WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:16.900 Mr. Jogerst, any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries. 4.0 review and approval of meeting minutes from April 13th, 2026. Do I have a motion to approve? 00:00:16.900 --> 00:00:17.580 So I'm okay. 00:00:18.580 --> 00:00:28.380 Mr. Didden, second by Cindy. Any discussion on meeting minutes? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries. 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:42.680 5.0 approve and approve and approval. Okay. Approval of claims, tooling and amount of cash requirements and manuals, $971,124.50. Motion to approve. 00:00:45.010 --> 00:00:45.690 Move to approve. 00:00:45.830 --> 00:00:49.910 By Mr. Blank, do I have a second? By Mr. Didn't. Any discussion on claims? 00:00:51.750 --> 00:00:53.690 Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. 00:00:53.970 --> 00:00:54.270 Aye. 00:00:54.270 --> 00:00:56.830 Opposed? Motion carries. 00:00:56.830 --> 00:01:11.300 6.0. Public comment. State your name. Okay, thank you. Again, thank you very much for allowing me the 00:01:11.300 --> 00:01:16.880 opportunity to speak at the board meeting and this one as well as the last ones and thank you for your 00:01:16.880 --> 00:01:21.640 service. My name is Teresa Smith. I'm a consulting dietician at the nursing facility that is owned by 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:26.500 Stevenson County. I have provided high quality consulting services in the county facility since 00:01:26.500 --> 00:01:55.660 1996 for 30 years. Initially, my contracts were the food service company. In the past few years, my contract was with Stevenson County. In April, I took the opportunity to speak to the full board to make the board members aware of outstanding invoices that have not been paid by the county. At that time, I indicated invoices dating back as far back as December 2024 have not been paid with a total amount of $8,450.22. I have received no updates to share on the payment of these invoices. 00:01:55.660 --> 00:02:05.960 Early in 2025, when invoices were not being paid, I was told by the county treasurer that the state statute mandates that all debts were paid by the county's. 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:12.200 In October, I became aware of the sale of the building not happening in September. Invoices could not be paid. 00:02:12.700 --> 00:02:18.700 In November, I was told there was no ruling in the judge regarding the potential sale. Invoices could not be paid. 00:02:19.060 --> 00:02:25.240 In December, I was told the judge ruled the sale must go to the referendum with no timeline and payout of the invoices. 00:02:25.660 --> 00:02:31.340 could be up to two years. In February, I was told the county was holding money to pay for a potential 00:02:31.340 --> 00:02:37.100 fine that the attorneys were hoping to wait. Also was told by others in the community that invoices 00:02:37.100 --> 00:02:42.660 had been paid. In March, I was told the county was still holding the money for the potential fine, 00:02:42.660 --> 00:02:48.120 but I could offer a settlement. A settlement was offered with a March 31st deadline, but as far as 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:53.800 I know, it was not shared with the finance committee as the board. In April, I was again told the county 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:59.280 was reserving funds for a potential fine and my invoices could not be paid. According to the 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:08.060 treasurer's report dated April 2026, it reflects that there is $56,424.51 in the nursing home fund, 00:03:08.440 --> 00:03:15.030 yet my invoices are not being paid. According to the approval of payment prioritization and outstanding 00:03:15.030 --> 00:03:19.810 vendor claims for the nursing center, which all of you I'm sure are aware of, went to the finance 00:03:19.810 --> 00:03:25.170 Committee. In March, my invoices, along with several other vendors, are scheduled for, quote, 00:03:25.650 --> 00:03:31.910 pay next, question mark, end quote. I am not aware of the prioritization practices of the county regarding 00:03:31.910 --> 00:03:37.150 the payment of these invoices. Is anybody in this room aware? As members of the Finance Committee, 00:03:38.050 --> 00:03:41.850 I feel this needs to be public information, and at the very least, all of you should know what 00:03:41.850 --> 00:03:47.590 prioritize. The public should be given full disclosure of the prioritization process. Small 00:03:47.590 --> 00:03:51.770 All local vendors should be on the top of the list, but it does not appear that they are. 00:03:51.770 --> 00:03:54.770 Again, thank you for your time and consideration. 