WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:11.000 Okay, all right, it's a meeting of the Court Services Committee, Wednesday, August 2012, 00:00:11.280 --> 00:00:20.270 2026, appreciate everybody coming, our first item is prayer, I'll take care of that, Heavenly 00:00:20.270 --> 00:00:27.930 Father, we thank you for allowing us to get together, and allowing all these dedicated individuals 00:00:27.930 --> 00:00:33.690 to come and do the best they can for the people of Stevenson County. 00:00:34.790 --> 00:00:42.610 Father, we would ask that you would guide us through the process of the budget and make the best use of the tax dollars. 00:00:43.110 --> 00:00:44.150 In Jesus' name, amen. 00:00:44.570 --> 00:00:44.890 Amen. 00:00:47.290 --> 00:00:50.210 3.0 would be the approval of the agenda. 00:00:50.850 --> 00:00:51.750 Motion to approve. 00:00:51.970 --> 00:00:53.290 Motion by Mr. Hadley. 00:00:53.290 --> 00:00:54.290 I'll make a second. 00:00:54.710 --> 00:00:55.870 Second by Ms. Williams. 00:00:55.870 --> 00:01:25.550 Any discussion? Seeing none. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Those opposed, same sign. Motion passes. 4.0 is the review and approval of the meeting minutes from July 8, 2026 meeting. Can I get it up? I'll make a motion to approve the meeting minutes. Second. Motion by Ms. Williams. Second by Mr. Hadley. Any discussion? Seeing none. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. 00:01:25.870 --> 00:02:02.660 Those opposed, same sign. Motion passes. Approval of claims in the amount of $52,258.26. Is there a motion? Motion to approve. Motion by Mr. Hadley. I'll make a second. Second by Ms. Williams. Any discussion? Anyone want to look at the stack of bills? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. 00:02:02.660 --> 00:02:22.030 Okay, those opposed, same sign. Hearing none, motion passes. Public comment? Seeing none, reports to committee. Judge Houser, do you have a report or do you just want to wait for the budget? 00:02:23.870 --> 00:02:31.350 What I would report would be summarized by these four exceptional people, so I will let them take care. It's nice to see you, folks. 00:02:31.350 --> 00:02:33.090 Yes, nice to see you too, Judge 00:02:33.090 --> 00:02:34.930 Although I did just see you the other day 00:02:34.930 --> 00:02:35.970 But thanks for coming 00:02:35.970 --> 00:02:39.450 Okay, moving on to Public Defender 00:02:39.450 --> 00:02:45.730 I just have budget stuff, not necessarily any comments 00:02:45.730 --> 00:02:47.310 So I think I'm good 00:02:47.310 --> 00:02:47.990 Thank you 00:02:47.990 --> 00:02:48.850 Thank you 00:02:48.850 --> 00:02:51.070 Dr. McGee 00:02:51.070 --> 00:02:52.310 Good evening 00:02:52.310 --> 00:02:54.790 The only thing I would report is 00:02:54.790 --> 00:02:56.950 I think I saw it last month 00:02:56.950 --> 00:02:59.170 We did have our new probation supervisor start 00:02:59.170 --> 00:03:01.090 She's three days in 00:03:01.090 --> 00:03:02.270 She's come back 00:03:02.270 --> 00:03:04.250 So, so far, so good 00:03:04.250 --> 00:03:05.410 That's a good job 00:03:05.410 --> 00:03:12.710 But no, she brings a wealth of knowledge and experience and a lot of wisdom, so I'm excited 00:03:12.710 --> 00:03:19.300 Would you just refresh my memory, was she a local person or 00:03:19.300 --> 00:03:24.020 No, she was in Cook County, worked there for 20 years 00:03:24.020 --> 00:03:26.200 Okay, okay, that's right, I remember that now, okay 00:03:26.200 --> 00:03:28.560 Anything else? 00:03:28.980 --> 00:03:29.840 No, that's it 00:03:29.840 --> 00:03:31.320 Okay, thank you very much 00:03:31.320 --> 00:03:31.840 Thank you 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:33.800 Mr. Larson 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:47.300 Everyone should have our report to court services, happy to answer any questions you had, but otherwise, I know we've got a lot of ground to cover, and I'll save any further comments on the budget. 00:03:48.140 --> 00:03:55.190 Okay, Ms. Bardell? 00:03:56.630 --> 00:04:04.550 She had my report also, and I don't have much to say. It's been a busy last month, but it's very trial and everything. 00:04:04.550 --> 00:04:23.240 Diversion Fee, $542.02 was deposited and it's a total of $3,655.30. 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:28.890 I'm guessing that there's a check that has not yet been cashed. 00:04:29.390 --> 00:04:31.190 But without Georgia here we probably can't. 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:36.680 Okay, old business seeing none. 00:04:37.320 --> 00:04:40.100 New business we've got a whole lot of. 00:04:40.100 --> 00:04:49.520 So, the approval of the ordinance amending civil peace and criminal and traffic assessments charged by the clerk of the circuit court 00:04:49.520 --> 00:04:59.740 So I have to apologize, I left that folder on my desk, but Jasmine is printing it off for me, so she should be bringing that down in a minute 00:04:59.740 --> 00:05:00.100 Okay 00:05:00.100 --> 00:05:10.060 We were informed that the governor signed a bill adding $5 to the guardianship and advocacy fund 00:05:10.060 --> 00:05:19.100 and repealing another part of the guardianship fee that went into effect July 1st. 00:05:20.100 --> 00:05:26.980 We weren't informed by the Association of Illinois Ports until I think it was August 3rd or something. 00:05:26.980 --> 00:05:41.440 So we're trying to amend that ordinance, adding the $5, which goes to the state, not us, and removing another $100 fee. 00:05:41.440 --> 00:05:49.740 We reviewed it, and hopefully it'll be coming down and we can look at it in a second. 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:55.740 So the $100 fee is something that they, did we use to collect the $100 fee? 00:05:55.740 --> 00:05:58.240 We did, and I believe that went to the state too, though. 