WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:14.920 We are live, so let's get started with the meeting of the Administration and Legal Affairs Committee, Wednesday, September 9, 2025, 2026, how about, of 2.0, prayer, anybody like to do, Steve? 00:00:15.600 --> 00:00:16.180 All right, thank you. 00:00:16.580 --> 00:00:20.920 Mary, Father, we thank you for this, Davey, thank you for each of the individuals that are here this evening. 00:00:21.300 --> 00:00:29.300 We just, I said you would have this meeting go smoothly, help us to wisely do the work of our county, 00:00:29.300 --> 00:00:31.920 and thank you for each one present for Jesus' name. 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:33.320 Thanks. 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:34.700 All right. 00:00:34.820 --> 00:00:35.540 3.0. 00:00:35.680 --> 00:00:36.420 Fugle agenda. 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:39.120 Do you have a full? 00:00:39.620 --> 00:00:41.880 Mr. Bollett, second. 00:00:42.500 --> 00:00:42.700 All right. 00:00:42.720 --> 00:00:43.760 All those in favor, say aye. 00:00:43.940 --> 00:00:44.240 Aye. 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:45.460 I'm your first chancellor. 00:00:45.980 --> 00:00:46.800 Yeah, there you go. 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:49.180 You guys can all move. 00:00:49.180 --> 00:00:50.100 Everyone do. 00:00:51.220 --> 00:00:52.160 4.0. 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:54.580 Approval meeting minutes from August 12th. 00:00:54.580 --> 00:00:55.420 1.6. 00:00:55.500 --> 00:00:56.060 8.3. 00:00:56.340 --> 00:00:56.580 Second. 00:00:56.800 --> 00:00:57.300 And a second. 00:00:58.100 --> 00:00:59.260 All those in favor, say aye. 00:00:59.300 --> 00:01:10.760 Okay. 5.02 planes. I've got a total of $92,547.39. What's the question? 00:01:11.080 --> 00:01:14.340 I just have one question. I have a question for Andrew. 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:14.820 Yes. 00:01:14.820 --> 00:01:20.780 $17.95 for business appraisal in your... 00:01:20.780 --> 00:01:46.880 Yep. So the mall for where Joint Fabrics is and all that. So they filed a case to PTAB. So Freeport split, we split on appraisal because usually when it's commercial like that, and obviously a large mall and stuff like that, 00:01:46.880 --> 00:02:03.340 the only way for us to really defend anything or whatever is to get an actual appraisal. So we don't get them very often. That's why you probably don't see them and stuff like that. That's only the second one that I've ever had to do since I've taken over. So that's what that is. 00:02:03.340 --> 00:02:04.440 I was just curious what it was. 00:02:04.440 --> 00:02:19.380 Yep, yep, and then we then made us been using the data and stuff like that to revalue commercial and different things like that. So then, obviously, we share that data and stuff like that. So then we split the cost. 00:02:21.690 --> 00:02:22.470 Thank you. 00:02:22.710 --> 00:02:23.170 You're welcome. 00:02:23.170 --> 00:02:25.930 You have a question. 00:02:25.930 --> 00:02:34.690 Got the budget or the bills here for $92,147 and 39 cents. 00:02:34.690 --> 00:02:40.430 I will second that. 00:02:40.430 --> 00:02:43.550 All those in favor say aye. 00:02:46.610 --> 00:02:49.710 Let's go to the 6.0, all the comments. 00:02:50.170 --> 00:02:55.110 And let's jump down to 7.1, College President. 00:02:55.110 --> 00:03:19.570 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So regarding claims, my office specifically, 1% total you just read was me. $960 of that actually was reimbursement for me to attend CIC, which is our financial software, their workshop didn't come on my budget specifically, came on with my next day software budget was really eye opening. 00:03:19.570 --> 00:03:48.750 I think that we are due for some long overdue definitely good improvements to our financial software which I hope not the next year maybe the year after that will probably make the audit a lot smoother and it will be a lot more user friendly for all of our users throughout the county so I think it was really worth my time to go to Wichita, Kansas so yeah so that's where my expense was in terms of claims if you all can 00:03:48.750 --> 00:03:51.510 I need to refresh your memory about their report that I sent. 00:03:51.910 --> 00:03:53.290 I think I sent it Sunday. 00:03:56.090 --> 00:03:58.130 Again, no surprises, really. 00:03:58.490 --> 00:03:59.770 A very quiet month. 00:03:59.990 --> 00:04:03.750 Overall, funds were down by 3.5%. 00:04:03.750 --> 00:04:06.710 Again, if you went by a monthly average, we'd be looking at eight. 00:04:07.410 --> 00:04:11.010 And that's in a month with a very, very small property tax distribution. 00:04:11.010 --> 00:04:14.970 So I think we're, you know, the ship is steady. 00:04:15.630 --> 00:04:17.150 I have a better way to describe it. 00:04:17.150 --> 00:04:47.130 No major ups or downs. The tax receipts, property tax, and I'm sorry, sales tax and income taxes were down slightly, but I expect this month those can go back up. If anything, this last year has taught us it's really now, but always we seem to be staying ahead. We're $700,000 ahead of where we were at this time last year, so I don't really look at any month that's down that much to really seem to be indicative of any kind of 00:04:47.150 --> 00:04:54.050 problem. So if you look on the investments page, only two things matured in August, but it was almost 00:04:54.050 --> 00:05:01.770 $5,000 in interest, so we'll take it. We have another $13 million invested. We can do a little 00:05:01.770 --> 00:05:07.030 more this month because the second property tax distribution, third property tax distribution 00:05:07.030 --> 