00:03:54.770 --> 00:04:00.580 Thank you. 00:04:00.580 --> 00:04:06.530 Good evening. 00:04:06.530 --> 00:04:08.030 I'm Lynette Williams. 00:04:08.030 --> 00:04:11.190 I represent Common Core District E. 00:04:11.190 --> 00:04:16.690 I'm here to give support to Theresa Smith, who is a nursing center dietician. 00:04:16.690 --> 00:04:21.950 She contacted a number of board members with her situation being owed money from the nursing 00:04:21.950 --> 00:04:23.250 center. 00:04:23.250 --> 00:04:28.550 She gave public comment in April at the nursing center meeting last week and at this meeting. 00:04:29.210 --> 00:04:36.570 I, along with my fellow board members, gave me authority to pay outstanding debts to the finance director and to the county administrator. 00:04:36.570 --> 00:04:53.310 They have paid many of the outstanding bills, but $140,539.65 still remains to outstanding vendors, including the amount owed to Ms. Smith. 00:04:54.030 --> 00:04:57.990 In addition, many Stevenson County funds are owed reimbursement. 00:04:58.330 --> 00:05:03.570 These obligations were created in good faith that they would be paid in a timely manner. 00:05:04.130 --> 00:05:05.730 Many are over a year old. 00:05:05.730 --> 00:05:10.730 I feel the board can no longer wait on paying these outstanding debts 00:05:10.730 --> 00:05:13.690 I do have thoughts on how this might be done 00:05:13.690 --> 00:05:18.370 If any member wishes to contact me, I'd be happy to have an open discussion on it 00:05:18.370 --> 00:05:19.130 Thank you 00:05:19.130 --> 00:05:24.970 All right, moving on to reports to committee 00:05:24.970 --> 00:05:27.510 7.1 is Diamond Brothers 00:05:27.510 --> 00:05:29.970 One of my notes should be here in June 00:05:29.970 --> 00:05:31.790 Yes, by both 00:05:31.790 --> 00:05:32.370 By both 00:05:32.370 --> 00:05:33.770 So I'm giving her a report 00:05:33.770 --> 00:05:37.050 All right, so 7.2 00:05:37.050 --> 00:05:47.330 on your mission. Thank you. I'll just briefly go over some highlights on the report from earlier. I did attend 00:05:47.330 --> 00:05:55.010 a land bank meeting today over the lunch hour remotely. One of the properties that was on their 00:05:55.010 --> 00:06:01.570 last meeting fell through, so they had to have a new meeting for a different sale to go through on 00:06:01.570 --> 00:06:11.230 Sikich, our auditing firm was on site April 28th, April 30th, and May 6th. We're working on wrapping up the 00:06:11.230 --> 00:06:20.150 final things with that, and I'm sure Adrienne had that during her report. Our Step Up Stevenson County 00:06:20.150 --> 00:06:28.690 first annual step program for the county ended on May 10th. I will say I saw more people out moving 00:06:28.690 --> 00:06:35.450 out of my window looking out than I think I've ever seen in downtown walking around so it definitely got 00:06:35.450 --> 00:06:46.530 people out moving. The Monday after the step program ended I ran into I went out to try and keep up the 00:06:46.530 --> 00:06:51.950 habit and ran into three people from the county that I normally don't see walking but we're still 00:06:51.950 --> 00:06:57.070 out there trying to get some movement in so I'm hoping that is starting to encourage some healthy 00:06:57.070 --> 00:07:04.930 habits for the departments, for the employees that'll hopefully trickle down into some savings 00:07:04.930 --> 00:07:09.490 with our health insurance, which was kind of the goal with us is to have healthier employees. 00:07:09.910 --> 00:07:18.150 That being said, I have all of the names of the people eligible for the random drawing for two $100 prizes. 00:07:19.430 --> 00:07:23.730 So, Ms. Baker, let us, oh, you got, there we have one. 00:07:23.730 --> 00:07:24.250 Okay. 