WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:16.250 Mayor Mrakas- Thursday, July 9th, 5 o'clock, the meeting of the Public Works Committee of Stevenson County, I'd like to call this meeting to order. Item 2.0 is the approval of the agenda. Is there a motion to approve the agenda? 00:00:16.250 --> 00:00:25.810 I so moved. Adam, seconded by there. Any questions, discussion on the motion? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. 00:00:25.810 --> 00:00:40.470 I need approval of the agenda, Mr. Kurt, review and approval of meeting minutes from general level to answer enough pitchforks and hammer handles, I have a motion to approve the meeting minutes. 00:00:41.150 --> 00:00:46.750 So moved by Mr. Newton, second by Mr. George. 00:00:46.890 --> 00:00:47.570 He wasn't there. 00:00:47.890 --> 00:00:49.250 Yes, you were noticeably absent. 00:00:49.470 --> 00:00:49.930 I was. 00:00:50.270 --> 00:00:51.190 Noticably absent. 00:00:52.190 --> 00:00:53.170 Any discussion? 00:00:53.950 --> 00:00:55.650 Seeing none, all those in favor. 00:00:55.650 --> 00:01:25.650 say aye. Motion is approved. I have 4.0, the approval of the claims. Tonight we have $613,322.79. What is the pleasure of the committee? I'll make a motion to approve the claims. Motion to approve. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. 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Second. 00:01:25.650 --> 00:01:49.200 I'm just here to discuss the previous time that I was here about, um, for GI transport and overweight elements toward building the unit structure, so, I think it's on item 8.3. 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:50.760 Yep, yep, that's all. 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:51.720 Thank you. 00:01:52.720 --> 00:01:53.160 Thank you, Mike. 00:01:53.160 --> 00:01:55.240 and I'll turn the boat to that scene. 00:01:55.780 --> 00:01:56.020 Yeah. 00:01:56.680 --> 00:01:57.160 All right. 00:01:57.560 --> 00:01:58.080 Sorry. 00:01:58.340 --> 00:01:58.940 I know I'm deaf. 00:01:59.060 --> 00:01:59.560 I'm sorry. 00:02:01.960 --> 00:02:02.480 Okay. 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:04.520 So you know the top of 10 minutes. 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:07.880 We're going to move on into Department of Reports, Animal Control. 00:02:08.700 --> 00:02:09.140 All right. 00:02:09.200 --> 00:02:17.160 We took in June a total of 21 cats, nine were surrenders, six were city series, six were county 00:02:17.160 --> 00:02:17.680 strays. 00:02:18.320 --> 00:02:22.600 We transferred 14 of them out to rescues, five were adoptable. 00:02:22.600 --> 00:02:43.860 and we had two that passed away. One was to panel loop and the other one was just a young kid and it failed to survive. Dog intake was 13, three surrenders, three counties, three cities and I did it a little different. We did four that were city that we just did the paperwork on. 00:02:43.860 --> 00:03:10.280 Four are currently being adoptable. Two were reclaimed. Seven paperwork only. Three of the surrenders, I believe, ended up getting reclaimed. They came back for the puppies. They decided not to sign them over. So we did paperwork making sure that they did their rabies and registration and membership them. So they basically adopted and bounced back without having to fix them. 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:40.140 Current animals we have, we have nine adoptable cats, nine on hold, the one boarding cat for the domestic case. Dogs, we have nine adoptable, ten on hold. That would be the mom and her puppies. The puppies all went to the prayer college today and got their first vaccines. So we'll have them in our three weeks and then they can go to homes. They will go on pet finders. 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:55.900 probably on Monday once I make sure everybody didn't have any reactions to the vaccine. I already have mom placed, and I believe one or two of the puppies do have homes from people that have volunteered and socialized with puppies. 00:03:55.900 --> 00:04:06.640 court cases. Mary Mankey is the same 727 kennel update. We did get the last of the hardware we needed 00:04:06.640 --> 00:04:13.340 this morning, and we finished putting the kennels together. We're working on a little plumbing that we 00:04:13.340 --> 00:04:19.780 need to do, and I need to figure out chop back, and the kennels are done. I should be moving the dogs in 00:04:19.780 --> 00:04:47.670 on Saturday. I did the ending balance for you guys with the highlights that the one deposit was for June, but got deposited July 1st. And that's it for that. Any questions on that? I do if nobody else does. I'll wait until everyone else has a chance. Okay, what does it mean when you have dogs on hold? 00:04:47.670 --> 00:04:55.330 They cannot be adopted currently, so it's the mom and her puppies are not adoptable because the puppies are too young 00:04:55.330 --> 00:05:03.750 Okay, so you say you have X number of dogs plus nine on pole, that means you have, I don't remember what you said you had on hand 00:05:03.750 --> 00:05:08.790 A total of 19 dogs, correct me, with the puppies 00:05:08.790 --> 00:05:12.190 And you have room for that many dogs? 00:05:12.270 --> 00:05:12.570 Yes 00:05:12.570 --> 00:05:42.510 on the individuals that surrendered their I'm assuming they were dogs that came back yes okay you had a microchipped they had the microchipped gravies and they had to do the registration did the owners pay for all of that yes so we didn't no they had to pay for all that and then I believe you said if I'm misquoting you correctly but so they were doing something different with 00:05:42.510 --> 00:05:52.790 the city on four animals, maybe four dogs. So remember how I said that we do the numbers were city were high 00:05:52.790 --> 00:05:59.510 because any dog that goes to the animal hospital to get the chips or county chips, they did the 00:05:59.510 --> 00:06:03.810 paperwork that way we have records of it and we have records if it's picked up again because in 00:06:03.810 --> 00:06:08.330 Illinois if they're picked up twice they have to be fixed and that way we have signed papers saying 00:06:08.330 --> 00:06:38.330 so those four dogs we only did paperwork for so we had records of it we only technically took three city dogs into our city so if you take in somebody surrenders a dog it's not microchipped as far as you know there's no vaccines you charge that person yes so do you make them pay that up front we it depends on how big the dog is because 00:06:38.330 --> 00:06:58.490 And if, for instance, it becomes aggressive, we have to pay for it to be put down and disposed of. So we kind of base it on their size. Because the microchip in that, if they're adopted, when they're adopted, the person that is adopting them was paid for that registration. And as far as vaccines and that, we get it done for free at the college. 00:06:59.590 --> 00:07:05.350 So we charge the adoption fee. So we get that money. It basically, it depends on the dollar. 00:07:05.350 --> 00:07:06.890 As long as it gets adopted, right? 