our microchips technically we buy them but obviously the owners pay for them we've just been doing paperwork so we have a paper trail of those dogs too the cat wise no we don't we haven't I bet they most of the cats go to rescue how long did the city streets stay at the city the dogs or the cats they don't

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have a place for the cats. They all go to the animal hospital. That's why it's going to change when we move.

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Yeah, I think what we've talked before about talking to the city about doing an intergovernmental agreement.

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Yeah, because we're not. It's high time. Yeah. They're not going over there unless we have it.

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Okay. Is that what you mean by it's going to change? Yes. Yes. They're on their own. And the animal

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Hospital already told them that they're not because right now our license is technically

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the animals at the animal hospital because that's where our animals are in June the license will be

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at Meadows Drive and they won't have a license at the animal hospital well if we're still if we're

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still there they will until we move but I already talked to Department of A and he knows once our

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animals are out there. There's no, that license is no longer theirs. It's, I mean, with that building, it's ours, because it's our license. So the city is going to have to, and they did, the animal hospital did send them something saying.

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So what happens to the animals that are at the animal hospital now that came from the city once we move?

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I'm hoping there's going to be none, to be honest, and just be the surrenders and the county strays.

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I know what we're hoping, but what's the reality? If they're there, are they coming with you?

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We'll have to discuss that, I guess. I mean, I would think so, but...

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Okay. So I'll give it to Mayor.

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Yeah, we need something. Because the problem, again, is, okay, right now, if a dog gets put down,

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aggressive, mainly aggressive dogs. Dr. Connie used to have a company that would pick the dogs up

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and they would go to the schools to be used. Well, that company is no longer.

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So that bill is going to have to be paid by somebody. So right now, if we do take a city dog

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over, and that dog has to be put down, they get the bill. And same way with, if it's a county dog, we, Dr. Connie, I mean, he basically needs the cost for that. So that's another thing we're going to have to think about, too, is if we have to put a dog down, I want to talk to walkers.

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Dr. Kahn is still looking for a company, but we don't put that many down, but if we do have to put one down

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should you commit making sure we'll open on July 1st? As long as the dog camels are here? Yes.

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All right.

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I can have the dogs and everything. As long as I have internet, I can have the cats over and

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the office. I don't want this to go any longer than July. I don't either. You've been paying rent for six months without utilizing that building. So some way, somehow it needs to be up and going by July 1st. The other issue is once you're in that other building, until there's an airgovernmental agreement, city of Freeport, they call you to pick up a dog or a cat. You can't do it.

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Right. Okay. That's fine. I don't pick them up anyways. They bring them, but okay.

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You can't accept them. They can't go away until we can't work out who's going to pay for it.

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Okay. Because you don't have money in your budget to cover that expense.

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No. And honestly, from the people that I'm talking to that live in the city,

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they're not doing any trapping anymore for wildlife or anything. So what is whatever money they're

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are getting or going to for animal control because they're not even doing that.

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But before I get that IGA, if you accept animals before that IGA, I have no leg to stand out when I'm negotiating with them.

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We haven't honestly pulled a dog from them.

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And like I said, these are dogs that just we did paperwork for.

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Am I okay to still do the, like, we do the paperwork?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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As long as there's not an expense that's involved

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No, it's just making sure we have paperwork on them

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Well, I'll give myself a note, I'll call her in the morning

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Cindy, you're at the bottom of your sheet where it has the any dialysis

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Yes

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Where does that come from?

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I can't remember

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Stephanie

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Okay

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or Adrian usually but Stephanie I think did it because Adrian wasn't in his office when I asked for it so I just put it on

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So I just put it on the bottom, otherwise it was going to be one sheet by itself

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And I'm like

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My pull-ups, Chairman Helms' monthly report, Fund 16, there's $32,600 in there, right?

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Yeah, but it's $35,000

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That's what she gave me

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So it might be like a deposit that wasn't in, like that was supposed to be for me

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There was one deposit I think that I took, like the third

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so that might be added into mine that was technically or I'll pay if I don't if she doesn't know where it goes I'm thinking that's where it is.

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The other concern I have is this is your monthly revenues from each one of the backlinks that are collecting.

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Correct.

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and year to date it shows we're off $1,000 but I look at the monthly report here from the treasurer we're down like 9,000 in just the last month so even a month ago we were just under 42,000 we're down to 32,006 so just trying to get a feel for where the extra expenses come from

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Oh, I see some gas and I see some other things, but it doesn't seem like an answer.

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Okay. Might be adding a payroll person too.

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That's perhaps where it is because we don't get, we don't see it.

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Yeah. Yeah. Cause she's, I don't, I can't remember what day we ended up. She's been at least a month.

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two papers, if it's okay, yeah, need to do a little housekeeping on the website, they're

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still showing a number of unorthodox donations from a while ago, oh, shoot, I should have,

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did you send that to, yeah, so, okay, and I know I sent it to everybody about AutoSmart wanting

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to do a pet event for us too. And we're looking at August 22nd is the date we'll do it. It's just the

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beginning stages. I'm going to try to get K9 to do a demo and face painting and stuff like that. And

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then we'll have some of our adoptable dogs out there. Depending on what we have for cats, we'll see.