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:31.800 Oh gosh, I'm in Helms 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:40.060 Who was one of our top stopgaters 00:07:40.060 --> 00:07:43.720 Jen Miller from the Circuit Clerk's Office 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:46.720 and Casey Wooden, who I believe is from the Health Department 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:49.980 We'll get those out to that 00:07:49.980 --> 00:07:53.800 The top stepper in the program was Sally Brashe 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:56.760 from the County Clerk's Office 00:07:56.760 --> 00:08:06.520 and the top stepping team was the public defenders too. So a little update with that. Kind of tagging along 00:08:06.520 --> 00:08:17.240 with the wellness. In 2026, we had 78 participants. In 2025, we had 75. But we also have a significantly 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:24.880 less employee pool this year without having all of the nursing home employees on our panel. So I think 00:08:24.880 --> 00:08:49.140 I think that was a definite good increase in participation. Hopefully, we'll get those numbers to continue to go up. We did limit it to two sites this year, and I think that is what we will do again next year because we cut the cost quite a bit, I think, two sites as opposed to the three or four. So some changes moving forward with that. 00:08:49.140 --> 00:09:15.900 attended a rise and shine at Highland. They presented to the attendees their plan on repurposing the Y and where they have the daycare facilities, kind of what they envision for moving forward with their sportsplex for the college and kind of how they're working with the Y to make sure all the needs are met. 00:09:15.900 --> 00:09:42.420 Ms. Winger, Ms. Whipple and I put together the proposed updates for the solid waste plan that's presented at P&D, and we'll be submitting that for feedback from the state so that we have something to present for approval to the board, hopefully in the next month or two. And next creative report partnership meeting is Wednesday. 00:09:42.420 --> 00:09:56.820 Any questions for the County Minister? Did anybody talk about how they're going to fund improvements 00:09:56.820 --> 00:09:57.960 out of the college? 00:09:59.460 --> 00:10:14.080 So, the college is looking into grants. They did talk about not trying to raise tuition or anything out there. They were trying to lift the grant funds. 00:10:15.300 --> 00:10:29.080 The original proposal, and I don't remember the exact number that they gave, with everything that they were hoping to get, more of the wants than the needs, they had to revisit and redraw plans and cut the cost about that. 00:10:29.460 --> 00:10:57.500 So, okay. Any additional questions? All right. 7.3, Finance Director. Okay. I will just touch on this report really quickly. This is just a summary of the large 100 and some odd page report that I sent out on a monthly basis. Really nothing earth shattering to report. 00:10:57.500 --> 00:11:27.140 You'll see in youth diversion, which is fund 27, that 99.6 of the expenses have been incurred. So that is because those entities, those checks were cut. So that's kind of something to pay attention to. You'll see a big uptick in a lot of these funds in July. That's when the first real estate tax distribution will be. And that's the major source of revenues for a lot of these funds. So I don't need to go through that little thing unless anyone has any questions. 00:11:27.500 --> 00:11:59.240 Okay. So as the administrator mentioned, the audit team was on site three different days since our last meeting. Every year there is basically an area of focus. And this year is the ETSB 911 department. So they're kind of having their own individual audit this year. So there's been a lot of extra requirements and questions for them. So I just want to kind of give a shout out to Robin Stobel because she's been really responsive and fast with getting information. 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:06.600 to them. So the nursing center did supply some of their information to the auditors, but it was 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:13.180 incomplete. So Lindsay Fish from Sickage reached out with a complete list of what was missing. We're still 00:12:13.180 --> 00:12:19.000 waiting to hear back on those outstanding items. So that's kind of where we stand right now. 