WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:18.760 Yes, I call the meeting to order, call for prayer, I hope I thank you for praying this evening and seeing young people as we discussed how to do this. 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:24.040 to be with everyone that's alive and alive in the United States. 00:00:24.040 --> 00:00:28.840 All right. 00:00:29.420 --> 00:00:31.820 I will approve of tonight's agenda. 00:00:32.300 --> 00:00:34.600 So we'll approve by Mr. Busker. 00:00:34.780 --> 00:00:35.760 We'll second it. 00:00:36.040 --> 00:00:37.840 Second by Ms. Hayes. 00:00:38.760 --> 00:00:39.420 All in favor? 00:00:39.760 --> 00:00:39.980 Aye. 00:00:40.300 --> 00:00:40.900 All in favor? 00:00:41.740 --> 00:00:42.060 Aye. 00:00:42.060 --> 00:00:48.740 So we'll approve of meeting minutes for August 11, 2020. 00:00:48.760 --> 00:00:53.040 4-6, been moved by Ms. Hayes? 00:00:53.260 --> 00:00:53.580 No. 00:00:54.440 --> 00:00:54.880 Lawfer. 00:00:55.020 --> 00:00:55.440 Lawfer. 00:00:57.220 --> 00:00:58.540 Second by Ms. Hayes. 00:00:58.620 --> 00:00:59.840 Second by Ms. Hayes. 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:01.440 Any questions? 00:01:02.260 --> 00:01:02.840 All in favor. 00:01:03.440 --> 00:01:03.920 Aye. 00:01:03.980 --> 00:01:04.540 All in favor. 00:01:05.100 --> 00:01:05.360 Aye. 00:01:05.360 --> 00:01:07.040 I have a public comment. 00:01:07.700 --> 00:01:08.560 Let's see, huh? 00:01:09.180 --> 00:01:11.760 Okay, report to committee, sheriff department. 00:01:12.100 --> 00:01:13.500 I don't know if we have anything tonight. 00:01:13.740 --> 00:01:16.980 Everyone, as you know, we're working through a pretty good investigation. 00:01:16.980 --> 00:01:46.960 in the Pro City of the vehicle versus the cows. We have one fatality so far. One is a critical condition and the other isn't stable. And just before I got here earlier, this does not pertain to us other than our fire community and some of our guys to help at the hospital. There was a bus rollover on 78 north of 20, a junior high football team. I know that the four ambulances have come to Freeport. If anyone went to Galena, we're still monitoring that. 00:01:46.980 --> 00:01:51.660 right now, but we're helping out the hospital if they need anything with the parents and family 00:01:51.660 --> 00:01:55.300 helping. Other than that, we have anything from the sheriff's office for this month. It's 00:01:55.300 --> 00:01:56.820 been another good month. 00:01:56.820 --> 00:01:59.080 What school bestestop? 00:01:59.080 --> 00:02:08.700 Skills Mountain. Skills Mountain Junior High Football that was heading to Stockton E 00:02:08.700 --> 00:02:12.760 I'll move a little fast. I have to back up with four Florence Fiance. 00:02:12.760 --> 00:02:15.460 Make a motion to approve the claims. 00:02:15.460 --> 00:02:16.460 Second. 00:02:16.980 --> 00:02:22.480 I didn't give you a mouth. Oh! Sign it. 00:02:23.140 --> 00:02:33.940 Tell me properly, $56,462.79, but with safety is $118,018.80. 00:02:35.540 --> 00:02:44.660 We're moved by Ms. Hayes. Second by Mr. Busker. Any questions? All in favor? All opposed? 00:02:44.660 --> 00:02:47.580 Isaac, and I will be moved off. 00:02:49.260 --> 00:02:51.240 Emergency Management, ADC. 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:54.740 Really nothing to have, other than we've just got in this report. 00:02:55.260 --> 00:02:56.260 You can request. 00:02:57.720 --> 00:02:58.420 Thank you. 00:02:59.780 --> 00:03:00.980 County, Kwan. 00:03:02.200 --> 00:03:04.080 The only thing I have this month is our statistics. 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:07.260 We had 34 deaths in the county for the month of August. 00:03:07.640 --> 00:03:09.080 We went to eight. 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:10.600 One autopsy. 00:03:11.060 --> 00:03:12.340 We signed 13 of them. 00:03:12.480 --> 00:03:13.800 The doctors signed 21. 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:19.080 one, 30 are national causes, one suicide, one accidental, and two are still pending. 00:03:19.820 --> 00:03:20.000 Okay. 00:03:21.160 --> 00:03:21.760 Any questions? 00:03:23.140 --> 00:03:23.820 Thank you. 00:03:25.160 --> 00:03:25.700 All right. 00:03:25.700 --> 00:03:32.680 Let's go on to an old business review and approval of proposed fiscal year 27 budget. 00:03:34.160 --> 00:03:35.360 Emergency management. 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:41.100 I'm doing your own premise. 00:03:41.100 --> 00:04:12.550 I think the only thing that was in question were the whether or not the supplemental, sorry, whether or not the supplemental request was going to be included somehow in the budget or it was going to be a full supplemental request. So since that time, Mr. Counsel has removed that the truck as a supplemental request. So this was, I believe, passed last month as is. I don't think there's any 00:04:12.550 --> 00:04:29.460 I have a question, so there's no truck anywhere, there's no truck coming in during a, okay, thank 00:04:29.460 --> 00:04:30.460 you. 00:04:30.460 --> 00:04:32.460 Any questions? 00:04:32.460 --> 00:04:45.260 I was already approved, Mr. Bush, last month, wasn't it? 00:04:45.260 --> 00:05:10.560 Okay, so my questions for the coroner were about his supplemental requests and whether 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:14.220 or not they could be included in the budget. 00:05:14.220 --> 00:05:29.100 So as you can see, the coroner fund is outside of the coroner fees and a few state grants, it's the majority of it is funded by public safety. 00:05:30.320 --> 00:05:41.040 So that initial requirement based on the expenses, the increase is like almost 28% based on what was requested on the expense side. 