00:05:15.650 is tomorrow. So unless you have any questions about what you see on here, I feel kind of like 00:05:15.650 --> 00:05:20.590 a broken record every month. There's nothing, I guess, no news, good news. Really? So, yeah. 00:05:21.590 --> 00:05:30.170 Yeah. So, the property tax distribution tomorrow is pretty substantial on the counties, looking 00:05:30.170 --> 00:05:36.710 to get about $3 million, a little over that. So, the way that the schedule landed this year 00:05:36.710 --> 00:05:42.630 compared to our due dates, I had to schedule the distribution with funds we collected right 00:05:42.630 --> 00:05:47.650 up until the due date. So since that distribution amount, which will come out tomorrow, I've already 00:05:47.650 --> 00:05:53.330 collected another $6 million. So the next distribution is looking to be a pretty decent one as well. 00:05:53.330 --> 00:06:03.070 So we are, as a county, overall, 86.6% collected. Great. That's about where we are this time of 00:06:03.070 --> 00:06:08.990 year. There's a little about a half million yet to be collected. So if anybody has any questions 00:06:08.990 --> 00:06:09.990 and Facts. 00:06:09.990 --> 00:06:13.990 So like I'm racing through. 00:06:13.990 --> 00:06:14.990 Oh, you're fine. 00:06:14.990 --> 00:06:19.990 I didn't see anybody asking questions here, so we'll keep going. 00:06:19.990 --> 00:06:20.990 Thank you very much. 00:06:20.990 --> 00:06:21.990 7.2, Connie Courage. 00:06:21.990 --> 00:06:23.990 Thank you, Chairman. 00:06:23.990 --> 00:06:28.990 Good news, there's a lot of people applying for marriage licenses in the county. 00:06:28.990 --> 00:06:29.990 Yay! 00:06:29.990 --> 00:06:36.990 We have, they fill, they sign on a tablet, so it transfers automatically, and we did have 00:06:36.990 --> 00:06:49.450 had a new tablet ordered already, and the one we had did go down, and so we did get a new one that was out of our contingency fund, so thank you to Mike and Nate for helping get that tablet up and going for us. 00:06:50.550 --> 00:06:53.950 Also, thank you to Nate for the Department of Revenue. 00:06:54.130 --> 00:07:00.570 You'll see in the report I submit, it shows the funds that go to the state that is collected as well as the county. 00:07:01.270 --> 00:07:03.370 They did a switchover with their URL. 00:07:04.050 --> 00:07:05.530 Nate was very helpful with that. 00:07:05.530 --> 00:07:13.090 a little bit of hiccups still on the state side yesterday morning and today so the state is working 00:07:13.090 --> 00:07:22.670 through that and we're trying to work through that with them as well. Elections last Tuesday this Tuesday 00:07:22.670 --> 00:07:28.530 and I'm guessing for many Tuesdays moving forward having calls with the attorney general's office 00:07:28.530 --> 00:07:35.510 regarding vote by mail with the postal service a lot of questions not a lot of answers at this time 00:07:35.510 --> 00:07:41.970 as far as how our office is proceeding, as well as many offices, vote by mail will proceed 00:07:41.970 --> 00:07:48.590 as normal. There may be added expenses with having to get new envelopes to comply with the 00:07:48.590 --> 00:07:54.790 postal service. So you may see some additional expenses. I know some counties have concerns 00:07:54.790 --> 00:07:59.490 about that with their budget. I think we're in good shape. If there's concerns, I'll bring 00:07:59.490 --> 00:08:29.470 to the Canadian. The write-in deadline was last Thursday. We didn't receive some in the mail the next day, so those were invalid. So we are ballot-proofing and hope to have a specimen ballot available soon because the UOCAVA, which is military overseas, those have to be sent out September 18th and vote by mail the first day those can go out as well as early voting is September 21st. 00:08:29.490 --> 00:09:00.960 and I think last month I talked about the permanent vote by mail cards we have to send out just some numbers so far we're still receiving them back so these numbers are going to go up we have 2,788 people signed up for permanent vote by mail and 142 people that have signed up for a single vote by mail so that's just for this election we will have another election judge class and I talked 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:32.790 talked about we had the larger classes at Highland. Some people were not able to attend. So we will have an election judge class next Wednesday and Thursday located here. As far as 2027 election, reached out to the school officials to let them know school board will be on the ballot to let people know. And I've been communicating with the local election authorities, helping them work through the election process as people are circulating petitions and asking them questions. 00:09:32.810 --> 00:09:36.540 Any questions? 00:09:36.540 --> 00:09:37.540 Any questions? 00:09:37.540 --> 00:09:42.960 Just a comment, really. 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:47.540 This isn't about our county, but a friend of mine in Southern Illinois, he hasn't had children 00:09:47.540 --> 00:09:50.960 in his house for 10 years. 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:58.420 And this past week, he got five permanent vote by mail statements at his house. 00:09:58.420 --> 00:09:59.980 He says, I could send every 00:09:59.980 --> 00:10:06.000 helps. He says, I could send every one of these back and vote by mail. How do we, how do you? 00:10:06.680 --> 00:10:14.280 So if I had someone that had that occur in Stevenson County, one, we would look at Alkin, we would 00:10:14.280 --> 00:10:20.900 remove them from our voter loan. If you are getting a piece of mail and no one's registered there, 00:10:20.900 --> 00:10:27.100 you shouldn't be accepting that mail. But that's just the application. So if we were to, let's say, 00:10:27.100 --> 00:10:33.500 if you want to break the law and you want to risk that, people go to jail. 00:10:35.160 --> 00:10:39.720 Well, I would work with our local law enforcement, but that's just the application. 