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and they have to be a really special cat to be able to go there. The dogs will be leashed in that. I'm not

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going to have anybody in crates to take the risk of getting free and getting on the road. If we do take

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a cat, they will be harnessed and leashed and in a cage type thing. But we're looking at different

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things and we're going to try to get some baskets together and do like a raffle type thing. Any ideas

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would be great. I'm just trying to think of like different demos that people would like. I'm going

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to talk to him. There was a lady that brings her sheep to the Cedarville Lions stuff. I thought,

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well, that'd be kind of cool to have a little petting zoo if he's okay with it. Everything's

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like we just talked about it on Tuesday. So everything's fresh. Do you have any other

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fundraising plans? Not right now. Did you talk about a golf outing? No. I might go and watch the weather for those golfers. I see a lot of laughing. Maybe Brush Creek, or wait, it's not Brush Creek anymore. On a serious note, you should think about other things that you're going to do through the summer because the time goes fast.

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so there's no reason to recreate the wheel, see what other roles are doing to raise money

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other counties. I'm sure you can piggyback off that. The law founding is a great idea. They're

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incredibly expensive and incredibly labor-intensive. Right. You just went to one.

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It's just a lot of work. It's not good. They raise a lot of money, but a lot of work. Great idea.

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I'm sure Larry wins mine to do all the work.

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When are we putting this on?

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If I had any time.

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Anybody else have any questions for Kristen at this time?

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Can I ask how much we're in the claims for animal control that you approved tonight?

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For animal control specifically, just animal control.

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She said $2,479.07.

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that's with an old thing that I've missed on VAS.

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We will be talking about this again a little bit later in the meeting, but do you have a firm handle on the installation of the fiber optics?

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I think Vaughn signed the contract, so it's in Nate's hands now.

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I know he told me that he confirmed that he had gotten a signed document and sent it to Eric at the date, but I

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He was at the courthouse all day today

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I just know that she said, I figured out how to sign it

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Because she wasn't going to come down and sign it, she was able to do it online, so

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Is your point of reference, July 1st, which was yesterday

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is good.

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Yeah.

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Everybody else is good.

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Moving on.

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6.2 is the highway department.

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Last month we paved on McConnell Road between Fulke and Dakota Road, and we paved three-quarters

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of a mile for Rock Throat Townships last week.

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So we've done some ditch cleaning on Lauren Road, South Kent Road, Shoulderstone on McConnell Road and Bolton Road, straight in front of probably three-fourths of a guardrail, we've got a little bit left to do, been mowing, and then some tree cleaning up from storms, and of course, some patching puddles.

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How much road did you go on Rock Road before?

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On what?

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Rock Grove.

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For Rock Grove Township.

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Yeah.

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There's about three or four miles.

00:27:16.290 --> 00:27:16.850
Yeah.

00:27:17.050 --> 00:27:20.250
Other than that, it's been a month.

00:27:21.950 --> 00:27:23.470
Questions for God.

00:27:24.830 --> 00:27:25.310
Thank you.

00:27:26.590 --> 00:27:27.070
Dale.

00:27:27.570 --> 00:27:30.050
Okay, you got your Highway Department update.

00:27:30.050 --> 00:27:33.370
I've highlighted any changes from the last month.

00:27:35.010 --> 00:27:39.830
And I think there was a little better for West Point Red Road Frosting Project.

00:27:40.190 --> 00:27:52.150
Martin's Lowbidder for the West Point Township Bridge Project, and then the joint agreement will be locally executed for the McConnell Road Project, and those are all action items that comes up further in the agenda.

00:27:52.910 --> 00:27:54.450
Payment preservation program.

00:27:54.910 --> 00:27:59.550
When I came here, we set up a six-year program for payment preservation.

00:28:01.010 --> 00:28:09.290
Payment preservation, the measures we did to preserve it was either seal cold work or coal and plate recycling, coal and plate recycling.

00:28:09.290 --> 00:28:16.190
So you fill up about four inches of material and oil to it, lay it back down, then we do

00:28:16.190 --> 00:28:17.510
a double fill over it.

00:28:18.350 --> 00:28:22.650
Then we extended that a couple, two or three years ago.

00:28:22.850 --> 00:28:26.450
That took it all the way through next year.

00:28:27.350 --> 00:28:32.410
So we just put together a new program that should go beyond that.

00:28:33.690 --> 00:28:38.130
So it's something you end up sending the whole program to IDOT.

00:28:38.130 --> 00:28:39.930
and I have to approve it.

00:28:40.190 --> 00:28:46.870
If you remember with the previous one, anything that required full-depth recognition, there's nothing there to preserve.

00:28:47.010 --> 00:28:47.970
It's already gone.

00:28:48.130 --> 00:28:51.150
So we don't use the pavement preservation programs to fix them.

00:28:51.150 --> 00:29:01.090
So we got, at the time of the window program, we had like $14, $16 million worth of unfunded projects that we couldn't have money for.

00:29:01.330 --> 00:29:03.290
So we found special funding for them.

00:29:03.710 --> 00:29:05.390
It came from the general funds.

00:29:05.390 --> 00:29:08.950
There was a program that I'd have put out was for RBI funds.

00:29:09.370 --> 00:29:13.290
We had some COVID relief funds and money from the general fund.

00:29:14.850 --> 00:29:18.190
And then I'd add another program for local project funds.

00:29:18.610 --> 00:29:27.070
So with that special funding, we were able to take care of Baileyville Road from Montague up to Lamb Road.