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:50.220 But looking back at public safety as it stands right now, the only piece that's kind of missing would be health insurance. 00:05:51.300 --> 00:05:58.980 And from what we've learned through Diamond Brothers, the health insurance increase is not as bad as we thought it was going to be. 00:05:59.060 --> 00:06:04.820 We don't have exact numbers, but we were estimating around 18 to 20 percent increase. 00:06:04.820 --> 00:06:23.120 So I think that surplus of $105,000 will hold true So as far as the capital fund, this is where all of the supplemental requests are paid. 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:38.180 and that fund is funded either directly by the general fund or through taxes that are that usually go to the general fund that are being deferred to the capital fund. 00:06:39.400 --> 00:06:53.060 So in order to alleviate some stress off of the general fund, I asked the coroner if it would be OK if we would put these one time expenses back into his budget since his budget is paid for. 00:06:53.120 --> 00:07:39.150 out of the public safety unit to alleviate our stress off the general fund. So if I go back to, so the coroners are on top. So one for 1,900 board boots, the backboard is 450. The stretcher is 1,200, for 6,500. 00:07:39.150 --> 00:08:01.670 So he, it's my understanding after having a conversation with a foreigner that these were one-time expenses, he put in a supplemental request as categorizing them as a one-time thing. It's not going to be included in his budget for next year. 00:08:03.450 --> 00:08:16.410 Like I, excuse me, like Mr. Bush and I had talked, I didn't want to inflate my budget line items for a one-time purchase. This was my first time getting a budget with the county, so I put them under a supplemental thinking they was just, 00:08:16.670 --> 00:08:45.670 that's how you did one-time purchases I wasn't quite fair on that so that's why I had entered it that way to not inflate the line item more than I had to but after our conversation because I didn't realize it was a different fund when you did a supplemental request versus a line item that's how we had talked about just moving it back to the equipment line item for that one-time purchase and now the co-ordid thing that he's asking me didn't publish it yes so 00:08:45.670 --> 00:08:57.850 So it will, we will have to increase the transfer, as I was saying before, so right now, so last 00:08:57.850 --> 00:09:05.610 year it was $166,000, this year it will be $213,000, it will be increased to cover, we'll supplement 00:09:05.610 --> 00:09:14.030 our request then. Similar situation for the probation department, they have to purchase bulletproof 00:09:14.030 --> 00:09:17.550 the best for their officers, and it's a one-time purchase. 00:09:17.770 --> 00:09:23.490 The line item's inflated from $3,000, I believe, to $15,000 just for one year, and then it'll 00:09:23.490 --> 00:09:24.190 go back down. 00:09:25.230 --> 00:09:27.950 So kind of same situation here, so keep going. 00:09:29.370 --> 00:09:30.210 Any questions? 00:09:32.700 --> 00:09:33.560 Any questions? 00:09:37.800 --> 00:09:39.680 This is a one-time purchase, perhaps? 00:09:40.340 --> 00:09:41.860 Yes, it's a one-time purchase for that. 00:09:41.860 --> 00:09:42.060 Okay. 00:09:43.680 --> 00:09:45.000 Well, I didn't say any motion. 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:47.480 Can I make a motion to approve? 00:09:47.740 --> 00:09:48.040 Second. 00:09:48.040 --> 00:09:53.040 Seconded by Ms. A, seconded by Ms. B. Foster, I have to pay him any questions? 00:09:55.760 --> 00:09:56.660 All in favor? 00:09:57.300 --> 00:09:57.600 Aye. 00:09:58.000 --> 00:09:58.760 All opposed? 00:09:58.760 --> 00:10:00.760 Moved, I said 00:10:05.380 --> 00:10:06.840 Moved, to be... 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:09.380 Alright, thank you. 00:10:09.380 --> 00:10:10.940 Yeah, we should... 00:10:10.940 --> 00:10:12.080 Could I do that on my... 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:13.020 I didn't get that right now. 00:10:13.020 --> 00:10:14.140 Okay. 00:10:14.140 --> 00:10:15.460 So... 00:10:15.460 --> 00:10:20.500 Alright, thank you. 00:10:20.500 --> 00:10:25.660 Okay! We'll move on to the chair. 00:10:25.660 --> 00:10:27.620 Does anyone want me to speak about anything? 00:10:27.620 --> 00:10:37.580 I looked over at your budget again, and I do not have any functions. 00:10:39.020 --> 00:10:39.580 That's true. 00:10:44.460 --> 00:10:46.540 It didn't look like it. 00:10:47.340 --> 00:10:47.700 None. 00:10:48.900 --> 00:10:50.360 Okay, anything at most? 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:52.860 Um, so you're doing when, which, but you're all. 00:10:53.480 --> 00:10:56.660 Oh, yeah, okay, we do it all, don't do it all. 00:10:56.660 --> 00:10:57.280 on that time. 00:10:59.560 --> 00:11:02.160 Is it okay to do it all at one time or do it all at once? 00:11:02.620 --> 00:11:10.200 You can do it all at once if there's no questions or comments. 00:11:11.800 --> 00:11:13.320 Put it all together and go. 00:11:13.700 --> 00:11:15.200 I move to it all at once. 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:17.300 I move to it all at once. 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:17.960 Second. 00:11:18.220 --> 00:11:18.520 Second. 00:11:18.520 --> 00:11:19.500 Second by Ms. Hayes. 00:11:20.660 --> 00:11:21.300 All in favor? 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:22.180 Aye. 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:23.260 All opposed? 