00:10:40.420 --> 00:10:43.340 So when you apply for it, we are comparing your signature. 00:10:44.300 --> 00:10:47.860 So that signature we are comparing to when you register to vote. 00:10:48.420 --> 00:10:51.520 That signature doesn't match as well as that's just the application. 00:10:51.680 --> 00:10:56.660 When you fill out the ballot to send back, we also have Democrat and Republican. 00:10:57.100 --> 00:11:21.820 compare that signature on file too for the actual gold medal ballot and doesn't happen frequently but last year most of the time people just forget to sign but we did have a signature that did not like anything like the one we had on file so we sent them a letter she came in she was not very happy but we wanted to ensure election integrity against the stevenson county so that's what we do to do there thank you 00:11:21.820 --> 00:11:51.580 question. All right. Let's keep moving. Sorry. It's 7.3. So as we discussed in the beginning, we sent letters for my last township of the seven that I had to revalue. So six and a half of my townships are done. I am working on the village of Lena right now and going 00:11:51.580 --> 00:11:58.960 through some of the storm damage and things like that. I don't know if anybody caught it, but Governor 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:10.000 Pritzker did deem it as a disaster zone. So in that case and stuff like that, anything that somebody does 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:20.200 because of the storm damage and things like that, then they get, for better lack of terms, 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:27.880 or an exemption or for the four years and stuff like that that you normally won't qualify. 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:34.700 So if someone under normal circumstances would put a roof, siding, windows, things like that, that doesn't qualify. 00:12:34.700 --> 00:12:42.460 When they do it as a disaster zone, then you're replacing that because not because you want to, because you have to. 00:12:42.460 --> 00:13:11.800 so then that just it's it's a little more work for for our office and stuff like that to try to keep track of those things so those those people that were unfortunately in the way of that storm gets the benefit that they deserve because it's an extra cost for them so but other than that we are still ahead of schedule and things like that so I think the last time we had to do seven townships 00:13:11.800 --> 00:13:17.860 and some of them were, you know, the C&G and stuff like that. I think I only had like three of them done. 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:24.680 So we are definitely ahead of schedule. So that's all. It's all hands on deck in my office for that. 00:13:24.680 --> 00:13:25.120 So. 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:26.520 Okay. 00:13:30.540 --> 00:13:31.100 Good. 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:32.200 All right. 00:13:32.900 --> 00:13:33.620 Thank you. 00:13:34.180 --> 00:13:37.980 Thank you. 00:13:37.980 --> 00:13:43.940 So, so we did have court today for the nursing home phase. The next court appearance is October 00:13:43.940 --> 00:13:51.220 21st. I do not have any upcoming meetings, land bank meetings scheduled last week was in 00:13:51.220 --> 00:13:58.780 July, but those are kind of on an absentee basis. We are on track to have the audit presented 00:13:58.780 --> 00:14:07.100 to finance and the board this month. So that will be coming forward. Carrie will also be 00:14:07.100 --> 00:14:32.560 at Finance on Monday to discuss some of those liability renewals. So I'll have more information on that after Finance on Monday as well. I have been working with liability attorneys on a couple of things. We'll have a settlement coming to the board next week. Earlier this year, and I think I mentioned it back in January, February, we were randomly selected as a county for an IMRF audit. 00:14:32.560 --> 00:15:01.560 So, Brian being the authorized agent for the county, she is the only person they will talk to for correspondence through all of this, but it's been an ongoing undertaking since then in the last, I would say, month and a half or so. It's really ramped up. She's somewhat confident that it's nearing the end, but so she's done a lot of work with communicating to the department heads, getting the backup documentation. 00:15:02.560 --> 00:15:18.000 It's kind of like what you would have to do for an accelerated payment, but it's random names that they pull from random time periods and things, so it's been quite a lot of work, but she's done a lot of job on that, so let's do that. 00:15:19.220 --> 00:15:24.940 Other than that, continuing for animal control to get things ready for the monster. 00:15:29.030 --> 00:15:30.910 Getting that, keep going, getting going. 00:15:30.910 --> 00:15:44.650 question. Is that open house this weekend? Oh, we have not scheduled it yet. Oh, okay. I'm like, oh, I didn't know that. Okay. No, well, we'll let me out. Okay, great. 00:15:44.650 --> 00:16:00.650 I have a special invite for questions. I do have a question. As far as the nursing home work day, why was it pushed forward again? 00:16:00.910 --> 00:16:18.290 There was a mutual agreement with the attorneys for more time to respond to the interrogatories in the motion for, I'm going to say it wrong, motion for admission that was set. 00:16:20.700 --> 00:16:21.440 Okay, thank you. 