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:27.760 So do you know how much we're going to lose or I mean was this always going to the state or was this coming to us and now the state wants it I'm going to have to double check on that but I believe the $100 fee was broken up 90 and 10 I think the state was getting 90 and I'm not sure if we were getting 10 I'm not sure how much will we will be losing it doesn't sound like we're going to lose a lot 00:06:27.760 --> 00:06:46.700 Yeah. We don't really have an option. They signed it in the 11th hour, I guess, in the farm bill, and that's why no one noticed that it went through. And we were hoping that they would give us time to implement it, but it was effective immediately. 00:06:47.220 --> 00:07:02.080 Okay. Well, should we just move on to the, skip over that one and review and go down to the review and roll up your proposed budget, and then we come back to that. 00:07:02.080 --> 00:07:39.530 Sure. So the first budget we have is 804. It's in the general fund. So the department head, my salary is by resolution. The administrative assistant is by the county budget policy, the 3.5 percent. And then the regular circuit clerk deputies is a union contract of a dollar increase. 00:07:39.530 --> 00:08:11.000 Before time, we haven't had to do weekend court or anything. I'm hoping we won't. I did lower that. $2,000. Stationary stayed the same. Shrouding stayed the same. Postage miscellaneous stayed the same. E-citation, I lowered $10,000. A lot of that stuff, we had to pay more up front, so I shouldn't be using as much. 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:14.140 and service contracts stay the same. 00:08:16.220 --> 00:08:22.180 I know in a lot of some of these items, you know, I budget for stuff, but I have spent less. 00:08:22.780 --> 00:08:31.900 And that's because of the technology grant or the access to justice grant, which I never know if I'm going to be getting or how much. 00:08:32.380 --> 00:08:35.100 Last year, the technology grant was only $50,000. 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:39.160 And the year before, we got $310,000. 00:08:39.160 --> 00:08:45.020 I still budget for it, but thankfully I haven't had to spend it all because I've had other resources, 00:08:45.020 --> 00:08:46.940 but you never know what you'll get in the future. 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:47.700 Okay. 00:08:49.020 --> 00:08:50.520 Any questions on that? 00:08:51.560 --> 00:08:52.120 Any questions? 00:08:53.240 --> 00:08:54.260 Just a comment. 00:08:55.300 --> 00:09:00.640 From the 2026 budget to the 2027 budget, it looks like it's lower. 00:09:01.640 --> 00:09:03.620 Am I, if I'm reading that right, correct? 00:09:04.140 --> 00:09:04.500 Yes. 00:09:05.040 --> 00:09:08.440 So her budget's coming in lower than from last year's budget. 00:09:09.160 --> 00:09:38.660 All right, then we go on to 807, which is jury. The juror amount stayed the same. Stationary supplies and postage. I did raise that a little because we have to, the postage is going up and I have to buy envelopes and we've been sending out a lot of, a lot of summonses and a lot of reminder summonses. So I did raise that 500. 00:09:39.160 --> 00:09:59.920 Jer meals stayed the same and printing and binding at first I did raise that a little bit but I think I can move that back down to a thousand that was one 00:09:59.920 --> 00:10:01.550 That was one thing that I didn't change back 00:10:01.550 --> 00:10:02.770 Okay 00:10:02.770 --> 00:10:07.610 Any questions? 00:10:08.150 --> 00:10:10.580 Any questions? 00:10:11.060 --> 00:10:16.180 So you're going to change that in the computer then? 00:10:16.260 --> 00:10:16.960 Yeah, I will 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:18.280 Okay 00:10:18.280 --> 00:10:30.850 We have to put out of document storage next 00:10:30.850 --> 00:10:34.880 So the expenses, the middle 00:10:34.880 --> 00:10:38.020 Stationery and supplies, they're the same 00:10:38.020 --> 00:10:41.180 Last year the grant was $50,000 00:10:41.180 --> 00:10:43.260 So that's what I put in for this year 00:10:43.260 --> 00:10:44.340 I have no idea 00:10:44.340 --> 00:10:51.720 Yeah, what it will be or if they even offer it. So that's something, if I get it, I spend 00:10:51.720 --> 00:10:58.540 it. If I don't, I'll spend it. Office equipment, stay the same, and lease and maintenance, stay 00:10:58.540 --> 00:11:15.070 the same. Any questions? Your interest income, where does that come from? That comes from 00:11:15.070 --> 00:11:32.010 our account, and we get some on one of our other accounts, one of our other bank accounts. 00:11:32.010 --> 00:11:59.700 And the last one is automation, which is 25, stationary and supplies stay the same, office equipment the same, and lease and maintenance the same. 00:11:59.700 --> 00:12:05.650 Questions on that page? 00:12:06.070 --> 00:12:26.810 Mr. Chairman, can we approve this even though there's a change on that one amount? 00:12:26.810 --> 00:12:40.140 You can make a motion to amend, or you could just go over until next month and ask her to represent it as you're wishing, whatever you want to do 00:12:40.140 --> 00:12:40.860 Okay 00:12:40.860 --> 00:12:49.820 Well, I think you get to approve all four separate, is that correct? 00:12:49.820 --> 00:12:51.460 You should approve separately 00:12:51.460 --> 00:12:52.160 Okay 00:12:52.160 --> 00:12:58.740 All right, well, let's start with the 804 00:12:58.740 --> 00:13:22.040 Can I get a motion or second? 00:13:22.660 --> 00:13:23.540 I'll make a second 00:13:23.540 --> 00:13:24.220 Okay 00:13:24.220 --> 00:13:26.080 Motion by Mr. Hadley 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:27.280 Second by Mr. 00:13:27.280 --> 00:13:53.420 Williams. Any discussion? I think it's pretty much already had that. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Those opposed, same sign. Okay, that page passes. Next page is the jury commission 807. Could I get a motion to amend this, the line 51300 from $1,500 down to $1,000? 00:13:53.420 --> 00:14:25.380 No, that's the wrong one. It's $6,200. Oh, sorry. Yep. I read that wrong. Sorry. It's $6,200. You're going to get a motion to amend that. I'll make a motion to amend that down to $1,000. Motion by Ms. Williams. Second. Second by Mr. Hadley. Any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed, same sign. Motion passes. 00:14:25.380 --> 00:14:41.000 The next one is 22 document storage is the last one. No, sorry, I'm sorry. Document storage is the next one. 00:14:46.800 --> 00:14:49.300 I just want to go get something together real quick. 