00:07:06.890 --> 00:07:36.590 Yes. Yes. So what is it that you're charging the person that's dropping it off? Usually, like I said, depends on the dog, $50 to $100, depending on the dog. And that is just in case you have to euthanize? Yes. Yep. They were with cats. I meant obviously cats. Like, for instance, I took, a lot of times I asked for a donation, like we took three kittens in that were surrendered over and they were, 00:07:36.590 --> 00:08:07.510 they're eight weeks old so they're they'll get adopted or go to rescue right away and I said just a donation and she gave us $200. The mom and five kittens I took they gave $50 they're already going to rescue on tomorrow and I just took them in Monday. Now you've told this before and I apologize if I don't recall but with all the new kennels that you have what is your total capacity? There's 13 kennels but you can easily fit 00:08:07.510 --> 00:08:38.830 it again it all depends on the dogs if you can pair dogs up like mom and puppies can be paired up I can put four puppies in one of the cages so 13 is the minimum we usually don't pair dogs up so I would say 15 15 jobs yeah 15 like I said puppies are a little different yeah it depends on the size and the temperament I will never put two adult dogs together if it's two puppies like those puppies yeah they're safe to go together I don't want fights to start when I'm not 00:08:38.830 --> 00:08:53.140 there. How about cats? Cats, again, depends on the cats. We have, we have, we could probably 00:08:53.140 --> 00:08:57.740 fit 16 in the cattery. We'll never probably clear them up like that. And there is 00:08:57.740 --> 00:09:11.160 11 in the isolation room. So 27? Yeah. What's your top end number where you just say don't 00:09:11.160 --> 00:09:48.340 can't take it anymore. If we have a bunch of kittens, I'd say 30, but you will never have. I mean, if it's all kittens, they go so quick. Adult cats, I would like to only have one in the cage. So you're looking at probably 15 tops on adult cats. I'm all stuck, I promise. It's good. What's the longest termed cat that you have? Currently? Yes. Oh, it's nobody from 00:09:48.340 --> 00:09:56.560 last year. So it's probably a few months, maybe. We got a lot of newer cats. I don't think 00:09:56.560 --> 00:09:58.540 we have anybody that's been there. Probably. 00:09:58.540 --> 00:10:03.160 Holly, I think she came in May. 00:10:03.740 --> 00:10:07.100 So nothing since pre-2026. 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:08.080 Yeah, no. 00:10:08.580 --> 00:10:10.560 No, we were in current year. 00:10:11.020 --> 00:10:11.740 Okay, thank you. 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:12.560 You're welcome. 00:10:14.180 --> 00:10:18.200 When it was really extremely hot, you were struggling with the air conditioning. 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:20.380 It's been fine since. 00:10:21.620 --> 00:10:21.900 Yep. 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:26.800 I think part of the problem, number one, it was really hot, and number two, you had everybody 00:10:26.800 --> 00:10:34.000 going in and out on Monday and just opening the doors all that time. They did look at it, but it's been fine 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:41.360 since. We do have a fan in the electrical room and we have a fan because there's only like one real 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:48.540 cold, I can't think of what he said, cold air return and it's in the hallway, the back hallway where the 00:10:48.540 --> 00:10:56.060 greenhouse is. So we have a fan going towards that and it's been fine since. So, but they know and 00:10:56.060 --> 00:11:00.940 and I met Vaughn and Ryan were there today helping put kennels together, so. 00:11:01.380 --> 00:11:04.940 So then the FACA guy was there and looked at everybody. 00:11:09.700 --> 00:11:10.400 Anybody else? 00:11:10.400 --> 00:11:15.760 Thank you. 00:11:17.900 --> 00:11:39.190 Last month we got around the first time long. 00:11:39.290 --> 00:11:40.770 I think we have a couple hours left. 00:11:40.770 --> 00:11:47.330 and we gave Sunset Drive up by Orangeville, one of our roads. 00:11:48.290 --> 00:11:54.550 We still coded for Silver Creek Township, Rock Grove Township, Wadden's Township and Dakota Township. 00:11:54.550 --> 00:11:58.050 Started on Winslow. We'll finish them next week. 00:11:59.030 --> 00:12:07.470 Sprayed guardrail for weeds, patching potholes, of course, and we started striving. 00:12:07.470 --> 00:12:37.420 I think so that's pretty much about a month I missed painting quite a bit actually that our striker broke down last year so we have probably a third of what we should have painted last year but which is fine because we don't normally paint everything one year so this year everything might get painted or close to it so 00:12:37.420 --> 00:13:06.660 but we're using totes now instead of barrels so that helps goes a little quicker and working on buying a mixer right now for it for those that you sit on the tote and it stirs it up you let it run for an hour or two before you start painting and pulling out of the tote so should go pretty good once we get enough time and weather so but I've seen 00:13:06.660 --> 00:13:08.180 and Chief John, that's great. 00:13:08.980 --> 00:13:11.840 Yeah, they did Bolton Road and Florence. 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:20.620 I told them that if it looks good compared to before they fixed the stripper, it would look that great. 00:13:22.680 --> 00:13:24.140 Straight where the road is straight. 00:13:24.660 --> 00:13:24.860 Yeah. 00:13:25.960 --> 00:13:26.720 So it was good. 00:13:26.900 --> 00:13:30.860 I'll tell you what, I'll be honest, if that's a job I would not want to drive that. 00:13:31.660 --> 00:13:37.420 It's very monotonous, just staring at a dot on the road, gauging where you're going, 00:13:37.420 --> 00:13:40.660 I'm not really, you can tell when it goes off. 00:13:56.660 --> 00:13:59.540 You should have the highway department update in front of you. 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:03.920 I've highlighted anything in our construction work that's changed since the last meeting. 00:14:03.920 --> 00:14:17.320 So the first item, I heard this week that Springfield has awarded the contract to WK Construction, so the next step is a pre-con for that, so we'll be working on the origin of all within a month 00:14:17.320 --> 00:14:25.720 Cedarville Road, Decode Road, and West Point Road, all their contracts are in front of you to consider 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:32.980 Item F, waiting for Springfield to approve the contract with Martin 00:14:32.980 --> 00:14:43.000 to get that project started. We have to wait until the previous bridge has done it open before we can close this one, because otherwise we'll have people land lost. 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:53.280 Let me see. Item H, McConnell Road intersection joint agreement in back black hole down in Springfield, waiting for that to get approved. 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:59.780 That doesn't get done before the end of the year, right? 00:15:00.900 --> 00:15:02.320 I have to stick around for another point. 00:15:02.980 --> 00:15:04.980 He remembers 00:15:04.980 --> 00:15:07.200 In your current role 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:09.420 Oh, yeah, good one 00:15:09.420 --> 00:15:11.200 Let's see 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.640 The signing contract 00:15:13.640 --> 00:15:16.260 I'm going to push that to 00:15:16.260 --> 00:15:18.000 2027 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:20.200 It's FY2027 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:23.140 I've had that agreement 00:15:23.140 --> 00:15:24.820 down in Springfield since May 00:15:24.820 --> 00:15:26.020 May 1st 00:15:26.020 --> 00:15:27.280 waiting for them to sign it 00:15:27.280 --> 00:15:27.580 So 00:15:27.580 --> 00:15:31.380 it's set up for 00:15:31.380 --> 00:15:37.880 FI 27 started July 1st, so it'll about get built next year. 00:15:39.700 --> 00:15:44.500 And that's it as far as construction projects. 00:15:44.640 --> 00:15:46.740 You should have the bid tabs in front of you. 00:15:50.900 --> 00:15:53.180 First one is Cedarville Road. 00:15:53.340 --> 00:15:56.020 That came in 22% under the engineer's estimate. 00:15:56.020 --> 00:16:25.900 so that's that was a good video on that one. Dakota Road came in over but it's a smaller project and I can come up with additional funds to go over on that and both estimates were all the engineers estimates so that's good to go and then the Five Corners River project that's for Great Crossing that 00:16:25.900 --> 00:16:31.580 came in 41% over the engineer's estimate, but that's great cost in protection funds. 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:36.160 The ICC said, go ahead and let it, we'll cover the extra cost. 00:16:36.160 --> 00:16:42.280 So there was probably 100% itself, and there's actually no cost to it coming in that way. 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:49.020 Let's see, VidTams, erosion problem. 00:16:49.700 --> 00:16:52.120 I think, Larry, you saw that erosion problem. 