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:26.600 Questions and backup paperwork requests are kind of trickling in based upon, you know, the time that 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:57.230 they can dedicate to our audit. So we're just addressing those as they come. I did want to mention the fund listing that I passed out before the meeting started. This is just kind of what's the budget season kind of kicking off, especially to new board members. Our budget is very complex. So this is just kind of a cheat sheet of how things are set up. I wanted to point out the general fund, which is fund 001. 00:12:57.230 --> 00:13:02.850 and that is the one that pays for the majority of our departmental operations. 00:13:04.010 --> 00:13:07.710 So the other ones we kind of reference as standalone funds. 00:13:09.830 --> 00:13:12.670 We'll probably go through those quite quickly. 00:13:13.250 --> 00:13:15.230 You can tell right away if they're balanced. 00:13:17.490 --> 00:13:25.230 So as we start that process and as always, I try to get the general fund revenues projected as soon as possible. 00:13:25.230 --> 00:13:55.210 the only really sticking points in that regard are real estate taxes if the county board decides to raise taxes or not and then our health insurance the expense on the expense side so that's obviously a huge expense and the real estate tax is a huge revenue so those are kind of the things that kind of take some time to figure out but everything else should be in line and I always 00:13:55.210 --> 00:14:01.510 do use the real estate tax amount from the previous year just as kind of a guide so we can 00:14:01.510 --> 00:14:12.610 see where we're at with all the department requests. So I guess that's, oh, I can do the budget 00:14:12.610 --> 00:14:23.350 policy now. So we did kind of solidify the dates on the back page just based on last year's 00:14:23.350 --> 00:14:38.030 calendar. And then we kind of had a meeting about the COLA, which we decided on 3.5%. A lot 00:14:38.030 --> 00:14:49.330 of the collective bargaining agreements are 4% or over for 2027. There's some for like corporal 00:14:49.330 --> 00:15:19.310 corrections that are 13%. The deputy sergeant is 15%. So there's some outliers there. But overall, it's 4%, 4.5% of those CBAs. So we thought that 3.5% was in line with that. And looking it up on the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the CPI over the last 12 months was 3.8%. So that's how we arrived at that number. Does anyone have any questions on the budget? 00:15:19.310 --> 00:15:47.990 policy or? You know, I just have a comment that I'd sure like to see if we're going to just continue and this has nothing, there's anything going on here except me. We don't get any benefit out of these automatic pay raises at all. We get nothing. We're going to give somebody 15% and they're not going to do any more than they did last year. And I think that's from, that's all. 00:15:49.310 --> 00:16:07.980 I have a notice that is the right time to bring this up, but on the budget policy, we don't have a contract with the Jane Adams Trail anymore, it's fired in 2022. 00:16:08.800 --> 00:16:13.520 And is that something that we should pursue or they should pursue or how does it? 00:16:13.520 --> 00:16:23.700 If we're going to continue to contribute through the policy, or not through the policy, through the budget, we absolutely need to have agreement in place, but that's not through the budget policy. 00:16:24.340 --> 00:16:34.620 and other thing that was in the budget policy was user fees done by the policy boards that spoke 00:16:34.620 --> 00:16:41.240 we're supposed to review them Saturday, January 30th, they were supposed to be reviewed, but 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:46.060 we haven't had that study done since we've talked about the 2019. 00:16:46.060 --> 00:16:52.880 I don't think unless the board wants to spend another probably $50,000, $40,000 when we did 00:16:52.880 --> 00:17:04.180 the first time. We agreed as a board to increase a percentage every year, I believe. I still 00:17:04.180 --> 00:17:08.020 think that's probably the way to go. I don't personally believe we need to have another study 00:17:08.020 --> 00:17:18.140 done. The problem we had was no fees were raised for 17 years, while wages continued to go up, 00:17:18.140 --> 00:17:48.040 the cost of everything. One thing I would like everybody, I don't know if everyone remembers or not, but last year through the budget process, many department heads came forward and said, I understand the COLA is X, but I've got certain employees that serve six or seven or something like that. So I had made a comment then that I hope that through this process and approving this policy, we do draw a line 00:17:48.040 --> 00:17:50.160 in the sand and say, this is it. 00:17:51.500 --> 00:17:53.620 And I told the department heads the same thing. 