00:11:24.540 --> 00:11:24.900 Aye. 00:11:24.900 --> 00:11:25.300 It's out. 00:11:25.300 --> 00:11:30.500 And there's no need for new business 00:11:30.500 --> 00:11:33.900 Wait a minute, sure 00:11:33.900 --> 00:11:46.730 The supplements, all I'm looking for is, again, five squad cars 00:11:46.730 --> 00:11:49.830 I've listed it out in the supplements, the ones that need to be replaced 00:11:49.830 --> 00:11:54.970 We actually have, I believe it was eight, that are over that $140,000 mark 00:11:54.970 --> 00:12:00.390 As I explained a little bit into my supplement, with the new Tahoe's we're hoping to get 00:12:00.390 --> 00:12:05.750 at least three more, maybe four more years out of those, which was not the case with the chargers. 00:12:05.850 --> 00:12:10.890 It seemed like the chargers were good for about $120,000 to $130,000 along with the trucks. 00:12:11.070 --> 00:12:16.790 We're finding out that the Tahos are a lot more robust and they're actually meant for patrol vehicles. 00:12:17.550 --> 00:12:24.390 The other thing that I liked, the reason I picked the Tahoe over the other ones, is the other ones had high-performance engines in them. 00:12:25.290 --> 00:12:28.690 I'm doing away with the chasing stuff. 00:12:28.690 --> 00:12:58.510 we don't need to be driving crazy all over the county. Bad guys are bad guys. We do have to do our job, but we do not need to be putting, first of all, the deputies in jeopardy by driving like that and the public. Also, so the Tahoe's will be a little bit less wear and tear on the engines, and it would be a little bit lower speed, which I think is kind of evident on why we're not having the mechanical problems that we had. 00:12:58.690 --> 00:13:05.890 with the trucks and the chargers. So with that expense, I do realize that they're up quite a bit. 00:13:06.410 --> 00:13:10.970 I believe a charger and a truck is somewhere around $38,000 to $40,000 for just a vehicle. 00:13:11.590 --> 00:13:22.570 These are a little bit more, but hopefully the additional three years to four years that we're going to get out of them, up to $200,000 miles over the $120,000 to $130,000, I hope that offsets that cost a little bit. 00:13:22.570 --> 00:13:30.700 So in the question 00:13:30.700 --> 00:13:38.420 You asked me for five, how many did you get last? 00:13:39.060 --> 00:13:39.460 Three 00:13:39.460 --> 00:13:47.410 Okay, we'll come back to your second request 00:13:47.410 --> 00:13:53.010 Oh, I forgot I did that 00:13:53.010 --> 00:13:55.210 So in the courtrooms 00:13:55.210 --> 00:13:58.030 I've talked about this, I believe 00:13:58.030 --> 00:14:01.030 three years ago, maybe four years ago 00:14:01.030 --> 00:14:01.950 when I was the chief 00:14:01.950 --> 00:14:28.830 and we have two core rooms that do not have the benches and I believe, Mr. Bush, we looked at those, right? I showed you how they were cracking. So the way they were manufactured, they were pressed wood that were stained and there's a lot of cracking on the edges, it would just take, I'll make this too public, but it would just take the wrong person to sit on one of those edges where the benches could collapse. They do need to be replaced. 00:14:28.830 --> 00:14:34.830 the way I set this up is there's a couple different ways that we can do it all at once is a cheaper price 00:14:34.830 --> 00:14:40.890 because then the people are only there one time because there's a setup fee for all their equipment 00:14:40.890 --> 00:14:47.650 and all that so they would do both at a discounted price otherwise we could do one courtroom as opposed 00:14:47.650 --> 00:14:52.770 to the other and there's a significant difference between the two courtrooms courtroom one is smaller 00:14:52.770 --> 00:15:22.610 more than courtroom four. So courtroom four has more square footage of benches. So we can divide that out or, I mean, it's up to the board, obviously, but we could, I think we need to do that sooner than later. I believe we got the first one done five years ago, and maybe the second one was done the year after that. So the two that we replaced are about four years old now, and they're holding up well, and they're the exact same 00:15:22.610 --> 00:15:26.290 ones that are in the county boardroom, so you can see those are solid wood, so they're going 00:15:26.290 --> 00:15:34.530 to last forever. That's the reason that that is on here, right? And if you're going to ask 00:15:34.530 --> 00:15:41.070 me what my priority is, obviously, my squad cars are a priority for the citizens and second 00:15:41.070 --> 00:15:51.610 the courthouse. But I could also argue that the courthouse is separate because I don't 00:15:51.610 --> 00:16:00.770 have direct usage of that as judicial, where that's where the gallery sits, the people watching 00:16:00.770 --> 00:16:04.550 the trials, the people that are there waiting for court, that's where they sit. 00:16:08.150 --> 00:16:18.630 And if somebody was sitting on that row and it did collapse, there would be more expense. 00:16:18.630 --> 00:16:19.390 Oh, yeah. 00:16:19.390 --> 00:16:29.310 And that's what I was going at, too. 00:16:29.310 --> 00:16:39.610 Yeah, I mean, somebody had to get up sitting on these benches with the RMB, and it's going to be back a month. 00:16:43.830 --> 00:16:44.390 Okay. 00:16:44.390 --> 00:16:52.730 Okay, so as committee, we have to prioritize which one we need, why is the supplemental? 00:16:54.230 --> 00:17:03.170 There's $708,000 in capital funding for the entirety of all the supplemental requests throughout all the departments. 00:17:03.250 --> 00:17:04.450 All the departments, wow. 00:17:04.450 --> 00:17:07.890 Unless Adrian disagrees with them. 00:17:09.050 --> 00:17:09.730 He's correct. 00:17:09.730 --> 00:17:23.130 Okay, so, the minimum, what's your thoughts? 00:17:27.190 --> 00:17:28.970 I, can I, can I? 00:17:29.050 --> 00:17:29.670 Yes, me. 00:17:29.670 --> 00:17:38.230 I say the minimum right now would be three, three trucks and one truck. 00:17:47.090 --> 00:17:58.660 Mr. Busker, 67 per, that's both courtrooms, right? 