00:29:27.190 --> 00:29:32.830
We did all of Cedarville from what we're going to be finishing up the last section of that.

00:29:32.830 --> 00:29:39.750
that goes from Galena Road all the way over to Route 26, and then McConnell Road from 26

00:29:39.750 --> 00:29:45.210
over to Abhockey. We got special funding for those. They didn't have anything, any money to

00:29:45.210 --> 00:29:51.890
do, Dakota Road or Rock Road Road, so we carried those over. And then if you look at the new

00:29:51.890 --> 00:29:55.970
program, I'll kind of go over the criteria that was

00:29:55.970 --> 00:29:57.920
I'll kind of go over the criteria that we set up for this.

00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:04.440
We have an increase, when I set up the original program, it was for $750,000 a year.

00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:09.120
We're getting an increase of federal funds, so we can do about a million dollars a year.

00:30:09.120 --> 00:30:19.260
And then federal funds are 80-20, so it's $800,000 a year in federal funds with a $200,000 match.

00:30:19.260 --> 00:30:36.640
So, our criteria was to, we wanted to do a seal coat every year, and then, excuse me, a coal and blade recycling every year, and then any place, anything that we did CIR last year, you want to put a third seal coat on top of that to help preserve it.

00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:44.560
So our criteria was CIR first and then we did some CIR code work afterwards.

00:30:44.560 --> 00:30:51.820
So we prioritized the projects by the condition of the pavement and the traffic count.

00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:54.920
Higher traffic count, we wanted to take care of those roads first.

00:30:55.760 --> 00:31:02.300
So we set up a new program and I know the chart just probably doesn't mean too much to you,

00:31:02.300 --> 00:31:32.120
but we use all this information to help us put together our needs so but Scott, myself and Kate went through and evaluated all the roads in the county and that about the eighth column over to CR that's a condition rating. Condition rating goes from zero in terrible pavement to 90 and perfect. So if you see we went through and looked at what the pavement was looked like

00:31:32.120 --> 00:31:38.360
And when the first time around, we had nothing worse than about a four.

00:31:39.340 --> 00:31:41.240
McConnell Road dropped down to a three one time.

00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:46.840
We see now our roads are the worst is about is a five.

00:31:47.060 --> 00:31:48.540
So that's why it's up in the top.

00:31:48.620 --> 00:31:50.260
We want to get those things taken care of.

00:31:50.560 --> 00:31:53.040
And then we looked at the condition of the roadway.

00:31:53.040 --> 00:31:59.920
And then we also have to look at what you need to do to fix it, whether it's coal in place, recycling, or what all needs is a seal coat.

00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:14.520
and then at the bottom, the yellow, you can see the ones that do require a full-depth reclamation and we've got about $7 million worth of unfunded full-depth reclamation projects.

00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:25.660
DeSoto Road is still there. Rock Grove Road is still there. We've added a new section, McConnell Road, because it's getting a lot of truck traffic from Burner Foods.

00:32:25.660 --> 00:32:55.640
so this is not part of what we've done before but it's the next section over so and then Galena Road is breaking up so we need to do a full death reclamation for that so so now we're looking where we had 14 to 16 million dollars before now we're cut that bottom half so but it is money that is unfunded or projects that are unfunded so over time and this is something we will need to pick up if you have any questions on it let me know

00:32:55.640 --> 00:33:02.880
Bill, and then we will be finishing up the paperwork and sending that into IDAP for their approval.

00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:05.220
Making good progress.

00:33:05.660 --> 00:33:07.380
Making good progress, I'd say.

00:33:07.800 --> 00:33:08.800
I think we have.

00:33:09.420 --> 00:33:10.080
Thank you.

00:33:10.080 --> 00:33:13.720
We packed away a lot of them on the roads of the county.

00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:20.460
Okay, that's it.

00:33:21.320 --> 00:33:22.320
Any questions, Dale?

00:33:24.470 --> 00:33:26.130
I want one, I guess, if you don't mind.

00:33:26.130 --> 00:33:33.350
I know it's coming up in the end of the agenda, but with Collinville in 26, you know, we talked

00:33:33.350 --> 00:33:38.070
before your, I believe it was state funding that was coming in for that, and then they

00:33:38.070 --> 00:33:42.690
were going to hopefully have the funds sheet before the end of their fiscal year, or I guess

00:33:42.690 --> 00:33:46.730
the long and the short of it is you still believe that this project will be started and completed

00:33:46.730 --> 00:33:48.390
before the end of 26?

00:33:48.690 --> 00:33:51.550
I'm a lot more optimistic now that we have this joint agreement.

00:33:51.550 --> 00:34:09.150
The joint agreement for the Cedarville Road, the same kind of funding, and it took a long time for them to get it out, and I kind of put the bug in the air, and it worked, and they got the joint agreement out, and then they followed up right away with the joint agreement for this month.

00:34:09.150 --> 00:34:33.610
Once we've got the joint agreement, both parties executed, then we can go to letting, the plans are, the final plans are in with IDOT, once they approve the final plans, we can go to letting, so, when both parties execute this, let me see, this is June, I would say we can probably go to letting by September, possibly into August, so.

00:34:34.010 --> 00:34:38.130
And that's the next time to complete the project before the end of 26th?