00:16:52.120 --> 00:17:03.420 We had a guardrail project last year, and there was some embankment behind the guardrail, and we've got significant erosion on several of the sites. 00:17:04.020 --> 00:17:10.120 So I've been working diligently trying to figure out who caused it. 00:17:10.120 --> 00:17:24.420 So what it all shook out to, I talked with the designer, the contractor, IDOT, and I had my guys in the office today, and we kind of worked through the whole process. 00:17:25.080 --> 00:17:36.180 The embankment work that they did was fine, we did it according to specs, the seeding was fine, done according to specs, but the mulch, they blew it on, but they didn't stabilize the mulch, 00:17:36.180 --> 00:18:04.580 which means knifed it in the embankment or chemical stabilization or hydraulic mulch they didn't give any of that stabilization so what it comes down to is they didn't do it according to the specs so it was up to them to to repair it I prepared the letter I gave it back to that to IDOT and get a comment from them I finished that up today so I'm waiting for a comment back to IDOT before I send that to the contractor so 00:18:04.580 --> 00:18:09.220 We'll save things up a little bit and we'll see what happens. 00:18:09.620 --> 00:18:10.160 Thank you. 00:18:10.460 --> 00:18:14.720 There was about, I got an estimate, about $50,000 from the Great Fair. 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:17.220 I saw it in several places. 00:18:17.660 --> 00:18:20.760 How many sites were there? 00:18:20.820 --> 00:18:21.560 I think there was 19. 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:22.760 About 19 sites. 00:18:22.940 --> 00:18:23.100 Oh, my. 00:18:24.580 --> 00:18:31.880 Yeah, we had significant rain after they did it, but all the mulch, which is there to help stabilize it, 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:34.180 it was washed away. 00:18:35.860 --> 00:18:39.940 It wasn't done according to the specs, so it was on the contract to fix it. 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:43.580 I have a question about that before you move on. 00:18:43.940 --> 00:18:46.180 Were they required to have a performance bond? 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:48.880 Everything's all bonded, yes. 00:18:49.600 --> 00:18:54.600 We haven't made our final payment to them yet, so we can pull that off. 00:18:54.600 --> 00:19:01.560 They need good evaluations from their clients to do more work. 00:19:01.640 --> 00:19:04.380 If you give them that evaluation, they'll get knocked out. 00:19:05.280 --> 00:19:11.220 And this is one of, Northern is normally a subcontractor, but they were the prime contractor in this, 00:19:11.340 --> 00:19:17.980 and they've had a lot of problems with them trying to get, they don't understand the process of doing it in a prime. 00:19:17.980 --> 00:19:21.440 So, we'll see. 00:19:22.840 --> 00:19:23.880 Anything else? 00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:25.140 I have a question. 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:26.040 Okay. 00:19:26.340 --> 00:19:29.160 The Bolton Road, will that go under construction this year? 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:31.400 Still in design. 00:19:31.780 --> 00:19:33.140 Still in design. 00:19:34.100 --> 00:19:37.560 I'm still optimistic we'll get that built this year. 00:19:39.240 --> 00:19:40.200 I hope so. 00:19:40.380 --> 00:19:40.840 It's that way. 00:19:44.630 --> 00:19:45.790 Any other questions? 00:19:46.190 --> 00:19:46.750 Where are we going? 00:19:47.750 --> 00:19:48.450 Thank you. 00:19:49.650 --> 00:19:51.170 No old business. 00:19:51.410 --> 00:19:53.410 We'll move right on into, oh, I'm sorry. 00:19:53.750 --> 00:19:54.330 Skipped it. 00:19:55.350 --> 00:19:56.090 That's that. 00:19:56.350 --> 00:19:57.510 This is a moment. 00:19:57.510 --> 00:19:59.200 Yeah, I don't know if this is a matter of status, Brian? 00:20:00.080 --> 00:20:06.380 Still, we haven't really gotten too many claims for the seal coding and stuff like that yet. 00:20:06.500 --> 00:20:22.700 I think next month will be a busy month, but the majority of it, half of that claim, the $600,000 claim, was for the Township Bridge in Shippey, so that the majority of it came out of that Township Bridge, which we get funded, 100% funding for that. 00:20:22.700 --> 00:20:37.040 I don't even want to say it, but maintenance equipment and stuff like that, it's still under budget, we're still doing good, but other than that, we're doing it, we're going to just 00:20:37.040 --> 00:20:43.440 Any questions for Brad? 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:45.860 Thank you, sir. 00:20:45.860 --> 00:20:59.060 That was good past old business because there is maybe right on into new 8.1 Wiles, the presentation of the SRF, the SRF representative. 00:20:59.060 --> 00:21:14.240 Yeah, I'll be giving the presentation. If you remember, we got a grant to look at all the great crossings in the county, and we're at the really fairly beginning phase of the project. 00:21:15.860 --> 00:21:23.060 Gasser App is the consultant doing the work and we walked through, they gave me the presentation 00:21:23.060 --> 00:21:28.940 we walked through today or earlier today, yes, so I walked through it and I'd like to give 00:21:28.940 --> 00:21:31.460 this presentation if possible to the county board. 00:21:31.800 --> 00:21:37.260 So we are in the public involvement, data collection and public involvement phase of it. 00:21:37.300 --> 00:21:43.280 So this qualifies as involvement for the public, we're giving it a public meeting and then do 00:21:43.280 --> 00:21:49.060 do the same thing with the at the county board and we'll put on the website so other people 00:21:49.060 --> 00:21:53.340 have an opportunity to see what we're doing and comment on it. 00:21:53.340 --> 00:21:59.760 So you can't really read it very clearly there, but there's a sign there at the Great Crossing. 00:21:59.760 --> 00:22:05.480 So if you're out in the area and see a problem with assault vehicle on the tracks, tracks that 00:22:05.480 --> 00:22:10.300 are damaged or something like that, there's a 1-800 number to call to let them know. 00:22:10.300 --> 00:22:16.980 It also gives the location of that mile marker where that crossing is. 00:22:17.260 --> 00:22:21.380 So that's good information if you're ever out and about and you see some problems. 00:22:21.380 --> 00:22:36.600 So the agenda for this slide presentation, we'll talk about the study overview, the schedule, where we're at in the schedule, the existing conditions, stakeholder engagement. 00:22:36.600 --> 00:22:46.780 They're talking about doing a presentation to Village of Leda, to City of Freeport, and to the emergency management group. 00:22:46.780 --> 00:22:55.840 So we will be reaching out to different entities to get the stakeholders involved in the project. 00:22:57.500 --> 00:23:05.780 So the study overview, Canadian National is a class one railroad mainline. 00:23:06.600 --> 00:23:10.780 line traverses the county diagonally from northwest to the southeast. 00:23:10.780 --> 00:23:15.700 There's 26 accurate route crossings in the county that are public crossings. 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:19.640 There are a number of private ones, but we're not addressing any of the private ones. 00:23:19.800 --> 00:23:20.340 We can't remember. 00:23:21.120 --> 00:23:22.340 We don't know. 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:29.420 So here's a map showing all the crossings on the upper left corner. 00:23:29.580 --> 00:23:32.480 There was a fatal accident up there in 2020. 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:39.320 and we have three different locations where they did a data collection. 00:23:39.460 --> 00:23:48.760 They put up a sensor on their tracks and the tracks made note of rail traffic, any delays 00:23:48.760 --> 00:23:50.200 of the crossings, that sort of stuff. 00:23:50.320 --> 00:23:55.720 So we had three of those sensors out there to collect the data and that's where we're at 00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:57.980 in the phase of the project is data collection. 00:23:57.980 --> 00:24:00.160 You can see all the crossings there. 