00:14:53.250 --> 00:14:59.860 So on the tech, can I ask her something? 00:14:59.920 --> 00:15:00.120 Yes. 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:07.920 So on the technology, it's going from 300 down to 50? 00:15:08.860 --> 00:15:11.800 Yes. And this year we only got 50. 00:15:11.800 --> 00:16:07.500 Oh, okay. So that's what we're going to budget is that. And you think that we're going to make revenue an extra $10,000 then on the document storage fee from $60,000 to $70,000? Last year you budgeted $60,000 for revenue. You're budgeting $70,000. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I just want to look at some numbers here first. Yeah. Motion to approve. I'll make a second. Okay. Motion by Mr. Williams. Second by Ms. Williams. 00:16:07.780 --> 00:16:14.860 Okay, no further discussion. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed, same sign. 00:16:15.520 --> 00:16:22.440 Hearing none, motion passes. The document storage budget. And then the last but not least is the 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:51.300 court automation. Any further discussion? I'll make a second. Second by Ms. Williams. All those in favor say aye. Aye. 00:16:51.300 --> 00:16:58.710 Opposed, same sign. Motion passes. Great. 00:16:59.090 --> 00:17:01.310 It's not cutting, so I'm just going to run over and go right back. 00:17:01.410 --> 00:17:01.690 All right. 00:17:01.690 --> 00:17:03.370 Hopefully, I'll be back before you're done. 00:17:03.610 --> 00:17:04.290 Okay, thank you. 00:17:04.610 --> 00:17:13.610 We'll move on to the state's attorney, Mr. Larson. 00:17:15.690 --> 00:17:16.210 Thank you. 00:17:16.530 --> 00:17:19.090 Everyone should have our budget in front of you. 00:17:19.210 --> 00:17:21.990 It's the long sheet right here like this. 00:17:24.080 --> 00:17:25.520 It is a status quo budget. 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:29.100 The only changes are changes that have been pre-approved by the county board. 00:17:29.100 --> 00:17:32.340 So, be happy to answer any questions you may have. 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:05.600 I will make a motion. 00:18:06.080 --> 00:18:06.440 Thank you. 00:18:06.700 --> 00:18:07.260 Ms. Williams? 00:18:07.780 --> 00:18:08.080 Second. 00:18:08.080 --> 00:18:10.300 Yeah, second, but, okay, second. 00:18:10.300 --> 00:18:11.420 But I want to, look. 00:18:11.420 --> 00:18:14.260 Yeah, yep, no, no, just take some time, go ahead and take some time. 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:15.140 Thank you. 00:18:15.380 --> 00:18:16.060 Yep, yep. 00:18:16.060 --> 00:19:39.850 A $1,000 grant, I see that through 731, we've only, is it, refresh my memory, is this a grant 00:19:39.850 --> 00:19:41.130 we get from the state then? 00:19:41.550 --> 00:19:48.720 I don't remember whether that's a state or a federal grant. 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:57.360 We're in partnership with the Free Fork Police Department and Voices. Voices kind of 00:19:57.360 --> 00:20:11.840 Boyce is kind of rose the laboring war in the grant application and then we just kind of add our aspect of that partnership to the grant and then the money comes to this. 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:19.760 Okay then. What happens if we don't use the whole $40,000? Is it a rollover? 00:20:19.760 --> 00:20:44.360 Sure. I think it's largely a reimbursement. Oh, okay. Like we could use up to $40,000 and they'll give us up to $40,000, but I think if we don't use it, we don't get it. Okay. Okay. Okay. So that's, just to piggyback on bills, so you're saying that the grant is going to be $42,000? No. 00:20:44.360 --> 00:20:47.340 The grant will be $40,000. 00:20:47.740 --> 00:20:49.500 The grant will be $40,000? 00:20:49.760 --> 00:20:50.100 Yes. 00:20:50.320 --> 00:20:52.880 So the difference would have to come out of the... 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:54.220 There is no difference. 00:20:54.780 --> 00:20:56.180 Whatever we use, we use. 00:20:56.320 --> 00:20:58.400 Whatever we don't use, we don't get. 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:01.980 Looks like it's hooked, though. 00:21:02.360 --> 00:21:04.520 We're talking about a person, though, aren't we? 00:21:05.180 --> 00:21:06.340 A person's salary? 00:21:06.940 --> 00:21:11.000 It reimburses a part of one of our assistance-based attorney's salaries, yes. 00:21:11.460 --> 00:21:15.260 And also pays for some trainings and things of that nature. 00:21:15.260 --> 00:21:20.880 Okay, so there's more to it than just, there's more to it than a person. 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:21.660 Yes. 00:21:22.080 --> 00:21:37.500 Got it. So I have a question, though, too, about your travel expense. Looks like, am I reading this right, you've spent more than what you budgeted? 00:21:37.500 --> 00:22:07.500 that could very well be we had two trials where we had to bring people in from out of state and a variety of training opportunities that we took advantage of as well but our overall budget will be well under budget this year and if you want to 00:22:07.500 --> 00:22:37.480 on how under budget we are. July, the beginning of July, is 58% of a year. If you look at the numbers, we used 50% of our budget. So that's the end of July, so it should be even more than 58% of our budget, meaning that we're about 8% under budget with a budget of $926,000. 00:22:37.500 --> 00:23:12.760 that should be about $70,000 under budget right now. Nice. Nice. I guess my problem is I don't see those figures that you're talking about. They're right here. No, no. I see what's on this budget sheet, but I don't see what... Am I missing a piece of paper here? No. Well, if you want to... I'm curious as to how he's comparing it that he's $70,000 under budget. 00:23:12.760 --> 00:23:28.480 Okay, so let's look at, I guess, why don't we, I mean, we may be even more, we're more under budget than that, but, so you see the 2026 through 7-31-26? 00:23:29.040 --> 00:23:29.280 Yep. 00:23:29.560 --> 00:23:32.860 Okay, so can we functionally call that August 1st? 00:23:33.320 --> 00:23:33.700 Sure. 