00:34:38.130 --> 00:34:40.030
I'm hoping, yes

00:34:40.030 --> 00:34:43.070
I love your optimism

00:34:43.070 --> 00:34:46.690
Okay, thank you

00:34:46.690 --> 00:34:47.030
Sure

00:34:47.030 --> 00:34:50.640
Anything else?

00:34:53.380 --> 00:34:55.140
First budget, just to Brian

00:34:55.140 --> 00:34:57.720
I'll talk to Dale this morning

00:34:57.720 --> 00:34:59.940
Everything's still looking good

00:34:59.940 --> 00:35:05.420
We've kind of got delayed on some of the projects

00:35:05.420 --> 00:35:07.800
We haven't gotten any of the big invoices yet

00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:16.780
I'm anticipating next month we'll start getting some bigger invoice totals coming through.

00:35:16.780 --> 00:35:22.940
We did, I just did do a deposit for the Shippey Road Bridge.

00:35:24.180 --> 00:35:27.220
I finally got payment to us.

00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.580
So I just deposited $641,000.

00:35:31.260 --> 00:35:35.560
So that will get to the Township Bridge program.

00:35:35.560 --> 00:36:07.290
so that will help with the county bridge balance so yeah so yeah we have a guardrail invoice that's coming in this month that will be due next month that will be a fairly large but and that everything else right now is looking good under budget halfway through the season

00:36:07.290 --> 00:36:16.650
I only need to visit this probably twice a year because that's probably the answer, but is there any, have you seen any money at all for the Rock City

00:36:16.650 --> 00:36:31.690
guardrails to pay? I did, but not recently. It was like court fees of like $135. Other than that,

00:36:31.690 --> 00:36:33.170
I didn't see anything else.

00:36:33.610 --> 00:36:38.710
I could follow her and follow Carl again.

00:36:39.490 --> 00:36:42.790
Like I said, I didn't have the answer before I asked the question.

00:36:43.290 --> 00:36:45.670
There hasn't been, I haven't gotten any.

00:36:46.810 --> 00:36:58.210
I know the last time I talked to Chanel, she said that I think that they suggested and they had it paid by like July, but I don't see that.

00:36:58.210 --> 00:37:21.690
I mean, I don't know if they had, I mean, we went through all the steps to, since it was like a DUI case or whatever, I think they had more footing, but just the way that it seemed, like, it just, I thought, I didn't think they, we would see much money, if at all, anything, but I'll, a little over with Carl, yeah.

00:37:22.810 --> 00:37:23.930
Excellent question.

00:37:24.590 --> 00:37:27.210
So, who prosecuted that on our behalf?

00:37:27.210 --> 00:37:56.670
was a problem. I believe, I believe so. Well, we were in the summary judgment. Yeah, yeah. I thought it was done through the DUI case, it was restitution. Oh, no, that's why I'm asking. I don't know, maybe I'm here. It wasn't Carl, of course, it was somebody else in his office, I remember. But the stakes, curiously. Yes, yeah. So, because I've heard of the witnesser. So, summary judgments are good for either five or seven years, I don't remember which, but they've got to be renewed at the end of that.

00:37:56.670 --> 00:38:10.270
to stay active. Otherwise, they just go away. But if there is a fine form of pay, we can have them do a motion to discover assets, which I think we talked about, which will make him come back into court.

00:38:10.270 --> 00:38:30.230
And we, I brought that up to Carl and Chanel, and because I remember bringing that up, and that's when they said I'd have to look at boarding and stuff like what the judgment that,

00:38:30.830 --> 00:38:34.510
You don't have to look at it, right?

00:38:34.610 --> 00:38:35.430
Well, I'll get back to you.

00:38:35.790 --> 00:38:41.210
My preference is if we were awarded a summary judgment, he's missed a deadline, that we do a motion for sculler assets.

00:38:41.890 --> 00:38:44.670
Because once you do that, you can also do a wage garnishing one.

00:38:44.830 --> 00:38:44.970
Yeah.

00:38:46.170 --> 00:38:46.570
Okay.

00:38:46.750 --> 00:38:50.350
Let me look into that, and I'll get back to you.

00:38:50.810 --> 00:38:53.210
Because I know I brought that up to him.

00:38:53.930 --> 00:38:56.530
We're the client of this.

00:38:56.530 --> 00:39:07.290
So, if he's got a question, Bob, I guess you can have him talk to me, too, if that's something that you want

00:39:07.290 --> 00:39:09.810
Okay, I'll follow up with him and let you know

00:39:09.810 --> 00:39:14.130
Thank you, Brad

00:39:14.130 --> 00:39:20.350
7.0 is the old business, which we don't have for this evening

00:39:20.350 --> 00:39:30.410
and Irony Point Zero is a new business a month long discussed through the first referendum to the natural roots for metals drive.

00:39:33.570 --> 00:39:38.470
So we're adding the $160 monthly fee for the internet.

00:39:40.170 --> 00:39:44.630
The owners of the property are paying for the installation costs.

00:39:45.510 --> 00:39:49.550
And then we'll just have the $160 a month.

00:39:50.350 --> 00:40:20.330
Thank you.

00:40:20.330 --> 00:40:48.640
so Nate checked with Arrow and we had to trench it in and it can be a fairly expensive endeavor and Kristen checked with the landlords and they agreed to pay for the delivery of the fiber optic cable but then we there was a reoccurring monthly fee as well that went with this quote and so

00:40:48.640 --> 00:40:51.440
So, that was ours to pay.