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:15.980 You can see the identified pedestrian crossing, rate separations, and even identified the hospital to address any delays that might be caused in that area. 00:24:17.260 --> 00:24:18.640 Can I ask you a fourth question? 00:24:19.220 --> 00:24:21.040 What is the vertical height constraint? 00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:21.760 Pardon me? 00:24:22.060 --> 00:24:23.620 What's vertical height constraint? 00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:26.480 Do you know what that's referring to? 00:24:27.220 --> 00:24:28.280 Oh, gosh. 00:24:28.280 --> 00:24:33.490 I'm thinking 13 00:24:33.490 --> 00:24:38.450 I think it's 13 feet 6 inches 00:24:38.450 --> 00:24:41.450 because we ran into that with Bolton Road 00:24:41.450 --> 00:24:46.710 to meet standards 00:24:46.710 --> 00:24:47.890 it's like 00:24:47.890 --> 00:24:50.530 something like that 00:24:50.530 --> 00:24:51.030 I don't 00:24:51.030 --> 00:24:55.290 at Bolton, yes, we are raising it 00:24:55.290 --> 00:24:59.670 we will have a standard clearance under Bolton Road 00:24:59.670 --> 00:25:03.630 when it's gone. So they're actually raising the track and not digging out from underneath? 00:25:04.110 --> 00:25:10.230 Home road is already raised. They replaced the bridge already. We will be lowering the road. 00:25:11.270 --> 00:25:17.330 And they did raise the bridge, raise the tracks a little bit, but we will have standard clearance 00:25:17.330 --> 00:25:23.710 underneath it. Yes. Thank you. Sure. Here's the different types of crossing, the different types 00:25:23.710 --> 00:25:31.930 Detection, you got an aggregate crossing in bitunas at the crossing with the wood crossing 00:25:31.930 --> 00:25:40.190 and in this case, first couple pictures, it's just crossbots and no signals and then in town 00:25:40.190 --> 00:25:43.610 you see some signals and the cross arms. 00:25:47.170 --> 00:25:52.930 The purpose of the study is to assess whether grade separations, crossing closings, consolidations 00:25:52.930 --> 00:25:59.290 and advanced traffic management technologies can deliver measurable benefits and gain stakeholder 00:25:59.290 --> 00:26:05.250 and community support. Study will include data collection analysis at where we're at now, 00:26:06.010 --> 00:26:12.070 stakeholder community engagement, and that's where we're getting into that phase. And they'll have a 00:26:12.070 --> 00:26:17.810 development of potential alternatives to address any kind of things that we can do to correct the 00:26:17.810 --> 00:26:27.350 safety issues. And one of the positive parts of this study will be a benefit-cost analysis for the crossings. 00:26:27.650 --> 00:26:32.630 Benefit-cost analysis will help when you're looking for funding to take care of some of the issues. 00:26:32.630 --> 00:26:39.790 A lot of the funding depends on benefit-cost analysis. So the end result of the study will let us 00:26:39.790 --> 00:26:47.370 have that information to go after more funding. Like I said, we're at the existing condition phase, 00:26:47.370 --> 00:26:49.690 Public and Obama goes all the way through the whole process. 00:26:50.690 --> 00:26:55.970 They'll be developing potential alternatives late summer and fall of this year. 00:26:55.970 --> 00:26:59.650 And they'll evaluate different safety strategies. 00:27:00.050 --> 00:27:05.530 And the final study recommendation will come out late fall or late winter or early spring. 00:27:09.750 --> 00:27:15.330 We'll engage those most effective by potential grid crossings, improvements, or changes, including 00:27:15.330 --> 00:27:21.810 County residents, municipal partners, emergency service providers, businesses, and the railroads. 00:27:22.770 --> 00:27:28.530 We'll have public meetings, online comment at MAF, and stakeholder coordination meetings. 00:27:29.410 --> 00:27:36.450 And here's the QR code. It should be active now. It wasn't quite active yet this morning, but 00:27:36.450 --> 00:27:39.490 it should be active now, but we will post this on our website and then 00:27:39.490 --> 00:27:44.850 and then have it available for the county court meeting next week. 00:27:44.850 --> 00:27:52.250 And here's our contact information, of course, you know, mine and then Justin Scott is the project 00:27:52.250 --> 00:28:00.840 manager for SRF Consulting that's doing this study for us. 00:28:00.840 --> 00:28:01.840 Any questions? 00:28:01.840 --> 00:28:02.840 Yes. 00:28:02.840 --> 00:28:07.440 So the preferred method of contact is that QR code, if the public has? 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:19.320 The QR code will give you access to an online survey that will ask questions about if you have any concerns about crossing, but then that contact information will be available, yes. 00:28:23.270 --> 00:28:38.030 Did you know if they're taking into consideration the number of the amount of traffic that's on that rail and the contents of whatever they're carrying? 00:28:38.030 --> 00:28:50.750 I'm not sure about the contents of what they're carrying. They would know how much traffic is on the railroad, but what's on the railroad, I'm not sure if that's part of it. 00:28:56.190 --> 00:28:57.430 Any other questions? 00:28:59.580 --> 00:29:00.780 Okay, thank you. 00:29:00.780 --> 00:29:15.070 I'm going to run into 8.10.2, the minimum of understanding of the municipal township and the state of the staff center. 00:29:15.430 --> 00:29:19.350 Okay, this is another one, a similar one you had last time. 00:29:19.710 --> 00:29:21.530 These are three different bridges. 00:29:26.870 --> 00:29:31.640 Oh, I'm sorry. 00:29:32.120 --> 00:29:32.700 You got it. 00:29:32.700 --> 00:29:35.920 I was thinking we were doing it or something. 00:29:36.100 --> 00:29:36.400 Okay. 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:55.660 Okay. These are three prisoners that are in Winslow Township. They are, IDOT maintains all of our inspections now, but the, any kind of maintenance issues that come up with it, they are Winslow's townships. 00:29:55.660 --> 00:30:01.220 Township's bridges, and the Highway Commission for Winslow Township has signed the agreement. 00:30:01.220 --> 00:30:06.060 The agreement has been through CARL, it's been through IDOT. 00:30:06.060 --> 00:30:14.800 This just basically codifies the relationship between Wisconsin, Illinois, the bridge office, 00:30:14.800 --> 00:30:17.920 and just puts it right in who's responsible for what. 00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:22.240 So I recommend signing the agreement. 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.820 Last month we gave away two bridges, this month you're giving us three bridges. 00:30:27.980 --> 00:30:30.040 Well, yeah, there are three of ours now already. 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:31.300 So this is it? 00:30:32.360 --> 00:30:34.260 I think that should be it, yes. 00:30:35.140 --> 00:30:37.220 One more year for every additional bridge. 00:30:38.520 --> 00:30:40.440 I like where you're going. 00:30:41.360 --> 00:30:43.320 So let's see, we're up to six. 00:30:45.320 --> 00:30:46.900 Grandfather and the three just brought. 00:30:48.180 --> 00:30:49.720 Making even ten right now. 00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:50.720 Yeah. 00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:53.720 I'd make the motion to approve the MOU. 00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:58.720 Any discussion? 00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:01.720 Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. 00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:02.720 Aye. 00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:04.720 Motion is through. 00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:06.720 Anything to sign? 00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:08.720 No, just for Scott to sign the penalty. 00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:10.720 We got a lot to sign. 00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:12.720 That's great. 00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:19.860 Next, we have 8.3, the oversized overweight permit. 