00:17:59.500 --> 00:18:08.860 Yeah, so it's 36.5 per courtroom one, 38.7 per courtroom four. 00:18:11.860 --> 00:18:15.960 And do you have a price if they would come back separately for those? 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:29.200 That is the, that's the, so together 67, option two would be individual at 36, five, and 38, so it's at 74, 75, two, three. 00:18:34.040 --> 00:18:43.060 I would say, do all that wants them done with it. 00:18:43.420 --> 00:18:44.120 All that wants? 00:18:45.040 --> 00:18:46.460 All of them. 00:18:47.120 --> 00:18:48.220 That's just, oh, okay. 00:18:48.220 --> 00:18:50.940 I would agree with that. 00:18:51.100 --> 00:18:52.180 You know, get all inventions. 00:18:55.120 --> 00:18:59.940 And how many squads do you have that are close to that 140 mark? 00:19:00.060 --> 00:19:01.180 Eight or over that. 00:19:01.320 --> 00:19:02.060 Eight or over that. 00:19:03.520 --> 00:19:07.660 Do we know what other supplement requests have come in? 00:19:08.900 --> 00:19:12.560 Do we know what we're up against with things that might be? 00:19:12.840 --> 00:19:13.800 There's been a few. 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:15.140 They're all right here. 00:19:15.140 --> 00:19:22.620 The board has access to all these, excluding the 10,000 that the coroner removed, that's 00:19:22.620 --> 00:19:24.020 the total that we're looking at. 00:19:25.020 --> 00:19:26.140 1.9. 00:19:31.170 --> 00:19:32.970 That's almost two-thirds of it. 00:19:33.810 --> 00:19:34.790 It's requested. 00:19:39.210 --> 00:19:41.810 It's definitely not guaranteed because we don't have the money. 00:19:41.810 --> 00:19:56.970 Now far as the offenses though, Jim, if you think we're wrong, is there any way, any means that you can be able to come up with the other half of the money? Like to try to work my magic? Yes. 00:19:56.970 --> 00:20:28.400 Can I work my magic? Yes. You could give me the 38.7. I could spread out, well, I can't speak for the company, but maybe I can spread out the 36.5 over like three payments for next year. 00:20:33.730 --> 00:20:39.300 Okay. Okay. 00:20:39.300 --> 00:21:08.990 As far as the cost, you know, and you got three dashes, three, yes, what did you say? 00:21:09.490 --> 00:21:11.710 I said a minimum of three, you think covered? 00:21:12.710 --> 00:21:19.690 I mean, I'd love to be able to cover all five, but depending on how the other ones are coming in, 00:21:19.690 --> 00:21:35.590 if they can, if they can be flexible, then they need us to be flexible as well. I mean, a million dollars of it is for a row, is for Route 75. 00:21:38.650 --> 00:21:48.400 So we're only, if you take, well, I can't guess if you take that out, but all the other requests are $900 and some thousand. 00:21:49.120 --> 00:21:54.250 So we're two-thirds of that in this right here. 00:21:54.710 --> 00:22:11.300 Sheriff, I understand this conversation you and I had yesterday, sir, your department is 24-7. 00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:12.420 Yep. 00:22:12.800 --> 00:22:20.980 We're the only office in Stevens County that's 24-7-365. 00:22:20.980 --> 00:22:29.330 Don't know that you get a call in the time of day, but, uh, financial-wise 00:22:29.330 --> 00:22:35.120 What would three times be? 00:22:35.960 --> 00:22:36.860 What would it be? 00:22:36.980 --> 00:22:38.360 About $300,000 00:22:38.360 --> 00:22:53.400 $300,000 00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:54.080 $300,000 00:22:54.080 --> 00:23:02.120 $300,000 00:23:02.120 --> 00:23:13.320 How many do you post your house, Devin? 00:23:15.140 --> 00:23:17.340 Right around $45,000 00:23:17.380 --> 00:23:27.200 Now, let me take that back because you can't, our armored vehicle, I think it's 42, 42. 00:23:41.540 --> 00:23:43.380 Ten vehicles per shift there. 00:23:46.570 --> 00:23:53.250 It's four vehicles, or five vehicles per shift, four vehicles per shift, four vehicles for investigation. 00:23:55.410 --> 00:24:00.850 I think it would be five vehicles per shift if you do the crime suppression and four vehicles for, 00:24:00.850 --> 00:24:17.430 So that's 24 just working deputies and then we've got four transport vehicles, one for the jail, one for corrections, and then two cars for pickups. 00:24:18.710 --> 00:24:23.770 So as I said, that 30 right there put down a lot of utilities right now. 00:24:23.850 --> 00:24:27.890 I think we only have one utility at this point and two that do not work at all. 00:24:27.890 --> 00:24:30.730 that are just waiting to be traded in on the next two. 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:35.720 Has Cohen even gotten new last year? 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:36.240 Three. 00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:36.840 Three. 00:24:45.060 --> 00:24:47.240 When you say last year, Mr. Bush, you said last year. 00:24:47.300 --> 00:24:49.240 Do you mean last fiscal year or this year? 00:24:49.320 --> 00:24:50.160 Last fiscal year. 00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:50.880 Last fiscal year. 00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:52.240 So 25 or 26? 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:52.560 26. 00:24:53.360 --> 00:24:53.800 26. 00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:54.560 26. 00:24:54.620 --> 00:24:55.300 So this year? 00:24:55.860 --> 00:24:56.080 Yeah. 00:24:56.300 --> 00:24:56.660 Okay. 00:24:57.520 --> 00:24:57.740 All right. 00:24:58.640 --> 00:25:00.140 Well, let me say that again. 00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:01.740 I've been approved for three. 00:25:01.940 --> 00:25:02.760 I haven't gotten, yeah. 00:25:02.940 --> 00:25:05.080 That's the bid opening that we're doing. 00:25:05.080 --> 00:25:11.580 17th, or the 19th, 16th, or when is it, 16th, whatever, because I know it's in September. 