00:40:52.140 --> 00:41:03.520
So, what the addendum does is add that into the base agreement we had and marries it up time-wise to the length of our contract with them.

00:41:04.860 --> 00:41:14.140
So, if we get past three full years and we're looking at year four or five, then we can redo the contract.

00:41:14.140 --> 00:41:24.400
but the landlords will be responsible for the lease agreement, sorry, the monthly reoccurring

00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:30.740
fees. They will be responsible for that at this point for year four and year five as our lease

00:41:30.740 --> 00:41:33.200
and our obligations that are due to the administration.

00:41:35.950 --> 00:41:36.430
Any questions?

00:41:36.570 --> 00:41:41.870
So item number four down there, or excuse me, number five, I guess it is.

00:41:41.870 --> 00:41:47.090
Do we know what the family termination thing is if we, for some reason, terminate?

00:41:49.930 --> 00:41:50.970
This is all.

00:41:51.870 --> 00:41:52.190
Yeah.

00:41:53.390 --> 00:41:54.690
Are you serious?

00:41:54.830 --> 00:41:55.510
Because we never know.

00:41:58.170 --> 00:41:59.790
I don't remember.

00:42:02.950 --> 00:42:04.530
I don't think there was a lot.

00:42:04.690 --> 00:42:05.730
I can't think about it.

00:42:07.450 --> 00:42:10.570
I can look it up on the website, I guess.

00:42:10.570 --> 00:42:15.410
the other thing you can do is make a motion to amend it and remove it

00:42:15.410 --> 00:42:37.150
you can let them know the board

00:42:37.150 --> 00:42:41.030
when the committee is not excited about termination

00:42:41.030 --> 00:42:45.070
find out how much it is if it's something that the property owner

00:42:45.070 --> 00:42:49.050
is not willing to waive so you can present that to the county board

00:42:49.050 --> 00:42:52.730
on Thursday when it goes and make the mani close

00:42:52.730 --> 00:42:54.630
and put it out of here and put it back in

00:42:54.630 --> 00:42:59.130
if you go there.

00:42:59.130 --> 00:43:31.500
Yes, barring any future developments, I'll make a motion to approve if we can tweak it as information

00:43:31.500 --> 00:43:33.100
comes at the full board.

00:43:33.100 --> 00:43:39.420
But in the interest of getting more eyes on this, I'll make a motion to approve as is.

00:43:39.420 --> 00:43:46.860
I'll second it, if we have the determination to get triggered that, okay.

00:43:46.860 --> 00:43:53.700
So I have a motion to approve the addendum, as is, and a second, as well, for Mr. Drogers.

00:43:53.700 --> 00:43:55.700
Any other further discussion?

00:43:55.700 --> 00:44:00.100
Any comments you'd like to make that?

00:44:00.100 --> 00:44:08.920
It seems like a reasonable back and forth between the landowners and us, all things considered.

00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:09.920
I agree.

00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:10.920
I agree.

00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:11.920
Yes.

00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:12.920
Okay.

00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:19.920
All those in favor of adopting the first item, signify by saying aye.

00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.920
Motion is approved.

00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:33.870
Item 8.2 is the discussion and approval of the Memorandum of Understanding of the State of Wisconsin.

00:44:33.870 --> 00:44:34.870
Okay.

00:44:34.870 --> 00:44:42.650
This is a memorandum of understanding that Federal Highway Administration is requiring both all parties to sign it.

00:44:42.650 --> 00:44:46.610
This is for structures that are on state lines.

00:44:47.570 --> 00:44:55.810
So there's two bridges in Winslow Township in St. Vincent County and the County of Wayne in Lafayette County in Wisconsin.

00:44:56.990 --> 00:44:59.150
A bridge office has reviewed this.

00:44:59.850 --> 00:45:01.350
Carl has reviewed it.

00:45:01.350 --> 00:45:14.390
So it just, it basically does not impact the county any because both bridges are the responsibility of Wisconsin to inspect them.

00:45:14.710 --> 00:45:21.650
So, but it's just a memorandum of understanding to say that we concur with them due to inspect them.

00:45:22.010 --> 00:45:24.770
It's also further than just inspection, right?

00:45:25.310 --> 00:45:27.350
It says maintenance responsibility.

00:45:27.690 --> 00:45:30.350
So if it had to be fixed for here, that would be them.

00:45:30.630 --> 00:45:30.790
Yeah.

00:45:31.350 --> 00:45:33.450
We all agree it's not a loss.

00:45:38.870 --> 00:45:41.150
Yeah, that's right. It doesn't make a tip of an impact.

00:45:42.590 --> 00:45:45.490
Any questions?

00:45:47.430 --> 00:45:47.910
No.

00:45:48.170 --> 00:45:52.650
I've got a motion from Mr. Chambers to approve and a second by Mr. Newton.

00:45:53.550 --> 00:45:54.670
Any other discussion?

00:45:55.470 --> 00:45:57.270
Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.

00:45:57.450 --> 00:45:57.610
Aye.

00:45:58.390 --> 00:45:59.370
Motion is approved.

00:45:59.370 --> 00:46:02.830
I don't think you've got some of the sign.

00:46:03.950 --> 00:46:04.790
Not for us.

00:46:05.450 --> 00:46:06.650
I'll throw it in a draw.

00:46:06.670 --> 00:46:07.590
It's got to sign it later.

00:46:08.090 --> 00:46:08.770
All right.