00:31:19.860 --> 00:31:45.920 Okay. Last month, they presented the type of axle configurations for the 80,000-pound truck and 105,000-pound truck. So we looked at the two different axles. The 105,000 is six axle, 80,000 is five axle. There's a way to compare 00:31:45.920 --> 00:32:00.360 here. The type of loading from these is called ESOLs. Equivalent single axle loads. They use that to identify what damage is caused by the different truck configurations. 00:32:00.360 --> 00:32:13.860 So, and it took somebody smarter than me to figure this out, and we have Caden on staff who's taking classes and knows the whole process. So, I said, here, take care of this and come back to me with the solution. 00:32:13.860 --> 00:32:32.500 So you look at the two different configurations and based on the axle loading and the number of trips per day, fewer trips with a heavier truck, the daily easels is less for the six axle, 105,000 pound vehicle. 00:32:32.500 --> 00:32:41.960 so it's causing less damage to the road on a daily basis so the 105,000 pump truck results 00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:50.380 in about 20% decrease in daily pavement damage because of the two passes instead of three the 00:32:50.380 --> 00:33:01.420 statutory authority for a permit to allow overweight loads I should be in your packet it's 625 ALCS 00:33:01.420 --> 00:33:15.480 5-15-301, and there is actually a carve-out for milk deliveries in there for a divisible load. 00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:26.200 If it's undivisible, that's a different situation, but milk product is a divisible load, but it allows you to do a special permit for loading. 00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:55.800 so I checked all the other counties in the district and only Winnebago County has a permit that is not just a daily use and they have Rockford charges $180 for 120 day permit Park and Winnebago 120 day permit for $150 IDOT charges an annual oversized overweight permit of $1,000. 00:33:56.200 --> 00:34:07.160 So, my recommendation is that you guys can do what you want, that we offer a 120-day permit for $150. 00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:10.920 Any questions? 00:34:13.680 --> 00:34:14.480 I got one, I guess. 00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:24.120 So, we have this new scale that Sheriff's Department has, assuming we didn't weigh one of these six axle trucks if we need to? 00:34:24.720 --> 00:34:27.780 Yeah, we have temporary scales. 00:34:27.780 --> 00:34:29.180 and they've been certified, haven't they? 00:34:29.340 --> 00:34:29.960 We have them. 00:34:30.080 --> 00:34:31.920 I think the Sheriff's Department has two now, right? 00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:33.040 Yeah, they have them now, too. 00:34:33.380 --> 00:34:33.700 Okay. 00:34:33.860 --> 00:34:34.040 Yeah. 00:34:34.460 --> 00:34:36.300 You talked about it at the meeting, but I... 00:34:36.300 --> 00:34:39.940 Ours are certified, yes, that we could... 00:34:39.940 --> 00:34:40.460 Okay. 00:34:40.460 --> 00:34:43.920 If they needed extra ones, if they didn't have enough, it's an excellent... 00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:48.420 Here, we can all do the 6XL if we needed the check one. 00:34:48.700 --> 00:34:49.340 That's all. 00:34:49.700 --> 00:34:49.980 Okay. 00:34:50.300 --> 00:34:50.700 I'm good. 00:34:53.640 --> 00:34:58.600 I have a question, I guess, because a 105,000-pound truck, 00:34:58.600 --> 00:35:21.220 I take two trips a day, 210,000 girls' weight, I take the 80,000, three trips a day, I've got 240,000 girls' weight, so you really can't technically haul with two trips of the big truck, the same that you can haul with a regular size, and three trips of the regular size trip. 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:26.420 So I got some reservations about the calculations. 00:35:26.420 --> 00:35:36.730 I have a question, I guess, maybe a few. 00:35:38.270 --> 00:35:45.250 What's the point in charging the fee for an overweight truck, concerning the amount of damage it'll do on the road? 00:35:47.390 --> 00:35:59.930 Just to be consistent with surrounding area, it doesn't, we're not recouping anything for damages because the damage is less for that. 00:35:59.930 --> 00:36:31.240 so that's just my recommendation because of the sound in area but if I don't disagree that something should be charged but to me the whole point of having a fee I guess would be I would hope to either help recover the cost of the damage to the roads or to discourage overweight trucks and again to limit the damage to the road and I don't care how many axles you have when you turn a corner whichever weight your axle is varying weight it's going to tear up that 00:36:31.500 --> 00:36:50.140 when they're turning, no matter what. But if we're going to charge $150, I guess I just, I don't understand why we're charging it. I know to be consistent, but we're not getting anything out of that $150. 00:36:50.140 --> 00:37:05.740 And to me, the carve out is for milk loads. I would make this applicable to any other overweight load. We would have to look at it specifically, but I'm addressing just this one situation. 00:37:05.740 --> 00:37:20.120 Well, I'm not saying you shouldn't charge a fee, because I think we should try to recoup costs. How many miles of roads do we have that are behind schedule? Plus, you have, I don't want to say the destruction of it, but the damage to it. 00:37:20.140 --> 00:37:21.780 that just impounds that. 00:37:23.220 --> 00:37:29.220 But to only charge $150, to me, that's just pointless. 00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:33.700 If that's all we're going to do, then it might as well be zero. 00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:44.260 Yeah, the fee does not address damage to the road, whether it's 80,000 pounds or 105,000 pounds. 00:37:45.120 --> 00:37:46.820 It serves no purpose. 00:37:47.240 --> 00:37:48.400 Correct. I agree with you. 00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:54.840 Well, the only thing I do think doesn't, I give you a tracking of what's going on, it's good, 00:37:55.240 --> 00:37:59.540 it's a little six-act, it's going to track that, what could get pulled over, they don't have 00:37:59.540 --> 00:38:04.460 this, and we know they didn't pay, so, but that's true, we're just going to track it, but 00:38:04.460 --> 00:38:10.000 I've got to know, man, the sheriff's office, was it going to be driving around looking for 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:39.980 over here. I would say that that's exactly why we're here now is because they were pulling all of my trucks over. Like it was. It had to be a complaint. No, no, no. It wasn't a complaint. I mean, they put them on Highway 20. It was pulling over the sheriff's officers. Yeah. But what they did, 00:38:39.980 --> 00:38:45.220 was that they went through and they called Stevenson County and said, hey, we have a truck 00:38:45.220 --> 00:38:52.300 that's 102,000 pounds or whatever it was, and hey, do they have a permit to get to, and they 00:38:52.300 --> 00:38:54.900 gave them the address for the price that we were doing, and they sat down. 00:38:55.940 --> 00:38:57.560 So, sir, you were ticketed? 00:38:58.140 --> 00:39:00.580 We weren't because where we were pulled over, we weren't overweight. 00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:01.260 Got you. 00:39:01.260 --> 00:39:07.920 So, they were being proactive, which is why we're here today trying to navigate this. 00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:09.980 And so props to that 00:39:09.980 --> 00:39:12.080 They were doing exactly what you didn't think 00:39:12.080 --> 00:39:12.640 They were doing 00:39:12.640 --> 00:39:14.060 They were pulling trucks 00:39:14.060 --> 00:39:17.500 How long had you been? 00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:20.140 We've been doing it for a year and a half 00:39:20.140 --> 00:39:24.700 Once they did it once 00:39:24.700 --> 00:39:26.360 It was every single truck 00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:28.720 So my understanding is 00:39:28.720 --> 00:39:29.880 Once that's going to court 00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:32.120 Those judges dismissing fines 00:39:32.120 --> 00:39:34.140 Yeah, well we didn't get any tickets 00:39:34.140 --> 00:39:35.280 Because then what I did was 00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:37.900 I called and got a permit 00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:42.880 before the truck left, and that way it may be legal to get to where we needed it to build 00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:52.340 one time, and then after that, then we lowered our weights down below $80,000, which is, I mean, 00:39:52.520 --> 00:39:54.060 from your guys' standpoint, 00:39:54.060 --> 00:40:01.100 I mean, from your guys' table's point of view, it probably isn't that big of a deal, but to us as the hauler, it's massive increases. 