00:25:17.420 --> 00:25:25.580 Your wish and your wisdom, me and me. 00:25:25.580 --> 00:25:54.100 The idea, but I'm thinking financially, we're wise, can't even, and one, and one, 00:25:54.100 --> 00:26:05.260 I will talk to the company and see what we can do. 00:26:05.260 --> 00:26:18.940 As far as committee-wise, we could recommend three cars, but we have to come out and find us. 00:26:31.690 --> 00:26:38.250 I mean, we're at $1.9 million. We have to get to $700,000 as a whole board. 00:26:40.530 --> 00:26:41.850 Say that again, Lynette. 00:26:41.850 --> 00:26:45.530 We have $101.9 million requested. 00:26:46.050 --> 00:26:50.330 We have to get all the way down to $750,000, which is what our budget is. 00:26:51.350 --> 00:26:57.530 So it's kind of like everyone's going to have to give something somewhere. 00:26:59.130 --> 00:27:06.230 We can't just expect things just not to happen because we have to, everyone's got to give a little. 00:27:06.230 --> 00:27:31.410 Bill. And Sam will have the answer. Sam, we're talking about the new tacos for the Sheriff's Department, 00:27:31.410 --> 00:27:43.650 and the sheriff is requesting five, 513, almost 514,000. Our supplemental request for the whole 00:27:43.650 --> 00:27:55.350 county board is 1.9 million. We have $750,000 to spend. 708. 708? That's even worse. So seven is 00:27:55.350 --> 00:28:29.390 or $700,000. So we have to essentially cut two-thirds of it out. Again, my girl, I'm not being. And how do we do that? So I'm saying, you know, if we can cut out $200,000, if we go down to three cars instead of the five, that would be, I believe, acceptable flexibility to the greater good. 00:28:29.390 --> 00:28:35.220 Do they give you a better deal if you're buying three versus four? 00:28:35.220 --> 00:28:35.580 Of vehicles? 00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:36.160 No. 00:28:36.300 --> 00:28:36.480 No. 00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:47.660 So, what's the total supplemental amount we think we have in the spending? 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:50.820 Kind of wired a bunch of spend, $708,000. 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:57.600 And requests of $1.9, almost $2 million. 00:28:59.980 --> 00:29:08.820 I don't think you're equipped to make that decision until you get to finance, but that's just my opinion. 00:29:08.820 --> 00:29:30.380 Well, I do, Mr. Busker, I feel we would have wanted everybody to review all the supplement requests by now, so that you can get a global picture of what the expenditures are looking like for each department and prioritize those to go to finance. 00:29:30.380 --> 00:29:55.740 they don't have to be passed tonight, you don't have to, I mean, it's September, come back to the committee in October, I think they're on finance in October, throw the board in November, but again, the thought will be by that time, everybody will have a very clear picture as to what the total requests are for each department. 00:29:55.740 --> 00:30:20.800 what the requests are for each department and think about priorities as far as, you know, do you prioritize public safety? Do you prioritize repairs to roads? All of them. And that's what finance will ultimately do. So regardless of what you pass out of this committee, finance is going to get the full request with the recommendation by the Oversight Committee. 00:30:20.800 --> 00:30:36.360 So you can say one spot card tonight, the initial request is going to go to finance for the five, the recommendation one, and I'm not advocating for that, I'm just using that as an example. 00:30:38.360 --> 00:30:39.820 I'm just on our mind here. 00:30:40.820 --> 00:30:41.340 Sure. 00:30:42.540 --> 00:30:49.880 I think, yeah, this is what Bali should definitely give its opinion on what it thinks. 00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:51.320 Do you want oversight? 00:30:54.140 --> 00:30:58.980 What I did mention, even though we recommend three, you still got to come out and find out. 00:31:07.080 --> 00:31:08.340 Can I ask this? 00:31:08.660 --> 00:31:09.400 Can I ask this? 00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:13.380 How much is the total amount of supplements that have been requested thus far? 00:31:13.840 --> 00:31:14.320 Two million. 00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:15.240 Two million. 00:31:15.900 --> 00:31:16.500 Wow. 00:31:16.500 --> 00:31:16.620 Wow. 00:31:16.620 --> 00:31:16.980 Wow. 00:31:16.980 --> 00:31:24.100 Okay 00:31:24.100 --> 00:31:27.940 The bulk of it is actually going to add a couple of words 00:31:27.940 --> 00:31:32.600 Oh, oh, fairs, roads 00:31:32.600 --> 00:31:33.140 Oh, yeah 00:31:33.140 --> 00:31:42.300 So, what's your recommendation? 00:31:42.300 --> 00:31:53.360 I'm going to ask you, Mr. Chairman, did you go ahead and pass the budget, first of all, but I know I had 00:31:53.360 --> 00:31:59.660 We took care of the payroll, and it was the manager of the phone, you need that, but not the shares 00:31:59.660 --> 00:32:02.260 Yeah, we did do the shares, yeah 00:32:02.260 --> 00:32:14.020 My recommendation is three cars, half of the 00:32:14.020 --> 00:32:20.720 with the Sheriff's Department possibly being able to pick up the other half of the benches. 00:32:26.820 --> 00:32:29.790 Mr. Boss? 00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:49.980 Yeah, I'd still like to, you know, just be on the safety side of somebody sitting on a bench and then coming back after if it breaks, you know, I'd like to see, you know, if he has a way of making it work, I'd like to see all the benches prepared, but I'm thinking, you know, 00:32:49.980 --> 00:33:13.740 So, if it's just, if it's going to go, if the ask is going to go for five cars, you know, I think minimum, minimum three, just if there's already eight of them that are over that mileage mark, because they're not easy miles on those vehicles. I think three, three would be the minimum I would recommend. 