00:46:08.930 --> 00:46:11.470
8.3 session of the BIDCAPS.

00:46:11.930 --> 00:46:12.210
Okay.

00:46:12.290 --> 00:46:14.210
We had two lettings this past week.

00:46:15.550 --> 00:46:20.210
One was for, first one is for Red Point Township.

00:46:20.850 --> 00:46:24.450
This is a township bridge.

00:46:24.610 --> 00:46:27.090
It's 100% funding from TBP.

00:46:27.090 --> 00:46:43.090
so it's no impact of the county at all. All four low bids came in over the engineer's estimates, but it'll still all just be paid for with constant bridge program funds.

00:46:43.090 --> 00:46:57.470
So I recommend alerting it to the department and company. So that comes, yeah, that'll come up later in under 2611.

00:46:57.470 --> 00:47:00.690
Page 26-11.

00:47:01.690 --> 00:47:10.670
The other letting that we had was for a great crossing in West Point Township.

00:47:10.670 --> 00:47:13.450
It was at North Five Corners.

00:47:13.950 --> 00:47:22.290
The ICC is requiring the township to build the road up to meet the new crossing, and they're

00:47:22.290 --> 00:47:26.270
going to be putting new signals and stuff there in a new crossing.

00:47:27.470 --> 00:47:43.490
We just need to build the road up to it, so we did the plans in-house, the low bid, or the engineer's asking for $83,000, and low bid were significant, well, it was $118,000 over that.

00:47:43.890 --> 00:47:55.870
I've put in a request to the ICC for some amount of funding for it, and this is all paid for with Great Crossing Protection Funds, so once again, there's no cost to the county.

00:47:55.870 --> 00:48:06.460
And if there is, if they end up not authorizing additional funds, it's still in the township, not the county.

00:48:10.110 --> 00:48:11.130
And that's it.

00:48:11.350 --> 00:48:12.750
So that's off the line at it.

00:48:13.230 --> 00:48:14.050
Can I ask a question?

00:48:14.290 --> 00:48:14.690
Yes, sir.

00:48:14.790 --> 00:48:14.990
Please.

00:48:16.510 --> 00:48:21.510
Do you have anything that you would chalk up those overbids to?

00:48:21.690 --> 00:48:24.390
Usually the engineers are pretty spot on.

00:48:24.390 --> 00:48:48.930
Normally, the consultant did the engineering assessment on the bridge project. I'm seeing the last few leadings that are coming in over. Now, this one, the river crossing, it's a very small project. So, the unit price for asphalt, the aggregate goes up and you don't have as much material.

00:48:48.930 --> 00:48:55.250
So, I attribute that to the overrun on that small project.

00:48:57.250 --> 00:49:14.870
And also, if you look at that, it's about halfway down the list here of items of pre-cast and pre-stressed concrete that very means there's $60,000 of difference between the low theater and the next one to it instead.

00:49:14.870 --> 00:49:19.790
So, percentage-wise, it's big.

00:49:19.790 --> 00:49:46.200
You know, we based, as an engineer, you base your estimates on historical, when the contract would, particularly for pre-stress beams, they're getting the bid right from the manufacturer, so they know exactly what the cost will be at that time, so their cost is like a little higher, so there must be a shortage of beams on it.

00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:48.380
out there and calls them, the price they go up.

00:49:50.160 --> 00:49:51.880
Any other questions for move on?

00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:55.360
Any other questions before we move on? We will return to this as an action item, just a little bit later.

00:49:58.820 --> 00:50:07.140
Okay, so 8.4 is the discussion and approval of the Joint Agreement, HD.169.

00:50:07.140 --> 00:50:20.560
Yeah, this is for the McConnell Road, Law 26 intersection. Once again, it's 100% funding from local project funding that was in the county.

00:50:20.560 --> 00:50:25.220
and I think it was competitive and we rewarded that project.

00:50:25.220 --> 00:50:30.640
So they asked for some money in there just in case there's a thing goes over what's covered

00:50:30.640 --> 00:50:33.180
by the local project funding.

00:50:33.180 --> 00:50:40.020
So we have 30,000 in there and I just think we should be able to do it with this project

00:50:40.020 --> 00:50:41.020
funding enough.

00:50:41.020 --> 00:50:49.010
I'll share it.

00:50:49.010 --> 00:50:54.370
Motion to be approved by Mr. New, seconded by Mr. Maddow.

00:50:54.370 --> 00:50:56.370
Any discussion on this?

00:50:56.370 --> 00:52:32.380
Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Motion is approved. So we have an 8.4, which is, oh, sorry,

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8.5, HD 2611, the Township British participation we talked about earlier. Yeah. Motion to approve.

00:52:43.420 --> 00:52:47.540
Motion to approve. Mr. Nurtis, thank you, Mr. Jogerst, any discussion?

00:52:48.260 --> 00:54:29.650
Say none. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.

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contract. I did, it's, I thought it was pretty much right in line with what I expected. I did add a few things that were not on the last bid. One was a, I switched from an old style gear pump to a load sense pump on the truck. It's a more modern, basically it's what everyone's running. I have things that were about the last county or

00:54:59.250 --> 00:55:11.330
One of the few last run of basic pump and parts are getting parts to come by with some of those older style things.

00:55:11.930 --> 00:55:15.790
I also added a tarp to it to be installed up there.