00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:07.260 I guess that's my point, is $150 doesn't do anything for us. 00:40:08.540 --> 00:40:18.780 Also, though, on the side, it probably costs New Estro probably $30,000 to $40,000 or maybe more than that, by having to have more trucks in there to operate. 00:40:18.780 --> 00:40:23.400 and they just did a major reorganization and expansion and stuff. 00:40:23.820 --> 00:40:30.800 And so it costs, because of the extra, they have to use the sewer, the water, they have to clean the trucks, the chemicals and stuff. 00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:35.920 So it costs the actual new external company substantial hotline, as much as it does as us. 00:40:36.620 --> 00:40:36.840 Yeah. 00:40:37.020 --> 00:40:42.380 And both of the road damage that's probably causing additional truck traffic. 00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:43.200 Yeah. 00:40:43.200 --> 00:40:47.900 So it's just the lesser of the two people. 00:40:48.020 --> 00:40:48.180 Yeah. 00:40:48.180 --> 00:40:56.020 Is this permit cover multiple trucks or just one truck? 00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:58.580 One truck for $120 a day, yes. 00:41:00.060 --> 00:41:02.380 So you're talking $500 in. 00:41:06.110 --> 00:41:11.450 The question is how many trucks do you have? 00:41:12.090 --> 00:41:20.150 We have 26 and we permit every single one of them regardless of whether or not they go into Illinois or not. 00:41:20.150 --> 00:41:25.550 because the truck breaks down and has to pay this loan to its place. 00:41:26.450 --> 00:41:32.830 So, I mean, at this particular point right now, we pay roughly, between Illinois and Wisconsin, 00:41:33.050 --> 00:41:35.190 we pay probably $50,000. 00:41:36.010 --> 00:41:37.750 But for the county, you haven't? 00:41:37.870 --> 00:41:39.350 We haven't paid anything to the county. 00:41:39.550 --> 00:41:47.370 I mean, like you offer 120-day, I mean, on the same token, Illinois does the same exact thing. 00:41:47.370 --> 00:41:50.070 They just take that amount and times it by four. 00:41:50.150 --> 00:41:52.670 and make it an annual permit. 00:41:52.850 --> 00:41:54.930 But the roads are built for all of it. 00:41:54.930 --> 00:42:14.170 100%. I agree. I'm saying if it's 120 days for $150, then all they do is multiply it. It's an option that somebody has that is not something that has to be. All it creates is more paperwork on your guys. Then if the permit is offered, if you just do it annually, then it's done. 00:42:14.170 --> 00:42:27.790 Good. I asked Dale, too, in an email, what happens when we have post-it robes at the, just for the record, there's no overweight trucks on a post-it robes during that time. You should ask Steve for that question. 00:42:31.750 --> 00:42:33.570 Overweight loads are not allowed. 00:42:34.330 --> 00:42:36.690 There's all kinds of overweight trucks. 00:42:37.530 --> 00:42:38.030 I understand. 00:42:38.030 --> 00:42:53.390 Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I suppose we have a question. Yes. So we know of other trucking companies that will now go to this, it's actual thing, or start using that more, or is it just these guys? 00:42:55.490 --> 00:43:07.530 We don't know that, probably. I mean, the only benefit I'm thinking is, yeah, it's overall weight is more, but maybe we'll have less truck traffic on it. 00:43:07.530 --> 00:43:19.070 which is a good thing, but then if you do get an accident, you got more weight behind you, so that's a greater force, so 00:43:19.070 --> 00:43:24.930 the second thing is, you stick to drug transmission, which could be a positive. 00:43:26.390 --> 00:43:32.650 Most of our overweight permits, they come on a daily basis, and how many do we get in a week? 00:43:34.890 --> 00:43:35.410 Probably. 00:43:37.530 --> 00:43:51.410 I don't know, over the course of the year, we've probably been paid like $40,000 in overweight permits, I don't know, but probably 10, maybe, it depends on the time of year and stuff like that, obviously 00:43:51.410 --> 00:43:59.310 And it's a daily use, for the most part, they're bringing a crane in, they're bringing a gravel crusher, they just need it for the day 00:43:59.310 --> 00:44:05.190 I've never had anybody apply for like a milk hauler 00:44:05.190 --> 00:44:18.910 What happens when a 105,000-pound truck gets on a state highway and is pulled over there? 00:44:19.950 --> 00:44:29.190 You show the officer, whoever, was a permit from Stevenson County, but you're not on Stevenson County Road, so... 00:44:29.190 --> 00:44:33.270 I'm sorry, I couldn't tell if he was looking at me. 00:44:33.270 --> 00:45:01.150 So we have an Illinois permit, the state of Illinois permit, one of those six axles, $120,000, so that's on any state, or that's how we ended up here, it was, then I was very, very, Brian, when I talked to him the very first time, I misunderstood my permit, and I thought it was for the state of Illinois, and it allowed us a certain amount of distance to get off of the road that we were on, to get to where we delivered, which in those cases, a couple of miles ago. 00:45:01.150 --> 00:45:30.850 so that was my misunderstanding is why I'm here now so we have we have a separate permit for state roads and then in this case we would have a permit for Stevenson County also which what we do is we print those off those are in a binder in the truck that when if we come across the portable scale which is very challenging I think we've had just this year alone I think we've had 19 class 3 inspections 00:45:30.850 --> 00:45:57.350 on Highway 20, which is an astronomical amount, which means none of any of this, anything, any problems that we've had has been clerical. It's not anything to do with the equipment. I mean, there are 20, 25 trucks and 20, 26 trailers that are good. How many miles will you be traveling on a pounding boat? 00:45:57.350 --> 00:46:13.270 So we take 73 to Dublin and then we take a left on, is that Kent Road? So we go down Dublin and take a left on Kent and go down, I don't know if it's not, Kent, it's in the end of the plan. 00:46:14.150 --> 00:46:15.470 You know how many miles that is? Yeah. 00:46:17.270 --> 00:46:22.990 Dublin to Kent Road is probably three or four. Yeah, Dublin to Kent is probably three, you're probably going to love four miles. 00:46:22.990 --> 00:46:46.080 I noticed more on the shortcut with all the extra traffic because I'm wanting to tell me that's starting to 00:46:46.080 --> 00:46:57.600 Well, and whatever we said today isn't just said for him, it's said for everybody coming forward. 00:46:57.600 --> 00:47:03.500 so he's only going four miles off of the state road. 00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:05.820 It would only apply to... 00:47:05.820 --> 00:47:07.620 But it only applies to township roads. 00:47:07.700 --> 00:47:15.560 But my point is, is that the next guy might be traveling all on township roads and his distance might be more. 00:47:15.560 --> 00:47:16.520 So just milk, though. 00:47:16.640 --> 00:47:18.820 It addresses the milk trucks. 00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:20.960 Only milk trucks. 00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:33.770 that's the pleasure of the committee. 