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:31.770 We'll keep moving on to 7.5 IT manager. 00:16:33.790 --> 00:17:00.510 I don't know where it began. Busy month as usual. You don't know the health department is now completely moved out from the ninth floor. There was a lot of work on those projects. We had to go over and wire new offices because they were using some of the old exam rooms that FHN had. They had no internet connectivity, so we put in a new switch, ran some lines. I got fiberglass in my eye last Thursday. It was a great time. 00:17:00.510 --> 00:17:30.410 but we got it all hooked up and ready to go through RAC assisted with the final move yesterday this morning I built a site-to-site VPN because their stuff is actually housed on the server out of the highway department due to them being out there and Beth am I correct in saying they access your zoning program in some aspects so they use it for any reason really well I don't know that they are I just don't know 00:17:30.410 --> 00:17:32.730 why their stuff has never been with the health department. 00:17:32.890 --> 00:17:35.790 It's always been out on the highway, probably because that's where they were at. 00:17:36.710 --> 00:17:39.430 So that may be something we move over at some point. 00:17:39.510 --> 00:17:45.150 But for now, I built a site to site VPN so they can access their environmental health folders out there. 00:17:46.590 --> 00:17:49.930 So that project is hopefully done. 00:17:50.090 --> 00:17:51.950 I don't know if I have anybody else to move. 00:17:52.350 --> 00:17:53.090 I hope not. 00:17:53.090 --> 00:18:02.030 We've facilitated in probably 15 to 20 moves, I think, over the last month or so. 00:18:03.990 --> 00:18:18.270 With that, I did some projects for Jasmine with the state, and I figured that wasn't going to go smoothly, just on how they communicated, did what they asked, and we still had issues, and as far as I know, you've been good through this? 00:18:19.350 --> 00:18:20.350 We've had, yep. 00:18:20.350 --> 00:18:31.010 All right. So other than that, I leave for vacation next Friday. I may or may not come back. 00:18:31.010 --> 00:18:40.890 No, you won't. I'm heading to Tennessee, so I will not be back. I'll be gone like the 18th through the 28th or something like that. It's seven work days, essentially. 00:18:41.970 --> 00:18:48.630 Three Rock is ready to roll. I gave them marching orders, but I'm also going to put out an email to the county before I go. 00:18:48.630 --> 00:19:18.410 if it's like a ticket that's just preference or something that's not pressing I'm just going to tell them to hold that you know because sometimes there are tickets that people think are emergencies that really aren't so if it's just like adding a second monitor or something like that I'm just going to ask you know so we save on some finances that they just hold that until I get back so but other than that that's pretty much what's been going on obviously budget season which we'll talk about here soon but 00:19:18.630 --> 00:19:22.050 really got a whole lot that's changed. So, any questions? 00:19:23.850 --> 00:19:25.050 Even safe glasses. 00:19:26.230 --> 00:19:30.910 You know, that'd be a good thought. Luckily, I did find out that the health department has an eye washing station. 00:19:31.590 --> 00:19:32.890 Oh, I'm sorry. 00:19:35.550 --> 00:19:40.330 It's always something. After the fact, I was like, safety glasses probably would have been the play here. 00:19:40.830 --> 00:19:44.410 You don't know what you're getting into until you get up there. It's well insulated. 00:19:44.410 --> 00:19:57.180 Okay, well, let's go on to 8.1. 00:19:57.180 --> 00:20:04.540 8.1, the approval of the proposed 27 budgets will start the administration services. 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:19.140 So with my contract pending, there's nothing plugged in full of my salary. The other salaries show the 3.5% 00:20:19.140 --> 00:20:47.610 pretty much policy. Everything else has stayed pretty much the same. I left the countywide photocopy paper cost the same. The cost of that has gone up, but we've seen slight reductions continuing throughout the county with the paper usage, so I feel confident of that. 00:20:47.610 --> 00:21:11.550 through discussions on we have the five-year full copy contract where we biannually have overages not huge, but everyone did not previously budget for those because that was taken out of budgets to go to the countywide. 00:21:11.550 --> 00:21:13.230 And so we kind of talked and 00:21:13.230 --> 00:21:19.450 Oh, to ask you a question, didn't we prepay for over just and they're still billing us? Okay. 00:21:21.450 --> 00:21:38.770 So we talked about since adding wine in my budget just to cover those if we get them. Seemed like a place to put that so that it's paid through one place and not all of the partners. 00:21:38.770 --> 00:21:43.710 If we already prepaid for overages, why are we getting bills for overages? 00:21:43.710 --> 00:21:50.010 So we got a percentage overage and they were over that. 00:21:50.010 --> 00:22:08.750 I am tracking with them if certain departments did not maybe accurately report what they were using or if they're the culprit moving forward all the time or if it was just the time of year where one department had a huge, you know, mailing or something. 00:22:08.770 --> 00:22:13.110 I don't think that they had to do where there was a lot of copies to try and do it, but 00:22:13.110 --> 00:22:20.210 I think if I can, yeah, absolutely, the orange, I think if I'm correct, it pertains to color, 00:22:20.530 --> 00:22:25.670 mostly color, yes, so I think if we, just I think a little bit of education, I think we can 00:22:25.670 --> 00:22:33.270 not limit on our color copies, and it wasn't, it was a very small amount, and so I think there was 00:22:33.270 --> 00:22:40.590 some discussion of forcing it to each department, but it's such a small amount and unpredictable. 