00:55:16.030 --> 00:55:28.830
Normally we did it at the shop, but it tends to get a little confusing when you have the truck up there and their welding brackets on the truck for something that they're not mounting.

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So if they have it in front of them, it's easier to put brackets and some of the tie-downs on right there.

00:55:36.990 --> 00:55:45.470
And then another thing there that added to the cost, their labor, I think, from 23 has gone up $20 an hour.

00:55:45.570 --> 00:55:49.010
They went from $140 an hour to $160.

00:55:49.710 --> 00:55:56.870
So total cost, I think our last bid was $114,000, $115,000, somewhere in there.

00:55:56.870 --> 00:56:00.370
and this one was 135, is that right?

00:56:00.590 --> 00:56:01.650
I don't know if I learned from you.

00:56:02.730 --> 00:56:07.770
So it was like 13,500 just in stuff that I added.

00:56:08.730 --> 00:56:16.430
So if you add 10% for everything else, we're pretty much right in line.

00:56:17.190 --> 00:56:18.990
I was pretty satisfied with it.

00:56:18.990 --> 00:56:31.910
So, and that gets it locked in for, I'm not going to say, but it's going to be over a year

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yet until you get to this.

00:56:33.210 --> 00:56:40.890
I'm going to say it will be next fall, fall of 27, before they will get to it.

00:56:42.110 --> 00:56:43.950
And when do we expect the truck?

00:56:45.690 --> 00:56:48.090
The truck is sitting in the room waiting.

00:56:48.990 --> 00:57:17.810
Oh my God, and things have changed a lot. I thought the salesman from Monroe said now what he's starting to see is they're bidding the snow and ice equipment before they're actually bidding the cabin chassis out. They're bidding that out since it's so far out. And then they they're getting the cabin chassis after the fact. So it's it's a real

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it's a real screwed up process so have we been built you know i apologize no we do not have that kind of a chance yeah mix it up with the last one yeah it's the end the end of this year okay is when we'll see it okay i think he's when i talked to him he said somewhere november ish he said it was just

00:57:40.430 --> 00:57:46.030
we just are like recently purchased that right yeah we just took yeah it was

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was March this year, I believe, yeah, so cabin chassis is in the budget for this year, but this would fall in probably 27.

00:58:00.330 --> 00:58:11.230
When do we pay for the truck? When is it technically delivered? After the equipment's been put on it, or before that, and it's simply full roll?

00:58:11.230 --> 00:58:14.990
We pay for the cabin chassis when it's delivered to Monroe

00:58:14.990 --> 00:58:19.310
When Freightliner releases it or the dealer truck hunter releases it

00:58:19.310 --> 00:58:20.590
We pay for the cabin chassis

00:58:20.590 --> 00:58:22.650
The good thing is

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They do not start the warranty

00:58:25.930 --> 00:58:27.710
Until

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We contact them with snow and ice equipment installed

00:58:32.550 --> 00:58:35.990
Because the last one we got

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There's a few minor things I want to do to that yet before we start using it

00:58:40.830 --> 00:58:43.230
and I haven't started the warranty on how it's heavy.

00:58:44.030 --> 00:58:49.450
So the salesman actually called me and asked me if it was a service and said no.

00:58:50.010 --> 00:58:55.410
So we're going to hold off and maybe in the next one I'll contact you about that.

00:58:56.850 --> 00:59:06.590
So it's a kind of a disastrous process right now with everything.

00:59:06.590 --> 00:59:08.430
Yeah, so

00:59:08.430 --> 00:59:13.090
When did you anticipate the equipment being installed? Fall 27, did you say?

00:59:13.290 --> 00:59:13.530
Yeah

00:59:13.530 --> 00:59:18.030
So it'll sit up there for about 10 months, roughly

00:59:18.030 --> 00:59:18.730
Yes

00:59:18.730 --> 00:59:28.890
Well, it's crazy, I mean, I don't know if any of you have been up there, but if there's a hill behind there, the whole hill is just plastered with cabin chances

00:59:28.890 --> 00:59:36.210
It's, I'll bet they have hundreds, oh yeah, maybe three, four hundred of them sitting up there

00:59:36.210 --> 00:59:39.730
I think there's some down by Banger State sitting there too.

00:59:40.230 --> 00:59:49.750
They've opened up another facility trying to put equipment on there in the room and they're transporting some of the stuff to different facilities like in Joliet.

00:59:49.750 --> 01:00:05.120
Facilities like in Joliet, I think there's one over by Milwaukee, trying to, and Bunnell's no better in Monroe, or Dixon, they're, they're out over, well over a year or two, so.

01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:15.440
And so what's the bottom line after that? Why is it so, and why does it take so?

01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:41.640
So, I think from COVID, there was a backup where they were waiting on all these trucks, on these chassis, and then the chassis started coming in, flooded them, and all these builders, and they just have never caught up since.

01:00:41.640 --> 01:00:45.520
And honestly, I think they have the same problem everyone has

01:00:45.520 --> 01:00:52.720
The turnover rate for their help is crazy

01:00:52.720 --> 01:01:00.040
And it's not something, building trucks like that's not an easy job

01:01:00.040 --> 01:01:03.700
I mean, you have to have somebody to oversee what's going on

01:01:03.700 --> 01:01:07.860
It's not just bolt a box on a frame

01:01:07.860 --> 01:01:10.620
And it's hydraulics, it's electric

01:01:10.620 --> 01:01:17.440
there, you know, there's a lot going on with that, so I don't know how they, it's got to

01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:23.000
be tough for them, but that seems like it's the way of the world, and I'm unfortunate.