00:47:33.770 --> 00:47:34.770 Can I ask you? 00:47:34.770 --> 00:47:35.770 Sure. 00:47:35.770 --> 00:47:42.990 Oh, I would like to see it's just maybe approved for one year and see how it goes and if it doesn't 00:47:42.990 --> 00:47:46.590 meet the need or we find there are additional problems, we can revisit it. 00:47:46.590 --> 00:47:53.510 So this permits for 120 days, but then it has to come back to this committee, as I understand. 00:47:53.510 --> 00:47:58.610 No, they could apply for another $120,000 without the approval of the claim. 00:47:59.350 --> 00:48:00.410 If you could go. 00:48:00.770 --> 00:48:03.170 Because there is a very important case. 00:48:03.910 --> 00:48:06.190 It's just the fee is tied to the house. 00:48:06.190 --> 00:48:07.230 Yes, it's close. 00:48:07.830 --> 00:48:07.970 Okay. 00:48:08.210 --> 00:48:09.690 And you have a permalusant. 00:48:10.050 --> 00:48:10.250 Right. 00:48:10.410 --> 00:48:11.250 That's how it works. 00:48:11.250 --> 00:48:22.470 Or does, so basically when I did the math, you're going to pay per annual to the county about $11,000, $11,000 or $12,000 permit your trucks. 00:48:22.810 --> 00:48:22.910 Okay. 00:48:23.510 --> 00:48:30.330 not to interrupt, but back to your point about the $150, is that on my end, we realistically only have two trucks a day down. 00:48:31.490 --> 00:48:38.150 So if from that perspective, $150, I'm not going to risk the $150 on my end. 00:48:38.250 --> 00:48:39.910 I'm going to pay the $11,000 up front. 00:48:40.970 --> 00:48:44.570 And then you actually only see on average two of those trucks go there. 00:48:44.570 --> 00:48:50.470 Yeah, my point wasn't, I think it's almost punitive, I guess is what I'm saying. 00:48:50.470 --> 00:49:20.470 it's not providing any relief for the damage to the roads it's not significant enough to solve that problem that's my issue with it so 150 or $10 it doesn't make a difference to the county side where it would impact you yes right I would prefer that every truck be 80,000 pounds and we just leave it at that and I'd be a happy boy but I know that's not reality 00:49:20.470 --> 00:49:32.710 And in motion, these are approved, to let it fail or scale on it. 00:49:32.710 --> 00:49:51.810 I like Sam's idea of, well, well, review the impact in a year, the policy, the policy effect of a year, come back and if they find that it needs to be revised significantly or revised. 00:49:51.810 --> 00:50:17.360 I'm going to make a motion to approve it because I think it will do some and also the load per axle a little bit. And I would like to see that be able to do it next year after a year's time or whatever a year. Make that motion. 00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:26.160 So I have a motion to approve the overpayment for one year, sectioned by yesterday, so is there any further discussion? 00:50:27.340 --> 00:50:45.960 Yes, I think it's just worth saying, I think we're, I feel we'd all be sympathetic to the price, yeah, it doesn't really do anything, but by the time we've raised it to a point where it would, then we've cut half the business, and we don't want to see that happen either, 00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:53.420 So, I think that's worth noting, you know, there's not a perfect solution in either direction. 00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:57.860 I think that's the best solution I can come up with. 00:50:58.040 --> 00:51:00.900 So, I thank the motions for Chairman Helms. 00:51:01.720 --> 00:51:03.840 I don't know that you need to put a time frame on it. 00:51:04.040 --> 00:51:06.340 You can just come back and revisit it in a year. 00:51:06.700 --> 00:51:07.880 That is the motion. 00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:14.440 But are you sunsetting it by having a one-year period to where it's going to end in a year? 00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:16.480 Is that your intent? 00:51:16.620 --> 00:51:18.860 No, otherwise, it's just going to continue. 00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:20.600 So we'll review it. 00:51:21.640 --> 00:51:24.140 There has to be an action to the one year. 00:51:24.380 --> 00:51:25.860 Something happens in one year. 00:51:26.380 --> 00:51:27.380 Yeah, I'm just reviewing. 00:51:30.410 --> 00:51:31.690 Well, maybe we take that. 00:51:32.290 --> 00:51:36.630 Maybe I'm going to amend my motion and take that review part off. 00:51:36.630 --> 00:51:41.630 And we just, as a chairman, we make a note of that. 00:51:41.850 --> 00:51:43.250 We still have that again next year. 00:51:43.250 --> 00:51:58.310 So for clarification, Chairman Helms, client, your sunset, and it's good for one year, I'll take the review part off, and then we, as a chairman, can bring that up next year to review it. 00:52:00.890 --> 00:52:01.410 Okay. 00:52:02.850 --> 00:52:04.230 I hope you're okay with that. 00:52:04.230 --> 00:52:07.010 I think I can make it in the calendar, too. 00:52:08.130 --> 00:52:10.550 Next May or whatever, just bring it up. 00:52:10.950 --> 00:52:11.630 Look at it. 00:52:11.950 --> 00:52:12.130 Yeah. 00:52:12.130 --> 00:52:15.890 Yeah, unless something comes up before, then we can do it earlier. 00:52:17.070 --> 00:52:19.390 If some issue pops up, we could review it earlier. 00:52:20.630 --> 00:52:21.850 Are you okay with that? 00:52:22.270 --> 00:52:24.370 Yeah, I'm okay with revise. 00:52:24.690 --> 00:52:26.590 So let's talk about that just for a moment. 00:52:26.770 --> 00:52:31.010 Can I be revoked at any time between now and one year from now? 00:52:32.310 --> 00:52:36.930 So that's the safety valve I guess you're looking for there. 00:52:39.730 --> 00:52:41.570 That's the safety valve we just added. 00:52:42.130 --> 00:52:45.950 I guess we can put that in there. 00:52:46.910 --> 00:52:47.870 It doesn't have to be. 00:52:48.010 --> 00:52:49.990 It's just the one where you have that. 00:52:49.990 --> 00:52:52.690 I can put that in there. 00:52:52.870 --> 00:52:57.330 I can amend my notion to have the revocation fraud that we want. 00:53:00.490 --> 00:53:01.310 That's your note. 00:53:01.510 --> 00:53:02.870 We can revoke at any time. 00:53:03.310 --> 00:53:07.910 Just to keep from being so messy, how about we just re-look at it? 00:53:07.910 --> 00:53:09.550 We'll pull it off your first and second. 00:53:09.550 --> 00:53:12.310 We're going to withdraw, first and second, and I'll restate your motion 00:53:12.310 --> 00:53:19.670 All right, so I'm going to make a motion to approve it as presented here with a clause in there to revoke it at any time 00:53:19.670 --> 00:53:20.950 Second 00:53:20.950 --> 00:53:26.750 So that would still take committee and county board action to revoke it 00:53:26.750 --> 00:53:28.070 Yeah, that's fine 00:53:28.070 --> 00:53:31.650 Then we have that conversation again 00:53:31.650 --> 00:53:34.650 I have just one more question 00:53:34.650 --> 00:53:41.930 Your expense for the fee, are you passing that, I'm assuming, on to whoever you're hauling for? 00:53:42.070 --> 00:53:46.330 You're just increasing your per mile charge or however you do that? 00:53:46.330 --> 00:53:55.730 We don't. It actually comes the other way. So we don't increase or decrease our rate to haul because we actually haul more. 00:53:56.490 --> 00:54:04.490 So then we do that. I don't want to chime in, but when you put something on there as far as the 00:54:04.490 --> 00:54:28.870 ability to revoke, say you say it's okay today and you revoke it tomorrow. Just me in particular, I have just invested hundreds and hundreds, close to a million, like millions of dollars in equipment that we're purchasing to do this. And so that's a little nerve-wracking on my end, which may be cancer-tier. 00:54:28.870 --> 00:54:32.310 I get it, yeah. 00:54:33.450 --> 00:54:35.090 May I ask one question? 00:54:35.310 --> 00:54:37.830 You talked about an expansion, right? 00:54:37.950 --> 00:54:41.290 But your customer just gone through a major expansion? 00:54:41.990 --> 00:54:42.710 New Ways or O.K. 00:54:42.790 --> 00:54:46.710 So there's more product to haul. 00:54:47.750 --> 00:54:48.910 Is that what you're saying? 00:54:48.910 --> 00:54:54.150 Their expansion was to make the product, I believe, no, quote, 00:54:54.150 --> 00:55:00.770 that don't work for any later, but it was to make the process of making their cheese more 00:55:00.770 --> 00:55:06.830 efficient, which included adding new intake for where we unload and all that kind of stuff. 