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:37.300 Okay, or actually, I guess, let's say we're through the seventh month of the year. 00:23:38.140 --> 00:23:39.720 They're 12 months of the year. 00:23:41.300 --> 00:23:43.420 Let's get the old calculator out here. 00:23:43.420 --> 00:24:15.500 so seven is 58.33% of 12 so we're 58.33% through the year right then look down here at 2026 budget and then the amount spent through July 31st 2026 so our budget is 9026 978 and we've spent 469 00:24:15.500 --> 00:24:45.040 9640. So let's look at what we've spent as a percentage. So 469460, and we're going to add two zeros to that, divide it by 9267, and you have 50.66% of our budget is spent. So that means we're about 8% under budget right now. So let's figure out what 8% of 00:24:45.040 --> 00:25:08.480 92678, oops, I'm going to redo that, so this is our 2026 budget, 926978 times 0.08 equals $74,158 that we are under budget right now. 00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:39.770 okay so yes you are correct we're about double a little more even than double closer to triple our travel expense so that's about two thousand dollars twenty two hundred dollars over in that line item but the budget as a whole is seventy four thousand one hundred fifty eight dollars and twenty four cents under as of July 31st and I appreciate you taking the time to explain 00:25:39.770 --> 00:25:41.390 and get your explanation. 00:25:41.830 --> 00:25:42.010 Sure. 00:25:42.250 --> 00:25:42.710 Thank you. 00:25:45.060 --> 00:25:46.460 That is a remarkable job. 00:25:47.080 --> 00:25:47.560 Wonderful. 00:25:48.140 --> 00:25:53.700 Well, the savings is in lack of personnel, so I wish I didn't have that. 00:25:54.460 --> 00:25:58.920 Any further discussion? 00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:01.080 We have a motion and a second. 00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:04.680 Motion to approve. 00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:06.900 I'll make a second. 00:26:08.260 --> 00:26:10.720 Motion by Mr. Adley, second by Ms. Williams. 00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:12.680 All those in favor, say aye. 00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:13.140 Aye. 00:26:13.780 --> 00:26:14.960 Opposed, same sign. 00:26:15.580 --> 00:26:16.260 Motion passes. 00:26:16.620 --> 00:26:56.530 Thank you, Ms. Thornton. And judicial. Judge Howl, sir. Well, it's got the squealing line going through the middle of it. That's fine. And with one, the exception of one entry, everything is the same as last year. Although we moved, we want to move and eliminate two lines because we've determined we don't need them to put those funds into continuing education, which would again, 00:26:56.530 --> 00:27:26.130 and result in everything being the same request except for the very bottom, which is under the law library. Our research services, which is our contract with Westlaw, which is our electronic research tool that although it comes out of the law library budget, the public defender's office, 00:27:26.130 --> 00:27:58.180 the state's attorney's office all the judges and the law library have access to that and the contract that Judge McClendon in consultation with Travis and Carl here is going to be increased by 22% and it's basically just because of the much better capabilities of the research 00:27:58.180 --> 00:28:04.840 the abilities that we would have, and these two can speak to that much more eloquently than I can. 00:28:05.540 --> 00:28:08.680 Yeah, they've done some improvements with AI, I think. 00:28:09.220 --> 00:28:10.040 Yes, exactly. 00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:11.960 Yeah, you're absolutely right. 00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:17.700 It's making things a whole lot easier, basically, in a nutshell, doesn't it? 00:28:17.700 --> 00:28:20.140 I mean, you guys, you have guys that have anything to add to that. 00:28:20.340 --> 00:28:27.740 22% increase when you look at that, it's, you know, a big increase, but it's worth every time ever. 00:28:28.180 --> 00:28:54.160 Yeah, it would be a drastic change even in a couple of months. We've had access to that to go back to what we used to have had. I mean, it is an invaluable feature. One that we can't, maybe even the Westlaw by itself, we cannot function without having access to Westlaw. It's impossible in the legal profession to do it. But the access that this affords us is a time-saving tool alone. 00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:57.140 Yeah, it's a force multiplier. 00:28:58.220 --> 00:29:04.360 I mean, you can do more with fewer people, which is the situation that we're in, in the state's attorney's office. 00:29:04.800 --> 00:29:08.200 And also, there's an issue of competitiveness. 00:29:08.600 --> 00:29:15.020 Now, you know, if we did something else, we would probably, you know, you'd do the same thing for the state's attorney's office and the public defender's office. 00:29:15.520 --> 00:29:18.380 And so we would be on relatively equal ground in that way. 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:23.000 But the state's attorney's office doesn't just try cases against the public defenders. 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:32.960 We tried cases against private attorneys of all varieties, and they have access to it, and we needed to be competitive with them. 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:45.540 And I understand it's a lot of money, but it's like telling the sheriff's stephanies they can't have squad cars or bullets or handcuffs or something like that. 00:29:45.600 --> 00:29:48.480 I mean, this is something we need to do our jobs. 00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:53.140 Your Honor. 00:29:53.140 --> 00:29:56.000 So if I'm reading this right 00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:59.400 So, if I'm reading this right, you want 700, you want to close out two line items? 00:30:00.020 --> 00:30:00.460 That's correct. 00:30:00.660 --> 00:30:12.320 And move those two line items into continued education that would move that 2,400 up to 31? 