00:22:40.590 --> 00:22:47.910 So it didn't really make sense to put $12 in one department, $78, you know, this just made 00:22:47.910 --> 00:22:48.910 more sense. 00:22:48.910 --> 00:22:55.330 I was going to say, yeah, talk to the treasurer and that's kind of what we thought made the most 00:22:55.330 --> 00:22:56.330 sense. 00:22:56.330 --> 00:22:59.970 COE, I'm so Fields. 00:23:16.420 --> 00:23:17.440 I'm sorry. 00:23:17.500 --> 00:23:19.940 Okay. 00:23:21.320 --> 00:23:22.020 YOU WANT TO GET PAID AFTER YOUR REE. 00:23:22.020 --> 00:23:22.780 完成. 00:23:22.780 --> 00:23:25.420 KELLY BEAN IS THERE A DATE ON THE 00:23:25.420 --> 00:23:28.360 CANENDAR THAT YOUR CONTRACT IS BEING DISCUSSED? 00:23:28.360 --> 00:23:29.000 TONIGHT. 00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:29.840 OH, TONIGHT. 00:23:29.840 --> 00:23:30.840 AH! 00:23:30.840 --> 00:23:39.940 So, I mean, I don't know what the committee would like to do, if you want to hold it, or if you want to pass the finance, or hold it over, it's, yeah. 00:23:40.540 --> 00:23:40.780 Okay. 00:23:40.780 --> 00:23:42.320 So, where are we at? 00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:48.780 Say we put a 3% in there, or do we need to hold it over? 00:23:49.900 --> 00:23:51.260 Or do we need to hold it over? 00:23:52.060 --> 00:23:53.480 So, we have nothing with it. 00:23:54.160 --> 00:23:55.260 I think we need to hold it over. 00:23:56.120 --> 00:23:57.540 I feel we can discuss it. 00:24:00.840 --> 00:24:11.940 So do I make a motion to hold over this administrative budget until next month where we can fill in all 00:24:11.940 --> 00:24:13.240 the questions? 00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:15.300 I have a question. 00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:17.880 Why can't we do it? 00:24:19.100 --> 00:24:20.960 Because we don't have it on the agenda. 00:24:21.500 --> 00:24:27.300 I'd like to say, why can't we move that issue down under 9.2 and then approve it after we've 00:24:27.300 --> 00:24:28.080 had our discussion? 00:24:28.080 --> 00:24:35.020 and then we're not moving it over, we can move it under like 11.0, for example. 00:24:35.100 --> 00:24:37.260 Oh, yeah, 11.2 or whatever you want. 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:38.220 Yeah. 00:24:38.800 --> 00:24:39.980 Thought about that. 00:24:41.340 --> 00:24:48.000 But you kind of start and stop and then folks might have to sit here a little bit, maybe. 00:24:48.500 --> 00:24:51.580 Well, if we do anything as action, you're going to have to have it on anyway. 00:24:53.180 --> 00:24:53.660 Right. 00:24:54.220 --> 00:24:54.940 That's true. 00:24:54.940 --> 00:25:03.000 So, we can do that. We didn't do that at the agenda, though. I think we'll just move it to the next one. 00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:10.240 So, do we have a motion? 00:25:10.500 --> 00:25:11.100 I have a motion. 00:25:11.100 --> 00:25:11.120 I have a motion. 00:25:13.260 --> 00:25:14.460 The way it's on next one. 00:25:15.460 --> 00:25:19.060 Or a second. 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:20.860 Okay. All right. 00:25:20.860 --> 00:25:24.760 Yeah, I think that's fine for them. 00:25:24.900 --> 00:25:25.980 We can talk about it. 00:25:26.040 --> 00:25:27.180 We have time to think about it. 00:25:27.660 --> 00:25:30.900 We can finance too. 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:32.620 All right. 00:25:32.700 --> 00:25:33.920 All those in favor, say aye. 00:25:34.220 --> 00:25:34.580 Aye. 00:25:35.160 --> 00:25:35.720 Opposed? 00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:36.120 Aye. 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:38.960 Okay. 00:25:41.520 --> 00:25:43.860 Let's go to the IT budget. 00:25:43.860 --> 00:26:12.160 I don't remember exactly why we laid it over last month, although I think the whole is IT paying for it versus is the rest of the departments showing it was the discussion otherwise. 00:26:12.840 --> 00:26:20.840 Chairman, it didn't get laid over. It was actually passed. The finance, I think Mr. Fricke asked where to come back due to the storage for the state's attorney. 00:26:20.840 --> 00:26:21.840 Yes. 00:26:21.840 --> 00:26:23.840 So how that was going to come out of this budget. 00:26:23.840 --> 00:26:24.840 Yes. 00:26:24.840 --> 00:26:25.840 Is that correct? 00:26:25.840 --> 00:26:26.840 Yes. 00:26:26.840 --> 00:26:27.840 That was in the meeting minutes there. 00:26:27.840 --> 00:26:31.840 Well, I have volunteered to pay for that, but it will not come out of this budget. 00:26:31.840 --> 00:26:34.840 It's going to come out of capital improvements. 00:26:34.840 --> 00:26:35.840 Is that what it's called? 00:26:35.840 --> 00:26:36.840 Adrian. 00:26:36.840 --> 00:26:37.840 Yes. 00:26:37.840 --> 00:26:41.840 There's IT upgrades in there that I was going to use $5,000 out of that to pay for it. 00:26:41.840 --> 00:26:42.840 Okay. 00:26:42.840 --> 00:26:45.840 So it's technically not in this budget, but it's right there under IT upgrades. 00:26:45.840 --> 00:26:46.840 Yes. 00:26:46.840 --> 00:26:50.520 So that $60,000 that was not spent, that was going to be carried over. 00:26:50.840 --> 00:26:54.160 and they're going to try to do something offline or in the cloud or something. 00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:59.280 That will be on the cloud if this gets passed or, you know, if the company agrees. 00:26:59.560 --> 00:27:03.440 But at the end of the day, whether Carl pays for it or the sign, I'm still trying to fund money. 