00:33:13.740 --> 00:33:42.040 I'm thinking three vehicles, but can you, if you want the other two, can you carry it over into your next year's budget to get them ahead of time, or no, this will be for next year's budget. 00:33:42.040 --> 00:34:10.360 I won't get up until I guess following what the following year that oh then I'll probably be back up to nine or ten vehicles that are over there orange and you're sitting up there with six vehicles over 100,000 miles 00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:10.860 Sorry 00:34:10.860 --> 00:34:28.080 How many miles average a year does each year 00:34:28.080 --> 00:34:29.420 $33,000 a year 00:34:29.420 --> 00:34:31.700 $32,000 00:34:31.700 --> 00:34:37.180 So 00:34:37.180 --> 00:34:55.010 Sam 00:34:55.010 --> 00:34:59.460 Okay, well, thank you, Sam 00:34:59.460 --> 00:35:01.520 How are we done with leasing vehicles? 00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:03.160 We've never 00:35:03.160 --> 00:35:05.460 We've only had one leased vehicle that we paid for 00:35:05.460 --> 00:35:06.920 which is not my watch 00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:12.520 and that was for the transport vehicle at the courthouse, and we paid that off. 00:35:12.600 --> 00:35:14.260 We got no lease vehicles and the sheriff's on this. 00:35:15.420 --> 00:35:15.760 I'm sure. 00:35:15.900 --> 00:35:21.240 What's the possibility of us financing those vehicles over five years rather than paying 00:35:21.240 --> 00:35:21.640 a salary? 00:35:22.080 --> 00:35:25.020 Two years is all we have because of the law. 00:35:25.220 --> 00:35:28.160 By statute, you can only finance it alone for two years. 00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:29.380 I feel like it's good. 00:35:29.500 --> 00:35:30.620 Unless you're going out for bonds. 00:35:31.140 --> 00:35:32.080 Oh, that's a lot. 00:35:32.080 --> 00:35:33.240 What's interest now? 00:35:33.240 --> 00:35:41.340 Or well that depends, I mean if you got a brand new card and finance it dealer finance angry, 00:35:41.340 --> 00:35:49.140 probably 0%, 1% problem is you can't go and definitely do there's county, can, doesn't 00:35:49.140 --> 00:35:50.620 ss you are doinggod Vale issuance. 00:35:50.620 --> 00:35:59.140 I just basically don't think hoods you do. 00:35:59.140 --> 00:36:21.730 Chairman, can I just, because I got an opportunity, can we raise the public safety tax for the service so that we will have the cash flow? 00:36:21.730 --> 00:36:36.590 I doubly, what will you bring in and stop going through this every year? I know that's, I'm being sarcastic, I know we can't do it now, but if we could, that's why I would have, all of us, I've always said that the need is going to come one day, 00:36:36.590 --> 00:37:06.570 said that we need to purchase 10 vehicles, and it sounds like it's next year if we don't get these vehicles this year, and you're going to be in the same position next year, because you're going to need one for it, but then, you know, again, it's an election year, we had to have it on the ballot, I just think there's a need for the money to be there for public safety, public safety is huge, and I don't think people are going to deny that, but that's neither here nor there, they don't fix this problem right now, so three is what I would say, and, you know, that's 00:37:06.590 --> 00:37:24.930 If you're going to give a recommendation, if not, just send them all there, and then the heavy lifting is going to have to be done anyway, in finance, so it's going to get done one way or another, whether we do it or not, it's going to get done in finance, but I just, it doesn't hurt to have a recommendation like this, Chair. 00:37:25.510 --> 00:37:33.190 I agree, I make sure we have a recommendation come from the committee to finance and 00:37:33.190 --> 00:37:41.110 If we say we want all five, finance could take us down to one. 00:37:42.430 --> 00:37:43.730 They could take us down to one. 00:37:44.830 --> 00:37:47.170 I don't know what's going to happen when you get done. 00:37:49.570 --> 00:37:52.430 There's not a lot of money to be dispersed. 00:37:54.210 --> 00:37:57.990 Well, we'll be pretty if I can take us down to one. 00:37:58.710 --> 00:37:59.870 Well, yeah, they could. 00:38:01.410 --> 00:38:01.950 They could. 00:38:03.190 --> 00:38:11.390 I guess I look at it as I'm like a negotiating, like, you know, okay, we're willing to take 00:38:11.390 --> 00:38:19.390 a hit. We're willing to take three instead of the five to help out, you know, to help balance 00:38:19.390 --> 00:38:21.470 this. Maybe they leave us alone. 00:38:23.790 --> 00:38:28.470 Sure. Let me ask you, the five that you're asking for, are they the same ones that you asked 00:38:28.470 --> 00:38:29.150 for last year? 00:38:29.150 --> 00:38:57.810 Yep, exactly the same. Exactly the same setup. Exactly the same. And how many did you ask last? Five. Five? Yep. I think I asked for five to replace nine last year. I'm asking for five to replace eight this year. So we're going to go into the service. Uh-huh. 00:38:57.810 --> 00:39:01.810 Well, if I could, I'll ease your pain a little bit. 00:39:01.970 --> 00:39:11.530 So, we will get ahead the way we're working this because the vehicles that we have now are lasting three, hopefully four years longer. 