00:30:13.260 --> 00:30:13.880 That's correct. 00:30:14.460 --> 00:30:14.860 Okay. 00:30:15.540 --> 00:30:17.740 You didn't make the changes in the computer yet? 00:30:18.580 --> 00:30:20.100 It did not happen, though. 00:30:20.100 --> 00:30:23.780 Matt and I weren't sure how to proceed on that until we 00:30:23.780 --> 00:30:27.660 this is where we're at. I apologize. 00:30:28.760 --> 00:30:35.840 We can amend that. Remove the two lines. 00:30:37.600 --> 00:30:38.040 Yeah. 00:30:38.800 --> 00:30:40.000 Where are the two lines? 00:30:40.360 --> 00:30:43.000 I see that where the two lines. 00:30:43.100 --> 00:30:45.480 There'll be a budget note next to the two that we're going to eliminate. 00:30:46.120 --> 00:30:49.160 Both Kathy said investigation expense. 00:30:50.100 --> 00:30:52.740 Okay, yeah, between the two of them, total $700 00:30:52.740 --> 00:30:54.980 Oh, yeah, I see it now 00:30:54.980 --> 00:31:01.380 How do you want to do this motion? 00:31:01.380 --> 00:31:04.860 Can I get a motion to remove those two lines, I think, first 00:31:04.860 --> 00:31:13.940 Well, remove those two lines and add that $700 to the 001-805-68-130 line 00:31:13.940 --> 00:31:15.200 Is that the right line? 00:31:16.800 --> 00:31:19.660 You probably want to be more clarified 00:31:19.660 --> 00:31:20.340 Okay 00:31:20.340 --> 00:31:50.340 We'll take out line 001-805-62-200 We'll actually move it to Okay, let's just remove it first Let's just remove that line and the other line is 001-806-68-200 Correct We'll remove those two lines Can I get a motion? Motion I'll make a second 00:31:50.340 --> 00:32:20.340 motion to remove these two lines from the judicial budget all those in favor say aye aye opposed same sign motion passes and we'll make a motion to increase line 001-805-68-130 continuing education to $3,100 from $2,400 00:32:20.340 --> 00:32:51.550 I'll second. Second by Ms. Williams. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed, same sign. Motion passes. Okay, and then we'll need a motion to pass the budget. The amended budget. I'll make a motion to approve the amended judicial budget. Motion by Ms. Williams. Second. Second by Mr. Hadley. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed, same sign. Hearing none. 00:32:51.590 --> 00:32:52.870 Budget Passes. 00:32:53.750 --> 00:32:55.930 Do you have to do the law library budget too? 00:32:56.010 --> 00:32:56.630 Is that a separate? 00:32:58.230 --> 00:32:59.990 1-0-5, 1-0-8. 00:33:02.070 --> 00:33:03.950 Mr. Helms, is that? 00:33:04.510 --> 00:33:07.470 If you didn't include it in your motion to approve it, then yes, you need to. 00:33:07.510 --> 00:33:08.610 You need to do a separate motion. 00:33:08.610 --> 00:33:09.130 Okay. 00:33:10.990 --> 00:33:19.750 We were not specific with our motion for the judicial and the court expenses, 00:33:19.750 --> 00:33:20.250 Okay. 00:33:20.250 --> 00:33:22.130 Which is what we're saying we have just approved. 00:33:22.130 --> 00:33:22.370 Approved. 00:33:22.730 --> 00:33:23.010 Okay. 00:33:23.130 --> 00:33:30.990 So we approved the, so we need two more motions or one motion to approve the court ordered and 00:33:30.990 --> 00:33:32.090 the law library. 00:33:32.210 --> 00:33:33.050 Can we do those two together? 00:33:33.970 --> 00:33:35.350 You can do whatever you want. 00:33:35.750 --> 00:33:40.110 Approving them separately is just for transparency purposes, but if you want to include them, you 00:33:40.110 --> 00:33:40.670 can include them. 00:33:40.950 --> 00:33:41.150 Okay. 00:33:41.710 --> 00:33:45.110 Well, just give me a, if we can get a motion to approve, we'll do them single. 00:33:45.330 --> 00:33:45.590 Okay. 00:33:45.670 --> 00:33:47.030 Motion to approve court ordered. 00:33:47.770 --> 00:33:48.130 Court ordered. 00:33:48.130 --> 00:33:49.170 That was amended. 00:33:49.750 --> 00:34:21.810 that was amended. I'll make a second. Okay. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed, same sign. Okay. So we have two passed. Now we will do the law library. Can I get a motion to approve? I'll make a motion to approve the law library. Motion by Ms. Williams. Second. Second by Mr. Hadley. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed, same sign. Motion passes. 00:34:22.310 --> 00:34:35.120 Okay. Thank you. Move on to probation. 00:34:35.120 --> 00:35:26.540 All right. So I have two budgets. The first one should have a highlighted page that shows the 020 probation service fees. Beginning with that budget, essentially, all line items come out of probation service fees. So I'm just going to open it up to any questions you might have. Yeah. Through probation service fees. 00:35:26.540 --> 00:36:12.220 Yes, that's before we just had kids, but we're including everything and we're getting ready to get a new drug testing system going. So I put that under there as well. So excited about that. Trying to keep up with technology. 00:36:12.220 --> 00:36:22.780 So if I'm reading this, Ray, it looks like our revenue is going to be down in the service fees from the projected 659 to 617. 00:36:22.780 --> 00:36:42.700 Yes, I am projecting that just because we're not taking in as much in probation service fees. We no longer charge for drug testing fees and if cases get closed out in probation service fees, it's just harder to collect, I guess. 00:36:43.420 --> 00:36:50.660 And your expenses look like they're down from last year from 196 to 178 if I'm reading this, right? 00:36:50.660 --> 00:36:58.700 Yeah, so the expenses have gone down, though. So we've tried to make some modifications to adjust to the changes. 00:37:03.510 --> 00:37:06.430 So this is all fee-driven, this budget deal. 00:37:06.790 --> 00:37:10.550 What efforts do you use to collect fees? 00:37:11.710 --> 00:37:12.850 They're court-ordered. 00:37:13.090 --> 00:37:19.670 They're court-ordered, and so if they come in, they come in, and that's about all you can do. 00:37:19.670 --> 00:37:24.070 We file violations to attempt to collect those fees. 00:37:24.630 --> 00:37:26.590 Do they go to, like, collections? 00:37:26.930 --> 00:37:27.350 Do they hang out there? 