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:58.500 If you really believe you're going to need more than what's approved, 3.5% or something, 00:17:58.600 --> 00:18:02.920 you need to come before all of this happens and talk to us about it. 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:05.480 I haven't heard anything from anyone. 00:18:05.620 --> 00:18:06.600 I don't know if you have. 00:18:06.820 --> 00:18:07.340 I have not. 00:18:08.420 --> 00:18:11.100 But inevitably, somebody's going to come forward. 00:18:11.100 --> 00:18:17.940 Some department was going to say, my chief deputy or whatever deserves way more. 00:18:18.040 --> 00:18:34.580 than what this is. I want them to have. I mean, State's Attorney's Office did it. Circuit Clerk's Office did it. Those are the only two I can pick off the top of my head in 2026, but they all wanted more money than what was approved in budget policy. 00:18:36.320 --> 00:18:46.340 We did accommodate State's Attorney. We were given 3.5% last year or 3.5% this year. 00:18:46.340 --> 00:18:50.760 I don't recall the numbers, but I do believe something like that was passed. 00:18:51.540 --> 00:18:54.340 And so that will still be... 00:18:54.340 --> 00:18:57.980 So then I think the assessor's office came forward too. 00:18:57.980 --> 00:18:58.500 Yeah. 00:18:58.560 --> 00:19:00.700 And I'm really excited to think about it. 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:04.700 Well, there's just a couple things that I... 00:19:04.700 --> 00:19:16.960 That's all I have unless anybody has any other questions. 00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:17.960 and Susan. 00:19:17.960 --> 00:19:23.960 So, no, any questions for Alan Stacker? 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:24.960 Any more? 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:27.960 Yes to the spoiled budget policy. 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:35.960 We'll do a discussion item on County Board Agenda for Thursday, just like we did last one, for 00:19:35.960 --> 00:19:41.960 the salary resolution from the Threadsley and County Clerk. 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:47.380 there'll just be a discussion point so I'll walk the entire board away and on. 00:19:50.670 --> 00:19:57.470 Okay, so 7.4, Treasures Report, Stephanie did send that out. 00:19:57.470 --> 00:20:20.560 Stephanie did send that out and she's not going to go over anything. So if you have any questions, you can reach out to her. 8.0, old business, 8.1 and 8.2 are the resolutions established the salary of the office of the treasurer and the county clerk. Are we able to discuss those beforehand or how can we do it together? 00:20:20.560 --> 00:20:23.900 Okay, with discussing beforehand, or 00:20:23.900 --> 00:20:26.560 Technically, you should make 00:20:26.560 --> 00:20:30.120 Can you do a motion to do both of them together? 00:20:31.320 --> 00:20:34.300 Yeah, I'm understanding it's one resolution, is it not? 00:20:34.560 --> 00:20:34.860 It is. 00:20:34.860 --> 00:20:45.860 All right, so we can get a motion to approve the resolution established with the salary of the office of the county treasurer and county clerk and recorder. 00:20:45.860 --> 00:20:47.160 Is there a motion to approve? 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:48.460 I'll make that motion. 00:20:48.780 --> 00:20:49.900 Mr. Burns, do I have a second? 00:20:49.900 --> 00:20:50.140 Second. 00:20:50.140 --> 00:21:07.100 Nice to meet you. All right. Any discussion on this? So before you, it is bringing all three of them to, putting them both on one and with the circuit clerk. So does anybody have any questions or anything like that? Discussion? 00:21:07.100 --> 00:21:12.100 I believe that this fits in the parameters of the three and a half section. 00:21:12.100 --> 00:21:42.080 So in your packet there was the previous back in 2024 when the circuit clerk's salary was raised and that is currently in effect for 2020. 