00:39:11.970 --> 00:39:21.990 So, if we were in that three-year cycle, because technically, what I should be doing right now is any vehicle that was over $100,000, I need to replace this year of that old one. 00:39:22.350 --> 00:39:23.450 Well, that's far and be gone. 00:39:23.570 --> 00:39:24.110 That's gone. 00:39:24.470 --> 00:39:27.610 The chargers are up there, but you only get $200,000 now. 00:39:27.610 --> 00:39:53.530 that's, that's all gone. So with those vehicles, we will get ahead. As long as I can get some of these high chargers and trucks out of there, we're gaining those three extra years. So you're actually getting two budget cycles farther out there, if that makes sense. So instead of the three year mark, I'm not going to be asking to replace that vehicle till the four, you know, the, I'm sorry, the six year mark, it would be the minimum. 00:39:53.530 --> 00:40:22.440 it would be the minimum so maybe the seven-year mark if we you know if the vehicles in good condition because right now it's 100 and I'm pushing those to 200 now so right away that gives us six years instead of three if that makes sense so I think that's why we're moving that way now because when I started my first term would be my third this would be my fourth year we should be replacing all those vehicles and we're not we have three years left with the vehicles we have that makes sense it's the old ones that we're 00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:28.100 from before me that we're trying to get out of there that there's a money, the money being 00:40:28.100 --> 00:40:28.780 close to me. 00:40:29.860 --> 00:40:30.540 That definitely. 00:40:31.680 --> 00:40:32.440 Thunder, isn't it? 00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:37.480 And, Andrew, maybe you probably don't know, but what would it look like if the vehicle looks 00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:40.260 like a bunch? 00:40:41.980 --> 00:40:43.080 Like the remainder? 00:40:43.460 --> 00:40:43.700 Right. 00:40:44.180 --> 00:40:44.760 Oh, thank you. 00:40:46.420 --> 00:40:47.760 Maybe it's 400,000? 00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:49.320 It's only a hundred thousand. 00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:55.540 Don't pause them up to the 708, 308, or 305, so I'll start 308, 343. 00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:57.080 Okay, I'm just thrown in there. 00:40:57.980 --> 00:41:05.040 And then there's another big ticket item, the chip spreader by the department. 00:41:06.640 --> 00:41:09.040 So 400 gigs. 00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:09.540 Yeah. 00:41:11.720 --> 00:41:12.900 Okay, there it is. 00:41:12.900 --> 00:41:17.960 So that wouldn't be, it wouldn't cover that piece of equipment. 00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:33.980 And the chip spreader was used in 2021 or 2022. I think it was 2021. So it's been... I'll just be quiet and let you read it. 00:41:36.900 --> 00:41:56.050 And that's one piece of a clip that can't be givvied up. You know what I mean? 00:41:56.050 --> 00:42:19.520 Bush, you can argue the merits of public works, but ideally right now, in the back of your mind, you have all those there, but consideration now is prioritizing the two requests based on the other information you have been added. 00:42:32.140 --> 00:42:32.620 Okay. 00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:36.320 Mr. Bush, would love me to make a request. 00:42:36.680 --> 00:42:43.260 If you could give me the two vehicles and one remote benches, I could make this one. 00:42:44.580 --> 00:42:46.160 Two vehicles and what was the other day? 00:42:46.320 --> 00:43:06.660 Just half the bench. One remote bench. I'll take care of the other one and we'll just deal with what we have with the vehicles. I'll do the best that I can with what I've got. I mean, I can see what the financial restraints are with the whole county. I don't want to hog everything, but I mean, I want to make sure everyone knows that it's not, I'm not just, you know, throwing 19 vehicles. 00:43:06.680 --> 00:43:08.740 out there and hoping for all 19 vehicles. 00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:12.120 I'm putting five out there because that's what, actually, that's not what I need. 00:43:12.160 --> 00:43:12.760 I need eight. 00:43:13.220 --> 00:43:18.440 So I'm already making a sacrifice with five, but I can see the hardship that's going on here. 00:43:18.600 --> 00:43:19.740 The number's right in front of me. 00:43:19.820 --> 00:43:21.720 I understand exactly what's going on. 00:43:22.620 --> 00:43:28.600 If I can get the two replaced, which won't be here until next, after next June anyway, 00:43:29.240 --> 00:43:30.700 we'll see where we're at. 00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:35.200 And by the end of that cycle, I'll see where we're at for next year. 00:43:35.200 --> 00:44:02.840 I will be honest if we get to that point where I've got a couple of vehicles that are sitting just like I do now that we have to get rid of I'm going to have to say I now have 11 vehicles that need to be replaced I might come back with six just to let you know and we'll go from there but that that would be my recommendation right now would be the best I think you can do to to operate the sheriff's office and reduce the liability of the courthouse. 00:44:05.200 --> 00:44:07.200 Thank you, Sheriff. 00:44:07.200 --> 00:44:16.570 The Sheriff has spoken, so I attend a motion. 00:44:16.570 --> 00:44:29.570 I make a motion that we submit our supplemental budget with a minimum of two Tocco police package 00:44:29.570 --> 00:44:38.430 vehicles and half of the courtroom benches. 00:44:38.430 --> 00:44:39.430 Second. 00:44:39.430 --> 00:44:47.060 and Moved by Ms. Hayes, seconded by Mr. Newton. Any questions? Any questions? 00:44:50.220 --> 00:44:51.080 All in favor? 