00:55:07.350 --> 00:55:14.350 I mean, I can't speak for them as far as what, you know, five years down the road looks like 00:55:14.350 --> 00:55:15.290 or anything like that. 00:55:15.370 --> 00:55:17.730 That would have to be a conversation that you would have to have with them. 00:55:17.730 --> 00:55:44.650 But in the Midwest in general, triaxle tanks at 105,000 is, I mean, if you go to Wisconsin and it's, they're everywhere. And the reason being is it was, it's no different than anywhere else. It's hard to find drivers, quality drivers, safe drivers. And one way to eliminate that is to buy bigger tanks, all less loads, big jeans, less de-close. 00:55:44.650 --> 00:55:57.360 So it's a fairly struggle. It's not something that just happens all night, but that's obviously the goal for the discussion. 00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:13.180 Just one thing that, as the chairman already noted, it's not an individual action. Since it's a county board action, we wouldn't make a decision by ourselves. It would be all of the county that has to make that. 00:56:13.180 --> 00:56:19.240 So, it's not something that's just going to change instantaneously just because we woke up one morning. 00:56:19.340 --> 00:56:26.040 So, just so that we feel good about the decision, we all have to decide to do something different if we're going to do something different. 00:56:26.600 --> 00:56:29.000 That's where I am with making this decision. 00:56:29.600 --> 00:56:32.940 You can get a big answer to that boss in there, or else you can still be doing it. 00:56:33.160 --> 00:56:33.580 That's true. 00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:36.660 That's all I have. 00:56:38.220 --> 00:56:39.460 Any final comments? 00:56:39.460 --> 00:56:43.360 Okay, seeing that, all those in favor say aye. 00:56:43.620 --> 00:56:43.980 Aye. 00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:45.680 Any of all those? 00:56:46.560 --> 00:56:47.380 All those in favor say aye. 00:56:48.600 --> 00:56:49.180 Thank you, John. 00:56:53.920 --> 00:57:03.790 So we have HD 2613, the Cedarville Road project. 00:57:03.970 --> 00:57:04.250 Okay. 00:57:04.370 --> 00:57:05.050 Heels and so? 00:57:05.230 --> 00:57:06.070 Okay, six. 00:57:06.070 --> 00:57:16.550 You can sign an agreement with Helms Civil for the construction of Cedarville Road for $436,501.06. 00:57:19.630 --> 00:57:27.390 I make a motion to approve the debt to Helms for 436,501, seconded by Mr. Monroe. 00:57:27.910 --> 00:57:28.710 Any discussion? 00:57:31.110 --> 00:57:32.890 Stand down, all those from there say aye. 00:57:33.070 --> 00:57:33.270 Aye. 00:57:34.110 --> 00:57:35.070 Motion is approved. 00:57:37.070 --> 00:57:38.070 Take it right on. 00:57:38.830 --> 00:57:39.530 All as well. 00:57:39.930 --> 00:57:40.450 Thanks. 00:57:40.830 --> 00:57:41.510 I appreciate it. 00:57:42.090 --> 00:57:43.090 Thank you. 00:57:43.090 --> 00:58:16.680 So you just started the invite on time? 00:58:16.680 --> 00:59:02.490 Yep, the next question is for a contract with Helm Devil for $383,963.25. 00:59:03.290 --> 00:59:08.090 Bill, Pastor, John, motion to approve by Mr. Newton. 00:59:08.090 --> 00:59:09.230 Second by? 00:59:09.230 --> 00:59:10.490 Second by Mr. Jogerst. 00:59:10.490 --> 00:59:13.010 Any discussion? 00:59:13.010 --> 00:59:16.170 Both and davis say aye. 00:59:16.170 --> 00:59:18.310 Motion is approved. 00:59:18.310 --> 00:59:19.770 Second. 00:59:19.770 --> 00:59:28.550 Board member of Sings Lindsey Bertrandもう 00:59:28.550 --> 00:59:35.450 and I was noAKNEL Hercia Doniz��를 00:59:35.850 --> 00:59:40.610 It's a great job here, the public, the state. 00:59:48.000 --> 01:00:17.980 Thank you. 01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:23.940 You know what, but I'm not sure you look good, but I'll be, I'll see the time, I'm not saying 01:00:23.940 --> 01:00:34.720 to me, that's why now, I've seen it, they're on the ground, that's the fun part, watching 01:00:34.720 --> 01:00:42.540 it build up first, and then go ride, the boat is always moving like this, yeah, did anybody 01:00:42.540 --> 01:00:44.660 I'm trying to get my wheel on 01:00:44.660 --> 01:00:46.460 I love yesterday 01:00:46.460 --> 01:00:47.280 I got one 01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:47.800 Oh, it's 01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:49.560 There's a room right here 01:00:49.560 --> 01:00:50.460 They're buying it 01:00:50.460 --> 01:00:51.680 Can we stay nice 01:00:51.680 --> 01:00:52.480 Oh, it's cool 01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:53.620 Yeah, I wouldn't last thought 01:00:53.620 --> 01:00:54.240 I'm laughing 01:00:54.240 --> 01:00:54.600 But it's 01:00:54.600 --> 01:00:57.420 It's not my 01:00:57.420 --> 01:00:59.000 It's all right 01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:00.180 It's tough yesterday 01:01:00.180 --> 01:01:03.040 All right 01:01:03.040 --> 01:01:06.260 Moving on to HD 26 01:01:06.260 --> 01:01:08.400 This is four 01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:09.540 Five-Horn and Road 01:01:09.540 --> 01:01:11.720 At the Canadian National Great Crossing 01:01:11.720 --> 01:01:16.800 to Fisher Excavating for $18,983. 01:01:18.860 --> 01:01:22.500 I have a motion to approve by Mr. Jogerst, just seconded by Mr. Monroe. 01:01:23.380 --> 01:01:24.160 Any discussion? 01:01:24.980 --> 01:01:25.280 Yeah. 01:01:25.860 --> 01:01:29.400 I have a motion to approve. 01:01:29.400 --> 01:03:05.400 We have HD 2616, the 01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:09.900 Grant for the Planning and Design of the Rock of Oxlain Road. 01:03:10.640 --> 01:03:17.520 Yeah, this is a Rural Tribal Assistance Grant for $523,915. 01:03:18.180 --> 01:03:22.560 It's 100% funding for the Planning and Design of the Roundabout. 01:03:23.260 --> 01:03:27.820 And it was, it was a, it's a very good grant to get 100% funding. 01:03:27.820 --> 01:03:35.900 We were one of two agencies in the state that got a RTA grant. 01:03:36.420 --> 01:03:41.220 Boone County got one for three bridge projects and we got ours for this roundabout. 01:03:41.540 --> 01:03:43.560 So what was the amount of? 01:03:45.780 --> 01:03:46.860 523,000. 01:03:47.120 --> 01:03:51.980 And the grant can only be used for engineering, for pre-engineering and can't be used for construction. 01:03:51.980 --> 01:04:08.160 so this is the planning and design and it's federal project so it'll take a couple years to go through the whole process but you have to look at the, all the great flags you have to answer but it's worth it. 01:04:08.160 --> 01:04:19.680 A motion by Mr. Jogerst to approve 2616. Second, Mr. Maddero, any discussion? 01:04:19.680 --> 01:04:29.440 is there any, was there a, there, there's no resolution, let's just, it'll be, um, first, uh, 01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:31.740 I believe Scott, in the week, did you get to the, you know, who signs? 01:04:31.740 --> 01:04:35.680 I'm sitting on my side at four groups. 01:04:35.680 --> 01:04:39.740 Yes, we're good. 01:04:40.940 --> 01:04:45.260 Did say I approve on the agenda, so I should make sure. 01:04:45.540 --> 01:04:46.320 Sorry, yes. 01:04:47.140 --> 01:04:48.960 Sorry, it should have been probably said sorry. 01:04:49.200 --> 01:04:49.500 I'm sorry. 01:04:50.420 --> 01:04:52.180 Take more than that to get out here. 01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:58.860 Okay, we're down to 9.0, the comments from the committee. 01:04:58.860 --> 01:05:00.880 Anybody have anything they'd like to add? 01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:08.880 No. Item 10.1 is the adjournment. Do I have a motion to adjourn? 01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:09.880 So moved. 01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:13.880 Moved by Mr. Newton, seconded by it. 01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:14.880 No. 01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:18.880 Any discussion? All those in favor? 01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:19.880 Aye. 01:05:19.880 --> 01:05:22.880 Thank you all. 01:05:22.880 --> 01:05:27.700 Thank you very much.