01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:31.380
All right, now that that's a good excuse, it's the one that I've heard, so.

01:01:34.860 --> 01:01:35.980
Any other questions?

01:01:37.380 --> 01:01:38.320
Budget committee.

01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:46.250
to make a motion from Mr. Jogerst, to approve, second, I'll get through this, your matter, all further

01:01:46.250 --> 01:01:51.890
discussion, say none, all those in favor, say aye. Aye, aye. Motion is approved.

01:01:51.890 --> 01:02:48.480
I'm not on the committee but I did want to update everybody on the sheriff

01:02:48.480 --> 01:02:54.700
and Crime Suppression Unit, has been trained to operate portable scales, and they already

01:02:54.700 --> 01:02:57.860
have their first ticket slash arrest.

01:02:58.820 --> 01:03:05.480
They got a dump truck up by Dakota, I believe, that was stealing rock out of a quarry.

01:03:06.600 --> 01:03:07.660
Is there a quarry up in Dakota?

01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:09.240
Dakota or Davis, one of those?

01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:10.120
Davis, Davis.

01:03:10.120 --> 01:03:10.560
Davis.

01:03:11.300 --> 01:03:16.700
So the guy, tandem axle, 28,000 pounds per axle.

01:03:16.700 --> 01:03:43.260
No driver's license, no truck license, no insurance, overweight, while stealing the rock out of the quarry. So he was actually going in there at night, operating backhoe, I'm assuming, loading the trucks up, driving them out. Now, because of, I know I'm going to say this wrong, so please don't judge me on it.

01:03:43.260 --> 01:04:08.480
The pre-trial is part of the safety act. Regardless, it was Friday. He wrote him all the tickets and had to release it and release the truck as well. So I don't think he's stealing necessarily. He's operating. That just, I can't get past. They can't, yeah, they didn't impound the truck.

01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:12.400
They let him drive away in the truck, even though he had no license.

01:04:12.620 --> 01:04:16.360
All the time, apparently. That's how it's required to go.

01:04:16.680 --> 01:04:20.100
No insurance, either. I'm more worried about not having insurance.

01:04:20.100 --> 01:04:21.380
Insurance, license, all that.

01:04:21.380 --> 01:04:25.340
Even if he had insurance, if he's not licensed, the insurance would never pay a claim or anything.

01:04:26.420 --> 01:04:37.320
But the good part of that is they were up and operating and they've got their first person, so we have the ability to operate.

01:04:37.320 --> 01:04:38.440
and a big whabby.

01:04:39.720 --> 01:04:41.260
Yeah, it just kept going.

01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:42.860
Did they have their own vulnerable scale?

01:04:43.540 --> 01:04:43.740
Yep.

01:04:45.740 --> 01:04:47.640
Apparently the scales aren't that expensive.

01:04:47.900 --> 01:04:50.660
It was getting the training done, but the state police didn't train.

01:04:51.080 --> 01:04:51.860
Oh, thanks.

01:04:52.240 --> 01:04:55.680
That's one thing where government is fast and effective.

01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:58.280
Is it 60 days?

01:04:58.680 --> 01:04:59.800
Wow, that's crazy.

01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:03.780
I think they're outside of Nuevo Tocqueso now.

01:05:05.180 --> 01:05:05.420
Yeah.

01:05:05.420 --> 01:05:10.240
Well, you don't think that guy backed down to $80,000?

01:05:10.980 --> 01:05:11.720
I don't know.

01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:12.880
When he got that email.

01:05:16.480 --> 01:05:19.300
So, anyway, what it works.

01:05:22.330 --> 01:05:30.510
Car expression unit isn't just focusing on overweight trucks, but they got a tip on this one, so it's

01:05:30.510 --> 01:05:32.490
they have the ability to.

01:05:33.010 --> 01:05:33.950
Yeah, absolutely.

01:05:34.950 --> 01:05:37.570
Well, this wasn't just an overweight truck.

01:05:37.690 --> 01:05:42.230
That's all we thought it was, it's for sure, yes, worked out to you, far worse

01:05:42.230 --> 01:05:47.150
And you know, it wasn't just that one night that he was staying there

01:05:47.150 --> 01:05:48.890
No, he's been doing it a long time

01:05:48.890 --> 01:05:50.770
And they're just like, why?

01:05:50.950 --> 01:05:53.310
Because that was my first question, how's he loading the truck?

01:05:54.050 --> 01:05:55.430
It's like, well, he's operating tobacco

01:05:55.430 --> 01:05:57.930
Wow

01:05:57.930 --> 01:05:59.550
That's fuzzy

01:05:59.550 --> 01:06:01.050
That's enterprising

01:06:01.050 --> 01:06:01.550
Yeah

01:06:01.550 --> 01:06:03.590
And illegal

01:06:03.590 --> 01:06:05.590
Crazy

01:06:05.590 --> 01:06:22.630
and the other comments on that motion to adjourn so it looks like birds to sacrifice

01:06:22.630 --> 01:06:31.250
mr. goes right back all those favorite I thank you everyone I wasn't sure I was in the end

01:06:31.250 --> 01:06:32.630
I know, I know.