00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:10.540 So I think that's what soon as I can find the first one. 00:27:12.220 --> 00:27:19.060 I understand it's been resolved and I understand what Nate's trying to do there too, 00:27:19.060 --> 00:27:25.760 but I think it should really come out of that department's budget so that we know where that 00:27:25.760 --> 00:27:26.600 money's being said. 00:27:30.220 --> 00:27:32.300 I'm not going to stop the budget for that. 00:27:36.020 --> 00:27:40.480 You want it to reflect in my budget or state's attorney's problem? 00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:55.930 This was, it's not in the IT management system, I used it on this one, but it's in the cattle, okay, yes, okay 00:27:55.930 --> 00:28:01.270 Is there anything that's something we need to talk about in finance, huh? 00:28:02.550 --> 00:28:06.430 I think, I'm just going to put my head on the platter, right? 00:28:06.430 --> 00:28:16.270 Before I left the circuit, Clark, he was talking about all the department has moving some budget into the IT budget, so IT pays for IT banks. 00:28:17.130 --> 00:28:27.350 It sounds like that's no longer what is wanted, so I think the discussion needs to happen as far as I feel like we were moving one way, now we're wanting to go back. 00:28:27.850 --> 00:28:30.510 So I don't know what I'm supposed to do. 00:28:30.510 --> 00:28:40.510 So, I would love for the county board to kind of determine which way you want it, because if it's one way or the other, it shouldn't be a little bit of both. It gets too confused now. 00:28:41.230 --> 00:28:42.030 Thanks, Steve. 00:28:42.030 --> 00:28:43.730 Yes. 00:28:43.730 --> 00:29:09.250 So when we created the IT manager position and the IT budget, it was thought at that time that everyone was kind of doing their own thing, buying their own equipment, and no one knew what was going on, what was being replaced, what wasn't being replaced, what our entire inventory was, it should be on a replacement schedule. 00:29:09.250 --> 00:29:39.130 there and now we have Nate so it just we centralized everything just to make the purchasing more seamless in one place I will say the caveat to that is though is my budget is not paying for everybody's workstations per se some of that has come through grants some people pay it out of their own budget so it's still not fully I have oversight over now because it's usually 00:29:39.130 --> 00:29:54.170 runs through me in some way, but I usually send the invoices back to those departments for those PCs because I don't have, like, a county-wide budget for, I do for IT upgrades, but I've been using that for, like, a server level or, like, you know, infrastructure. 00:29:54.170 --> 00:29:54.810 Sure. 00:29:54.810 --> 00:30:16.320 Sure. So they do come to me and I have reports now and I can tell what's old. They'll come to me and say, well, machines need replaced. So we do have a better grasp of that. But again, if, and I'm open to that, like if eventually they want all the purchases and payments to come to me for those, we would just have to make sure that we're accounting for that. 00:30:16.320 --> 00:30:30.700 Right. But right now, the process has worked. I mean, as far as that goes, they come to me and I order it, send them the infos for that. But again, if we're trying to go one way or the other, we kind of got to fit the lane. 00:30:30.700 --> 00:30:34.700 You know, it's too confusing for everybody. 00:30:34.700 --> 00:31:04.280 but it also makes sense on those things to have that department paid for it but I remember all that conversation made a lot of sense it still does so especially when it's the one big general fund pot of money it doesn't make sense for the charger and right to have these small maybe line items when we can just centralize it I think that was the goal to begin with and 00:31:04.700 --> 00:31:18.820 Great. I understand, like, a separate fund could alleviate some distress for the general fund if they're making big purchases, IT purchases, but I also remember, like, 3% of everybody's budget going into the IT salary. 00:31:28.820 --> 00:31:29.980 Am I joking? 00:31:34.700 --> 00:31:57.940 So, reeling in here, Larry, it looks like we've got three and a half percent for an eight. 00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:02.900 We had that buyout payment, which helped out. 00:32:04.700 --> 00:32:15.920 So we're actually going down by 8%, I think we've got a pretty good budget there, so I think I'm going to make a motion to approve this. 00:32:16.120 --> 00:32:19.400 This is already approved. You're talking about IT, correct? 00:32:19.560 --> 00:32:21.340 Yeah, it was already approved. 00:32:21.340 --> 00:32:22.340 It was just that bad. 00:32:23.420 --> 00:32:26.520 Once you're going to change something, you don't need to approve it again. 00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:26.840 Okay. 00:32:28.280 --> 00:32:31.840 Okay, we're going to get there. 00:32:33.780 --> 00:32:34.920 We're going to keep moving here. 00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:42.680 9.1, approval of resolution of authorizing acquisition of all tax certificates for the tax year 2025. 00:32:43.300 --> 00:32:47.600 Yeah, sorry about that long resolution name, but I really needed it to be descriptive. 00:32:48.120 --> 00:33:00.920 So if you recall last month, I mentioned some of the more painful parts of the changes that the legislature made to fix the broken property tax code, which then it turns out to 20 other things. 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:27.700 so this is a big piece of that instead of having the tax sale that we traditionally do where tax buyers come in bid against each other for low rate of interest to then win the opportunity to buy the taxes and then you know half of the parcels go to the county as trustee anyway because they don't want and this the new law gives us the option us the county board gives you the option at my request. 