00:44:52.520 --> 00:45:02.260 Not a question, one thing to point out. So with the 67, let's go half of the 67 because that's the deal for both. 00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:07.140 So the number, I'll come up with the other half so we have an exact number to go to the finance with. 00:45:07.140 --> 00:45:17.520 it's in the half of the 67. So it won't be 38 or 36. We'll do half of the 67 so we can get the deal and save for $7,000. 00:45:27.740 --> 00:45:38.040 I'm going to say something to Amy, but go ahead. All in favor? Aye. All in favor? Aye. All in favor? Aye. Any comments from committee members? 00:45:38.540 --> 00:45:41.140 Sam, you said you had something. 00:45:41.420 --> 00:45:58.420 Yeah, no, I, you know, I know I sound like a broken record, but honestly, it's days like this, it's years like this, that if we had everybody, I mean, nothing beats a tribe with not doing it. 00:45:58.420 --> 00:46:26.380 I mean, we, we, if we just, we know we can get a half a penny. We know that's what the state has allowed us, making our community the most safe it could be. And I know that's what we want for the least amount of money spent, but we've been given an opportunity that we never finished taking, which is a half a penny. That's one point, at least two million, probably, that goes back into our general fund that will help us offset taking care of this. 00:46:26.380 --> 00:46:53.420 I mean, I know we got to come to the table and say, well, a good majority has got to go to take care of the sheriff's issues in a year, but I just want everybody to, and I know we got to get out of being, well, politically thinking, well, we raised taxes. Well, it was for the safety. In the 21st century, we want the safest communities outside the city, in the city, everywhere, and having the best vehicle to get there. It's needed. 00:46:53.420 --> 00:47:23.420 I just think it's time if never before for us to think about you know making that happen and that's not going overboard I know people talk about how much money that is but when you break it down it's not that much per person to keep people safe so I I'm just hoping that at some point sheriff we sit down and say you know let's try nothing hurt but a try to see if we can get that extra half a penny to upgrade our public 00:47:23.420 --> 00:47:51.760 public safety across the board, whether that's 911, all these storms we've had, I'm sure we really need the best public safety that we can get. I can't worry about the other counties in the state. Everybody hasn't done it, but a lot of them have, and the ones who have done it have experienced great success. It just takes a few people to realize that we want our community to be as safe as it can be, and we're going to try and get that other half a penny that the state said we can have to make safety a priority. 00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:57.720 Oregon. At some point, it's got to be bigger than what the election about us, you know, or what it looks 00:47:57.720 --> 00:48:03.640 like at the election time. You know, I'm willing to say, hey, yeah, I raised taxes to make sure that 00:48:03.640 --> 00:48:07.920 Freeport, Stevenson County was safe as it needed to be. We got the best vehicles. We got the best 00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:14.760 equipment. We needed to do it because we have got stuff that is happening and we need it. So that's 00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:19.420 me, but I know everybody don't feel that. They're worried about what other people say, but I'm just 00:48:19.420 --> 00:48:21.080 saying we have a new share. 00:48:21.580 --> 00:48:22.620 We couldn't do that before. 00:48:22.780 --> 00:48:24.140 I know it was contentious. 00:48:24.580 --> 00:48:25.380 It was contiguous. 00:48:25.580 --> 00:48:28.240 It was a lot of things, but we are not at that place. 00:48:28.300 --> 00:48:31.500 We have a good committee, a good county board. 00:48:31.720 --> 00:48:32.420 We don't fight. 00:48:32.420 --> 00:48:39.340 We don't have the corn problems like some of our, you know, we know how to talk to one another. 00:48:40.580 --> 00:48:42.320 It took a long time to get there. 00:48:42.460 --> 00:48:43.220 I mean, it wasn't easy. 00:48:43.300 --> 00:48:45.500 It was a decade of craziness. 00:48:45.720 --> 00:48:48.220 I mean, you guys remember the way that we remember. 00:48:48.220 --> 00:49:12.620 But we're not there anymore. So let's think about how all of us can share the load and get that public safety money. That's probably, to me, an easier way. I know you can budget to death, but it still don't fix the problems that we got. And it'll take relief if we really care. It's going to take pressure off the whole rest of the county board and every department by us having more money to spend to take care of this. 00:49:12.620 --> 00:49:24.380 That would have been an extra $700,000 to be used for the rest of the board if we had a little more money and another $500,000 if it actually, I don't know if the numbers are correct, and what are we taking now for public safety tax? 00:49:25.300 --> 00:49:29.080 I'm budgeting 3.3. 00:49:30.080 --> 00:49:32.900 So just from the tax? 00:49:33.180 --> 00:49:33.620 Yes. 00:49:40.940 --> 00:49:41.940 3.05. 00:49:41.940 --> 00:49:51.980 3.05 million? Yes. So double it, that's 6 million. I mean, I think that problems go away. But my point is, you do that, you got 00:49:51.980 --> 00:49:59.500 is you do that, you free us up, we won't lose more hair because we can't replace cars and whatever else. Thank you, sir. 00:50:00.040 --> 00:50:03.680 Well said. Well said. 00:50:04.620 --> 00:50:06.000 Give me any other comments. 00:50:10.350 --> 00:50:13.490 Anything you most, so we'll move on to Mr. Busker. 00:50:13.750 --> 00:50:17.810 Second by Ms. Hayes. All in favor? All opposed? 00:50:19.190 --> 00:50:19.950 Thank you. 00:50:20.150 --> 00:50:20.830 Thank you. 00:50:20.830 --> 00:50:27.630 That was fun.