00:21:42.100 --> 00:21:50.760 in 2026 and 2027, I believe. And this resolution would try to get them all in the same year thing 00:21:50.760 --> 00:22:02.580 and also the same number of costs per year. And so they're asking to, for a 3% raise, and 00:22:02.580 --> 00:22:10.920 I know that's within what we talked about with three and a half COLA. Nobody has a crystal 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:18.280 of all of what inflation is going to be or whatever, but looking out at one of the indicators 00:22:18.280 --> 00:22:28.760 like the M2 money supply, and that has been going up for like 3 to 5% per year, and that's 00:22:28.760 --> 00:22:33.720 usually an indicator of what inflation is going to be about any two months from now. 00:22:34.620 --> 00:22:40.700 So I think that's probably where we'll be unless we have some kind of special cause with 00:22:40.700 --> 00:22:51.420 the Iran thing or something. So I think this is in line with what our three and a half percent 00:22:51.420 --> 00:22:58.000 COLA would be. Again, as we look at the rest of the budget, we've got to try to make sure 00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:08.660 we stay in balance here and not everybody asks for all these big raises. So I'll try to do 00:23:08.660 --> 00:23:13.740 that is as the administration chair. So that's what I have on that. 00:23:15.380 --> 00:23:38.540 I was just going to say, just kind of add to that information, because I did a good job kind of talking about why they're on there. The circuit clerk is a judicial position. So the position is set for the four years with the two remaining. After this year, the county clerk and recorder and treasurer are constitutional. 00:23:38.660 --> 00:23:45.300 positions, and those need to be set for the four-year term. So that's why there's different 00:23:45.300 --> 00:23:57.960 years. Again, it's for the position. And then I think at the bottom of the thing in your packet, 00:23:57.960 --> 00:24:05.160 it kind of gives you an overview of what the other counties are doing. There's some that 00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:35.140 They're way higher, and there's some that are lower, so we look at that as well, so, yeah, it's, yeah, it's a mixed bag of tricks with, you know, all that, other counties, so, there's a big swing, a lot of those counties are really big, bright big counties, absolutely, you look at the ones near us, I think we're pretty, 00:24:35.140 --> 00:24:41.060 who might be pretty close to them, who might be over on one and under on another, so I think 00:24:41.060 --> 00:24:42.460 they're pretty high or close to them. 00:24:42.800 --> 00:24:47.620 And in that information that's in there, it talks about the zone that they're in, so that's 00:24:47.620 --> 00:24:51.340 kind of a better comparison of looking all over the state as well. 00:24:51.560 --> 00:24:52.520 So over, yeah. 00:24:53.360 --> 00:24:54.040 That's true. 00:24:54.220 --> 00:24:54.880 I think about that. 00:24:57.920 --> 00:25:02.080 Is that kind of based on the income that's coming in off of these other counties? 00:25:02.080 --> 00:25:32.060 I think it's the area correct but not necessarily the size I think so but then that would be more revenue coming in wouldn't it if it's larger well like King County is way bigger than us I'm pretty sure that there's a population of 517,000 so there's a 00:25:32.060 --> 00:25:33.900 I think it's in our area. 00:25:34.800 --> 00:25:36.020 Contestate that's something just 00:25:36.020 --> 00:25:37.560 so 00:25:37.560 --> 00:25:38.600 upper 00:25:38.600 --> 00:25:40.000 north 00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:41.360 Illinois, right? 00:25:42.300 --> 00:25:44.040 I'm not saying this. 00:25:45.300 --> 00:25:45.460 So 00:25:45.460 --> 00:25:51.670 I think 00:25:51.670 --> 00:25:53.990 the population 00:25:53.990 --> 00:25:54.350 is big 00:25:54.350 --> 00:25:54.790 so 00:25:54.790 --> 00:26:04.240 any other discussion 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:23.180 All right. Well, if there's no other further discussion, then I have them. All those in favor, say aye. 00:26:23.180 --> 00:26:26.500 All right. Motion carries. 00:26:29.380 --> 00:26:37.280 New business. Approval of the bond payment for MRC studentages 2020A and B debt interest. 