00:33:27.700 --> 00:33:57.680 so that's kind of the frame of this to rather than holding that typical traditional tax sale we just allow the county as trustee to purchase all of those no money changes hands it's just instead of half half of the parcels coming to the county all of them do several benefits for that one the rate of interest that the affected taxpayer would pay is dramatically reduced the taxpayers can put up to nine percent 00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:03.380 and all indications now are that they will because this negatively impacts them statewide. 00:34:03.700 --> 00:34:13.340 That's 9% every six months. Allowing them to come to the county as trustee, the rate of interest is 0.75% 00:34:13.340 --> 00:34:19.500 per month. So it's now upfront. So if someone redeems in two months, they've paid 1.5%. 00:34:19.500 --> 00:34:24.620 If they redeem a year later to the county, to the trustee agent and gets the interest, it's 9% 00:34:24.620 --> 00:34:54.600 or to the taxpayer, it's eight. So this is the most friendly option for those effective who are unable for whatever reason to pay their taxes. This hurts them less, which is one of the major reasons I'm inclined to think that this makes more sense. Administratively, we would probably need to hire at least 1.5 FTE to accomplish the new duties that the company having a tax sale will be 00:34:54.600 --> 00:35:01.780 We always have all the port notifications, all the reminders, all the mailings, port appearances, state's attorney. 00:35:03.020 --> 00:35:08.940 The estimate on a state's attorney for the county bar size was one half FTE, state's attorney time to do that. 00:35:09.660 --> 00:35:10.680 Additional expense. 00:35:11.140 --> 00:35:15.300 And then again, the taxpayers pay more interest too. 00:35:15.300 --> 00:35:22.760 So there's really nobody wins in the scenario of doing it the way we've always done it except the taxpayer. 00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:52.740 and I'm you know they've been a necessary component previously to make our system work they're not any longer and there's some other more dramatic changes coming that have will affect our budget in terms of what the state has now made the county I think I discussed this last time we're responsible for because the state failed to act for three years so I'm really not further inclined to help 00:35:52.760 --> 00:36:15.260 them anymore than we are there. They have sued us. They are gouging the taxpayer. They're coming after us for additional funds. And I feel like we did it the other way. We're basically rewarding them further to continue those same activities. But so the flip side of I think those are positives of why we should do it. 00:36:15.260 --> 00:36:25.980 regarding how it looks to the tax districts because when we hold the tax sale, there is money that is gained from the tax sale. 00:36:25.980 --> 00:36:39.040 It is roughly half to seven-tenths of one percent, so it's not huge. The bigger the taxing body, the bigger the amount of money, but percentage-wise, it's relatively small. 00:36:39.040 --> 00:37:00.600 So because 90 to 95 percent of parcels are redeemed, people do pay those taxes that that money will come back to them. It just won't come back in November. So we'll be collecting it throughout the year as they redeem through the county clerk's office. It gets held in an interest bearing account, and then it will go out with my first distribution. 00:37:00.600 --> 00:37:22.440 and to kind of lessen the blow a little bit I'm probably going to now have a May distribution so that the entities that have the tax year this July to June will be able to still capture that in that same budget year it'll just be at the end rather than at the beginning so I don't think there really is any pain 00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:45.200 to this plan, but there are a lot of downsides to not doing it, I think. And so it does mention, and I did attach the referenced statutory language. I did not include the list because I do have to give you a list of parcels that you have to basically say yes, and you give it back to me. 00:37:45.200 --> 00:37:50.880 But I didn't want to present that list right now because it literally changed right before I came up here. 00:37:51.020 --> 00:38:00.260 So I was going to wait to just before the agenda is posted for the actual board meeting to give you as concise of a long list as I possibly can. 00:38:00.260 --> 00:38:08.380 But you do. And this is something I do. I'm hoping I'm asking you as a board to approve it that I will do every year. 00:38:08.380 --> 00:38:27.840 So, and because this is something, if we, for whatever reason, I can't imagine it, but, you know, legislation may change again, that this is not something we have to do every year. We can make a decision to take a different path every year. So, we're not stuck in any one. Yeah, but I don't, I don't see a downside to doing this. 00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:31.520 So, more to come on these other pieces of later. 00:38:32.220 --> 00:38:32.480 Yeah. 00:38:33.060 --> 00:38:34.160 So, do you want that? 00:38:34.160 --> 00:38:40.350 This is the easy part. There is one. This is the easy part. 00:38:44.350 --> 00:38:46.950 Do you want to make a motion? 00:38:47.950 --> 00:38:57.870 Make a motion to approve the resolution authorizing acquisition of all tax certificates for the tax year 2025, payable in 2026. 00:38:57.870 --> 00:39:00.530 I think there's a bit of a second. 