00:37:27.350 --> 00:37:34.090 Some of them go to collections, and so that could take quite a while to get that money, if we get it. 00:37:34.890 --> 00:37:35.290 But, yeah. 00:37:35.410 --> 00:37:36.290 Well, and then... 00:37:36.290 --> 00:37:37.910 Some pay, some don't. 00:37:39.270 --> 00:37:41.750 Some have circumstances where they can't. 00:37:42.570 --> 00:37:46.250 They're just, there's no money coming in, so there's no money to pay anything. 00:37:46.730 --> 00:37:48.030 They're lucky they can exist. 00:37:48.750 --> 00:37:49.450 Pretty much. 00:37:49.450 --> 00:37:53.070 I mean, we try to be understanding of some of different people's circumstances. 00:37:53.070 --> 00:38:29.100 for the most part we do try and want to get those fees because that is our primary source okay motion to approve okay all right i'll second it the probation fees motion and a second approve the probation service fees budget all those in favor say aye aye same sign none motion passes thank you um the second one is the zero zero one 00:38:30.620 --> 00:38:37.220 Um, I don't see it listed, but I believe that it was understood that I was going to be presenting 00:38:37.220 --> 00:38:38.460 both of them. 00:38:38.460 --> 00:38:39.460 001. 00:38:39.460 --> 00:38:46.900 And that's, um, the county, I call that the county budget, should have both of them. 00:38:46.900 --> 00:38:48.340 Who did you submit it to? 00:38:48.340 --> 00:38:49.340 Georgia? 00:38:49.340 --> 00:38:50.340 Georgia. 00:38:50.340 --> 00:38:51.340 Uh-huh. 00:38:51.340 --> 00:38:52.340 Oh, I got three minutes. 00:38:52.340 --> 00:38:54.340 Um, to Georgia and Dale. 00:38:54.340 --> 00:38:56.820 And she told me that. 00:38:56.820 --> 00:38:58.820 All I have is the expenses. 00:38:58.820 --> 00:38:59.820 You mean 803? 00:38:59.820 --> 00:39:00.820 Yeah. 00:39:00.820 --> 00:39:37.100 803 months from the end. 803 and I've got expense. She said, yeah. Do you need both of these budgets approved tonight? Because there's something that you need. I have an annual plan. Probation service fees definitely has to be approved tonight because now some of the line items have moved per statute of probation. I prefer to do both of them because 00:39:37.120 --> 00:39:48.220 It could have an impact on my annual plan, but I mean, I can present it and not have it approved, but I don't know. 00:39:50.850 --> 00:39:53.050 I don't know why it wouldn't be approved. 00:39:53.050 --> 00:40:05.680 And I can go through and explain a few of the significant changes. 00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:20.160 That results in the biggest increase outside of salary. 00:40:20.300 --> 00:40:29.120 Salaries from the department head, which is myself, probation officers, supervisors, as well as bonuses are all reimbursed by the state. 00:40:29.120 --> 00:41:00.170 operations and are to support staff is per the county budget policy. The biggest change is the office equipment in which I put in for the vest. So that's why you see the 400 percent because we have to have 12 vests for the officers to go out into the field and they're going to expire. 00:41:00.170 --> 00:41:05.890 where previously probation has paid for those things, but due to statute, we can no longer pay for those. 00:41:05.890 --> 00:41:15.480 I'm thinking after we had our meeting that day, should we budget, you know, like a third of this every year? 00:41:15.940 --> 00:41:23.720 Can we even do that? Kind of like a savings account so when, you know, three years from now when you have to replace them again, 00:41:23.820 --> 00:41:27.720 it's not a 400% increase to seven. Is that even possible? 00:41:27.720 --> 00:41:40.380 So, mm, I mean, it's, I don't think, do you have to do five, can we go, is it three, or it's about five, because I think I did it in 22, so yeah, I have five years. 00:41:40.500 --> 00:41:41.120 Five years, okay. 00:41:42.560 --> 00:41:46.220 So I don't know if it would be necessary to do that. 00:41:47.060 --> 00:41:53.640 Now, bulletproof vests expire sometimes, and you've got to change them out. How good are they, how long are they good for both? 00:41:53.640 --> 00:41:55.240 Five, that's what we just said, five years. 00:41:55.240 --> 00:42:19.580 Okay. Yeah. Because I know in the military we had to always change out our bulletproof vessels. Yeah. So it's, I think it's a significant amount of time where we wouldn't need to. And this is for everybody then? This is for all officers. I have, it's for 10 officers and two supervisors who have to go out into the field to evaluate the officers. 00:42:19.580 --> 00:42:41.020 So, Dale, my opinion on that is you should be budgeting expenditures for the next fiscal year, not for subsequent years, unless you have a contract in place that's committing you to those dollars, but even so, I still don't see how you allocate excess funds on an expenditure line that you're not going to spend in that fiscal year. 00:42:41.420 --> 00:42:42.560 Okay, that makes sense. 00:42:43.340 --> 00:42:43.620 Thank you. 00:42:48.290 --> 00:42:49.470 I mean, it increases. 00:42:49.470 --> 00:42:59.250 And I did, I took the juvenile detention down by $10,000 to try to offset some of that just a little bit, but as we know, we never know how many 00:42:59.250 --> 00:43:14.290 You should have been back with us. Well, you were with us back in the 2000s when we were running into huge problems when we ran out of money at the detention and we had to find money put into the budget. 00:43:14.290 --> 00:43:15.970 I wasn't here then 00:43:15.970 --> 00:43:36.590 I mean, we went through a lot of money and had to find money. It was very difficult back in the early 2000s, you know, when we were doing that. But I see, you know, that's amazing. I mean, we used to spend $120,000 just like that. I mean, they were born a lot in at that time. 00:43:37.770 --> 00:43:43.150 You just never know. I mean, you can have it get in for 30 days. 00:43:43.150 --> 00:44:12.930 And I think it was more expensive because we were at Mary Taylor or what? Mary Davis. Mary Davis. Yeah, because the fees were quite expensive there. And since then, now we're over in Kane County or? Yes, Kane County. Yeah. So all of these numbers, you know, it's just depends on, you know, some of these circumstances. It's just, you know, it looks bad, 400% increase, but, you know, it is what it is. You need them. So I don't know how we get around it. 00:44:13.150 --> 00:44:44.960 I see the motion to approve. I'll make a second. Second motion by Mr. Hadley, second by Ms. Williams. Thank you. On the probation of budget. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed, same sign, seeing none. Budget passes. Now we can move down to the public defender, Mr. Luce. 00:44:44.960 --> 00:45:00.960 Mine should be the easy one to spot since I didn't even realize until I looked at this that I printed it in the small fashion that it is. So hopefully you can squint enough and see everything that's in there. If you can, I can take a picture and I'll blow it up on my phone for you. 00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:21.100 If the, if you know the top three that are in there, one is the one that bears that my salary is approved by a resolution, which includes the state mandated COLA, and also the change in statute that it then changes it to 95% of the state's attorney's office. 00:45:21.540 --> 00:45:32.440 Two below that are the budget policy, 3.5 COLA increases. All the other line items, with the exception of the professional due, stays exactly the same. 00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:45.520 I did not realize that we had been paying $750 towards the Chief Defender Association out of a different line, I don't want to explain this rather than the dues for whatever reason that was 00:45:45.520 --> 00:45:56.880 and then not using the rest of the remaining portions of that so that includes that as well as the Stevens County Bar Association dues for the attorneys in my office 00:45:56.880 --> 00:46:05.120 that amounts to a $1,000 change from last year to this year. With the exception of that, everything else is the same. 00:46:05.980 --> 00:46:27.000 You're not anticipating any office equipment? Over $500? Printer? I suppose those don't cost that much. 00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.640 Oh, well, it's got the $3,000 line item in there. 00:46:34.900 --> 00:46:38.500 Well, it's just that there's no money left in the account right now. That's why I'm wondering. 00:46:38.500 --> 00:47:25.540 That's the non, that's non-spent. I currently have $3,000. All right. Okay. Got it. Thank you. Motion to approve. I'll make a second. All right. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Same sign. No. Motion passes. But I don't know the process to this, too, but I have the additional supplements that are 00:47:25.540 --> 00:47:55.360 are attached to this. I don't know if that's such a nice thing. You can discuss it. I don't think there's an action item for that. Okay. So I have two of those that are there that you'll see, one of which, the first in that packet that you have is verbatim, the one that I submitted a couple of years ago. I'll be up front. I have absolutely no expectation that that is going to be granted, but I am including it because 00:47:55.540 --> 00:48:25.480 like I have told this committee as well as the department head meetings finances that I have a strong opinion that us in the county board rewarding people trying to get to the gym and then also it makes people healthier which then ultimately helps us with the insurance premiums that we're going to see continue to rise and rise and I know that overarchingly the insurance is a driving factor for employment here in the county if we were to lose that employment 00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:29.920 and we would be in a very bad situation, I think, for employees. 00:48:30.340 --> 00:48:38.020 So my proposal on there is based on the $19 a month that the county actually gets to the Blue Cross Blue Shield 00:48:38.020 --> 00:48:42.880 and spilling over with me reimbursing at the end of the year. 00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:48.600 But I won't go much into other detail as that because I'm assuming that there's going to be some other issues 00:48:48.600 --> 00:48:52.620 that this county is going to have to deal with other than the gym memberships. 00:48:52.620 --> 00:49:22.560 Yes, so I'll just look at that I appreciate you The second one I submitted is different from that is a supplemental request for what amounts to the third line item in the budget outside of the 3.5 COLA that's there I'm asking for an additional 2% for the support staff to outweigh what I anticipate to be the health insurance premiums increasing after I did the math it was just under one 00:49:22.560 --> 00:49:52.540 that would be a 90% worth of additional money they would need to have to offset the increase in premium price for them, which is going to be about 60-something, $61, $62 per pay period, or paycheck. This then would then offset that to allow that to at least experience some of the COVID. I understand the attorneys in my office are compensated well. I think this county board has done a good job of me being able to do that. 00:49:52.540 --> 00:49:55.200 has done a good job of me being able to be in a position to recruit people and keep people. 00:49:55.580 --> 00:50:02.420 So I'm not looking for that in every aspect of this, but I'm asking for the two support staff that I do have, 00:50:02.940 --> 00:50:04.760 which then in there is broken down. 00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:13.600 You can see the cost is a total of just over $1,800 with the IMRF of $1,478 and Social Security of $1,4137. 00:50:13.600 --> 00:50:35.440 I am also cognizant of the fact that I am certain other people have not asked for this and the concerns that that gives rise to with me making a request and nobody else adding that request and what issues that can arise from so I'm aware of it too but 00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:41.120 Because I take it your support staff is not covered under the union, correct? 00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:43.520 Right, right, we cannot unionize. 