00:26:38.560 --> 00:26:45.280 So this is the bond payment for Mill Reyes Crossing that is due to State Bank. 00:26:47.120 --> 00:26:52.720 So the way this we receive this invoice, we receive it every six months. This is just for interest, 00:26:52.720 --> 00:27:00.080 not for principal on the bonds or on the debt certificates, I apologize. And the way we receive 00:27:00.080 --> 00:27:06.560 the invoice, it just doesn't jive with our AP cycle. So we needed to do a manual check in order to get it 00:27:06.560 --> 00:27:09.960 to State Bank by 6-1. So that's why it's for you tonight. 00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:18.520 All right. Motion to approve. Mr. Frick, do I have a second? 00:27:20.040 --> 00:27:24.080 Gov. Mr. Didn't. Any discussion or questions for each of us? 00:27:26.980 --> 00:27:28.780 Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. 00:27:29.500 --> 00:27:31.740 Close. All right. Motion carries. 00:27:31.740 --> 00:27:35.580 and I think that should be the last time. 00:27:36.020 --> 00:27:36.400 It is. 00:27:37.700 --> 00:27:38.420 10.0. 00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:40.540 Motion to adjourn, Mr. 00:27:40.540 --> 00:27:42.740 Can I ask one question for you? 00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:52.220 I talked to Mr. Frick about inviting Steve Elbeck, who's in charge of the Jane Adams Trail Commission, 00:27:52.980 --> 00:27:56.260 to speak at the planning and development meeting. 00:27:56.760 --> 00:28:02.020 Should I ask him to come to the full board, too, or just the planning and development? 00:28:02.020 --> 00:28:07.800 that does not start Mr. Fricke's committee through the committee process first. 00:28:08.980 --> 00:28:09.780 That's all. 00:28:10.620 --> 00:28:11.220 Go ahead. 00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:22.140 I just want to understand from the committee's standpoint, it's just him presenting information, he's not bringing anything for just information. 00:28:22.140 --> 00:28:25.740 That's all I want to thank you, just information. 00:28:25.740 --> 00:28:46.120 A couple things with the budget for 2027, I believe, the economic, I'll call it TIF, but it's not the TIF, it's not TIF, for Mel Race, I believe it expires in 2027. 00:28:46.120 --> 00:28:47.380 The E-Zone? 00:28:47.940 --> 00:28:50.040 It's an economic development. 00:28:50.320 --> 00:28:51.540 Oh, the enterprise. 00:28:51.900 --> 00:28:53.200 Outer area, maybe? 00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:54.080 Yes. 00:28:55.740 --> 00:29:07.900 I have talked to not all nine taxing bodies that participate in that, but I've talked to a few that have already said they're absolutely not willing to support extending that. 00:29:08.040 --> 00:29:11.420 So there's really no point in talking to the others. 00:29:12.080 --> 00:29:18.880 It would also be to have two state legislators present this to the General Assembly to get it extended. 00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:24.440 I don't have any legislators that are willing to do that either. 00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:54.320 there. So that increment is going to go away 2028, probably part of 2027, I would assume, but I'm not sure how those distributions would work if it's taxable in 27, paid out in 28. But that's helping with that service, which I think matures in 2031. So there's going to be some expensive grant for how we're going to pay for. 00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:55.960 or I got to worry about too much. 00:29:55.960 --> 00:30:19.840 for it. I have to worry about too much in 2027, but definitely 2028 for sure. So just keep that in mind. It's a chunk. It's a chunk. Half a million a year. And there is a prepayment penalty on the bonds with State Bank, I believe, when we refinance those. 00:30:19.840 --> 00:30:28.440 you can correct me if I'm wrong with that, but there's no benefit if we had the funds to pay it off, which I don't know what we do. 00:30:30.740 --> 00:30:42.560 The other thing you had mentioned, if you have questions for the treasurer of her report, she is out of the country, at least until Tuesday of next week, so if you do try to reach out to her, she's not going to respond. 00:30:43.820 --> 00:30:44.960 I think that's it. 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:54.520 Sounds good. 10.0, adjournment. Do I have a motion to approve? So moved. Mr. Dins, do I have a second? Sure. 00:30:56.320 --> 00:30:59.760 All right. Any discussion? Really disappointed, Mr. Boyce. 00:30:59.760 --> 00:31:16.700 I know. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.