00:39:02.530 --> 00:39:09.450 Just a clarification, last month, and I forget if it was this or some other component, you 00:39:09.450 --> 00:39:15.650 mentioned the, because it's kind of a transition step, the first year is going to be the rough 00:39:15.650 --> 00:39:17.730 one, and then it will kind of, is this the? 00:39:17.770 --> 00:39:21.510 Not this, that's the hard one, that's the one with all the dollar signs of 10. 00:39:21.710 --> 00:39:23.050 I thought so, but I wanted to clarify. 00:39:23.190 --> 00:39:23.930 This is a win. 00:39:23.930 --> 00:39:25.290 Right here. 00:39:25.650 --> 00:39:26.650 It's a great part. 00:39:26.650 --> 00:39:53.430 So the other one is, has some, I'm still compiling that data right now because we're getting to the point where taxpayers may potentially want to purchase subsequent taxes. So I have to add that, those dollars back into our estimate because we are, my association is submitting hundreds of millions of dollars across the state. This will cost counties if the legislature doesn't change course. So it's not good. 00:39:53.430 --> 00:39:53.480 It's not good. 00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:58.200 It's a state mandate kind of thing. 00:39:58.440 --> 00:39:59.920 It's exactly what it is. 00:40:01.180 --> 00:40:02.740 If we broke it, you fix it. 00:40:02.940 --> 00:40:04.380 We pay for it. 00:40:04.500 --> 00:40:05.220 I'll be quiet. 00:40:06.740 --> 00:40:08.420 Yeah, I think this is a good thing. 00:40:08.940 --> 00:40:13.880 And it sounds like it's good for those that don't have to be blind on things. 00:40:16.080 --> 00:40:19.060 With that, any more comments? 00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:20.300 Mr. Chair? 00:40:20.600 --> 00:40:20.900 Yes. 00:40:20.900 --> 00:40:22.380 Who drafted this? 00:40:23.380 --> 00:40:27.980 The trustee agent attorney helped me draft it. 00:40:28.100 --> 00:40:28.940 It's his language. 00:40:29.080 --> 00:40:31.820 I just inserted more appropriate language for our time. 00:40:32.120 --> 00:40:33.280 Has it been reviewed? 00:40:33.740 --> 00:40:35.260 The state's attorney has seen it, yes. 00:40:36.180 --> 00:40:42.100 I just want to make sure we're not going to be part of a class section lawsuit based on this resolution. 00:40:43.140 --> 00:40:49.500 I don't believe so because the smartest real estate attorney, smartest real estate attorney in the state is behind it. 00:40:49.500 --> 00:40:58.600 Good question. Thank you. All right. All those in favor, say aye. All right. Thank you. 00:40:58.600 --> 00:40:59.600 Thank you. Thank you. 00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:07.360 Right. 9.2, we have a county board and a committee meeting calendar for 20.7. 00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:15.260 Well, it's just a couple of things we ended up around because of holidays, right, Jasmin? 00:41:17.640 --> 00:41:19.800 I think it was February was one of them. 00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:21.900 I think it started from January. 00:41:22.860 --> 00:41:48.620 January, the finance meeting, the 15th, the 15th, the 15th, the finance meeting moved to Thursday, in the evening, through the thinking, and the next difference is July. 00:41:52.860 --> 00:42:01.930 Planning and Development moved to that Tuesday, June, Wednesday. 00:42:01.930 --> 00:42:16.090 And then September, Planning and Development moved to that Tuesday during the Labor Day. 00:42:18.150 --> 00:42:23.310 October, Planning and Development moved to that Tuesday during the Labor Day. 00:42:23.310 --> 00:42:27.850 and then November is just a little bit different with the budget. 00:42:29.370 --> 00:42:30.750 And November is always fine. 00:42:37.250 --> 00:42:38.330 Yeah, that's the hours. 00:42:38.330 --> 00:42:48.510 Those dates for the budget presentation approval, that was just what I thought. 00:42:48.890 --> 00:42:51.270 If you guys want to change it, you can change it. 00:42:53.310 --> 00:42:56.090 Because it's only nine business days. 00:42:56.490 --> 00:42:57.870 Right, because of the holidays. 00:42:58.750 --> 00:43:00.150 Or the holidays, if you were to say. 00:43:00.670 --> 00:43:04.670 So, I think it's just days, calendar days. 00:43:04.670 --> 00:43:06.810 It's just calendar days? 00:43:06.930 --> 00:43:07.110 Okay. 00:43:08.690 --> 00:43:11.950 Let's be the most likely calendar for the long time. 00:43:13.430 --> 00:43:16.950 Well, on the 29th would be a full calendar day, anyone. 00:43:18.390 --> 00:43:21.570 So, there's a two subsequent times a day. 00:43:21.570 --> 00:43:32.110 Okay, I think it looks fine. 00:43:32.210 --> 00:43:33.950 I'm going to make a motion to approve it. 00:43:34.870 --> 00:43:35.470 Second. 00:43:35.930 --> 00:43:39.490 Okay, I've got a second for our conversation. 00:43:40.690 --> 00:43:42.290 All of them in favor, say aye. 00:43:42.670 --> 00:43:42.970 Aye. 00:43:43.870 --> 00:43:44.170 Second. 00:43:45.550 --> 00:43:46.410 All right. 00:43:47.170 --> 00:43:48.910 Comments from committee members. 00:43:48.910 --> 00:43:54.690 Before we go into an executive session? 00:43:54.690 --> 00:43:54.850 I'm sure. 00:43:55.630 --> 00:43:57.310 I've seen your signature a lot. 00:43:57.450 --> 00:43:58.610 I sort of know it by heart. 00:43:59.610 --> 00:44:00.230 All right. 00:44:01.350 --> 00:44:04.230 But I wanted a motion to go into an executive session. 00:44:05.230 --> 00:44:06.610 So Mr. Maduro, 00:44:07.090 --> 00:44:08.330 the same thing. 00:44:08.990 --> 00:44:12.210 All those in favor say aye. 00:44:12.210 --> 00:44:12.810 Aye. 00:44:12.810 --> 00:44:13.050 Aye. 00:44:15.050 --> 00:44:17.490 We're going to go into an executive session. 00:44:17.490 --> 00:44:19.970 Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.