00:50:43.600 --> 00:50:44.720 Got it 00:50:44.720 --> 00:51:00.570 You know, we can't pass this in tonight, but we will definitely look at it and add it to the agenda for next month 00:51:00.570 --> 00:51:01.790 Thank you 00:51:01.790 --> 00:51:17.560 The budget policy is, you know, exact on what we should do and shouldn't do there 00:51:17.560 --> 00:51:25.020 But I do appreciate you, you know, trying to support your employees and give them all money 00:51:25.020 --> 00:51:26.980 Yeah, I get it, I get it 00:51:26.980 --> 00:51:28.340 You have great staff, I think 00:51:28.340 --> 00:51:39.340 Do you think Adrian's going to have the nice sheet that she fills out of all everybody's supplements and stuff? 00:51:39.720 --> 00:51:54.340 Once they're received, I believe besides the public defender, the only other one that we've seen has been for emergency management, and that's really, we're not sure that's actually going to be a supplemental request, 00:51:54.340 --> 00:51:58.380 But yes, there will be a format similar to what we've used in the past 00:51:58.380 --> 00:52:05.900 I know that my motion last year was delay the state's attorney's salary 00:52:05.900 --> 00:52:17.020 We split it, didn't we, from 7% and then we went 3.5 last year 00:52:17.020 --> 00:52:19.180 That sounds right 00:52:19.180 --> 00:52:24.100 Were you going to put in for another 3.5 or kind of leave it alone 00:52:24.100 --> 00:52:28.040 I was not planning on putting in for another three and a half 00:52:28.040 --> 00:52:29.280 Okay, then 00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:33.860 And that was for the attorneys which were trying to reach parity with the public defender's office 00:52:33.860 --> 00:52:41.420 But you guys wore me down 00:52:41.420 --> 00:52:43.860 I just wasn't going to ask again this year 00:52:43.860 --> 00:52:48.300 So you're still under 00:52:48.300 --> 00:52:50.740 I would have to look at it 00:52:50.740 --> 00:52:52.960 But the numbers I gave you last year 00:52:52.960 --> 00:53:21.440 if fully funded would have brought us into parity with the assistance of public defenders and then you cut that in half so I would assume that we're not in parity but I haven't examined that this year I know I made that motion last year so I just was wondering on that too so well I appreciate what you what you guys think but it looks like we might have a real tight budget this year I I would suspect so 00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:33.180 We'll just have to wait and see when we get some, when has she gone to project revenue numbers, we'll see them next month, then, hopefully, so we'll see some numbers and stuff, okay 00:53:33.180 --> 00:53:47.600 Okay, the next order of business is youth diversion, is there a budget for youth? No, there wasn't one, okay 00:53:47.600 --> 00:53:53.620 So that'll have to be laid over to next month, then we'll get it next month, okay 00:53:53.620 --> 00:54:06.060 Okay, and then we'll go back to, got us all copies of? 00:54:06.780 --> 00:54:36.640 Yes, what has been changed is in red, let me know, that's five dollars, is all on the civil filing fees, it didn't affect any of the criminal schedules towards the back. 00:54:38.980 --> 00:54:45.800 Okay, but didn't you say that this money, this, what's in red here is what I've added, correct? 00:54:45.860 --> 00:54:48.700 But also that's money that goes to the state 00:54:48.700 --> 00:54:53.300 Yeah, the additional $5 is going to go to the state 00:54:53.300 --> 00:55:02.700 So right now, if you are filing a new case, it would be $306 00:55:02.700 --> 00:55:09.020 But they're adding $5 to the guardianship and advocacy fund 00:55:09.020 --> 00:55:12.380 It's going to go up to $311 00:55:12.380 --> 00:55:13.440 Okay 00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:18.760 Yes 00:55:18.760 --> 00:55:19.460 Thank you 00:55:19.460 --> 00:55:20.160 Yes 00:55:20.160 --> 00:55:21.820 Yep, sorry, I missed you 00:55:21.820 --> 00:55:29.300 Okay. I thought you said there was somewhere we had to change something from $100. All I see is $5. 00:55:30.200 --> 00:55:37.020 They subtracted the $100 fee and that wasn't actually broken down in one of the schedules. 00:55:39.120 --> 00:55:42.380 So this will clean everything up then? 00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:42.820 Yes. 00:55:43.560 --> 00:55:45.080 By state statute, correct? 00:55:45.740 --> 00:55:46.260 Yes. 00:55:46.260 --> 00:55:51.140 Okay. Well, I see no issue. We can't go against what the state passes. 00:55:51.140 --> 00:56:24.840 No, no. Motion to approve. I'll make a second. Motion by Mr. Hadley, seconded by Ms. Williams. Any further discussion? Say amen. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Those opposed, same sign. Motion passes. I mean, if you do have a used diversion, I apologize, I didn't see it. I was trying to get my link on the tablet. 00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:54.410 I have a silly question, who put the youth conversion budget together? 00:56:54.770 --> 00:57:03.640 I believe I'm not 100% certain, but I know she's the one that placed the note on the documents. 00:57:10.430 --> 00:57:33.320 I'm kind of skewed because of the timing of the payment of the dollars, and that's what we changed it to last year. 00:57:34.180 --> 00:57:34.980 That stays the same. 00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:43.320 I make a motion to approve. 00:57:43.780 --> 00:57:47.170 Okay. Motion by Ms. Williams. 00:57:48.450 --> 00:57:48.930 Second. 00:57:49.310 --> 00:57:50.870 Second by Mr. Hadley. 00:57:51.470 --> 00:57:52.750 Any further discussion? 00:57:53.150 --> 00:58:24.450 Seeing none, all those in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed, same time. Okay, passes. Use diversion fund. Thank you for all the patience and information. That was a lot of numbers and a lot of papers. So, 10.0, adjournment. 00:58:24.450 --> 00:58:28.140 I'd like to make a motion to adjourn. 00:58:28.140 --> 00:58:29.820 Motion by Ms. Williams. 00:58:29.820 --> 00:58:30.820 Second. 00:58:30.820 --> 00:58:31.820 Second by Ms. Bradley. 00:58:31.820 --> 00:58:32.820 All those in favor say aye. 00:58:32.820 --> 00:58:33.820 Aye. 00:58:33.820 --> 00:58:35.820 Those opposed, same sign. 00:58:35.820 --> 00:58:36.820 Thank you, everybody. 00:58:36.820 --> 00:58:37.820 Thank you.